26/11/2008: Never Forget. Never Forgive

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Prem Kumar wrote:if God-forbid, a 26/11 should happen again.
it did happen again, rather tried to happen.
remember the boat incident off Gujarat coast on New Year's eve.
Only, the outcome was different this time. Boat caught fire and drowned with all passengers.
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https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-cour ... ia-4043737
Imprisoned Pakistani-origin Canadian businessman Tahawwur Rana, who is sought for his involvement in the 2008 Mumbai terror attack, can be extradited to India, a US court in California has ruled.
Judge Jacqueline Chooljian of US District Court in Central District of Los Angeles in the order dated May 16 said that based on the foregoing, the Court concludes that 62-year-old Rana is extraditable for the offences for which extradition has been requested and on which the United States is proceeding.

India's National Investigation Agency (NIA) is probing into his role in the 26/11 attacks carried out by Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists in 2008.
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Anujan wrote:https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/us-cour ... ia-4043737
Imprisoned Pakistani-origin Canadian businessman Tahawwur Rana, who is sought for his involvement in the 2008 Mumbai terror attack, can be extradited to India, a US court in California has ruled.
Judge Jacqueline Chooljian of US District Court in Central District of Los Angeles in the order dated May 16 said that based on the foregoing, the Court concludes that 62-year-old Rana is extraditable for the offences for which extradition has been requested and on which the United States is proceeding.

India's National Investigation Agency (NIA) is probing into his role in the 26/11 attacks carried out by Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba terrorists in 2008.
Also *very* significant - WRT to US Court approval of extradition of 26/11 accused Tahawwur Rana to India: " The request was made by India supported by the Biden Administration

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Incredible!
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Fellow is a canadian national. Am sure he will file some cases in Canada to prevent extradition citing "treatment of minorities" in India.
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Anujan wrote:Fellow is a canadian national. Am sure he will file some cases in Canada to prevent extradition citing "treatment of minorities" in India.
And non-white
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Do we have an extradition treaty with Kaneda!!
Also given Turdoos love for Khalistani/Jihadi combo will he ever agree
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Rsatchi wrote:Do we have an extradition treaty with Kaneda!!
Also given Turdoos love for Khalistani/Jihadi combo will he ever agree
You really think these treaties etc matter, How was the soo called Russian Arms dealer released- what US law was followed, it is just leverage and gains.

If India has something significant enough to offer this fellow will be handed over to us- but what will be gain? It would be much better if he is last member of his family with no descendants and relatives to spend his last years in a room where the leys have been thrown out along with rest of Paki leadership and collaborators who planned the hit.
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Things are going to move:
FS Kwatra Uvach:
We are in touch with US authorities for speedy extradition of Tahawwur Hussain Rana
Great!
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Anujan wrote:Fellow is a canadian national. Am sure he will file some cases in Canada to prevent extradition citing "treatment of minorities" in India.
I know, you are speaking with tongue-in-cheek but stating the obvious: Canada (or Pak for that matter) can't do much ..(apart from, say providing/requesting a consuel in his trial in India after extradition)..but IMO India already has enough lawyers who will be eager to represent him in the name of human rights and secularism. ..
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Amber G. wrote:
Anujan wrote:Fellow is a canadian national. Am sure he will file some cases in Canada to prevent extradition citing "treatment of minorities" in India.
I know, you are speaking with tongue-in-cheek but stating the obvious: Canada (or Pak for that matter) can't do much ..(apart from, say providing/requesting a consuel in his trial in India after extradition)..but IMO India already has enough lawyers who will be eager to represent him in the name of human rights and secularism. ..
Lawyers.. we have courts who do it.. as a matter of judicial process (thank you Great Bartannia)

Mumbai court pardons David Headley, makes him an approver in 26/11 case
A local court on Thursday granted pardon to David Coleman Headley, one of the main accused in the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks case, and accepted him as a prosecution witness.

The court agreed to Headley's plea to turn an approver in return for pardon while imposing certain conditions on him.

The sessions court has asked Headley to disclose all information that he had revealed earlier to the US court.

Headley had appeared before the sessions court here through a video link from an undisclosed location in the US.
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Any update on where the Jihadi turd is... maybe hidden safely by the agency. Witness protection and all that?

Maybe in India?

David Headley is neither in Chicago nor in hospital, says his lawyer
Pakistani-American David Coleman Headley is neither in Chicago nor in hospital, his lawyer said today, dismissing reports that the prime accused in the 2008 Mumbai terror attack case was battling for his life in the US city after being beaten by inmates at a detention centre.

“Although I cannot disclose his location, he is neither in Chicago nor in a hospital,” John Theis, Headley’s lawyer, told PTI.

Media reports had said that Headley was attacked by two inmates at a Chicago prison on 8 July and that he was admitted to an intensive care unit of a hospital in the city since then.

“I am in regular communication with Mr. Headley. There is no basis for the report in the Indian press,” Theis said.

The reports had said Headley suffered serious injuries and was rushed to North Evanston hospital, where he was admitted to the critical care unit.

“We are not able to locate information about this individual,” the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago said in a brief email response to PTI when asked about the reported prison incident. :lol:
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^^^ Let us hope this thread does not get trashed with conspiracy theories - not everything printed in ddm is to be believed. FWIW
- David Coleman Headley is unlikely to come out alive from his prison sentence. (He has cooperated with Indian prosecutors - testified / questioned by Indian authorities in US - and spilled lot of beans regarding ISI, pak etc), He is convicted (or pleaded guilty) for Mumbai terror .. (as well as other offenses).

-Rana who got convicted for other offenses but he was not convicted for serious Mumbai terror case -- this is why he is being extradited to India (after serving 10-15 years in Jail in USA) for these crimes. (He was trying to Plea bargain and trying to avoid extradition but it did not succeed.
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^ I dont do sarcasm well

David Headley is no Raymond Davies.. but he is still an american.
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Amber G. wrote:^^^ Let us hope this thread does not get trashed with conspiracy theories - not everything printed in ddm is to be believed. FWIW
- David Coleman Headley is unlikely to come out alive from his prison sentence. (He has cooperated with Indian prosecutors - testified / questioned by Indian authorities in US - and spilled lot of beans regarding ISI, pak etc), He is convicted (or pleaded guilty) for Mumbai terror .. (as well as other offenses).

-Rana who got convicted for other offenses but he was not convicted for serious Mumbai terror case -- this is why he is being extradited to India (after serving 10-15 years in Jail in USA) for these crimes. (He was trying to Plea bargain and trying to avoid extradition but it did not succeed.
there are many 26/11 collaborators in bombay who are still being politically protected by local and national politicos and are yet to be unmasked

IMHO, there are no other reasons to extradite this fellow
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26/11: 'Tahawwur Rana's extradition to India is not an easy matter'
Former Intelligence Bureau Officer Avinash Mohananey, who spent a considerable time in Pakistan on security assignments, discusses with Prasanna D Zore/Rediff.com the challenges India could face in her efforts to seek the custody of the 26/11 planner Tahawwur Rana back to India after a Chicago court cleared his extradition to India on May 18.
Important points
The issue is that extradition by and large is an apolitical issue to be settled by the (governments of) two countries.

Since Tahawwur Rana is not an Indian, the Americans would not be bound to send him back here.

While he is a Canadian (citizen) he was prosecuted in the United States. So it is now for the US government and the judiciary to take a call (on Rana's extradition to India) whether he can be sent (back to India to face trial here).
The legal process (related to his extradition and gathering of evidence and filing of chargesheet) has been completed in India.

A supplementary chargesheet can come when he is arrested (after his extradition to India). Then a supplementary chargesheet can come. From our side, the legal processes have been completed for this extradition.

Now whatever documents the higher courts in the US require, when he goes for appeal or the US government requests, then that can be supplied from our side.

Obviously, he has challenged it (his extradition by the Chicago court) and the case now could go all the way up (to the highest judicial body in the US); like major democracies the US judicial system also involves at least two to three layers of appealing.

So it (Rana's extradition to India) is not going to be resolved very soon. It's not such an easy matter. We may wish that it happens fast, but we are not sure that it will happen.
In fact, the main investigations were done against Tahawwur Rana by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the US.

They arrested him almost a year after the 26/11 (terror attacks in Mumbai), after a thorough investigation which neither Headley nor Rana could get away with.

Headley had plea bargained -- whose terms and conditions nobody knows, and which we may never know because nobody discloses that -- but Headley during the FBI investigations clearly implicated Tahawwur Rana.
With the Chicago court clearing his extradition and Rana appealing against it, the case could through at least two more layers of court proceedings for his extradition to go through.

Even if there is a final judicial order for his extradition, the final order has to come from the (US) government.

As Rana is not an Indian citizen, our leverage on the US system -- whether it's their judiciary or the executive -- is very limited in that sense.

The US system has to listen to the Canadians also. A Canadian national cannot be easily deported to India to face trial by Americans. This is the complication.
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Manish_P wrote:^ I dont do sarcasm well

David Headley is no Raymond Davies.. but he is still an american.

"David Headley" is a double/triple agent who also worked for amriki agencies

There is no way that he would have been in India without these agencies knowing

the amrikis do not want his multiple roles to become public, given the hostility of some of the commies in the Indian media, towards the amrikis

besides, there is some suspicion that the amerikis may have played some part in the attacks for reasons best known to them

Hence this creep "David Headley" is off limits
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India should not talk to Paki and no normal relation (like trade, tourism, Aman ki Asha etc.) till they hand over 36 terrorist whose name are provided by Gov. of India. Also full proof proposal that Pakis will no more send any Terrorist in India and close all camps.
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15 years. I pray for the families of our Bravehearts and victims.
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What new info got revealed this year about 26/11?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7edETvE7uY

Nitin Gokhle asking some very tough questions of Medias role .
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https://twitter.com/theskindoctor13/sta ... 41Rzg&s=19
. Manmohan Singh diplomatically isolated Pakistan after 26/11. The isolation :

1. Not a single country imposed sanctions on Pak.

2. Leave sanctions, not a single country even criticized Pak directly. Some only "urged" Pak to help India with the probe.

3. Within a year of the attack, USA supplied 18 F16 fighter jets to Pak.

4. India couldn't even convince the FATF to put Pak in the grey list despite such obvious terror financing.

5. Within a year, MMS released a joint statement with Pakistan in Egypt, delinking terrorism from talks. It stated that education and poverty were the main issues; not terrorism.

6. Attacks didn't stop after 26/11. Within months, the Pune bIast at German Bakery kiIIed 17, then Mumbai serial bIast in 2011 kiIIed 26. The same year there was a car bIast targeting Israeli diplomats, the 2013 Hyderabad bIast kiIIed 18, and so on.
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Adani and 26/11 close shave
Even Adani was in the hotel at the time of the attack and barely escaped.
Amazing number of HVTs at the one place!
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^ can't be a coincidence.

Btw how many of the pigs involved in this are still alive ? We should make a reference list for our friendly unknown gun man.
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W. R. T headley , there are several prison gangs in unkil that can be utilized to deliver him to djannat.
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Rupesh wrote: 27 Nov 2023 05:49 https://twitter.com/theskindoctor13/sta ... 41Rzg&s=19
. Manmohan Singh diplomatically isolated Pakistan after 26/11. The isolation :

1. Not a single country imposed sanctions on Pak.

2. Leave sanctions, not a single country even criticized Pak directly. Some only "urged" Pak to help India with the probe.

3. Within a year of the attack, USA supplied 18 F16 fighter jets to Pak.

4. India couldn't even convince the FATF to put Pak in the grey list despite such obvious terror financing.

5. Within a year, MMS released a joint statement with Pakistan in Egypt, delinking terrorism from talks. It stated that education and poverty were the main issues; not terrorism.

6. Attacks didn't stop after 26/11. Within months, the Pune bIast at German Bakery kiIIed 17, then Mumbai serial bIast in 2011 kiIIed 26. The same year there was a car bIast targeting Israeli diplomats, the 2013 Hyderabad bIast kiIIed 18, and so on.



Rupesh ji


hence, the pakis started sending illiterate and dirt poor jihadis to achieve their cross border objectives. They kept to the letter and spirit of the agreement.


Raincoat was certainly assertive and effective. Got to hand it to him and his boss, the eyetalian mistress


raincoat thought that he had changed the narrative but forgot to send the memo to his paki pals who still deeply mourn his departure from the PM's gaddi, and for some strange reason, Modi somehow, doesn't seem to appeal to them. Never could understand these jihadis and their strange ways....


Stopping India from retaliating was a well thought out BIF coup. We came across as a spineless country and that actually egged on the pakis to carry on with their cross border policies


and the BIF whites thought that they had India exactly where they wanted India to be in the geopolitical and geo-economic arena, because mamamia mafia had delivered as promised


26/11 could never have happened without some considerable heavy lifting by vested Indian political interests and the workforce deployed for the project by jihadi criminal gangs operating in India, often under political patronage
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gakakkad wrote: 27 Nov 2023 18:43 W. R. T headley , there are several prison gangs in unkil that can be utilized to deliver him to djannat.
Hakim saab, does anybody know which prison he is housed in? He might be under the FBI witness protection program and could be a neighbor to you or I.
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I hope a massive surgical strike happens before 2024 elections. We tend to get too complacent and think that peace is a given, growth is a given & good governance is a given. Most of the new-gen 1st time voters may not even know what life was under UPA-1 & 2, the monthly terror attacks, the corruption, the Hinduphobia etc

A loud slap on Pakistan will wake everyone up. Yes, let it be for the cynical reason of winning 2024. Hitting Pakis don't need reason - they send enough jihadis across.

But the aam-aadmi, especially the younger ones, need waking up.
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Prem Kumar wrote: 28 Nov 2023 14:51 I hope a massive surgical strike happens before 2024 elections. We tend to get too complacent and think that peace is a given, growth is a given & good governance is a given. Most of the new-gen 1st time voters may not even know what life was under UPA-1 & 2, the monthly terror attacks, the corruption, the Hinduphobia etc

A loud slap on Pakistan will wake everyone up. Yes, let it be for the cynical reason of winning 2024. Hitting Pakis don't need reason - they send enough jihadis across.

But the aam-aadmi, especially the younger ones, need waking up.
Agree! Get a solid video to be released to media so that AAP and Congoons do not ask for evidence.
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Tukaram Omble AC (c. 1954 – 27 November 2008)[1] was an Indian police officer and a former member of Indian army who served as an assistant sub-inspector (ASI) of the Mumbai Police. He was killed in action during the 2008 Mumbai attacks, at Girgaum Chowpatty in Mumbai.

He played a vital role in capturing Ajmal Kasab, a Pakistani terrorist. Despite the threat, he fought to save Mumbai. He was honoured with the Ashoka Chakra for his courage. He lost his life when Kasab, the terrorist, fired shots at him.

The Indian government posthumously honoured Omble on 26 January 2009 with the Ashoka Chakra, the country's highest peacetime military award.

The bravery of our men in uniform shines as a beacon of selfless service.


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His courage in the face of certain death is the reason why Congress will never ever get my vote.

He saved more than Mumbai that day.
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M.K. Narayanan speaks out on David Headley.

https://twitter.com/News9Tweets/status/ ... Z4bZQ&s=19


Chetak can you post the Twitter screenshot?
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I have wondered if unknown gunmen ever took out the pigs on our side for 26/11. The SC and Tihar would have been vacation for them
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just watch the video.


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‘It’s Hindu Terror!’ screamed newspaper headlines, when for the first time in the country’s history an army man, Lt Col Prasad Shrikant Purohit, was arrested in connection with the September 2008 Malegaon bomb blast. Who was this person, why was his name plastered over the front page of all newspapers? Why him of all people? Was he guilty? Was he framed? Was he a scapegoat? What happened to the family of this decorated officer while he languished in prison for nine long years as undertrial? Lt Colonel Purohit: The Man Betrayed? attempts to answer these very questions and in the course brings to light a conspiracy which makes one shudder to even think of…



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Bombay HC Rejects Lt Col Purohit’s Plea for Discharge From Malegaon Blast Case



https://thewire.in/law/bombay-high-cour ... gaon-blast


Bombay HC Rejects Lt Col Purohit’s Plea for Discharge From Malegaon Blast Case

A bench of Justices A.S. Gadkari and Prakash Naik rejected his plea, saying sanction from the Union government was not needed because Purohit was "not on official duty".


02/JAN/2023

New Delhi: The Bombay high court on Monday rejected an appeal filed by Lieutenant Colonel Prasad Shrikant Purohit seeking discharge in the 2008 Malegaon blast case in which six people were killed and more than 100 were injured.

The court made the caustic remark that causing bomb blast is not official duty, according to LiveLaw.

The Indian Army officer sought discharge on the ground that the prosecution did not take sanction under relevant provisions of the Code of Criminal Procedure (CrPC). A bench of Justices A.S. Gadkari and Prakash Naik rejected his plea, saying that sanction from the Union government was not needed because Purohit was “not on official duty”.

Apart from Purohit, six others – including BJP MP Prgaya Singh Thakur – are facing trial in the case. All the accused are currently out on bail.

On September 29, 2008, a device strapped to a motorcycle exploded near a mosque in Malegaon. The motorbike was registered in Pragya Thakur’s name, according to the investigation. Though the probe was initially conducted by the Maharashtra Anti Terrorism Squad (ATS), it was taken over by the National Investigation Agency (NIA) later.

According to LiveLaw, the chargesheet accuses Purohit and others of wanting to form a government in exile. “They were dissatisfied with the Constitution of India and had wanted to prepare their own constitution,” the chargesheet says, adding that Purohit was responsible for procuring RDX – an explosive chemical – from Kashmir.

Neela Gokhale, representing Purohit, submitted during the hearing that the NIA had said that Purohit had informed his superiors about attending meetings of Abhinav Bharat, an organisation which worked to create a Hindu rashtra. Therefore, the lawyer claimed that he was on duty “collecting intelligence for the Indian Army” by attending the meetings, according to Indian Express.

But advocate Sandesh Patil, appearing for the NIA, said the document that Purohit’s lawyer referred to support his case was the Army officer’s own and not of the agency. Some other documents that were produced by Purohit were from the Army’s Court of Enquiry and are inadmissible in judicial courts.

The NIA’s lawyer denied that Purohit was on duty when he was attending the conspiracy meetings and cannot rely on Section 197 of the CrPC, according to Indian Express.

Patil also submitted that Purohit cannot be discharged as the trial is at an advanced stage – nearly 300 witnesses have been produced so far by NIA in the trial court – and his conviction or acquittal can be decided as per the merits of the case.

He also submitted that an Army official had recently deposed before the trial court that there was no official communication from Purohit informing his superiors about his alleged plans to infiltrate Abhinav Bharat and collect intelligence.
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Sajid Mir, a key conspirator of the Mumbai 26/11 attacks, on ventilator support after being poisoned by an unknown person in Pakistan jail


https://www.latestly.com/socially/world ... 06257.html
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