Telangana Monitor

archan · Post by **archan** » 21 Jan 2010 22:39

bahdada has been warned. anuj, you are next.

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 21 Jan 2010 22:54

Narayana Rao wrote: This is a correct way to go. Why educated people are going to die for political leaders. If so much feeling is there and so much fear is there that Telangana may not come how many political leader's kids committed suicide??? No one. Leaders who are reaposible for the present state of affairs are well off having looted public for decades and now they are killing students and showing them as suicides.

it is under investigation, so let it be. It is quite plausible that it is a suicide "for Telangana"--young people of that age have a heroic streak in them that makes them want to sacrifice themselves in a great cause. The tragedy is that the cause here is so dubious and the boy maybe didn't have the maturity to think it through (assuming it was suicide in a cause, wonder why do it out of public view then, though.).

There is nothing compellingly right or wrong or even all that dubious about a separate Telangana with or without Hyderabad, Kishen Reddy's article put it quite well. However, the issue here is the unhealthy, and to my mind feudalo-naxalitist and anti-national mindset that is driving the movement. Probably KCR himself, despite his limitations, is inclined to be reasonable about business, but he has no real power. So, surrendering or compromising with such a movement (by handing Telangana over to KCR based on his assurances to industry) would be a historic folly, like the Czar handing over to Kerensky, who for all his good intentions, had to yield place to Lenin & Trotsky when they had no more use for him.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 21 Jan 2010 23:15

While extremist Congress wants to do "Bhu Sthapitam" (burying) of Andhra leaders (quote by Damodar Reddy), Telengana Congress wants to get out JAC. Moderates are stuck with volatile JAC without ability to maneuver and impose their way.

Cong to get out of Telangana JAC?
http://greatandhra.com/ganews/viewnews. ... 15&scat=16

On the side, Congress doesn't want to be part of Samikyandhra political JAC. If they join, on T-side these people will have to continue in T-JAC.

Looks like congress party is reigning in both sides and wants their leaders to get out of JAC business.

>Hyderabad Congress - This group has taken position of speaking for so-called "settlers". This Congress and Extremist Congress together "condition" the settlers.

After being beaten, one minister (Danam Nagendar) took U-turn and is now supporting Telangana by starting abusing Andhra leaders. As suspected they were there to condition settlers. "Settlers" may not have bought into his feign support

PS: For definitions, refer http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 25#p807425

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 21 Jan 2010 23:36

Looking at Vidarbha and reigning multiple personalities that were unleashed by Congress, it seems Central Congress government is going to stab AP by packaging Telengana and Vidarbha together. Its next steps need to be seen as to which way it goes.

Sarma · Post by **Sarma** » 21 Jan 2010 23:40

Guys, I apologize if I appear to be pontificating. But, I wanted to say that whether one wants a united AP or a separate Telangana state, one need not be acerbic towards either view point. It was pointed out to me, very rightly, that this is our "inti tagaada." Instead of dubbing as dubious the separate Telangana movement, it would serve the united-AP protagonists if they exhibited greater understanding of the very genuine sentiment and suggest means to solve the issue within the existing framework. It is sad that a few rotten apples through their violent acts and intemperate statements are giving a bad name to a genuine people's wish of Telangana state.

anuj · Post by **anuj** » 22 Jan 2010 00:04

archan wrote:bahdada has been warned. anuj, you are next.

Yes master.

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People may not pay taxes, fees: warns JAC convenor

The Convenor of the Joint Action Committee spearheading the agitation for Telangana today warned the outfit might resort to non-cooperation movement if the Centre failed to meet its January 28 deadline for declaring a separate state.

Lawyers boycott court, join Telangana bandh

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Jan 2010 00:11

anuj wrote: People may not pay taxes, fees: warns JAC convenor
The Convenor of the Joint Action Committee spearheading the agitation for Telangana today warned the outfit might resort to non-cooperation movement if the Centre failed to meet its January 28 deadline for declaring a separate state.
Lawyers boycott court, join Telangana bandh

Another shot at one's own foot!

Prior to 2004 elections, INC made similar statements w.r.t free electricity and it got stuck with that promise. Hope T-intellectuals are sure of the un-intended consequences.

All these proclamations sound very leftist to me. Am I alone?

Sarma · Post by **Sarma** » 22 Jan 2010 00:22

^^^ Please read my earlier posts (one page earlier) on the naxal penetration of the movement. Kondandaram is an aboveground (as against underground) naxalite. All the so-called intellectuals supporting the movement are extreme leftists. People like Kondandaram are totally screwing the movement, by injecting intolerance into it.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 22 Jan 2010 01:25

Sarma wrote:Guys, I apologize if I appear to be pontificating. But, I wanted to say that whether one wants a united AP or a separate Telangana state, one need not be acerbic towards either view point. It was pointed out to me, very rightly, that this is our "inti tagaada." Instead of dubbing as dubious the separate Telangana movement, it would serve the united-AP protagonists if they exhibited greater understanding of the very genuine sentiment and suggest means to solve the issue within the existing framework. It is sad that a few rotten apples through their violent acts and intemperate statements are giving a bad name to a genuine people's wish of Telangana state.

There are status-quoists, Telanganavadis, Samaikyavadis, and others

Yes screw status-quoists and others and based on sentiments give:

- Telengana to Telenganavadis
- Samaikya AP to Samaikyavadis

skaranam · Post by **skaranam** » 22 Jan 2010 09:09

Mr. Kodandaram can make a effort is setting up Suicide Hotline so that people who feel like committing suicide can talk...something like in western hemisphere...

not sure how it can help, atleast it will appear that some steps are being taken in the right direction to reign in the suicides...

On the other side, i think AP Govt. should do it with AP Police taking the lead...

skaranam · Post by **skaranam** » 22 Jan 2010 12:33

Additional Efforts to keep Telangana in the boil....

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 486577.cms

anuj · Post by **anuj** » 22 Jan 2010 13:24

ABVP moves court for permission to hold Telangana rally

Hyderabad, Jan 22 (IANS) The Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), the student wing of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), Friday approached the Andhra Pradesh High Court after it was denied permission by the police to hold a public meeting here Saturday to press the demand for statehood to Telangana.
The student group argues that it has a democratic right to hold public meetings. It hopes the court would allow it to hold the same.

The ABVP plans to mobilise thousands of students from different parts of Telangana for the meeting called ‘Vidyarthi Ranabheri’ to be held at Nizam College grounds.

Several pro-Telangana political parties and organisations have urged the government to permit ABVP to hold the meeting. Many apolitical organisations have also declared their support to the meeting and have appealed to people to attend in large numbers to send a strong signal to the central government.

Leader of opposition in Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj is expected to address the meeting. ABVP leader R. Shashidhar Reddy said the Congress government had denied permission as it was afraid of the presence of the BJP leader.

The high court had allowed students of Osmania University to hold a similar meeting Jan 3 after the police had denied permission for the same.

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 22 Jan 2010 19:41

As i have posted BJP is a total write of in Andra pradesh state now. It is not going to get any seats in Telangana and in costal and rayalaseema areas its leaders are afraid to show their faces outside.

I do not know what is the reason for it to do over action like this.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Jan 2010 19:53

Narayana Rao wrote:As i have posted BJP is a total write of in Andra pradesh state now. It is not going to get any seats in Telangana and in costal and rayalaseema areas its leaders are afraid to show their faces outside.

I do not know what is the reason for it to do over action like this.

BJP must have got some assurances in future telangana. Remember KCR's decisions immediately after 2009 elections?

The key part is that in this scenario BJP, KCR, INC-T and Maoist interests/preferences are complementing each other. Unity in diversity I guess.

Sonia-ji must have to make a choice between Telangana and Seemandhra MP seats in 2014 elections.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 22 Jan 2010 20:17

Can we disband OU? For a few yrs at least? At the very least separate the trouble-prone arts/humanities colleges away from the saner and calmer engg and medical variety? The troubled (f)arts colleges can then be bundled into a separate (deemed) Telengana University and declared an exam free zone..... everybody'll likely be happy at this turn of events. Jai ho.

As for the once gr8 bjp, as far as AP is concerned, it's abbreviation has aajkal become 'Bahut Jorka Potty' onlee. The bjp finally figured it has nothing to lose in AP because it can never ever win here, period. AP will never be another k'taka. So might as well jump up and down and pee-poo on everybody else's party.

a_kumar · Post by **a_kumar** » 22 Jan 2010 21:10

Hari Seldon wrote: As for the once gr8 bjp, as far as AP is concerned, it's abbreviation has aajkal become 'Bahut Jorka Potty' onlee. The bjp finally figured it has nothing to lose in AP because it can never ever win here, period. AP will never be another k'taka. So might as well jump up and down and pee-poo on everybody else's party.

Besides their small state ideology, I think BJP is reading it the same was as MIM did.

That Telangana is inherently well disposed to BJP due the Razakar past. So BJP IMO sees this this effort as best shot at 10+ seats in AP (new Telangana).

Begs the question, why they didn't do too well until now!!!

RayC · Post by **RayC** » 22 Jan 2010 21:43

Could someone explain why Teleganãs who speak the same language and have the same culture (?) go against being one?

Funny people!

skaranam · Post by **skaranam** » 22 Jan 2010 21:58

RayC wrote:Could someone explain why Teleganãs who speak the same language and have the same culture (?) go against being one?

Funny people!

Telangana / Andhra / Rayalaseem language is spoken different. The script is same...the dialect or the speech pattern is different. Culturally they are also at a slight variance. This is nizam influence is seen more in telangana. The interesting part...all these differences were never a problem all these years.

This agitation is more political than people's aspiration. There is lot of misleading information being distributed around. I have seen in some places there is A4 size paper being distributed with skewed statistics and bullet points justifying the need of telangana.

The common man does not have the time nor the interest to question the document. In all this, the TV channels with their breaking news and so called panel discussions confuse the poor citizen further more.

kmkraoind · Post by **kmkraoind** » 22 Jan 2010 22:15

IPL opening match moved out of Hyderabad

Indeed very bad for Hyderabad image.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 22 Jan 2010 22:30

skaranam wrote:Telangana / Andhra / Rayalaseem language is spoken different. The script is same...the dialect or the speech pattern is different. Culturally they are also at a slight variance. This is nizam influence is seen more in telangana. The interesting part...all these differences were never a problem all these years.

As I posted before there are 12 different dialects in Telangana alone. There is variation in dialects and accent pattern from district-to-district and some time they are different within district. Hyderabad has different Telugu than other districts in Telengana. Variation may be visible if you compare Adilabad (north most districts) Telugu and Chittoor (south most district) Telugu but that variation (mostly words' choice) can be easily learned if two people from those districts have to converse. This is true for any state.

The broad variation in Telengana Telugu is due to 200 years of Nizam influence and separation. But since beginning, Vengi area (roughly K-G districts and 4 eastern T-districts) that form core of Andhra had same Telugu and poets (Nannaya from Rajamahendri, Bhima kavi from Vemulawada) from there influenced or set direction to modern Telugu.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 22 Jan 2010 23:14

RayC wrote:Could someone explain why Teleganãs who speak the same language and have the same culture (?) go against being one?

Funny people!

At gross roots there is little difference, except that Telangana people speak urduised-Telugu, for obvious reasons. Their poverty and backwardness is no different from that of other Telugu people in Rayalaseema and North Andhra.

The Telangana agitation stems from genuine fear of Telangana leadership about the "possible" exploitation by more trained/experienced Andhra people due to the well recorded disparity between Andhra and Telangana education/administrative differences in pre-independence India.

To me it appears that T-vadis do not want compete with rest of Andhra, in terms of education/economy/industry, and instead move at their own pace. It is good and bad in a sense.

What the national/state leadership wants to do with that perceived/real exploitation is the current quagmire.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 22 Jan 2010 23:29

Cong MPs from Telangana step up pressure on Centre, party
http://www.zeenews.com/news598234.html

Virupaksha · Post by **Virupaksha** » 22 Jan 2010 23:37

ShyamSP wrote: The broad variation in Telengana Telugu is due to 200 years of Nizam influence and separation. But since beginning, Vengi area (roughly K-G districts and 4 eastern T-districts) that form core of Andhra had same Telugu and poets (Nannaya from Rajamahendri, Bhima kavi from Vemulawada) from there influenced or set direction to modern Telugu.

just a question. how many have read potana's bhagavatam? He is from warangal and was one of the last poets before it passed onto bahmani sultans (to mughal to nizam).

which dialect of today is it closest to?

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 23 Jan 2010 01:11

skaranam wrote: This agitation is more political than people's aspiration. There is lot of misleading information being distributed around. I have seen in some places there is A4 size paper being distributed with skewed statistics and bullet points justifying the need of telangana.

The common man does not have the time nor the interest to question the document. In all this, the TV channels with their breaking news and so called panel discussions confuse the poor citizen further more.

So they (that includes Congress handlers) want to create hatred on others to show to Sonia and GOI so she can provide healing touch?

We will not treat Non Telangana people : Telangana Doctors
http://newsofap.com/newsofap-4148-21-we ... sofap.html

Jayasudha made to say "Jai Telangana"
http://newsofap.com/newsofap-4170-21-ja ... sofap.html

They are beating some normal people if any one they encounter doesn't say they are for Telangana.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 23 Jan 2010 01:27

They manufactured crisis

They are manufacturing hatred

They are also manufacturing Telengana history before Nizams - Some examples

* Telengana is Telinga kingdom
* Telengana is from Telavana

Anyway, Telinga is corruption of Trilinga (Three Lingas) which is core of Andhra roughly corresponds to Vengi. Trilinga Desam is another name for Telugu desam whose core area is in the triangle formed by Sri Sailam (Kurnool dist), Kaleswaram (Karinmnagar dist), Drakshramam (East Godavari dist) - 3 famous Shiva temples

Telavana - they spelled it so it sounds like Telangana. Telavana or Talavana (Tala forest) one of the forests Sri Krishna roamed. Madhuvana is example of another forest he roamed.

Factually, Telengana is persian name meaning Telugu area and came to be known as such in Nizam times.

anuj · Post by **anuj** » 23 Jan 2010 09:11

Cong drifts from statehood camps

Hyderabad, Jan. 22: Congress legislators have decided to distance themselves from both the Telangana and the Samaikya (United) Andhra forums, caught between the party high command’s directive not to quit and the Telangana Joint Action Committee’s (JAC) pressure to resign.

The legislators stayed away from today’s JAC meeting in Hyderabad. Nor did the party’s MLAs from coastal Andhra, opposed to the creation of Telangana, attend the Samaikya (United) Andhra meeting in Vijayawada.

“We plan to float our own platform as we feel suffocated and often threatened by other political partners (in both the forums),” said a senior minister.

The pro-Telangana camp is peeved at JAC convener M. Kodandaram’s diktat to resign. The move by the 54 MLAs from the region to skip the JAC meeting is being seen as their way of sending a signal to the Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS), the statehood spearhead and the JAC’s driving force, that the committee’s “unilateral” actions were not acceptable to the ruling party.

The MLAs are upset with Kodandaram’s remarks that those who don’t resign will be termed “traitors of Telangana”, the hardening of position coming after over a month of domination by non-Congress leaders, including the TRS, in the JAC.

Centre likely to announce time-bound panel soon

Sources indicated that one of the proposals being considered by the government is the appointment of a judicial commission with a stipulated time-frame to go into the creation of Telangana. Last Friday’s core group meeting had decided to announce the Telangana mechanism ahead of the January 28 deadline set by the Telangana joint action committee (JAC) for Centre to spell out a time-frame for the creation of the state.

The Congress leaders have been stuck between following the diktats of the high command which has asked them not to put in their papers and that of the political JAC which has been pressing for the opposite. In fact, there was even talk of Congress quitting the JAC and forming its own front. However, senior Congress MLA from Telangana R Damodar Reddy said in Hyderabad on Friday that the party would remain a constituent of the JAC.

“We have kept aside our flags and joined hands for one agenda, that is formation of Telangana. We will remain part of the JAC,” he said.

Telangana supporters decide not to pay taxes

The all-party Telangana Joint Action Committee decided on Friday to begin non-cooperation with the state if the Centre did not come up with a time-bound plan to create Telangana by January 28.

The JAC will advise its district, panchayat and village units to stop paying taxes and electricity and water dues. Even bank loans and other dues to government agencies will not be paid.

The move will add to the problems of the K Rosaiah government, as the state is already in a financial crisis. A state finance department source said on condition of anonymity that the Rs 40,200-crore state plan for 2009-10 might be downsized by about Rs 6,000 crore.

However, non-cooperation has actually begun in the state. On Thursday, local newspapers carried pictures of K. Subrahmanyan, an assistant divisional engineer of AP Trsansco, a power utility company, being chased and beaten up by JAC members. Subrahmanyan went to Bibipet in Nizamabad district to ask villagers to pay electricity dues.

Earlier, the villagers locked up two of his colleagues. They said they would pay up only after Telangana is formed.

APCC chief urges Sonia to act fast

Sources said the APCC president explained to Ms. Gandhi about the high expectations among the people on the specific mechanism and road map to settle the statehood issue.

“The process of announcing the mechanism has to be expedited,” he is believed to have said. Ms. Gandhi is said to have expressed deep anguish at the increasing number of suicides in the Telangana region.

Talking to reporters after his meeting, Mr. Srinivas said Ms. Gandhi was serious about the Telangana issue. She expressed the view that agitations should be peaceful and people should observe restraint. “I explained to her the prevailing political situation in the State,” he pointed out.

'BJP is committed to formation of Telangana'

BJP is committed to support the demand for separate Telangana state, the party's former president Rajnath Singh said here today.

"BJP is with the people of Telangana. We are supporting Telangana demand both inside and outside the Parliament," he told reporters.

"I want to assure that no force on earth can stop the formation of separate Telangana," he said.

Regretting the alleged suicides by students and others in support of Telangana demand, Singh appealed to the youth not to end their lives.

"Youth have become emotional for the cause of Telangana. They are committing suicides. I appeal to them not to commit suicides," he said.

He criticised the way Telangana issue was dealt with by the ruling Congress.

BJP had promised to form separate Telangana state in 100 days if the NDA came to power in the general elections, he said.

ABVP joins Telangana stir, Sushma's rally gets go ahead

Decks has been cleared for BJP's student wing Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP) to organise Rana Bheri rally which is in support of a separate Telangana state.

The rally will be held on Saturday and senior BJP leader Sushma Swaraj, who is also the Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha, will addressed the rally. Earlier the Andhra Pradesh High Court had granted conditional permission for the rally to be held.

High Court allows ABVP to hold Telangana rally

The Andhra Pradesh High Court Friday granted conditional permission to the Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad (ABVP), which is close to the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), to hold a public meeting here Saturday.

The court directed the organisers not to make provocative speeches and asked the police to allow only students carrying identity cards at the meeting.

Don’t bite JAC bait, Sonia tells Telangana MLAs

Keen on preventing a Constitutional crisis in the State, the Congress high command has handed out a stern warning to its MLAs from the Telangana region not to walk into the ‘‘trap’’ set by the Political Joint Action Committee (JAC) of Telangana.

The JAC has set Jan 28 as a deadline for all legislators from the region to resign.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Jan 2010 21:33

^^^

The move will add to the problems of the K Rosaiah government, as the state is already in a financial crisis. A state finance department source said on condition of anonymity that the Rs 40,200-crore state plan for 2009-10 might be downsized by about Rs 6,000 crore.

Am I reading it right? If major portion of Telangana doesn't pay taxes it amounts to a loss of Rs 6,000 crore only? How does it support the claims that Telangana brings more revenues than the budget allocations it receives?

I understand it doesn't include Hyderabad city. But we are excluding Hyderabad from all economic indicators of Telangana when we are comparing that region with rest of Andhra.

No wonder the T-JAC is growing desparate and turning radical as the debate (on both sides) brings more and more facts as the time passes by.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 23 Jan 2010 21:36

anuj wrote: 'BJP is committed to formation of Telangana'

BJP has nothing to lose in this issue. It can win the single MLA seat it has irrespective of the Telangana state. That means BJP has givenup building political base in 28MP strong Costa-Andhra region. Venkayya Naidu never put his focus on building party base in AP, some say it is because his association with CBN.

RayC · Post by **RayC** » 23 Jan 2010 21:45

RamaY wrote:
anuj wrote: 'BJP is committed to formation of Telangana'
BJP has nothing to lose in this issue. It can win the single MLA seat it has irrespective of the Telangana state. That means BJP has givenup building political base in 28MP strong Costa-Andhra region. Venkayya Naidu never put his focus on building party base in AP, some say it is because his association with CBN.

BJP is a national party and it understands the Indian political scene well.

That is what I thought you all were advocating!!

Have the messed it up?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 23 Jan 2010 23:30

They all have their Kalidasa* moments.

*Before Kalidasa got 'enlightened' he was a shepherd who was busy sawing off the very branch of a tree he was sitting on. This is the BRF Kalidasa option or moment.

Sarma · Post by **Sarma** » 24 Jan 2010 05:09

I have been thinking and been quite bothered by the utterly one-sided behavior of a national party like BJP when it comes to Andhra Pradesh. They just don't seem to bother about what the people in the "non-Telangana" parts of AP want or don't want. I don't mean to say that BJP shouldn't support the formation of T-state, but that they can adopt a less militant and a more moderate stand. Their behavior is no different from that of a subregional party like TRS.

Should BJP, a national party, tell the rest of AP that they have no right nor should entertain the sentiment of a united AP? That is indeed what Sushma said in the Hyderabad meeting.

Anyways, however unsettling the BJP stance might be, the silver lining is that the more militant BJP and ABVP seem, the more they drive MIM away from taking a pro-T-state stand.

negi · Post by **negi** » 24 Jan 2010 05:48

Lets be honest BJP has always been in favor of creation of smaller states specially where it sees an opportunity to make an opening., moreover Venkaiah Nayadu was associated with Jai Andhra movement so one cannot rule out him influencing the party leadership . Lastly for a national party which does not have a significant base in a big state like AP it is obvious to develop a feeling of apathy towards the people who are against the division because for the former creation of a new state is a change from the status quo .

Yagnasri · Post by **Yagnasri** » 24 Jan 2010 18:24

Mr. Naidu is from Nellore District and was president of V R College of Nellore town and later did his PG from Andhra University at Vishakhapatnam. He has won MLA seat from Udayagiri (Nellore Dist) some 25 years back which he lost later on and since then never contested in any elections. He never even contested for Lok Sabha from AP or any other place. So basically he is a Rajya Sabha politician for many years.

BJP won 4 seats from A.P. with the help of TDP when they were in power and Naidu never tried to increase the party base after that. Now it does not have any leader worth mentioning here. It got two MLA’s from Telangana area an out of that it may lose its seat in Hyderabad because Kishan Reddy is now not going to get any votes from people of Non Telangana Areas who are quire large in number.

Coming bank to Nellore from where Naidu hails, BJP got 7 votes in the last Assembly elections from his village. So much for the former national president of the party. Nellore BJP leaders are part of district lever JAC and I now at least 2 people who have contest for the assembly and one person who contested for counsel taking part in the JAC. But state level and nationa level leadership completely ingnores them.

But unfortunately for BJP the short sited national leadership is now bent up on destroy any growth of the party in No Telangana regions and conduct of its national leaders like Sushma Swaraj, Advani can at best described as stupid. A national party like BJP should be more intelligent in dealing with this kind of issues. Look at TDP and Congress and how they are dealing with the issue. Even CPM and CPI have kept quite after taking a stand.

BJP do have a presence in costal areas of the state which now got completely gone for next decade or so.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Jan 2010 20:13

Look at the BJP Stragety, it looks a bit idiotic the way they are supporting pro Telegana. Seems to me some in party leadership has deceided

- Post YSR supported conversion strategies, thier cause in many districts like Guntur, Kadapa, Ongole is so hopeless that they might as well give up, as now minority populations are so significant, they have no hope at all and given the feild to TDP to represent them

anuj · Post by **anuj** » 24 Jan 2010 20:40

Samaikya andhra wanted a politician to head the committee while telangana wanted a retired judge instead.

Judge to head panel on Telangana

NEW DELHI: A judge will head the committee proposed to be set up to examine issues related to the formation of Telangana.

Sources said that the decision to appoint a judge to head the panel that will also comprise experts has been taken. The issues of whether the panel should be headed by a sitting or retired member of the higher judiciary, the terms of reference of the panel and whether it should have a time-frame for completing its work are to be worked out in the next couple of days.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Jan 2010 21:31

Aditya_V wrote:Look at the BJP Stragety, it looks a bit idiotic the way they are supporting pro Telegana. Seems to me some in party leadership has deceided

- Post YSR supported conversion strategies, thier cause in many districts like Guntur, Kadapa, Ongole is so hopeless that they might as well give up, as now minority populations are so significant, they have no hope at all and given the feild to TDP to represent them

I wonder how Bhajapa will react if this separatism hits bjp ruled states in future if not now.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 25 Jan 2010 00:23

* BJP seeks bill supporting separate Telangana in Par
http://www.ptinews.com/news/483367_BJP- ... ana-in-Par

Jamaat-e-Islami Hind to organise rally in favour of Telangana
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_ja ... na_1338797

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 25 Jan 2010 01:37

joshvajohn wrote: * BJP seeks bill supporting separate Telangana in Par
http://www.ptinews.com/news/483367_BJP- ... ana-in-Par
/quote]

"All consultations and talks are over. Further consultations are not acceptable. They should table a bill in Parliament in the next session," she said.

What kind of consultations and talks are over?

Current BJP's head is from Vidarbha so he may not see AP beyond Telengana. BJP/BJS has been in AP for more than 50 years and They haven't realized why they haven't been able to penetrate into AP.

Their tunnel vision will cost them in the next elections also. Karnataka may be beginning of their retreat.

munna · Post by **munna** » 25 Jan 2010 01:45

Venkarl wrote: I wonder how Bhajapa will react if this separatism hits bjp ruled states in future if not now.

They did it in UP, MP and Bihar and have ruled all states from time to time. BJP is irrelevant in this debate, INC is doing everything and in fact controls all strings. Question instead should be "why did AP keep voting to power those who insulted greatest leader that AP produced and are now dividing the state?". BJP is playing for a new state and being a relevant player there, cause AP is already inclined towards INC no matter what treatment is meted out to leaders or the state. My bet is even if a division occurs we will still see an INC CM of AP in power for foreseeable future.

ShyamSP · Post by **ShyamSP** » 25 Jan 2010 01:54

munna wrote:
Venkarl wrote: I wonder how Bhajapa will react if this separatism hits bjp ruled states in future if not now.
They did it in UP, MP and Bihar and have ruled all states from time to time. BJP is irrelevant in this debate, INC is doing everything and in fact controls all strings. Question instead should be "why did AP keep voting to power those who insulted greatest leader that AP produced and are now dividing the state?". BJP is playing for a new state and being a relevant player there, cause AP is already inclined towards INC no matter what treatment is meted out to leaders or the state. My bet is even if a division occurs we will still see an INC CM of AP in power for foreseeable future.

Unfortunately they are relevant because they have numbers in parliament where this Telangana's formal drama has to start. If they had behaved same way as INC and TDP, i.e it doesn't matter for them which side things go, Telengana would have fizzled out or never would have come to the fore as T-vadis would have realized they didn't have required votes for state formation.

Instead of playing role of nationalists and integrationists, they are engaging in divisive politics and saying 60% Telugus are not relevant for them.