India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

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The Black and white photo is pretty innocuous, it is the one where is wearing a white T-Shirt, Blue Jeans and lifting is Hands in a Monkey/ Gorilla imitation after painting himself black gives insight into his mindset.

Now I kind of get what this Planet of the Apes was all about, that in 1950's /60's. It was more of Caucasians destroying themselves and then being led by " Other races" in the future. Thats why some Monkeys have a tilak etc.. it is pretty revealing of mindsets.
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311 Indians deported by Mexico to arrive in Delhi today
Mexico has deported a group of 311 illegal migrants from India, the first such action taken by the country since it enhanced efforts to crack down on people using its territory to sneak into the US.
The Indian nationals did not have documentation to stay in Mexico and their deportation was arranged after their identities were verified by Indian authorities, people familiar with developments said. No further deportations were expected, they added.

The deportation was done in “excellent communication and coordination” with Indian authorities and under the provisions of the migration law and regulations, the Mexican statement said. The deportees are being accompanied by federal migration agents and officials of the National Guard of Mexico.
In recent years, Indian migrants have made efforts to illegally cross over to the US from Mexico. The number of migrants detained along the southern US border over the past 12 months rose to nearly 1 million, according to official data. In September, INM reported that 42 Indians were among 167 illegal migrants detained by authorities in Veracruz state.
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If NDP becomes crucial for Canada's pappu, then the Khalistanis will have outsized influence on his govt. India-Canada ties are in for rough ride.

Trudeau has won the most seats -- but not a majority. What happens next?
The Liberals have once more won the most seats in the House of Commons, but this time they do not have an outright majority. So what happens next?

With fewer than the 170 seats needed to command the House on their own, Justin Trudeau will need the support of at least one other party to pass legislation in Parliament -- and survive a confidence vote on a speech from the throne laying out his plans for governing.
Trudeau has a few options. For one, he might bet that no party will want to bring down the government and potentially force another election -- or otherwise give the Conservatives the opportunity to form government.

In that case, Trudeau would not make any agreements with the opposition parties, bet that he would survive a potential confidence vote anyway, and from there see if he could secure support on an issue-to-issue basis.

But if he wants a more stable situation, Trudeau could make a more formal deal with another party to secure its support on confidence matters, an arrangement dubbed a "confidence and supply" agreement.

Such a deal is in place in British Columbia, where the NDP are in government and maintain a parliamentary majority thanks to support from the provincial Greens.

At the federal level, the most likely partner for such an agreement would be the NDP under Jagmeet Singh. During the campaign, Singh laid out six priorities for supporting another party in a minority, including pharmacare, investments in housing and action on climate change.

In exchange for maintaining the minority government, the NDP would expect to influence government policy on these files.
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Conservatives win popular vote but lose election
According to CTV's election results as of early Tuesday morning, the Conservatives took 6,139,185 of Canada's nearly 18 million ballots cast, claiming 34.4 per cent of the popular vote compared to the Liberals' 33.1 per cent -- a difference of more than 243,000 votes.
As expected, the Conservatives dominated in the Prairies, where they picked up all 14 seats in Saskatchewan, including Regina-Wascana, the riding held by high-profile Liberal MP and cabinet minister Ralph Goodale since 1993.

In Alberta, the Conservatives were one seat short of a complete sweep, after the NDP won in the Edmonton riding of Edmonton-Strathcona. In Manitoba, the party even gained extra seats in Winnipeg for a total of seven of the province's 14 seats.

This apparent blue wave in the prairies coupled with a Liberal minority win has breathed new life into a western separatist movement that taps into the anger and frustration of voters who feel they've been short-changed and unrepresented by the federal government. see below news

'Ottawa doesn't care': Western separatist movement gains traction as Albertans react to Liberal victory
News of a Liberal minority win has breathed new life into the western separatist movement, tapping into the anger and frustration of voters who feel they’ve been short-changed by the federal government.
Early Tuesday, #Wexit began trending on Twitter in Canada, igniting calls for the West to separate from the rest of Canada.

“Trudeau's re-election is going to tear Canada in half. Good job Quebec. You'll get your separatism desires. The west is leaving,” read one tweet echoing the sentiment of many tweeting using the hashtag.
Calls for western separation are not new. In the 2019 provincial election, the Alberta Independence party received about 13,400 votes, less than one per cent of the popular vote. The party’s main policy platform is Alberta’s secession from Canada.
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Canada''s top ''dem leader'' Jagmeet a fundraiser for terror outfits: Intel
Latest dossier prepared by Indian Intelligence agencies says that Jagmeet, leader of the New Democratic Party(NDP), not only shelters activists of Khalistan in Canada, he leads the anti-Indian movement in the Americas, more vociferously, after India revoked special status to Jammu and Kashmir, early August 2019.

To the surprise of many diplomats in South Block -- the seat of India''s foreign office in New Delhi -- Singh, born to immigrant Indian parents, organised a conference of pro-Khalistan activists in Ontario in 2013, aimed at maligning the image of India abroad.

Two years later in 2015, as legislature member of NDP, Singh appeared at a pro-Khalistan rally in San-Francisco. He blatantly showered praises for dreaded terror leader Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale, killed in a gunfight in Operation Blue Star.

In 2016, Singh went a step further when he endorsed the use of violence as a legitimate form of resistance to achieve an independent Sikh homeland out of India.

Since 2012, Jagmeet Singh now 40, has been on the radar of Indian Intelligence agencies.
Latest reports suggest that Jagmeet Singh is also trying to bring Khalistani and Kashmiri separatists under one umbrella in Canada. Recently he held a meeting in this connection at his residence in Ontario.

After the abrogation of Article 370 by the Modi government, Singh had expressed his support to pro-Pakistan propaganda on Kashmir. In various local media platforms Singh issued statements against India and accused the country of human rights violations in the region.
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Not strictly india related, but the topic is flying a bit under the radar,
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles ... ed-explode
In a world aflame with protest, Latin America stands out as a raging ten-alarm fire. From Bolivia to Ecuador, Haiti to Honduras, the closing months of 2019 have seen enormous, sometimes violent demonstrations prompted by a truly dizzying array of grievances, including electoral fraud, corruption, and rising fuel and public transportation prices. Even Chile, the region’s ostensible oasis of calm and prosperity, erupted in protests and riots that left 20 dead and forced President Sebastián Piñera to declare a state of emergency. It is now an open question whether any country in the region can be considered truly stable.
In a world aflame with protest, Latin America stands out as a raging ten-alarm fire. From Bolivia to Ecuador, Haiti to Honduras, the closing months of 2019 have seen enormous, sometimes violent demonstrations prompted by a truly dizzying array of grievances, including electoral fraud, corruption, and rising fuel and public transportation prices. Even Chile, the region’s ostensible oasis of calm and prosperity, erupted in protests and riots that left 20 dead and forced President Sebastián Piñera to declare a state of emergency. It is now an open question whether any country in the region can be considered truly stable.
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https://www.dw.com/en/chile-protests-an ... a-51029509
Pinera has sought to quell the unrest in his country by acknowledging citizens' concerns and by replacing his entire Cabinet. Following 10 days of street demonstrations, which were sparked by a hike in transportation fees, the Chilean president's popularity has sunk to historic lows.

"Chile has changed and the government must change," Pinera said.

But just hours after the new Cabinet was brought in, thousands of protesters gathered in the capital, Santiago. One group of protesters set fire to a building that houses a fast food restaurant and stores.

Looters targeted a pharmacy, while another group tried to set a subway station on fire. It was a repeat of the vandalism that took place in last week's protests, when dozens of train stations were left shuttered due to fire damage
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Last month , Mexican govt currently ruled by leftists arrested Ovidio Guzmán, heir apparent and son of imprisoned Sinaloa cartel leader Joaquín Guzmán (El Chapo). Within hours, the cartel retaliated by taking over Sinaloa capital city Culiacan. The leftist Mexican govt fearing a massacre caved in and released him.

Now in another cartel related violence, Nine members of Mormon family, dual U.S.-Mexican citizens, ambushed, shot and burned alive in northern Mexico
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AMERICA’S OPIOID CRISIS HEADS SOUTH TO MEXICO
Fentanyl is part of a two-pronged crisis that’s turning the country — traditionally known more as a route for drugs meant for the U.S. — into a bigger domestic market for narcotics than ever before. With American authorities under the Trump administration tightening border security and cracking down on the production of illicit drugs in their territory, Mexican cartels are increasingly flooding their homeland instead with fentanyl and methamphetamine, another synthetic drug.
In many ways, the arrival of fentanyl use in Mexico is of America’s making and a consequence of the opioid crisis currently rocking the U.S., where for years unfettered pharmaceutical companies marketed highly addictive opioid painkillers to medical professionals and patients. Patients got addicted, and when their insurance or prescriptions ran out, they turned to street-market Mexican heroin to feed their habits. Some of that heroin contained fentanyl to make it stronger, although drug users weren’t necessarily aware of that because these were illegal drugs.

Once addicts discovered they were taking fentanyl and that it was a stronger opioid than heroin, some of them left heroin behind altogether. The fentanyl industry that grew out of that demand — the drug goes into the U.S. direct from China in the postal system as well as via the border produced by Mexican cartels — has found a new market.

“Because of our insatiable demand for all kinds of drugs, other countries such as Mexico supply them,” says Vigil, the former DEA agent. “And they also supply users in their own country. Source countries eventually create addiction, drug overdose deaths and devastated communities. Mexico is no exception.”
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Brazil President Bolsonaro to be chief guest at India's Republic Day celebrations
The Brazilian President expressed his readiness and informed Prime Minister Modi that a large business delegation will accompany him to India, it said, adding that the two leaders also discussed other areas of cooperation including space and defence sectors.

Modi also welcomed the decision of the President to grant visa-free travel to Indian citizens.

Predictable the anti-Modi brigade starting with coupta's rag and pappu's family paper and their assorted media durbaris have started whining about Bolsonaro's far right credentials. They dont have the brain to realize that he is coming as a president of Brazil and not in his individual capacity.
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Could we see Embraer coming off the Blacklist and more agreements for another 6 NETRA?
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Brazil has a nuclear sub program based on scorpene ,I see some collaboration on that front, plus Brazil might be interested in collaboration in AMCA program just like South Korea and Indonesia collaboration in KX program
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Isn't it racist and narrow-minded to omit an entire continent from the forum - other than Antarctica? So I am remedying this atrocity.
Besides, it is clear that South America has MUCH to contribute and is really "ahead of the curve" in Parliamentary democracy
Here we gasp when Poojya Mantrini is whispered to have "been a fashion model" modeling 8-foot saris. Behind the curves or what?
Politicians are normally judged by what they do rather than on what they wear, but one lawmaker in Brazil has caused a stir over her ‘revealing’ first-day outfit choice and says she’ll sue those abusing her online.
Ana Paula da Silva, known locally as Paulinha, had previously served two stints as a city mayor before being elected to the Brazilian state of Santa Catarina’s Legislative Assembly in October. But she rose to wider public attention in January, after pictures posted from the assembly’s opening day went viral and began to garner some unsavory attention.
The striking red outfit with the plunging neckline that the state deputy wore was quick to attract comments online. Some immediately questioned if it was the right place for her to wear it.
And that's just for starters...
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There is already a India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion thread

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5359&start=840
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Poor combo.Too US-centric vision. Mexico and Canada are in North America.
Brazil, Argentina, Peru, are a looong way from there. Brazil is the 3rd or 4th largest nation in the dunia IIRC my geography. One of the BRICS, except the S (So Africa) seems to have dropped by the wayside. The Amazon forest which is burning, is in Brazil. Lots of very important issues being decided in South America, and India AFAIK has a very small radar image there. However South and Central Americans have a great deal in common with desis.
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Why don't we invite such luminary to further cause of electric cars and policies therein instead of wasting time over somenude model making an issue at Sabrimala temple.
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Glenn greenwald interview with Evo Morales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hEwE64-kUQ

Interesting snippets on how he escaped the country
How a party with 4 % of votes is now running the country
How the US interfered in the elections
How the OAS published a report that the eelctions were a fraud even though more than 90 other neutral experts said there was no fraud.

It's about 50 mins and very good.
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India-Canada relations frigid due to Pakistan
Ever since the diplomatically disastrous trip of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s to India two years ago, the New Delhi-Ottawa relations have been at an ebb. Reason: the increasing influence of Pakistan in Canada.

The Indo-Canadian bilateral relationship has soured so much that recently, in a trivial case, the country’s top intelligence agency Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) unsuccessfully attempted to get an Indian national’s application for citizenship rejected by accusing him of “covertly influencing” Canadian politicians against Khalistanis (Sikh separatists).

The Canadian court dismissed the accusations against the Indian national, who is an editor of a newspaper in New Delhi but the CSIS ensured that the allegation became the news in the Canadian press.


All this began, sources said, when Canadians of Khalistani-background and Pakistani- descent began to assume significant positions in the Liberal Party of Canada and especially, the Trudeau government.

The Defence Minister of Canada, Harjit Singh Sajjan and the Science and Technology Minister in the Trudeau government, have been publicly called Khalistani sympathizers by Punjab Chief Minister Captain Amrinder Singh. Even the Canadian opposition, New Democratic Party (NDP) leader Jagmeet Singh is an open supporter of Khalistanis.

The Sikh militancy in the 1980s, seeking secession from India and a separate Khalistan state, was sponsored by Pakistan’s military and ISI. Thousands of innocent people in Punjab were killed by Khalistani separatists. Though the militancy was wiped out by the Indian security forces, but in the last five years, several attempts by the ISI in connivance with the separatist diaspora of Sikhs to revive the Khalistani terrorism have been made.

The sensitivity about the issue in India, is however, lost in Canada. The government caucus in Canada has four Pakistani Canadians, who according to sources, have links to Pakistan’s intelligence agency ISI. Iqra Khalid of Jamaat-e-Islami shares the strongest relationship with the ISI, sources said.

Another Pakistani Canadian, Jawad Hussain Qureshi, works in one of the most important departments of the Canadian government – “the Privy Council Office” – which helps the Prime Minister and the Cabinet, in “implementing its vision, goals and decisions in a timely manner”.

Pakistan’s influence in Canada is so enormous that even though very few Pakistanis live in Vancouver, but Islamabad has a consulate in the city. Sources said the consulate remains in close contact with the massive Khalistani population in Vancouver
. Incidentally, the Sikh Premier and Canadian Labour party member Ujjal Dosanjh was attacked in 1985 in Vancouver because he opposed Khalistan.

Last year, former United Conservative Party member Jason Kenney was investigated by Alberta’s election commissioner for recruiting members of the Pakistani community to support his leadership bid. The revelation was made by Tariq Chaudhry, former president of Pakistan Canada Association who regularly reports to Pakistan consulate in Toronto, sources said.

But above all, sources said, the spokesperson and a recruiter of the CSIS, Tahera Mufti is also of Pakistani-descent. In a piece published in the Canadian press last year, Mufti accused foreign actors of attempting to directly influence the upcoming federal election campaign.” Conspicuously, while the piece referred to “foreign actors” such as India, Russia, China and Saudi Arabia, she made no mention of Pakistan in her statement.


Interestingly, Trudeau’s former principal secretary and advisor Gerald Butts later accused Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi of “screwing” the Canadian Prime Minister during his 2018 trip to India and helping his opposition, the Canadian Conservatives.

“With such Pakistani influence in the Canadian government, there is almost a complete indifference towards India,” a source in Ottawa said. Official sources in New Delhi acknowledged the problem. “The relations are so frigid that India finally sent one of its best diplomats, Ajay Bisaria, to repair the relations,” an official said.
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Pakistani Influence in Canada cannot happen without Arab-Chinese-US and above all UK approval.
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Indians are more numerous then Porkis in canada and every year record number of Indians migrate to that country. In fact Indians have constituted to be one of the largest new Permanent residents group for some years. Most of the Indians who migrate are qualified and end up doing well paid jobs. How long before this combination of quality and quantity overwhelms the Porkis and their backers?
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Vips wrote:Indians are more numerous then Porkis in canada and every year record number of Indians migrate to that country. In fact Indians have constituted to be one of the largest new Permanent residents group for some years. Most of the Indians who migrate are qualified and end up doing well paid jobs. How long before this combination of quality and quantity overwhelms the Porkis and their backers?
Arent significant section of 'Indians' in Canada Khalistanis ? Vancouver is full of them. In Pappu Trudeau's team, there are 4 "Indians" , 3 of whom are Khalistani sympathizers.
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I am sure number of Indians who are not khalistani sympathizers are many more then what is visible in Vancouver. The whole Toronto/Mississauga area is full of law abiding/ideal citizen- white collar Indians. Just a mater of time before the large number of Indians in canada will make their presence felt like they did in UK and USA.
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Indians in Canada are not politically organized yet. Indian Americans were like this in 80s.
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Sikhs in Canada are very well represented. They are a vote bank for the Liberal party. So successful that there is a massive influx of Sikhs into Canada in the last three years.

The Hindu wants little more than dollars, professional opportunities and admission to medical school for their children. They are innocent of any ambitions beyond.

Hindus could be have been observed to keep a similar profile in Britain. I was surprised at the heavy representation in Johnson’s party and cabinet. It is possible that as the Conservative party in Canada evolves to a less xenophobic more meritocratic institution, Hindus will be a natural voter base.
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Notice how all political visitors to India, from Canada( whether liberal or conservative), make a beeline to Amritsar, after the first stop in New Delhi. No Canadian VIP goes to Tirupathi or Varanasi and positively not on any publicised visit.
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Yes. Captain amarinder Singh was refused. Visa 2016 to campaign in Vancouver and Toronto. Yet every Canadian politician is an affcianado of temple architecture.

I believer marinder Singh declined to meet the Canadian PM in 2018.
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Canadian Ethics Commissioner Begins Probe Into Justin Trudeau For $664 Million Charity Program
https://swarajyamag.com/insta/canadian- ... ty-program
Dion initiated his investigation after two Canadian MPs requested him to examine the prime minister's conduct in relation to the contract.

In a letter to an MP, Dion said he will be investigating Trudeau under subsection 6(1) of the act, which prohibits public office holders from making decisions that further their own private interests or the interests of another person.

Trudeau also is being investigated under sections 7 and 21 of the act, which deal with giving someone preferential treatment and failing to recuse from a conflict of interest.
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https://twitter.com/StewGlobal/status/1 ... 2412633092
  1. When 2 business partners from Ontario and BC tried to board planes in Vancouver, they learned they were on the no-fly list. Today, @globalnews
    reveals the disturbing contents of the secret intelligence files that got them listed.
  2. One is a Brampton rental car company owner CSIS alleges planned a terrorist attack in #India at the behest of Pakistan's ISI intelligence service.
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  3. The attack was allegedly thwarted in 2017 with the arrest of two men caught retrieving an arms and ammunition cache.
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  4. He is also described in the Canadian intelligence reports as having been involved in "fundraising in support of terrorist attacks overseas."
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  5. His business partner, who sits on the board of directors of a Vancouver credit union, is also described by CSIS as a terrorism facilitator.
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  6. Both denied the CSIS allegations.
  7. But after reviewing their denials & weighing them against the CSIS case brief, the government decided to keep them on the no-fly list.
  8. Despite the allegations, neither has been charged with any terrorism offences. The RCMP's response to @globalnews
    : https://globalnews.ca/news/7147226/secr ... -fly-list/
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Ref: https://globalnews.ca/news/7147226/secr ... -fly-list/
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55152462
India responds to Trudeau's 'ill-informed' remarks
India has denounced Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's "ill-informed" remarks regarding an ongoing farmers' protest in India's capital.
Mr Trudeau and Conservative opposition leader Erin O'Toole both made comments this week expressing concern over India's response to the demonstrations.
"Canada will always be there to defend the right of peaceful protest," Mr Trudeau said on Monday.
Thousands of farmers have travelled to Delhi to protest agricultural reforms.
Protesters were met last week with barricades at Delhi's border and clashes erupted between farmers and police.
Photos and video of the encounters show scenes of authorities deploying tear gas and water cannons to stop the farmers from entering the city.
Farmers are now being escorted by police to a protest site where they are expected to continue demonstrating against the reforms, which will open the farming sector to private players.
Speaking on Monday to celebrate the birth of Guru Nanak Dev Ji, the founder of Sikhism, Mr Trudeau mentioned the protests and called it a "concerning" situation.
"We're all very worried about family and friends," he said during the virtual celebration. "We believe in the importance of dialogue and that's why we've reached out through multiple means directly to the Indian authorities to highlight our concerns."
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https://www.opindia.com/2020/12/canada- ... ssion=true

What it means to be aiming for a $5 trillion GDP.

Hope the Indians are prepared for some brown face and an ethnic dance :eek:
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Let Canada never forget the biggest terror attack planned and executed from their soil by Khalistani terrorists - the Kanishka Bombing.

Twitter Link
BLOG LINK: West And Terror - The Story of the Kanishka Bombing
Talwinder Singh Parmar had been on the run from Indian authorities since 1981 and and had found refuge in Canada. In 1982, India issued a warrant for Parmar’s arrest for six charges of murder stemming from the killing of men of Punjab Police in Ludhiana & notified Canada that he was a wanted terrorist. However, Canada refused to extradite him.
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In late 1984, at least two informers reported to authorities on the first abortive plot to bomb Air India Flight 182, which flew out of Montreal’s Mirabel International Airport at that time. In August 1984, the known criminal Gerry Boudreault claimed that Talwinder Parmar showed him a suitcase stuffed with $200,000, payment to plant a bomb. He refused to do so.

Then in September, in an attempt to get his sentence for theft and fraud reduced, Harmail Singh Grewal of Vancouver told the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of the plot to bomb the flight from Montreal.

What did the Canadians do? They fcuking DISMISSED these two reports pointing to the SAME plot from two UNRELATED sources as UNRELIABLE.

Finally, in early 1985, the CSIS obtained a court order to place Parmar under surveillance for one year. On 09 June 1985, a police informer in Hamilton reported that Parmar and Bagri had visited the Malton Sikh Gurudwara, warning the faithful that “it would be unsafe” to fly Air India.

The CSIS / RCMP couldn’t have asked for any more red flags pointing towards a plot to bomb an Air India flight out of Canada. But nope, nothing was done.
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Apparently, James Bartleman, then Director General of the Intelligence & Security Bureau of the CSIS External Affairs Division, told the Air India Commission that he had seen secret info which “indicated that Flight 182 would be targeted.”

Now intelligence cannot get any more pointed than this. But when he brought this same info to the notice of an RCMP official, Bartleman testified that ‘he was met with a hostile reception’.

Mind you, he was a DG in the CSIS!

And then we are to believe it was mere inter agency turf wars at play!

Sorry, I refuse to believe that. Just as I suspect, the 329 departed souls would refuse too.
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A good, professional agency would have reconciled it with inputs it already had, and upped its vigil. But then it was the RCMP. They chose to not only NOT forward the input to CSIS, but not even to THEIR OWN internal dept responsible for preparing threat assessments.

The RCMP were already aware of possible plots to target Air India aircraft, yet they dismissed even this input from Air India itself as a ‘ploy’ by the national carrier of a third world, commie aligned nation (remember, Afghan ‘Jihad’ was then underway) to secure additional security FOR FREE!
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But the ‘funny’ doesn’t end here. Justice John Major noted in amazement as to how could the RCMP not share the telex from Air India with the CSIS.

On the contrary, RCMP provided erroneous information to former Ontario Premier Bob Rae during his 2005 investigation.
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The saddest part to Major was that during testimonies the ‘government counsel’ tried ‘to discredit this witness.’ Simpson’s evidence, he said, ‘revealed numerous weaknesses in security.’ I think I’ve said enough. Time to stop now, since my blood is still boiling at this wilful murder.
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g.sarkar wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55152462
India responds to Trudeau's 'ill-informed' remarks
India has denounced Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's "ill-informed" remarks regarding an ongoing farmers' protest in India's capital.
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Call me a hawk but I fail to understand why India is so meek in its response or we punch way below our weight ??

What stops us fromA press conference by a cabinet minister (Say Rajnath Singh) to hold a press conference on this issue and giving Kanadaaa some gyaan
1. On its failure to properly investigate & extradicade terrorists responsible for Kanishka bombing

2. Use of brutal force by police during recent BLM protest and teaching kanadaa some principles of democracy, justice etc etc & expressing serious concerns over human rights violation by police and lack of any actions for the persons responsible.

3. The background wall of where above press conference is held should have 106 inch screen :mrgreen: playing videos of police brutality on BLM protests, kanisha bombing footage etc etc on loop.

some time being a little aggressive is best, even on diplomatic matters too.

Also next time when Trudeau visits India, he should be welcomed at airport by at max by local post office head only.
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Mollick.R wrote:
g.sarkar wrote:https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55152462
India responds to Trudeau's 'ill-informed' remarks
India has denounced Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's "ill-informed" remarks regarding an ongoing farmers' protest in India's capital.
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Gautam
Call me a hawk but I fail to understand why India is so meek in its response or we punch way below our weight ??

What stops us fromA press conference by a cabinet minister (Say Rajnath Singh) to hold a press conference on this issue and giving Kanadaaa some gyaan
1. On its failure to properly investigate & extradicade terrorists responsible for Kanishka bombing

2. Use of brutal force by police during recent BLM protest and teaching kanadaa some principles of democracy, justice etc etc & expressing serious concerns over human rights violation by police and lack of any actions for the persons responsible.

3. The background wall of where above press conference is held should have 106 inch screen :mrgreen: playing videos of police brutality on BLM protests, kanisha bombing footage etc etc on loop.

some time being a little aggressive is best, even on diplomatic matters too.

Also next time when Trudeau visits India, he should be welcomed at airport by at max by local post office head only.
Canadian ambassador should be summoned as a demarche issued.
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Unless until non Khali Indian Canadians take active role in political area and reach a position of some real power the Canadian political parties play the game of pakis and their B team i.e. Khalis. That can not be escaped. The relationship between Bharat and Canada are going to down slide only. There is no clear strategic interest that will force Canada to stop this down slide as of now or in near future.
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The Khalis get their power from the deep state of UK, non Khalis if the act up will face the full power of the system. From the 1850's the Punjabi Muslim has been mostly loyal to the colonial system, hence the system which is spread across the UK-US, Canadian left and Govt. is trying best to make sure that Isloo and Lahore dominate the Sub continent.

There are so short cuts, we have to develop capabilities over the long term.
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+1008.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... s-protests
India summons Canada envoy as row deepens over Trudeau's protest remarks
Leyland Cecco, Fri 4 Dec 2020

India has summoned Canada’s top diplomat to protest at comments by Justin Trudeau on recent mass protests by farmers in the country. Indian officials warned that continued “interference” in domestic affairs could harm relations between the two countries.
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Guardian is biased as usual.
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I bet Canadian pappu (True-Doo) and his goon's heart never bled for these Sikhs toiling and being abused in Italy. It is high time, Canadian Pappu and minister's hypocrisy should be shown to aam aadmi. Not that it will change anything, but good to stay well informed.

Exploitation in the fields: Sikh workers toil under gangmasters on Italian farms
When most people think of the Italian Mafia, cinematic clichés of gangsters fighting turf wars on the hardscrabble streets of blighted metropolises are apt to spring to mind.

What likely doesn't is a lush expanse of Italian farmland lined with giant eucalyptus trees tended by a vast community of Sikh workers under the tight control of criminal organizations.

But an hour's drive south of Rome in the province of Latina live and toil as many as 35,000 farm labourers from Punjab, most exploited, some enslaved, say labour unions and community leaders.

They say many arrive in Italy by paying a middleman as much as $20,000 for a legal visa before falling under the harsh control of an unofficial but widespread gangmaster system known in Italy as caporalato.

The UN special rapporteur on contemporary slavery, Urmila Bhoola, described the system as putting workers under extreme forms of coercion through sexual and physical violence and forced ingestion of performance-enhancing drugs.

"The caporalato system consists not only of labour brokers who supply irregular and regular migrants to farms, but it is also said to be underpinned by a network of criminal syndicates and Mafia groups who benefit from the exploitation in slavery-like conditions of migrant workers," Bhoola wrote after visiting the area in late 2018.

Sikh workers pick vegetables for up to 14 hours a day. (Megan Williams/CBC)
The threat of violence is so strong among these fields of tomatoes, zucchini and lettuce, dilapidated greenhouses and shacks that few workers risk talking about the conditions they work under.

Gurmukh Singh, the local grocer and community organizer, is an exception.

Singh lived under the caporalato system for 14 years before saving enough money to open his small shop in Borgo Hermada, an enclave of wide roads and neglected two-storey homes just inland from the tourist town of Terracina.

Offering advice

It now serves as an informal community centre, with Sikhs dropping by for help translating a contract or advice on how to deal with a boss who threatens to take away a work permit or who deducts a week's pay if a worker misses half a day to renew a residency permit.

"We do everything in this area from planting to harvesting," says Singh, standing near a stack of honey-soaked Punjabi sweets as his wife tends the cash register. Some 30 per cent of the workers here are women.

"For Sikhs, the Earth is the mother," says Singh. "But we are punished by the bosses if we ask to be treated properly."

Gurmukh Singh runs a small grocery store in Borgo Hermada after working for 14 years under the caporali system. (Megan Williams/CBC)
Singh says for many, conditions have only slightly improved since what he experienced at age 17, some 25 years ago.

"They paid us $2 or $3 an hour. When we said we needed $5, plus boots and gloves, they threatened to take our documents away and they even beat us. I worked so hard I had to tie my legs together when I went to sleep so they wouldn't jump."

Singh Manjit stops by to pick up a few items before he heads to the fields. For the past 16 years, he's tended everything from zucchinis and radishes to eggplants and melons for just $6 an hour.

"I suffer from backaches, but I don't do drugs like a lot of the younger men do," says Manjit.

Grocery store owner Gurmukh Singh chats with farm worker Singh Manjit. (Megan Williams/CBC)
Addiction to opium, opioids, heroin and anti-spastic drugs among the Sikh workers has mushroomed in recent years, according to Sikhs, rights workers and doctors. They say many workers chew dried poppy pods, which contain low levels of morphine and codeine that can lead to addiction.

Marching in protest

To manage excruciating back pain after hours of picking watermelons weighing as much as 20 kilograms, some workers slip opium into their morning tea, with gangmasters, or caporali, forcing drug use as well, say Sikh workers.

In 2016, Singh, with the help of sociologist and fellow activist Marco Omizzolo, organized the first Sikh farm workers strike. Despite threats from bosses and fear of reprisal, 4,000 Sikhs marched through the provincial capital of Latina to protest pay and conditions.

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Last September, they organized another protest where representatives from Italy's largest workers' unions joined 1,500 Sikhs.

Despite their efforts, workers continue to toil 6½ days a week, up to 14 hours a day. Italian law dictates that agricultural workers can work no more than six hours a day at $12 an hour.

Sikh workers toil in fields in Italy. (Megan Williams/CBC)
Omizzolo says there have been more than a dozen suicides among Sikh workers in the last four years and that under pressure from bosses, workers often don't report workplace accidents or, in a case earlier this year, misreport it as a "car accident."

"This area is a gigantic money-producing machine and nobody wants to stop the exploitation because the whole agro-economy it's based on would collapse," says Omizzolo, who grew up in the area.

Omizzolo took up the cause of Sikh workers after growing curious about the Sikhs he spotted pedalling along the country roads at dawn and dusk, their figures bent over in the distant fields during the long days.

Learning about their lives

He decided to work alongside them for several months to learn about their lives as part of his PhD in sociology. What he experienced turned him into an activist and taught him, he says, about how state neglect is an unofficial policy of tacit endorsement of exploitation.

"This province is very important for its agriculture for Europe. There are 10,000 agriculture co-ops here, but there are only two inspectors. Only two," he says.

"When the local bosses see their cars coming, they send a text message to the workers and everyone hops on their bicycle so when inspector arrives, he sees just two workers."

Marco Omizzolo, left, chats with a Sikh farm labourer. (Megan Williams/CBC)
Italy's infamous red tape and backlog of court cases also make criminal prosecution rare.

"There's terrible confusion about the administrative and investigative roles that waste time and resources," Italian high court judge Bruno Giordano recently told Espresso magazine.

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Giordano was instrumental in pushing for a law that not only allows for the arrest of caporali, the middle-men who acquire and mistreat workers, but also the seizure of property of the co-op owners. "But to carry out a raid on just one co-op involves co-ordinating with the health department, the labour inspector, the local police and other agencies."

Omizzolo's advocating for the rights of the Sikhs earned him an Order of Merit of the Italian Republic in December 2018. But it's come at a high personal price. In the past several years, he says he's had two cars destroyed and dozens of death threats. He's now under police protection.

Sikh workers find solace and solidarity in the local tmple, which is housed in the back of a factory. (Megan Williams/CBC)
And it's still a challenge to encourage the young Sikh workers to stand up for their rights.

He says spending Sunday afternoons at the local Sikh temple set up in the back of an empty factory among the fields has been essential. There, hundreds of workers gather to worship and share a meal together during what for most is their only half-day off.

"One of principles of Sikhism is the equality among people," he says. "So I stress that to the young men afraid of the bosses that even those cruel bosses are equal to them. Giving that message in this religious place is what got people finally protesting."
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https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/j ... 2020-12-05
Jaishankar to skip Canada-led Covid strategy meet days after Justin Trudeau's remarks on farmers' protest
EAM Jaishankar will skip Canada-led coronavirus pandemic strategy meetings days after Canadian PM Justin Trudeau's remarks on the farmers' protest, resulting in a diplomatic row between the two countries.
Geeta Mohan , New Delhi, December 5, 2020

External Affairs Minister (EAM) S Jaishankar will skip Canada-led meetings to formulate strategies on the coronavirus pandemic amid the fresh row between the two nations over remarks made by Canadian PM Justin Trudeau on the ongoing farmers' protest in India.
India Today TV has learned that New Delhi has informed Ottawa that EAM Jaishankar will not attend the meeting that is to take place on December 7 due to "scheduling issues".
The government sources said the Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) told the Canadian government that Jaishankar is not available to attend the December 7 meeting organised by Canadian Foreign Minister Francois-Philippe Champagne because of "scheduling" issues.
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https://thediplomat.com/2020/12/india-w ... relations/
India Warns Canada as the Trudeau Comments Threaten Relations
The Indian foreign ministry’s statement after it summoned the Canadian high commissioner is unlikely to go down well in Ottawa.
Abhijnan Rej, December 04, 2020

Recent comments by Canadian politicians around the ongoing farmers’ protests in India continue to make waves in New Delhi. On December 4, the Indian foreign ministry summoned the Canadian high commissioner to India, Nadir Patel, and “informed that comments by the Canadian Prime Minister, some Cabinet Ministers and Members of Parliament on issues relating to Indian farmers constitute an unacceptable interference in our internal affairs,” according to a statement it released.
In a sign that comments by Canadian Defense Minister Harjit Singh Sajjan and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, among others, continue to rankle the Indian government to the point that it is willing to wade into a serious diplomatic row with Ottawa, the statement added: “Such actions, if continued, would have a seriously damaging impact on ties between India and Canada.” This is the strongest reaction so far from the Indian government on the issue.
While the Indian foreign ministry had earlier expressed displeasure at Sajjan and Trudeau’s remarks, Minister of External Affairs S. Jaishankar, in an interview with the Hindu on December 2, had tried to downplay it. Interestingly, in that interview Jaishankar said, “We made a statement, which lays out our position very clearly,” suggesting that the matter was closed as far as the foreign ministry was concerned. It is therefore unclear what brought on the demarche to the Canadian High Commissioner two days later, especially since Trudeau has not spoken out again.
Speaking on November 30 about the ongoing farmers’ protests – led by Sikh farmers for Punjab – on the occasion of the birth anniversary of the founder of Sikhism, Trudeau had said: “I would be remiss if I didn’t start by recognizing the news coming from India about the protest by farmers. The situation is concerning. We are all very worried about family and friends. I know that’s a reality for many of you. Let me remind you, Canada will always be there to defend the rights of peaceful protest.” The day before, Sajjan, a Sikh-Canadian of Indian ancestry, had also tweeted out his concern.
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