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Canada's state broadcaster, the CBC, is trying to promote a game of moral equivalency, by saying that Hindus in Canada are a mirror image of the Khalistani extremists in Canada (aka. 'equal-equal blame', 'both are equally at fault')



There have been zero attacks on Gurdwaras in Canada (none done by Hindus anyway, white extremists are a different matter)
There have been a series of attacks on Hindu temples in Canada, spray-painting name of "sant bhindranwale", "hindustan murdabad", etc.

But somehow CBC wants us to believe that Canada's Hindus are "equally to blame" for this -- brown-skinned 'SouthAsian' lefties like Chandrima Chakraborty are helping to spread that narrative. Urban Naxals will never miss any opportunity.
Notice that the CBC reporter is Chinese.

Take a look at this other recent CBC article, authored by the same Chinese journalist:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/rss-hind ... -1.6764114

Again, this CBC article promotes the narrative that "Canada is being infiltrated by RSS" -- citing warnings from the World Sikh Organization and the National Council of Canadian Muslims. Btw, WSO is banned in India, and is well-known for supporting Khalistan -- and again, the spokesman for WSO is Chinese.

You'll tell me that I'm being prejudiced against Chinese, but I find there are a lot of strange coincidences happening here.
The CBC has become another BBC -- a bastion of leftists and aligned ethnic lobbies.
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Exactly. And it wasn't Hindus who blew up an Air India jet in 1985( flight 182) and nearly destroyed another one over the Pacific. This was the worst terror attack involving an airliner before the World Trade Centre destruction in Sept/2001. I have already responded to her( Chandrima Chakraborty) a professor of English and cultural studies in McMaster University in Hamilton, ON.
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Varoon Shekhar wrote:^
Exactly. And it wasn't Hindus who blew up an Air India jet in 1985( flight 182) and nearly destroyed another one over the Pacific. This was the worst terror attack involving an airliner before the World Trade Centre destruction in Sept/2001. I have already responded to her( Chandrima Chakraborty) a professor of English and cultural studies in McMaster University in Hamilton, ON.
Oh, but according to Khalistanis back in the day, Air India flight 182 was bombed by Indian govt specifically to smear the Khalistan movement.

And what's worse is that Canadian media peddled this allegation directly at the time.

Zuhair Kashmeri, a Kashmiri activist and "journalist" in Canada wrote the book "Soft Target" detailing how India bombed the Air India flight, and he became a regular invitee on Canadian news programs. CBC's well-known anchor Wendy Mesley jovially used to call him "Kash".

After the 9-11 attacks happened and America's "War on Terror" began, then however "Kash" unfortunately went bonkers, quickly put on a skullcap and started calling for the destruction of Western society.
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That is a totally discredited( if it were ever really credited) 'theory'. No one buys it now. Also, a tiny little detail- did these supposed Indian agents also attempt to bomb the Air-India/CP air flight over the Pacific Ocean? Was Inderjit Singh Reyat, who fabricated the timer for the bomb that eventually killed two Japanese baggage handlers , an "Indian government agent"? That was an issue never dealt with by the advocates of the Indian agents did it theory. Moreover, wouldn't the Canadian government( and to a much smaller extent, the Japanese government) exert heavy pressure on India to apprehend the alleged operatives who committed the largest mass murder in modern Canadian history?
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My point was that Canada's political establishment are either stunningly naive, or (more likely) dishonestly complicit. Maybe both. Indo-Canadian deaths from terrorism are an inconvenience they'd prefer to ignore or wish away.

Canada's left-leaning NDP have no qualms about electing a smiling sectarianist Khalistani as their leader.

Ruling Liberal Party are so wedded to pappu Trudeau that they'll back him up no matter how matter who he tramples on in pursuit of his vote banks.
Canadian conservatives seem permanently on the back foot.

But at least Indian conservatives are better armed with media tools of our own this time, to expose games in real time.
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On the topic of Kanishka, sharing what I wrote on the last anniversary of the bombing.
Makes the blood boil each and every time one revisits it.
Those ******** must NEVER be allowed to forget this terror attack which was planned and executed from their soil and to rub salt on the wounds, followed up with a bungled up investigation

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So Air India ‘Kanishka’ & Talwinder Singh who played a major role in its bombing are back in news. Canada,this one will haunt you till time’s end ..

Letting out some thoughts and some facts when it came to Western nations not merely looking away at terrorism aimed at India in the 70s, 80s and the 90s, but in cases, actually encouraging it. This state sponsored terror cost us dearly then & costs us dearly even now.

70s – 90s were not very popular years for Govt of India in Western capitals. At best, they looked away when it came to matters that were detrimental to Indian interests and at worst, they actively fomented trouble within Indian borders. Primary reason was that the geopolitical interests of the US and UK were not aligned with Indian ones.

Germination and nurturing of the Khalistani terrorism was but one manifestation of this ill will. Two quick examples:-

1. After the Khalistani terrorists hijacked an Indian aircraft on 24 Aug 1984 to Lahore (5th such incident, btw), the Pakis found out that the hijacking was done with a toy pistol and in order to help them out, gave them a revolver. Then they asked the hijackers to take the plane to Dubai. Over there, the hijackers demanded that they be handed over to US authorities instead of India. However they were tricked by the Indian and UAE security agencies and brought to India. Upon investigation, it was found that the revolver was of German origin. Germany confirmed that that particular piece was part of a consignment delivered to Pak Army. This was promptly shared with the US. Unsurprisingly, the US refused to believe this due to ‘lack of evidence’, despite eyewitness accounts by the hijacked passengers having seen the revolver handed over in Lahore!

2. In second instance, Talwinder Singh Parmar, a known terrorist was arrested in West Germany in 1983 as he travelled by train from Zurich due to an Interpol lock-out notice. CBI was informed by the Germans thru the Interpol who asked for his custody for trial in cases against him in India. Germany asked for details and was info that a CBI team would be flying to Bonn with the same. However, even before the CBI team took off, the Indian consul general in Vancouver messaged that Talwinder Singh had been released and had even addressed a religious congregation in a local Gurudwara wherein he’d threatened violence against India. Upon being asked as to why they released him, the Germans claimed it was due to delay on Indian part, a patently false statement since the Indian authorities had been prompt in their actions. Talwinder Singh would get back to Canada and play a major part in the Kanishka bombing, an act for which the Canadian Govt’s role is still under a cloud.

Ok, now coming to the shameful ‘Kanishka’ episode.
In late 1984, at least two informers reported to authorities on the first abortive plot to bomb Air India Flight 182, which flew out of Montreal’s Mirabel International Airport at that time. In August 1984, the known criminal Gerry Boudreault claimed that Talwinder Parmar showed him a suitcase stuffed with $200,000, payment to plant a bomb. He refused to do so.

Then in September, in an attempt to get his sentence for theft and fraud reduced, Harmail Singh Grewal of Vancouver told the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) of the plot to bomb the flight from Montreal.

What did the Canadians do? They fcuking DISMISSED these two reports pointing to the SAME plot from two UNRELATED sources as UNRELIABLE.
Ultimately, the Kanishka (pictured above) would get blown apart near Ireland, taking 329 souls with it, at the hands of terrorists based out of Canada, with bombs assembled in Canada. 268 of the victims were Canadian citizens.

What followed was an investigation that still continues to this day in some respects, uncovering utter incompetence on part of Canadian authorities at best, and wilful / malicious oversight at worst.

Much has been written about that, so I’ll cover only some basic, glaring lacunae.

As has been mentioned earlier, Parmar was under surveillance since early 1985. Late in the afternoon of June 4, 1985, CSIS surveillance teams followed Parmar’s maroon car as he drove to pick up his friend Inderjit Singh Reyat from his home in Duncan. From Reyat’s home, three men, one of whom has never been identified, drove to a clearing in the woods around the town. CSIS agents Larry Lowe &Lynne Jarrett soon heard a loud blast.

It was the terrorists testing the detonation system for the bombs. The agents reported it as a shotgun blast.
Then happened the most incredible thing in this entire dirty saga .. On 16 Jun 1985, surveillance over Parmar was lifted!

This was the time when preparations for the bombing would’ve been at their peak!

Funny, no?

Esp since this blast was NOT the only sign of trouble.

But it gets even more ‘funnier’.

Apparently, James Bartleman, then Director General of the Intelligence & Security Bureau of the CSIS External Affairs Division, told the Air India Commission that he had seen secret info which “indicated that Flight 182 would be targeted.”

Now intelligence cannot get any more pointed than this. But when he brought this same info to the notice of an RCMP official, Bartleman testified that ‘he was met with a hostile reception’.

Mind you, he was a DG in the CSIS!

And then we are to believe it was mere inter agency turf wars at play!

Sorry, I refuse to believe that. Just as I suspect, the 329 departed souls would refuse too.
In his verdict, Justice Josephson cited “unacceptable negligence” by CSIS when hundreds of wiretaps of the suspects were destroyed. Of the 210 wiretaps that were recorded during the months before and after the bombing, 156 were erased. Amazingly, nay, ‘Funnily’, these tapes continued to be erased even after the terrorists had become the primary suspects in the bombing! Because the original wiretap records were erased, they were inadmissible as evidence in court. In a lame excuse, CSIS claimed the wiretap recordings contained no relevant information, but an RCMP memo states that “There is a strong likelihood that had CSIS retained the tapes between March and August 1985, that a successful prosecution of at least some of principals in both bombings could have been undertaken.”
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sanman wrote:My point was that Canada's political establishment are either stunningly naive, or (more likely) dishonestly complicit. Maybe both. Indo-Canadian deaths from terrorism are an inconvenience they'd prefer to ignore or wish away.

Canada's left-leaning NDP have no qualms about electing a smiling sectarianist Khalistani as their leader.

Ruling Liberal Party are so wedded to pappu Trudeau that they'll back him up no matter how matter who he tramples on in pursuit of his vote banks.
Canadian conservatives seem permanently on the back foot.

But at least Indian conservatives are better armed with media tools of our own this time, to expose games in real time.
Absolutely. It isn't helped( it is actually massively encouraged by) that Sikhs constitute the single largest Indian group in Canada, even though they make up only 2% of the population in India. A lot of them sell their land in Punjab to come to Canada. Then these same and/or their offspring agitate in Canada for a separate homeland, or simply bash India. Encouraged or egged on by the Canadian politicians, sections of the media and academia. The whole phenomenon is just disgusting.

The PLO and the IRA are not allowed on Canadian soil, whereas various pro-Khalistani organisations are. Notice how there is nothing major in the way of violent agitation against the US, UK or Israel. But with India, there is the worst( at the time) terror attack involving an airliner, To say that something rotten is going on, is putting it mildly.
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Yes Kancha, the ba*ta*ds in Canada and the Sikh/Khalistani agitators must never be allowed to forget the worst terrorist attack at the time. Keep raising it over and over again. Repeatedly bring up the competence( or lack thereof) and callousness of the RCMP and ISIS.
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This time however, there are new actors on the Canada terror scene -- the Urban Naxals who have transplanted themselves out of India to the West. These people weren't really present in the West during the previous terror era of the 1980s and 1990s. But today they are. So they can now easily provide cover to anyone as opportunities arise. Also, China now has tentacles in the West that weren't previously there. So the threats have only multiplied.
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https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/khalist ... ns-3893843
India Summons Canada Envoy Over Khalistan Protest, Flags Security Concerns
India has lodged a strong protest over security arrangements outside its diplomatic premises in Canada.
Kadambini Sharma, March 26, 2023

New Delhi: The centre has summoned the Canadian High Commissioner over Khalistan protests outside the Indian missions and consulates over the last few days over.
India has lodged a strong protest over security arrangements outside its diplomatic premises in Canada.
"It is expected that the Canadian Government will take all steps which are required to ensure the safety of our diplomats and security of our diplomatic premises so that they are able to fulfil their normal diplomatic functionsm," read a statement shared by Arindam Bagchi, spokesperson of the foreign ministry
"The Government of India sought an explanation on how such elements were allowed, in the presence of police, to breach the security of our diplomatic Mission and Consulates," the statement said.
Last Sunday, an event in Canada was cancelled due to security concerns after a violent protest by Khalistan supporters.
The event had been organised at the Taj Park Convention Centre in Surrey to honour Sanjay Kumar Verma, the Indian envoy to Canada, while he was on his first visit to the west coast.
An Indian-origin journalist, who was at the event to cover the protest, was also reportedly assaulted by the radicals.
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I again want to post another video from Canada's state broadcaster, the CBC - this is another one that's just come out a few days ago:



So again, another "news report" targeting Hindus -- and yet again, the journalist is of Chinese ethnicity.

There seem to be a spate of these news programs and news articles happening, where the journalist is Chinese, and is taking aim at Hindus specifically.

Just for clarity, this is the Canada thread, and the reporters I'm pointing out are all Canadians who happen to be of Chinese ethnicity. Just like the spokesman for the Khalistan-supporting World Sikh Organization also happens to be of Chinese ethnicity.

You'll tell me I'm imagining things, and that I'm communally prejudiced, but I find it very strange that so many journalists within the CBC (Canada's state broadcaster) who happen to be of Chinese ethnicity are all suddenly putting out critical reports against Hindus in particular.
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Canada is currently being rocked by a scandal over Chinese interference in Canada's elections. Apparently, China's goal was to keep Justin Trudeau's left-wing Liberal party in power, preferably as a fragile parliamentary minority govt.






But these same CBC journalists of Chinese ethnicity warn against racist caricatures against Chinese, even while promoting the same against Hindus:





Furthermore, the spokesman for the separatist World Sikh Organization is also Chinese. I just find these to be a very conspicuously strange set of coincidences.
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Letter done.

Diplomatic representation is a two way street. India very much appreciates that Canada is unable to provide security to Indian missions over there and accordingly would like to withdraw their presence . Canada is meanwhile asked to shut down their missions in Chandigarh and Mumbai. Many thanks. MEA.

P.S. All visa applications for Canadian citizens going forward will be processed in New York.
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Sanman, I don't think you are imagining things. It's only a question of how contrived/planned it is. Way back in 2004-2005, when India's IT and call centre services were just burgeoning, there was a Chinese origin journalist at the CBC covering business news. She made a very cursory comment about the IT industry in India, and then projected that such services would move to China and the Philippines. Before even appreciating India's work and accomplishments, they have to make some sweeping prediction. Sheesh.
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Lisa, is this done? The Indian consulates in Canada( Toronto, Vancouver) are going to close?
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Varoonji,

No no, just my suggestion.
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Whoa, thanks for alerting me, I was about to send that information to a whole bunch of people, and at least one other forum, treating it as a done deal

It would be a great idea to control immigration to Canada, and of course terrorist infiltration back into India. There is an absolutely ridiculous situation in Canada where Sikhs make up the single largest, possibly the actual majority, community of ethnic Indians in Canada. Despite being only 2% of the population in India itself. These people desperately sell their land to come to Canada, then cause trouble in their adopted land.
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Varoon Shekhar wrote: There is an absolutely ridiculous situation in Canada where Sikhs make up the single largest, possibly the actual majority, community of ethnic Indians in Canada.
Thus my suggestion of closing the Chandigarh mission.
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Don't forget that Canada was offering cold weather training to Chinese troops around Galean time. IIRC some of their military officers protested and Turdeau quietly withdrew the thing. I believe they trained with PLA in the past as well.
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Trudeau and his ruling Liberal Party always cater to Khalistani Jagmeet Singh and his opposition NDP, because Jagmeet very reliably gives outside support to Trudeau's govt in the parliament.

With Trudeau facing allegations that his party benefited from China's election meddling interference, Jagmeet has been very supportive to Trudeau in not calling for another election.

Listen to comments from former Prime Minister Stephen Harper of the Conservative party:



Like sepoys during the Raj, the Khalistanis have learned to make themselves useful to the ruling power, in order to derive benefits for themselves.
In the process, these assorted crooks have colluded to game Canada's political system.
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SGPC has a long history of ingratiating Sikhs to the hukmat.
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Sanjaykumar ji, you were waxing eloquent about the “idealistic” PM yet turned against his “blackface”. Hakim Saab, yeh kyaa hogaya aap ko?!
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Just wrote a longish comment. It disappeared.

Anyway it wasn’t me who would consider anything about politicians idealistic.
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Vayutuvan wrote:Sanjaykumar ji, you were waxing eloquent about the “idealistic” PM yet turned against his “blackface”. Hakim Saab, yeh kyaa hogaya aap ko?!
Justin Trudeau is another pappu - inexperienced guy who is over his head. He only got his job because he had a famous last name, just like pappu.

State broadcaster CBC is very loyal to Trudeau, having become leftist bastion aligned with the ruling left-wing ideology. They spend a lot of their time attacking the conservative opposition.
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Immigration fuels Canada's largest population growth of over 1 million
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65047436

3% population growth of Canada thanks to migration policy of Truedau ...I would like to know demographic break up. in next 2-3 decades Canada population will double growing at this rate.
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Canada's Liberals want to hang onto power at all costs, and they want to spend a lot of money to buy votes. They don't know how to financially sustain this, so they've decided to import more people. But the people they import will also end up costing them, so they'll have to import more, and more, and more. This is a Ponzi Scheme. Anytime Canadian politicians are desperate to buy votes, then their go-to strategy is immigration. Canada has a lot of land area, but everyone is crowded around a few major cities, not far from the US border. Not enough new houses are being built, and housing prices are skyrocketing. So the leftist immigration strategy is unsustainable.
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IndraD wrote:3% population growth of Canada thanks to migration policy of Truedau ...I would like to know demographic break up. in next 2-3 decades Canada population will double growing at this rate.
No, Canada is a leaky bucket. Many Canadians will end up in the US - whether for study, work or retirement, with many of these moves being permanent.
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Vancouver resident Inderdeep Singh Ghosal had been promoting Khalistan through his postings on Twitter. He had also attended protests outside the Indian embassy.

He has now been arrested for stabbing to death a father who asked Ghosal to stop vaping near his child

https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/w ... o-surfaces



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^^^^ Very sad news and disturbing footage. As the wise Hillary said, "It's like that old story - you can't keep snakes in your backyard and expect them only to bite your neighbours..." Canada has been importing immigrants by the busloads and along with them the dregs of society. We can expect an anti immigrant/Indian backlack to go with this, the irony will be lost. It is high time MEA announced an advisory against visiting Canada.
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I am deeply sorry for this barbarism. I can only apologise to all Canadians, even though I have less in common with this Sikh than I have with a blonde Canadian.

Perhaps it is time to rethink the issue of religious symbols.
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sanman wrote:
Justin Trudeau is another pappu - inexperienced guy who is over his head. He only got his job because he had a famous last name, just like pappu.
Sir ji, pappu or not, he won his elections twice to become the PM. We will only hurt our cause in underestimating him.
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Jay wrote:Sir ji, pappu or not, he won his elections twice to become the PM. We will only hurt our cause in underestimating him.
Next you'll tell me that all the cunning political games by Congress are authored by RaGa. Ridiculous - he's just a dumb mascot, while the real brains lie elsewhere.

Trudeau is just a figurehead, having zero prior experience in politics. The real political chanakyas lie elsewhere. The real harm is in underestimating them, more than underestimating him.

Jagmeet is now the loyal sepoy to Trudeau, instead of being a functioning opposition leader. In exchange, Jagmeet gets to promote Khalistan, at our expense. This arrangement works out well for them, so neither of them are complaining. We've given them no reason to think twice.
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sanman wrote:
Next you'll tell me that all the cunning political games by Congress are authored by RaGa. Ridiculous - he's just a dumb mascot, while the real brains lie elsewhere.

Trudeau is just a figurehead, having zero prior experience in politics. The real political chanakyas lie elsewhere. The real harm is in underestimating them, more than underestimating him.

Jagmeet is now the loyal sepoy to Trudeau, instead of being a functioning opposition leader. In exchange, Jagmeet gets to promote Khalistan, at our expense. This arrangement works out well for them, so neither of them are complaining. We've given them no reason to think twice.
Yeah, right, he is a moron and that is why he became president of Canada, TWICE!
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Jay wrote:Yeah, right, he is a moron and that is why he became president of Canada, TWICE!
He certainly is a moron. Look at his resume -- it's thin like Pappu's -- he never did anything before becoming PM. He had no prior track record of achievements. How can he be any great chanakya without any achievements under his belt? The chanakyas are others who wield the real power in the party, and who selected him as their figurehead. This is just dynasty politics. Also, the media in Canada and USA are very biased, leaning heavily toward the Left. Immigration has also made Canada lean toward the Left, no matter how unproductive that may be.

Trudeau is another pappu, and his pappu raj is unsustainable.
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sanman wrote: He certainly is a moron. Look at his resume -- it's thin like Pappu's -- Trudeau is another pappu, and his pappu raj is unsustainable.
I don't know what achievement you consider to be worthy of your praise, but I find it bizzare that a 2 term winner in politics is a "pappu" in your book. Let's agree to disagree.

Even if he is a Pappu, India should treat him as a pappu and totally ignore him? Wonder how far that will get our interests going in Canada with this attitude.
How can he be any great chanakya without any achievements under his belt?
Who the heck cares if he's chanakya or not. If he is not a chanayka, then it should be that much more easier for us to influence him. Right?
The chanakyas are others who wield the real power in the party
And who are they?
This is just dynasty politics.
Irrelevant, again. Do you want to do business only with someone who won a Noble prize? Remember how that went for India?
Also, the media in Canada and USA are very biased, leaning heavily toward the Left.
Nope. There is left media and right media. You not recognizing this is not a good sign that you have not read the situation.
Immigration has also made Canada lean toward the Left, no matter how unproductive that may be.
Every country has a different version of left or righ leaning politics. What makes you say Canada is Left? quote some examples?
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Jay wrote:
I don't know what achievement you consider to be worthy of your praise, but I find it bizzare that a 2 term winner in politics is a "pappu" in your book. Let's agree to disagree.
Big deal - Sonia's govt was also there for 2 terms.

I don't know why you have a crush on this guy. Stephen Harper was far more accomplished than him. Justin only got his job because of his daddy's name. If he'd been someone else's son, he'd never have reached this position.
Even if he is a Pappu, India should treat him as a pappu and totally ignore him? Wonder how far that will get our interests going in Canada with this attitude.
When his govt was going out of its way to hobknob with Khalistanis, then why would we turn a blind eye to that?
Who the heck cares if he's chanakya or not. If he is not a chanayka, then it should be that much more easier for us to influence him. Right?
No, he's a left-leaning idiot.
And who are they?
Look at crooks like Krystia Freeland.
Irrelevant, again. Do you want to do business only with someone who won a Noble prize? Remember how that went for India?
Nobel Prize winner was also an unqualified guy who was awarded Nobel without even having done anything, Same scam, different capital.

Nope. There is left media and right media. You not recognizing this is not a good sign that you have not read the situation.
You're just saying that without knowing the reality. You can't even name any right-media in Canada, because there are none.

Every country has a different version of left or right leaning politics. What makes you say Canada is Left? quote some examples?
Look at Canada's attempt crack down on personal freedoms, including freedom to protest. Look at how Justin Trudeau immediately smeared protesters as Nazis and wife-beaters, before freezing their bank accounts. Look at Justin's embrace of Woke Left politics. It's ridiculous.
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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

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sanman wrote: Big deal - Sonia's govt was also there for 2 terms.
I don't know why you have a crush on this guy. Stephen Harper was far more accomplished than him. Justin only got his job because of his daddy's name. If he'd been someone else's son, he'd never have reached this position
Yes, and foreign govt.s made deals with Sonia and got a lot. They did not sit idly and refused to deal with her citing her "aukaad". I think you also have a weird definition on crush. Just because we have to treat him as a head of state does not mean we have crush on him. This is a bizzare logic.
When his govt was going out of its way to hobknob with Khalistanis, then why would we turn a blind eye to that?
Yes, you deal with them and influence them to not to entertain these anti-indian activities. Do you think not doing this and taking a "maun vrat", will get us anything?
No, he's a left-leaning idiot.
Good. Let him be the idiot and lets take advantage of the idiot.
Look at crooks like Krystia Freeland.
Now you are going to object India dealing with this deputy PM because she's a crook?
You're just saying that without knowing the reality. You can't even name any right-media in Canada, because there are none.
In your comment you said US along with Canada does not have right wing media. Fox, Brietbart, WSJ, and a host of other news sources are popular with Canadian viewers and not to mention a ton other provisional news agencies. Best example on the top of my head if National Post and the Globe and Mail.
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At last someone sensible speaking the truth on Khalistani movement from Canada

https://m.timesofindia.com/home/sunday- ... 997541.cms

This journalist Terry Milewski needs to be thanked and supported.
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It’s high time that India starts saying that Canada is an institutional and state sponsorer of Khalistan and hence terrorism. This needs to be tom tommed in all international fora and start sanctioning Canadian entities, much as the US state department does.
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Re: India-Canada, Mexico and South America: News and Discussion

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Cyrano wrote:At last someone sensible speaking the truth on Khalistani movement from Canada

https://m.timesofindia.com/home/sunday- ... 997541.cms

This journalist Terry Milewski needs to be thanked and supported.

Terry Milewski is a known friend of India. He also gave the interview which Jagmeet infamously flubbed:



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