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Those cops don't have clue what Khalistan is.

They thought it was meant to be an ethnic festival and we're flying the flag for good community relations.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cwcyLvoMps

Guys, by now everyone has heard of the CRA tax scam in Canada. The fraudsters were traced to India. Pretty serious swindle! But look at the comments to the CBC story. Some nasty stuff. Many of them are Paks and Chinese, but the majority seem to be Caucasian or of other ethnicities. I suppose the haters will use any excuse to hit out at India. Still, the sheer number of vicious remarks are upsetting. Should we expect this sort of stuff on a regular basis?
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Varoon Shekhar wrote:Should we expect this sort of stuff on a regular basis?
You mean some criminal will commit some crime online? You bet.

No offence, but what's the point of asking such rhetorical questions and hyperventilating over it? I don't know what this scam is about (hasn't made it to the news cycle here afaik), so can't speak to what some news portal comments say. Even if I did, I am sure these comments are at the same daily mail level of "they took aid from us and built statues!!" So, waste of time.

Came to this thread thinking some genuine news has come up. Sigh.
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^
There wasn't a single mention of aid to India, among the hundreds of displayed comments. There were remarks like "India=scam", "Nuke them", "Use the money( from the fraud) to build toilets", and so on. The CRA( Canadian Revenue Agency) tax scam was big news in Canada. In the US, it was scamsters posing as IRS officers, demanding back taxes that were supposedly owed. I think it's fair to pose the question as to whether a major scam like this will negatively affect India.
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John Ivison: Long chilly, relations between Canada and India are now frigid under Liberals
The failure to upgrade an underperforming $8-billion-a-year trading relationship is a missed opportunity for the Trudeau government


One passage of the new report on Justin Trudeau’s trip to India deals with the public testimony given by Daniel Jean, the former national security adviser, before the parliamentary oversight committee on national security last April.

It reads: “As the NSIA (Jean) stated during his testimony: ‘***’.”

The words of the statement that the now-retired Jean gave to the committee were redacted — along with most of the other interesting bits of the report.

Redacting testimony that is already in the public domain would seem somewhat overzealous for a new committee intent on persuading Canadians about its integrity.

The liberal use of the black pen became the focus of question period in the House of Commons Tuesday.

Conservative MP Peter Kent suggested the heavy redaction was aimed at preventing Liberal embarrassment over the diplomatic incident that ensued when it emerged that Jaspal Atwal, a man once convicted of the attempted murder of an Indian politician, was invited to official Canadian events in Mumbai and New Delhi.

“The prime minister should get off his asterisk and release the findings,” said Kent.

Charlie Angus, the New Democrat MP, said Trudeau had put the interests of the Liberal Party ahead of the people of Canada by covering up the information.

Trudeau chided Angus for the use of “sanctimonious rhetoric,” a subject on which he has some proficiency. “Neither I, nor my office, requested or directed any redaction,” he said.

The truth is, it was not a distinguished debut by the committee. The report was redacted after it went to the Prime Minister’s Office on the advice of officials, according to Trudeau.

But it was sent back to the committee and its members, including senators, Conservatives and a New Democrat, apparently agreed to live with the contents as they appeared.

In the end, it hardly matters — the discerning reader can comprehend what’s going on, even when all six findings on the subject of “foreign interference” have been blacked out.

The report details how Jean attempted to counter a narrative in India that the Trudeau government is soft on Sikh separatism.

Back in April 2017, the chief minister of Punjab refused to meet defence minister Harjit Sajjan, after accusing him and four other Canadian ministers of being “Khalistanis.” (Khalistan is the would-be Sikh homeland in the Indian state of Punjab.)

Jean quarterbacked efforts to address Indian concerns about Canada’s role in the perceived rise of extremism.

He travelled to India to meet his counterpart and there were also delegations by the RCMP and CSIS, emphasizing Canada’s support for a strong and united India.

Despite those efforts, a rash of stories appeared in the Indian press alleging Canadian complicity in Sikh extremism. Trudeau did not help his case by attending a Sikh event in Toronto the previous year, which featured Khalistan flags and posters of Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, a Sikh extremist leader killed by Indian troops at the Golden Temple in Amritsar in 1984.

After Atwal’s presence at the event in Mumbai was revealed, Jean briefed Canadian media, including the National Post, suggesting elements in the Indian intelligence service might be motivated to embarrass Trudeau for being soft on Sikh terrorism. He said Atwal met with Indian diplomats from the consulate in Vancouver and Atwal’s own social media account showed he had visited the Indian External Affairs department the previous year.

Jean told the committee that he saw the briefings as “an important line of defence against foreign interference.”

The committee concluded in its report that the most compelling rationale for the almost unprecedented spectacle of the national security adviser briefing the press was that Jean was “deeply invested” in countering what he viewed as an orchestrated attempt to “shine a spotlight” on Atwal’s invitation, in order to embarrass the Canadian government.

That he had the support of the prime minister was apparent in comments Trudeau made in the House of Commons last March, when he said security officials say things to Canadians “because they know them to be true.”

The redacted report did not say the Indians had been playing games to undermine the Trudeau government — it did not have to. The inference is there.

Meanwhile, the Indians are miffed at what they see as pandering by the Canadian prime minister toward Sikh extremism, summed up in the headline of an article in Outlook magazine last year: “Khalistan 2: Made in Canada.”

The mood will scarcely have been improved by a story in the National Post last month that was circulated in the Indian media. It quoted an analysis by the Canadian Border Services Agency that revealed a 246 per cent increase in refugee claims made by Indian Sikhs, after gaining access to Canada using temporary resident visas issued by the government.

The CBSA report cited tensions between the Indian government and the country’s Sikh population over renewed support for separatism in Punjab. “Contemporary support has re-emerged around proposals for an unofficial referendum of the global Sikh diaspora in 2020 on the question of independence … As government pushback against Sikh community continues, fear of arbitrary arrest and abuse by authorities will likely prompt more Indian Sikhs to leave the country,” it said.

The upshot of such undiplomatic frankness is that Indian-Canadian relations, already chilly, have turned frigid.

The Canada-India relationship could have gone to the next level but we’ve bungled it

Ujjal Dosanjh

The Hindustan Times, a large English language newspaper, reported Tuesday a proposed visit by environment minister Catherine McKenna to India is off and that attempts to arrange a bilateral meeting between global affairs minister Chrystia Freeland and her Indian counterpart Sushma Swaraj have come to nothing. McKenna’s office said they received an invitation last July to visit India but declined because of “domestic commitments” and other international travel already lined up.

An Indian source told the paper relations were at a “standstill” and predicted it would take a change of government in New Delhi or Ottawa to put the relationship back on track. (Both countries have parliamentary elections next year).

Given the Trudeau government’s stated goal of diversifying its trading partners, the failure to upgrade an underperforming $8-billion-a-year trading relationship is a missed opportunity.

Ujjal Dosanjh, the former B.C. premier and Liberal cabinet minister, is a Sikh but no friend of the Khalistani movement that nearly killed him when he was assaulted with a metal bar in 1985. (He maintains his assailant was the same Jaspal Atwal who travelled to India. Atwal was charged with the attack but acquitted.)

Dosanjh believes Canada is paying the price for not convincing the Indian government that its Sikh ministers do not have Khalistani sympathies.

“We’ve turned a blind eye to a festering movement aimed at dismembering a friendly country,” he said. “It’s disappointing that the Canada-India relationship could have gone to the next level but we’ve bungled it.”


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Probably the Indian government, as a sop to overseas Punjabis, and also as part of the peace and healing process in Punjab, took many people off the banned, no-entry list. Atwal was one of those. Given the seriousness of their crimes, it's arguable whether they should have. But highly unlikely to be a conspiracy.

Dosanjh is a real voice of rationality and sanity among the ethnic Punjabi/Sikh community in Canada. Of course the Khalistani lunatics will hate him, and desire to silence him. May his tribe multiply!
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Why Canada Will Bear the Brunt of the American War on Huawei
The arrest of Huawei’s chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, by Canadian authorities in Vancouver, on December 12 excited quite a furor in China. The United States, under an extradition treaty with Canada, ordered the arrest on the charge that Huawei, under Meng, had circumvented sanctions on Iran using a shell company in Hong Kong. The row is unfolding in the context of an acrimonious trade dispute between China and the United States, and intensifying strategic competition between the two. Nevertheless, Canada is likely to be the largest loser in this particular episode.
This raises the question of why Canada — not the United States — is the main target and brings us to the second factor: the prevailing tensions between the United States and China. China’s ability to retaliate against the United States is likely reined in by its desire to reach a resolution to the ongoing trade dispute between the two. It has become increasingly apparent that China’s economy is at a tenuous juncture in its development and that shocks potentially threaten the achievement of key goals.
Under the prevailing conditions, Canada can only hope that the international community will join it in declaring an unwavering commitment to the rule of law and tie China’s conduct in this instance to its reputation in the long-run, thus urging restraint. Such support, however, has been conspicuously absent, and Canada should prepare itself for the impending punishment.
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^^Not sure why Canada even took on such a risky move , knowing that China will come down with full force? Its not that currents govts in Canada and US are on great terms too for personal assurances to work

Canada did a similar thing during the Tehran hostage crisis by bearing the brunt of Iranian anger for helping smuggle the American diplomats out of Iran ( Argo is based on that)
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^^that's the nature of being the bait, you have to go by the wishes of hunter. Who lives in the end is the question. What else does canada have to offer to world apart from natural resources, immigration, sermons and a flashy pm (although that is not exclusive to them, french, US and russian heads have their own fanbase)
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I think relations with Canada will be frosty till Trudeau sees the light of all terrorism is bad and not ignore terrorism directed to India.
Since this won't happen expect the chill till Trudeau is voted out of office.
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Mexican economic wall :) Is it US response to China's Tariffs / to reduce dependency on China?

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mexican-p ... tion-to-us
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The Tax Incentive Decree for the Northern Border Region, which Lopez Obrador announced Saturday, would create a free zone that would stretch from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Coast and be more than 15 miles wide, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported.

Inside the zone, income taxes would be reduced by a third and Value Added Taxes on imported goods would be slashed in half, the minimum wage would increase 100 percent, and fuel prices would equal U.S. prices, the report said.
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https://theglobalamericans.org/2018/12/ ... ashington/
Persaud’s defection set in motion far more than fresh elections and a likely change in government. It is potentially the first shot in a destabilizing fight between Guyana’s ethnically Indian and African communities to control the spoils from a tidal wave of oil money as production from the offshore Liza field begins in 2020. To exacerbate the situation, the collapsing socialist regime of neighboring Venezuela continues to assert claims on part of that oil and a third of Guyana’s national territory.
Leveraging the greater size of the Indo-Guyanese population relative to the Afro-Guyanese supporters of the PNC, (40% Indo-Guyanese versus 29% Afro-Guyanese according to the 2012 census), the PPP, under Bharat Jagdeo, held onto power without interruption from 1992 through 2015. During this time, the Indo-Guyanese came to have a particularly strong presence in the Guyanese bureaucracy, complementing their longstanding dominance of the business community, while the Guyanese Defense Force (GDF) and police have been dominated by Afro-Guyanese since their inception.
While the amount of oil is modest by global standards, once at target production levels (probably in 2025), Guyana will rival Mexico and Venezuela as an oil producing nation. The transformative potential is significant in light of the country’s small population of 750,000. The additional income from the salaries of oil workers, construction, contracts to support the development and operation of the fields, and the ripple effect on the Guyanese economy will be enormous. Some estimate that the country’s modest $3.6 billion GDP could triple in five years. Guyana’s capital Georgetown is already awash in new commercial real estate projects and other ventures in mere anticipation of that money. Complementing such benefits, royalties and other payments passed by Exxon to the Guyanese government could double the national budget.
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Guyana, Surinam and French-occupied Guyana has significant but sparsely populated land available. In Guyana and Surinam Indians form a significant portion of the population. About 75% of Hindus have remained Hindu over there. However, due to poor economic conditions many have been migrating to north AMerica. Oil wealth will develop the economy and will require immigrants. This is an excellent opportunity for Indians to settle the land. I have long argued for consulates of Guyana and Surinam in Eastern UP and BH where the majority Bhojpuri population comes from. This will facilitate cultural exchanges and inform people about the possibility of migration to these countries.
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I have pointed out previously one type of dog whistle racism.

Burnaby South Liberal candidate quits over her racial comments about NDP leader

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.4980537

The news article features a close up of this civilised Chinawoman, emphasising her alien physiognomy. Very racist of the media.

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Here you go.....
ArjunPandit wrote:Is there any thread for news/discussions on happenings of latam? Things seem to be getting interesting venezuela. Armoured vechicles ramming into civvies. Military loyal to President (local) and not US.
it helps to look at more than first page of forum.
8)
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haha...i did search for three pages. but i was using latam...
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https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/ ... ice-a65487
For Moscow, a deal of equals on Venezuela where Russia helps the U.S. diffuse the crisis by engineering a constitutional transition, should involve an equally significant concession by the U.S. (on a par with JFK-Khrushchev deal to remove nuclear missiles from Cuba and Turkey) to pressure Kiev into fully implementing the Minsk-2 agreements that would truncate Ukraine’s sovereignty and allow Moscow to retain some degree of control over Kiev’s security policies.

Putin specifically mentioned that during his call with Trump. Withdrawing Russian military support for Maduro should also be matched by the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance to Ukraine.
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Hinduphobia in Canadian Universities – are some promoting Hindu Holocaust?
https://www.pgurus.com/hinduphobia-in-c ... holocaust/
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darshan wrote:Hinduphobia in Canadian Universities – are some promoting Hindu Holocaust?
https://www.pgurus.com/hinduphobia-in-c ... holocaust/
canada is UK 2.0. They still havent gotten the message after Turdeau's diplomatic disaster
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Camden’s top cop reveals he has been victim of hate crime
http://camdennewjournal.com/article/cam ... hate-crime

Borough Commander Raj Kohli told his wife to ‘hide pictures of me’

CAMDEN’S most senior police officer says his own family have been the victims of hate crime three times in the last year.

Borough commander Chief Superintendent Raj Kohli told a committee meeting at the Town Hall that he was frustrated because he believed this form of crime was underreported.

He said: “I think things are happening, but people just aren’t telling us.”
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https://theprint.in/diplomacy/modi-scre ... ow/271566/
Modi ‘screwed’ Trudeau during 2018 India trip — and it’s become a poll issue in Canada now
A new book quotes Canadian PM Justin Trudeau’s former principal secretary accusing the Modi govt of 'throwing racks under our tires to help Conservatives'.
SRIJAN SHUKLA, 3 August, 2019.
New Delhi: A year after Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s disastrous trip to India, Prime Minister Narendra Modi has emerged as an electoral issue in Canada. At the heart of the row, ahead of elections in October, is a forthcoming book that quotes Trudeau’s former principal secretary Gerald Butts accusing Modi of “screwing” the Canadian Prime Minister during his 2018 trip to India and helping his opposition, the Conservatives, in the country. Trudeau’s trip last year to India made news for all the wrong reasons. Miffed at the Canadian PM’s support for ‘Sikh separatists’, Modi had refused to meet Trudeau until he made amends by meeting Punjab Chief Minister Amarinder Singh. Trudeau has also faced criticism for dressing in ‘gimmicky’ ethnic Indian wear throughout his stay in the country and was slammed for the presence of attempted murder-accused and suspected Khalistani separatist Jaspal Atwal in official functions. An excerpt from the book, Trudeau: The Education of a Prime Minister by National Post political columnist John Ivison, reveals the political implication that the trip had for the Canadian Prime Minister. It quotes Butts accusing Modi’s government of “throwing racks under our tires to help Conservatives”. “We walked into a buzzsaw — (Narendra) Modi and his government were out to screw us and were throwing tacks under our tires to help Canadian conservatives, who did a good job of embarrassing us,” the book quotes Butts, who was until recently Trudeau’s advisor and resigned in the wake of the SNC-Lavalin scandal, as saying.
Butts also tells Ivison that Modi’s treatment of Trudeau was not the “core issue”. Instead, Trudeau and his family wearing traditional Indian clothes during the eight-day trip, seemed gimmicky and “seemed to resonate badly with the (Canadian) voters”. “The picture will overwhelm words,” Butts is quoted as saying in the book.
Modi as a Canadian electoral issue
It is a rare occasion when India becomes an electoral issue outside of South Asia.
Conservative leader Andrew Sheer, who is expected to face Trudeau in the October election critiqued Trudeau about the recent revelations.
“There Trudeau goes again, blaming others for his own mistakes and poor judgment. This time it’s @NarendraModi. Trudeau’s failed leadership is no one’s fault but his own,” Sheer tweeted.
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https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... -hijab-ban
FATAH: Why some Canadian Muslims celebrated the Quebec hijab ban
On Sunday night after a marathon session, Quebec legislators voted 73-35 to bring into law Premier François Legault’s Bill 21 that bans some public servants from wearing religious symbols.

Legault’s Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) government, which also had the backing of the opposition Parti Québécois, brought closure to a 10-year struggle since Quebec’s Bouchard-Taylor Commission recommended that all public officials who embody the authority and the neutrality of the state and its institutions be prohibited from wearing any visible religious symbols such as the hijab, turbans, yarmulkes and the crucifix.
Well ... Looks like this going to impact our Sikh brothers. Anyone from Canada has any clarity from the ground.
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Quebec was always xenophobic without any encouragement.
I recall a rip in 1979 with constant harangues on TV from some Quebec leader.
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RCMP intelligence Director General charged with espionage involving foreign powers.

https://globalnews.ca/news/5899146/seni ... d-charged/

The RCMP has arrested and charged a director general with the force responsible for handling intelligence in a major national security case.

Cameron Ortis is facing seven charges dating back to 2015 under both the Criminal Code and the Security of Information Act.

Global News has learned the RCMP believe Ortis to have stolen “large quantities of information, which could compromise an untold number of investigations.”

Other sources referred to the case as “serious spy s–t.”

A statement from the RCMP confirmed those charges “stem from activities alleged to have occurred during his tenure as an RCMP employee.”

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was asked by reporters on the Liberal campaign on Friday whether he could reassure Canadians that the national interest had not been compromised and initially walked away from reporters. He later briefly addressed the matter, saying he was “of course made aware” of the case but could not comment.

Sources with knowledge of national security investigations described Ortis as former RCMP Comm. Bob Paulson’s most elite adviser on issues related to national security and sensitive investigations. They added he was likely the only civilian to ever achieve the position of director general of intelligence.

That role gave him control over RCMP counter-intelligence operations.

Ortis is described as an Ottawa intellectual and an academic that was seen as arrogant by some in Canada’s national security establishment.

Global News’ early source information indicates that Ortis’ expertise in computers and cyberspace, the level of sensitive high-tech information he would have access to as a long-time government advisor, as well as his connections to East Asia and China, are some of the areas that could have concerned this multi-pronged national security information.

As a civilian member of the RCMP’s strategic intelligence unit, Ortis had a lynchpin role that gave him unparalleled access to operation intelligence, according to a source.

At times, he worked extensively with FINTRAC, and once focused on Somalia, one of the countries that has attracted Canadian extremists to fight in the terrorist group Al-Shabab, the source said.

The source described him as professional and competent.

Ortis is charged with:
  • Section 14(1) of the Security of Information Act
  • Section 22(1)(b) of the Security of Information Act
  • Section 22(1)(e) of the Security of Information Act
  • Section 122 of the Criminal Code
  • Section 342.1(1) of the Criminal Code
Those charges relate specifically with unauthorized leaking of sensitive operational information and breach of trust, as well as unauthorized use of a computer.

The other counts refer to “obtaining, retaining or gaining access” to information and possessing a device “useful for concealing the content of information or surreptitiously communicating, obtaining or retaining information.”

Two of the charges are based on a section of the Security of Information Act that relates to preparatory acts towards “communications to a foreign entity.”

He faces up to 33 years imprisonment if convicted.

Ortis appeared briefly in the Ottawa courthouse on Friday where the Crown announced it was in fact laying seven charges against him.

It’s not clear at this time what the additional charges are.

John MacFarlane with the Public Prosecution Service of Canada alleged in court that the Crown suspected Ortis of having “obtained, stored, processed sensitive information we believe with the intent to communicate it to people that he shouldn’t be communicating it to.”

The court adjourned and is set to resume on Sept. 20 at 9:30 AM after Ortis has had time to obtain a lawyer.

Potentially ‘one of the worst cases of espionage’: expert

Sources tell Global News the investigation was extensive and that Ortis was arrested on Thursday in Ottawa.

He holds a Ph.D from the University of British Columbia focusing on cybersecurity in East Asia and is listed on his LinkedIn profile as speaking Mandarin and having worked as an advisor to the Government of Canada for 12 years.

Global News reached out to CSIS asking if the spy agency had been involved in the investigation but was referred to the RCMP.

Heather Bradley, director of communications for the Speaker’s office with the House of Commons, also referred matters to the RCMP when asked whether any further assessments of administration infrastructure security or risks was ongoing.

Stephanie Carvin, a national security expert and assistant professor at Carleton University, said
“If this person succeeded, this could potentially be one of the worst cases of espionage that we’ve ever seen in Canada,” she said.

“If this was a four-year investigation, I would be surprised if this person had only tried once and failed once. The concern is that this may have been going on for some time but we don’t see that reflected in the charges yet.”


The arrest is the latest in Canada stemming from what it is sometimes called the insider threat.In 2011, a navy intelligence officer, Jeffrey Delisle, was caught selling secrets to the Russian embassy in Ottawa. He was sentenced to 20 years but has already been paroled.The RCMP arrested Quin Quentin Huang in 2013 for allegedly trying to pass secrets about Canadian patrol ships to the Chinese government.

He worked at Lloyd’s Register Canada, which was subcontracted by Irving Shipbuilding to work on the design phase of Canada’s Arctic patrol vessels.

The case has not yet gone to trial.
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What is it about brown face, black face, pulling down the corners of the eyes that some white people find so witty? Oh well whatever floats your boat.
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The Inuit agree on a common writing system
The 47,000 Inuit who live in Canada’s Arctic speak five dialects of Inuktut and use nine writing systems. The dialects are similar enough that an Inuk from one group can puzzle out what a speaker from another is saying. The writing systems, invented by Christian missionaries starting in the 18th century, are bigger barriers to comprehension. Three use syllabics—characters to represent syllables—rather than the roman alphabet. Both systems can be supplemented with diacritical marks that modify pronunciation and meaning. Communication is difficult and translating textbooks and government documents expensive.

Partly because of these difficulties, Inuktut, a group of languages spoken by 39,000 Inuit, is giving ground to English. In Nunavut, the northernmost Canadian territory, where most Inuit live, not all schools offer classes in Inuktut even though the territory has mandated bilingual education by 2020. Most phones and keyboards need extra software to handle syllabics, so young Inuit text and email mainly in English, says Crystal Martin-Lapenskie of the National Inuit Youth Council.
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I hear Canadian polls are due soon and Harper might come back to power.
Trudeau is in trouble and the Khalistani is now the leader.
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Not Harper Ramana garu but Scheer

Jagmeet Singh’s strong showing could make Andrew Scheer the prime minister
In a roundabout way, Conservative Andrew Scheer benefited most from Monday’s leaders’ debate.

He did so not because he performed particularly well but because New Democrat Jagmeet Singh did.

We shall see whether Singh’s near miraculous political resurrection is enough to salvage any seats for the struggling NDP. It may be too late for that.

But in some ridings, particularly in Ontario, a partial NDP recovery could split the so-called progressive vote just enough to let Scheer’s Conservatives skate up the middle and win what is shaping up to be an extremely close election.
If Singh is lucky, most voters will tune out of the detailed debate over Bill 21. If Singh is very lucky, the damage to the NDP predicted by many analysts will be limited to Quebec (where the party is expected to be decimated) and New Democrats will hang onto, or even increase, the number of seats they hold in Ontario and British Columbia.

If, however, Singh is just a little bit lucky and manages to merely split the non-Conservative vote in key ridings, Andrew Scheer could become prime minister.
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Ok. Thanks.
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Looking at Justin Trudeau Black face and then doing a Monkey act, the guy is definitely a racist but a hero for leftists.
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It’s just a lifestyle choice.
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So who are the other people in the Trudeau photo?
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Looks like he was trying to look like an Arab, or more likely an Indian. Notice the turban on his head. Some in the picture look like they were students at Point Grey academy. He's getting a tad grabby with one of them...the school was upto 12th grade, which likely makes some of the students minors.
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Arab. He was masquerading as Al Ladin of the Arabian Nights. The grabbing is part of re-enactment of some of the juicy parts of those stories, perhaps. He might have read Richard Burton's ten-volume English translation or the older French xlation by Antoine Galland. The latter version
Wikipedia wrote: ... included stories that were not in the original Arabic manuscript. "Aladdin's Lamp", and "Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves" (as well as several other lesser-known tales) appeared first in Galland's translation and cannot be found in any of the original manuscripts.
Question is how racist were the translations by the French and British. We know that as late as early 1900s 1870s, Jules Verne had strange ideas about the Subcontinent as described in his book "Around the World in Eighty Days".
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Arabian nights is not really racist in a meaningful sense.

Verne’s captain Nemo of the Nautilus was supposedly a misanthropic Indian. The brits would never have countenanced an Indian protagonist.
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sanjaykumar wrote:Arabian nights is not really racist in a meaningful sense.

Verne’s captain Nemo of the Nautilus was supposedly a misanthropic Indian. The brits would never have countenanced an Indian protagonist.
original Arabian nights of course is not racist. But the French translation? your guess is as good as mine. well, strike that; if you know and can read French, your guess may be better than mine.

as for Verne, let us analyze Phileas Fogg rescuing Indian woman from sati. his valet
Passepartout enters a temple wth his footwear. he gets chased - Verne makes light of it by making it comic - out of the premises.

sorry my friend, but no go. Verne was an out and out racist. yet, I have to say I like his books. what to do wonlee, :oops: :oops: :oops:

only Indians are misanthropic, hain ji?!!!
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That was the cultural context which may be puzzling to us at this late date.


There is much that does not make much racialist sense. Blackface to me is perplexing. What does it mean? How does it generate mirth in a dim witted white?


As bemusing to me is the concept of the black bull cuckold. That one is truly bizarre. Why would it be arousing, for a white to be sexually aroused by coitus by the wife with a male regarded as degraded and ugly??
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I am reading Dracula. British had some strange ideas about Romanians.
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That one is truly bizarre
Except that the dude is the PM not one of the the girls. One must check what is done. Trust but verify.
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