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Received via email - Must read

To the beach: Assad prepares for last stand in home town
Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv Published: 16 December 2012
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Assad’s iron grip on the cities of Damascus and Aleppo appears to be weakening (Nick Cornish)

AS POWER continues to drain from his regime, Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad is drawing up contingency plans to retreat from Damascus and make a last stand in a stronghold on the shores of the Mediterranean.

Assad, a member of the Alawi sect in a country where Sunni Muslims form a large majority, is preparing for a “worst case”, in which he may be forced to abandon the capital and “fight to his last bullet” in a breakaway Alawite homeland, according to a Russian source.

The Alawites, whose religion has links to Shi’ite Islam, are regarded as heretics by the majority Sunni population. Although just 12% of the population, they hold most of the key jobs in the regime.

The source, who has met Assad several times since the uprising began in March 2011, said the president’s army could fight on for months with the help of inhospitable mountain terrain and a sympathetic local population.

“The Americans know that the Alawites are well trained and well equipped and that they have no choice but to fight to the bitter end,” he said. He insisted that Russia would not send ground troops to support either side in the conflict.

According to intelligence sources in the Middle East, at least seven largely Alawite commando battalions and at least one ballistic missile battalion were redeployed earlier this month into the Alawite territory. One of the commando battalions and the missile battalion were equipped with chemical munitions, the sources said.

During 21 months of fighting the Alawite regime has ethnically cleansed several Sunni villages, including Tremesh, Rastan and Houla, which lie on the eastern edge of the Alawite stronghold.

Assad’s forces have mined roads along the border and moved elite special forces observers to monitor the main roads into the area.

In the past few days Assad’s iron grip on the cities of Damascus and Aleppo, two long-time bastions of support, has appeared to be weakening. Yesterday warplanes bombed insurgents east of Damascus and government forces pounded a town to the southwest in a campaign to dislodge rebels around the capital that has so far appeared fruitless.

Recent reports suggest that thousands of Alawites are streaming into the sanctuary, which runs along the Mediterranean coast between Lebanon and Turkey.

An unconfirmed report suggested Assad may already have moved members of his family to the town of Qardaha, the family’s ancestral home at the heart of the territory, where they were being guarded by loyal Alawite special forces.

Last week Russia, one of Assad’s closest allies, appeared to acknowledge that he was losing the war against an increasingly well co-ordinated insurgency. For the first time, Moscow said it was making contingency plans to remove its citizens from the country.

Mikhail Bogdanov, special Middle East envoy to President Vladimir Putin, was quoted last week as saying that the rebels could defeat Assad’s forces and that Syria faced a bloody future with many more dead, suggesting that the overthrow of Assad would not mean the end of the increasingly sectarian civil war.

“If you accept this as the price of toppling the president, what can we do?” he asked. “Of course we consider this to be totally unacceptable.”

On Friday the Russian foreign ministry moved to distance itself from Bogdanov’s remarks. “In this situation, we are not talking about the fate of leaders; we are talking about the fate of people,” it said.

The Russians, however, remain Assad’s most important backers. According to intelligence sources in the region, a Russian command-and-control operations centre has been established to liaise with senior Syrian officers in Tartus, the winter headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet.

“The Russians are operating a massive sigint [signals intelligence] operation providing backup to Syria’s air force and military intelligence,” said the source.

The Russian source is adamant that Assad will never give up his hold on the stronghold. He said Assad had told him: “Mubarak may have gone but Egypt remains. But if I go, none of Syria remains.”

The source, who has also been involved in talks with US officials, said he was disappointed by last week’s American decision to recognise a coalition of rebel forces as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people. “The situation is very grave and if it continues this way Syria will turn into another Somalia,” he said.

Nadim Shehadi, a Middle East expert at the think tank Chatham House, remains sceptical that an Alawite state could survive. “The regime wouldn’t receive recognition as an enclave — not from the Arab world or Europe or the West. They could only hope for recognition from North Korea, Iran and possibly [Hugo] Chavez in Venezuela,” he said.
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What will be the fate of the Kurds under FSA, what is the population % of Chirtians and non- sunnis in Syria, as I see them being massacared by the FSA related entities.
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It is good if before he is gone, Assad massacres a lot of his opponents so they can massacre even more when their turn comes.... west will protect Christians, no issue. Israel will have one less frontier to worry about

It seems Iran understands this
. On Tuesday, Iran’s defense minister, Brig. Gen. Ahmad Vahidi, said Israel was the winner in the Syrian conflict because it was witnessing the destruction of an enemy — the Assad government — while the Syrian people were being “manipulated” by “terrorists.”
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shyamd wrote:Received via email - Must read

To the beach: Assad prepares for last stand in home town


Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv Published: 16 December 2012
Assad’s iron grip on the cities of Damascus and Aleppo appears to be weakening (Nick Cornish)

AS POWER continues to drain from his regime, Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad is drawing up contingency plans to retreat from Damascus and make a last stand in a stronghold on the shores of the Mediterranean.

Assad, a member of the Alawi sect in a country where Sunni Muslims form a large majority, is preparing for a “worst case”, in which he may be forced to abandon the capital and “fight to his last bullet” in a breakaway Alawite homeland, according to a Russian source.

The Alawites, whose religion has links to Shi’ite Islam, are regarded as heretics by the majority Sunni population. Although just 12% of the population, they hold most of the key jobs in the regime.

The source, who has met Assad several times since the uprising began in March 2011, said the president’s army could fight on for months with the help of inhospitable mountain terrain and a sympathetic local population.

“The Americans know that the Alawites are well trained and well equipped and that they have no choice but to fight to the bitter end,” he said. He insisted that Russia would not send ground troops to support either side in the conflict.

According to intelligence sources in the Middle East, at least seven largely Alawite commando battalions and at least one ballistic missile battalion were redeployed earlier this month into the Alawite territory. One of the commando battalions and the missile battalion were equipped with chemical munitions, the sources said.

During 21 months of fighting the Alawite regime has ethnically cleansed several Sunni villages, including Tremesh, Rastan and Houla, which lie on the eastern edge of the Alawite stronghold.

Assad’s forces have mined roads along the border and moved elite special forces observers to monitor the main roads into the area.

In the past few days Assad’s iron grip on the cities of Damascus and Aleppo, two long-time bastions of support, has appeared to be weakening. Yesterday warplanes bombed insurgents east of Damascus and government forces pounded a town to the southwest in a campaign to dislodge rebels around the capital that has so far appeared fruitless.

Recent reports suggest that thousands of Alawites are streaming into the sanctuary, which runs along the Mediterranean coast between Lebanon and Turkey.

An unconfirmed report suggested Assad may already have moved members of his family to the town of Qardaha, the family’s ancestral home at the heart of the territory, where they were being guarded by loyal Alawite special forces.


Last week Russia, one of Assad’s closest allies, appeared to acknowledge that he was losing the war against an increasingly well co-ordinated insurgency. For the first time, Moscow said it was making contingency plans to remove its citizens from the country.

Mikhail Bogdanov, special Middle East envoy to President Vladimir Putin, was quoted last week as saying that the rebels could defeat Assad’s forces and that Syria faced a bloody future with many more dead, suggesting that the overthrow of Assad would not mean the end of the increasingly sectarian civil war.

“If you accept this as the price of toppling the president, what can we do?” he asked. “Of course we consider this to be totally unacceptable.”

On Friday the Russian foreign ministry moved to distance itself from Bogdanov’s remarks. “In this situation, we are not talking about the fate of leaders; we are talking about the fate of people,” it said.

The Russians, however, remain Assad’s most important backers. According to intelligence sources in the region, a Russian command-and-control operations centre has been established to liaise with senior Syrian officers in Tartus, the winter headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet.

“The Russians are operating a massive sigint [signals intelligence] operation providing backup to Syria’s air force and military intelligence,” said the source.

The Russian source is adamant that Assad will never give up his hold on the stronghold. He said Assad had told him: “Mubarak may have gone but Egypt remains. But if I go, none of Syria remains.”

The source, who has also been involved in talks with US officials, said he was disappointed by last week’s American decision to recognise a coalition of rebel forces as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people. “The situation is very grave and if it continues this way Syria will turn into another Somalia,” he said.

Nadim Shehadi, a Middle East expert at the think tank Chatham House, remains sceptical that an Alawite state could survive. “The regime wouldn’t receive recognition as an enclave — not from the Arab world or Europe or the West. They could only hope for recognition from North Korea, Iran and possibly [Hugo] Chavez in Venezuela,” he said.
This move was foretold on BRF 16 months ago and often spoken of many times later.
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All should read the Book "O Jerusalem" by Dominique Lapierre and Larry Collins to understand the history of West Asia.

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1. "Until the Arabs produced more mature societies,economies,cultures & polities (all different aspects of the human systems) they would
would be no match for their new jewish neighbours. They better keep out of war with them & not throw their population into conflict"
2. "Arabs are forever splitting into little groups. No one would take orders from anyone else. When things go wrong, somebody or the order
was labelled as traitors !"
3. "Arabs are traditionally uncontrollably emotional & excitable people"
4. " When you are under the constant menace of hysterical riots by your own people , what options did the jews really have ?"
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Published on Dec 18, 2012
By James Brooke
Lebanese Take Sides in Syrian Civil War: Voice of America
Sheikh Walid Taboush is the imam of Tabbaneh. He believes that his enemies up the hill collaborate with Syrian intelligence. They are from the same Alawite sect as the al-Assad clan that rules Syria. The imam says Lebanon’s Alawite minority must break its ties with Syria’s rulers now, before the regime collapses.

“We have heard from France, America and Russia that is possible that Syria will be divided, that Bashar al Assad will go to Tartus and Latakia and form the Alawi state in Syria. This will have a negative effect on the whole Arab region, not only on Tripoli," he said.

In a rare interview, Zoumar, the Alawite militia commander, says his Sunni neighbors radicalized in recent years:

“They got Islamic features, with beards and mustaches, and dressed like Bin Ladin. They became fanatic and started to denounce others in the mosques and on TV. We were used to them, we were brothers living together," he said.

Showing a photo of his three-year-old old son with an AK-47 rifle, Zoumar says hefights to protect Alawites against ethnic cleansing by Sunnis.
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Fantastic...so inner pakistaniyat is becoming a standard feature of the Ummah...
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Just when we read the above article we posted - now this news:
Syrian rebels cut off Bashar al-Assad’s escape route
An eerie silence hangs over what was once a busy highway that cuts through the mountains and makes for Latakia city.

A rebel looks out onto the frontline Photo: WARREN ALLOTT
By Ruth Sherlock, Latakia province8:30PM GMT 17 Dec 2012
Abu Yassin, resident in one of the dozens of Sunni villages in Jebel Akrad drove his vehicle, the only one on the road, passed the carcases of burnt out tanks, abandoned government checkpoints and row upon row of empty villages.
In the distance war was raging: government helicopters circled over front line towns, dropping barrels filled with TNT and lethal metal debris on buildings below with deafening effect. Rebel fighters shot back with anti-aircraft guns hidden amid narrow buildings or in nearby forests that cover the mountainsides.
It is here; in this mountainous Mediterranean coastline of Syria's Latakia province that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad may well hope to make his last stand.
For centuries, this was his and his people's homeland, the verdant terrain belonging to his minority Alawite sect. Now it is this enclave comprising the coastal cities of Latakia and Tartous and mountains to the east that the many in the President's his sect see as their and his last chance of making a breakaway Alawite state to protect them against the Sunni majority rebellion.
But, travelling across the terrain this week The Daily Telegraph discovered that the rebels have already won control of much of his land, making the vision of a safe haven state – or a at leats a defendable one – more pipe dream than project.

Slipping across the border from Turkey insurgents have waged an, largely unreported, war. Inching forward, village by village and town by town the rebels now hold the two large mountain ranges of Jebel Akrad and Jebel Turkman that make up most of the north of the province.
As they moved forward, Alawite families have hastily grabbed their possession and fled.

"We have six Alawite villages under our control now, but there are no Alawites left here. They believe that if Bashar al-Assad goes, they will all be killed so they all fled to areas the regime controls," said Abu Yassin.
Those Alawite villages visited by the Daily Telegraph now stand abandoned and desolate. Many showed signs there had been a hasty exit. Front doors were left swinging open on their hinges, personal possessions – shoes, clothes, books were trailed on the floor. Bullet holes and shelling damage dented outer walls and many shops looked as they though they had been set on fire.
Most of the Alawite families fled to Latakia, Tartous or to the nearby 'Alawite Mountain,' the place that is also Bashar al-Assad's home of al-Qardaha. From across Syria too, Alawite families who fear they will become the victims of sectarian attacks – whether they support the government or not – have begun building homes in these high retreats.
But even these are now within the rebel's sights. Lying less than two miles away the 'Alawite Mountain' is clearly visible from the front line town of Salma. Government helicopters and jets bombard the town day and night, and near continuous shelling has reduced most of the buildings to rubble and potholed the roads. But they have been unable to stop the rebel advance, and soon, it seems there may be nowhere for the President to go.
"We are planning to take the Alawite Mountain and move on Latakia. If we allow the Alawite state to be a fact on the ground then all the minority groups will say 'we want our state' and the country will be torn apart," said Abu Taher, a rebel commander in Salma.
Moderate fighters like Abu Taher, the leader of a rebel brigade in Salma is adamant that only those Alawites "with blood on their hands" will be punished 'for their crimes'. And that should any of the hardline sectarian minded jihadist fighters that have infiltrated some of the rebel groups try to launch attacks on Alawite civilians they 'will be defeated [by local rebels]'.
But even among local Sunni opposition there are frightened whispers that with a rebel victory in these mountains and then in Latakia city below them, it would be difficult to prevent a violent spate of revenge killings.
Sunnis and Alawites have long lived peacefully as neighbours in this area, but the war is tearing this fabric of society apart, and is laying dangerous sectarian foundations.

Women and children make bread in a a makeshift bakery in the village of Obin (Warren Allott)
An elderly couple, both over 80, Mr and Mrs Ahmed Barakat refused to leave when the rebels came to their rural Alawite village of Ain al-Ashara. Led by local man Sheikh Ayman Othman, rebels had promised villagers they wouldn't be harmed. But when later Sheikh Othman was killed in battle, a second more sectarian minded militia stormed the village and the villager's lives became a living nightmare:
"They stole everything: They took all the cars and broke into all of our homes. After that residents said they thought they would be killed so they fled to Latakia," said Mr Barakat.
As he spoke fat tears rolled down Mrs Barakat's cheeks: "Three months ago they came and arrested my son. He had not done anything wrong.
"A man came back and demanded ransom money of 1.5 million Syrian pounds [approx £13,000]. They gave me three days to get the money, or else, they said, they would kill my son. I begged and borrowed from my friends and family. When he came again, at night, he took the money but they haven't returned our son."

Mr and Mrs Ahmed Barakat (Warren Allott)
Religious and community leaders in Jabal Akrad have together launched an education campaign for the rebels on how to peacefully control Alawite areas: "We are trying to stop revenge killings," said Sheikh Mohammed Raheh.
Sheikh Khaled Kamal was the first religious leader in Latakia city to speak out against the regime when anti-government demonstrations began in the city last year. Now he is based in the rebel held mountain areas, working to keep the revolution from descending into sectarian chaos:
"I am sure there will be massacres of Alawites and bad revenge killings when we reach Latakia. The Syrian regime made us enemies over the past two years.
"I and the other Sheikhs are trying to stop this. But we are not sure that we will succeed".
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Shyamd ji, what if that is planted news to prevent Assad from escaping? If one says that the place is inhospitable and the routes are closed, one is discouraged to set out in the first place. But that move by the rebels is to be expected.
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He sure has helicopters? Moreover, I am sure he has sources better than reading newspapers about whether the approach is safe or not..
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Suppiah ji, but now a doubt and suspicion are planted in his mind. Whether the news is true or not, now he can't take it for granted his safety lies in hi escape to Alawite areas.
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Possibility of psy-ops always there in war time, for that matter any time...I would have thought they would let him venture out in false safety and then trap him...he has been frustrating western designs/gameplan for years and together with his father, for decades in ME...I am sure they would love to see him hang from some pole.
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Nightwatch comments:

http://www.kforcegov.com/Services/IS/Ni ... 00239.aspx
Syria: Comment: Today Patrick Cockburn, of the Guardian, reported he spent his eighth day in Damascus, which included a 160 kms side trip to Homs. He provided his observations that Damascus carries on. The sounds of fighting are occasionally heard, as after an air strike, but city life continues in Homs as well as in Damascus. His conclusion is the Asad regime is nowhere near collapse at this time.

Separately, news services reported that the Vice President of Syria flew to Aleppo on 18 December, the scene of so much recent fighting. He delivered relief supplies.


Cockburn is anti-war and anti- any power that wages it. Thus his report is biased. But his theme resonates with NightWatch that most English language reporting on Syria is distorted and slanted to support the Western, Qatari and Saudi narrative that the Syrian opposition is winning. That is not as clear to Cockburn or to NightWatch as the news services report.

The opposition has made some gains, but the details are so sparse as to defeat accurate and reasonably precise measurement.

Cockburn's point is that the English language press is cheer leading for an outcome whose consequences are almost unimaginable slaughter. The Western press has vilified the government and idolized the rebels, some of whom are prone to behead anyone who disagrees with them.

Despite Cockburn's reporting, which is careful and detailed, the end game is nevertheless a fight for Damascus. That fight has drawn closer, but Cockburn provides reassurance that the end is not imminent. The proof is that he could hire a vehicle to drive to Homs and that the Vice President can fly to Aleppo.

His report is a reminder to be on guard against the strong anti-government bias in Western media. Most of what is reported is at best partially accurate. Asad is not the bad guy as western governments depict and the Syrian opposition is far from the good guys. There are no good guys in this fight.

Russian naval activity is the best recent indicator that the end is in sight. Not immediately, but in the foreseeable future, early 2013.

Russia-Syria: A Russian navy task group of five ships has departed the Baltic for Tartus, Syria. The task group includes a destroyer, a tugboat, a tanker and two large amphibious ships.

The Defense Ministry said Tuesday that the ships will rotate with those that have been in the area since November. The ministry did not say whether the navy ships are intended for an evacuation.

Comment: The Russians are taking prudent precautions.

Tunisia: Angry protesters hurled rocks at the Tunisian president and parliamentary speaker in Sidi Bouzid, the cradle of the revolution that begot the Arab Spring in December 2010.

The incident began after a speech by President Moncef Marzouki in Sidi Bouzid, where celebrations were taking place to mark the anniversary of the revolution. When the president took to the podium on Monday, many in the crowd of around 5,000 started shouting "Get out! Get out!" - one of the rallying cries of the revolution that toppled the regime of Zine El Abedine Ben Ali

Marzouki promised economic progress within six months to the people of Sidi Bouzid, where poverty and unemployment were key factors behind the uprising that began there on 17 December 17, 2010, after Muhammad Bouazizi a street vendor set himself on fire in protest of police harassment.

Mustapha Ben Jaafar, the parliamentary speaker, was about to address the crowd when the violence began. Security forces swiftly evacuated the two men to the regional government headquarters.

Comment: The Marzouki government has no resources for alleviating unemployment and poverty in the next six months. His promises are phony.

Thus after two years, the Arab Spring remains a failure in the country in which it originated. It was always and only about jobs and poverty, not political change. The Tunisians got political change-new political faces -- but no jobs and no prosperity.
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Torture confirmed,by the UK! When will the Americans come clean?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2012/dec/ ... re-victims

MoD pays out millions to Iraqi torture victims

Lawyers and human rights groups say 400 settlements show 'systemic' abuse
Ian Cobain
The Guardian, Thursday 20 December 2012
The Ministry of Defence has paid out £14m in compensation and costs to hundreds of Iraqis who complained that they were illegally detained and tortured by British forces during the five-year occupation of the south-east of the country.

Hundreds more claims are in the pipeline as Iraqis become aware that they are able to bring proceedings against the UK authorities in the London courts.

The MoD says it is investigating every allegation of abuse that has been made, adding that the majority of British servicemen and women deployed to Iraq conducted themselves "with the highest standards of integrity".

However, human rights groups and lawyers representing former prisoners say that the abuse was systemic, with military interrogators and guards responsible for the mistreatment acting in accordance with both their training in the UK and orders issued in Iraq.

The campaigners are calling for a public inquiry into the UK's detention and interrogation practices following the 2003 invasion. An inquiry would be a development the MoD would be eager to avoid.

Payments totalling £8.3m have been made to 162 Iraqis this year. There were payments to 17 individuals last year and 26 in the three years before that.

The average payment to the 205 people who have made successful claims has been almost £70,000, including costs. The MoD says it is negotiating payments concerning a further 196 individuals.

Lawyers representing former prisoners of the British military say that more than 700 further individuals are likely to make claims next year.

Most of those compensated were male civilians who said they had been beaten, deprived of sleep and threatened before being interrogated by British servicemen and women who had detained them on suspicion of involvement in the violent insurgency against the occupation. Others said that they suffered sexual humiliation and were forced into stress positions for prolonged periods.

Many of the complaints arise out of the actions of a shadowy military intelligence unit called the Joint Forward Interrogation Team (Jfit) which operated an interrogation centre throughout the five-year occupation. Officials of the International Committee of the Red Cross complained about the mistreatment of detainees at Jfit not long after it was first established.

Despite this, the interrogators shot hundreds of video films in which they captured themselves threatening and abusing men who can be seen to be bruised, disoriented, complaining of starvation and sleep deprivation and, in some cases, too exhausted to stand unaided.

A former soldier who served as a guard at Jfit told the Guardian that he and others were ordered to take hold of blindfolded prisoners by their thumbs in between interrogation sessions then drag them around assault courses where they could not be filmed.

He also confirmed that the prisoners were often beaten during these runs, and that they would then be returned for interrogation in front of a video camera.

The interrogators were drawn from all three branches of the forces and included a large number of reservists.

During proceedings brought before the high court in London, lawyers representing the former Jfit prisoners suggested the interrogation centre could be regarded as "Britain's Abu Ghraib".

Questioned about the compensation payments, an MoD spokesperson said: "Over 120,000 British troops have served in Iraq and the vast majority have conducted themselves with the highest standards of integrity and professionalism. All allegations of abuse will always be investigated thoroughly. We will compensate victims of abuse where it is right to do so and seek to ensure that those responsible are brought to justice."

Lutz Oette, legal counsel at Redress, a London-based NGO which helps torture survivors get justice, said: "The payments provide a long overdue measure of redress. However, for the victims compensation without truth and accountability is a heavy price to pay. For justice to be done there is a need for a full independent inquiry to establish what happened and who is responsible.

"Looking at the number of claimants and scale of payments, there clearly seems to be a systemic problem. It is high time for this to be fully accounted for, first and foremost for the victims but also the British public, which has an obvious interest to know the truth behind the figures."

Next month, the high court will hear a judicial review of the MoD's refusal to hold a public inquiry into the abuses. Human rights groups and lawyers for the former prisoners say the UK government is obliged to hold an inquiry to meet its obligations under the European convention on human rights – and particularly under article three of the convention, which protects individuals from torture.

After a hearing, the high court highlighted matters supporting the allegations of systemic abuse. These included:

• The same techniques being used at the same places for the same purpose: to assist interrogation.

• The facilities being under the command of an officer.

• Military doctors examining each prisoner at various stages in their detention.

• Investigations by the Royal Military police that were concluded without anyone being held to account.

If the court does order a public inquiry, responsibility for any systemic abuse is likely to be traced up the military chain of command and beyond.

The MoD claims no public inquiry is necessary as it has instituted an investigation body, the Iraq Historical Allegations Team (Ihat), which is examining the abuse allegations as well as a number of prisoner deaths in British military custody.

After Ihat investigators examined the videos shot at Jfit, three interrogators were referred to the Service Prosecuting Authority with a recommendation that war crimes charges be considered.

Prosecutors eventually decided that the matters were insufficiently serious for war crimes charges and that disciplinary charges were unlikely to lead to convictions. They concluded that one soldier had committed offences, but that this was "in accordance with the training that they had been given"; it would be inappropriate to charge him.

Other inquiries have led Ihat to recommend that the MoD makes compensation payments to former prisoners.

But lawyers for the former prisoners believe Ihat is insufficiently independent as it answers to MoD officials. One investigator quit Ihat alleging that the organisation's inquiry is not genuine, but more a face-saving exercise.
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venug wrote:Shyamd ji, what if that is planted news to prevent Assad from escaping? If one says that the place is inhospitable and the routes are closed, one is discouraged to set out in the first place. But that move by the rebels is to be expected.
we are in what is called 'fog of war' - no one can say for certain what the true picture is. naturally there is a lot of psyops involved.

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US and Russia back bid to find end to Syrian war
The United States and Russia have backed a final bid to find a political solution to Syria's civil war, as Moscow said it was prepared to accept President Bashar al-Assad's departure.

In talks with EU leaders in Brussels, Russia's President Vladimir Putin made clear Moscow's unequivocal support for Assad had shifted Photo: EPA
By Alex Spillius, Damien McElroy8:37PM GMT 21 Dec 2012
Lakhdar Brahimi, the United nations special envoy to Syria, is reportedly planning to fly from Cairo to Damascus to present a deal to the Syrian president.
The plan would create a transitional government made up of regime and opposition figures, according to diplomatic sources.
It would require Mr Assad to hand over power quickly and he would be encouraged to accept an orderly exile. He has said he wants to keep his post, which his family has held for four decades, until 2014.

Russian officials told the Daily Telegraph that Moscow was prepared to ease the Syrian president out of power.
"Assad doesn't have a future, he knows this," a senior Russian official said. "But he is not a fool. He will not just go voluntarily. All sides must sit down and negotiate a way out of this. That means we talk to Assad but those who back the rebels must put pressure on them."


Russia will continue to oppose any action against Syria at the United Nations. But in talks with EU leaders in Brussels yesterday, President Vladimir Putin made clear Moscow's unequivocal support for Assad had shifted.
"We aren't a defender of the current Syrian leadership. We don't want the chaos that we see in other countries in the region to happen after any changes that may occur in Syria. Everyone wants an end to the violence and bloodshed," he said.
Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the Nato secretary general, yesterday said Mr Assad led a "desperate regime approaching collapse," after the second spate of Scud missile attacks.
The Russians have been encouraged to co-operate after becoming convinced that Western powers were not going to intervene militarily in Syria, and by their trust of Mr Brahimi, who mediated talks with the Americans.
Yesterday Mr Brahimi held meetings in Cairo with members of the Syrian Opposition Council, which has been recognised by the world as the legitimate representative of the Syrian people and asked it for a wish list of future government figures.
The greatest obstacle to Mr Brahimi's plan, apart from Mr Assad, is the conviction of the rebels that after nearly two years of bloody struggle, victory is close at hand and the time for talking has long passed.
The rebels are slowly closing in on the capital Damascus and yesterday fired warning shots at a Syrian Airways flight preparing to take off from Aleppo airport in the first direct attack on a civilian flight, which have been used to transport weapons and Iranian fighters helping Assad's forces.
A prominent British-based Syrian backer of the opposition said that while conditions are ripe for talks, only a clear pledge from Mr Assad to step down would entice the rebels.
"If he is prepared to go, the rebels will feel some kind of euphoria that could pull them into talks. After all they are not commanders for the most part but bakers, doctors and teachers, who want this to end."
However he said that a strong undercurrent for revenge against the regime would be difficult to overcome.
"They say 'we have lost family, so Assad and his people have to pay a price for doing this'," he said. "If the rebels' priority is a push for Damascus he will lose badly. Already he only controls the equivalent of Mayfair and Belgravia."
Wont work probably
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Putin 'not that preoccupied' with fate of Syria's Assad


What Putin possibly actually said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... ssad-syria
Ian Black
The Guardian, Friday 21 December 2012
Vladimir Putin said in a press conference that Moscow's only aim was to avert perpetual civil war in Syria.

Vladimir Putin has signalled that he is not concerned about the fate of President Bashar al-Assad, insisting that Russia wants only stability in Syria. But he gave no sign of a policy shift that would help galvanise international action to help end the country's deepening crisis.

"We are not that preoccupied with the fate of Assad's regime," the Russian president told a press conference. "We understand what's going on there and that his family has been in power for 40 years. Without a doubt, change is demanded. We're worried about something else – what happens next. We don't simply want for today's opposition, having come to power, to start fighting with the current authorities, who then become the opposition, and this continues for ever."
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British MPs have written to William Hague to express concern about possible UK military action in Syria and to seek information on the legal basis for it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012 ... ary-option
The Commons foreign affairs committee (FAC) has also asked the foreign secretary to consult parliament before providing any military support to the Syrian opposition, warning that the circumstances are different from the Nato intervention in Libya last year.

Richard Ottaway, the FAC chairman, told Hague: "Grave concerns have been expressed by some members … about the value, legitimacy, and legality of western intervention in Syria." The internal situation in Syria was complex and the international community divided, with Russia strongly opposed to western intervention. The background and circumstances were very different to those present before the 2011 coalition intervention in Libya, which had the backing of a UN resolution.
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Bji, The remaking of WANA really began with the Algerian Civil War and has not stopped.
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ramana ji,
some of them have begun to realize they are losing the game. Inner circles are panicking. But outwardly, the bonding financially with the usual suspects prevents them from opening their mouths. Maybe BR should take an initiave in forming a task group to do focused study on the phenomenon. Each member can focus on a single aspect.
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No Easy Route if Assad Opts to Go, or to Stay, in Syria
By ANNE BARNARD and HWAIDA SAAD
BEIRUT, Lebanon — President Bashar al-Assad of Syria sits in his mountaintop palace as the tide of war licks at the cliffs below.

Explosions bloom over the Damascus suburbs. His country is plunging deeper into chaos. The United Nations’ top envoy for the Syrian crisis, Lakhdar Brahimi, met with Mr. Assad in the palace on Monday in an urgent effort to resolve the nearly two-year-old conflict.

How Mr. Assad might respond to Mr. Brahimi’s entreaty depends on his psychology, shaped by a strong sense of mission inherited from his iron-fisted father and predecessor, Hafez al-Assad; his closest advisers, whom supporters describe as a hard-line politburo of his father’s gray-haired security men; and Mr. Assad’s assessment, known only to himself, about what awaits him if he stays — victory, or death at the hands of his people.

From his hilltop, Mr. Assad can gaze toward several possible futures.

East of the palace lies the airport and a possible dash to exile, a route that some say Mr. Assad’s mother and wife may have already taken. But the way is blocked, not just by bands of rebels, but by a belief that supporters say Mr. Assad shares with his advisers that fleeing would betray both his country and his father’s legacy.

He can stay in Damascus and cling to — even die for — his father’s aspirations, to impose a secular Syrian order and act as a pan-Arab leader on a regional and global stage.

Or he can head north to the coastal mountain heartland of his minority Alawite sect, ceding the rest of the country to the uprising led by the Sunni Muslim majority. That would mean a dramatic comedown: reverting to the smaller stature of his grandfather, a tribal leader of a marginalized minority concerned mainly with its own survival.

Mr. Brahimi was closemouthed about the details of his meeting, but has warned in recent weeks that without a political solution, Syria faces the collapse of the state and years of civil war that could dwarf the destruction already caused by the conflict that has taken more than 40,000 lives.

A Damascus-based diplomat said Monday that Mr. Assad, despite official denials, is “totally aware” that he must leave and was “looking for a way out,” though the timetable is unclear.

“More importantly,” said the diplomat, who is currently outside of Syria but whose responsibilities include the country, “powerful people in the upper circle of the ruling elite in Damascus are feeling that an exit must be found.”

Yet others close to Mr. Assad and his circle say any retreat would clash with his deep-seated sense of himself, and with the wishes of increasingly empowered security officials, whom one friend of the president’s has come to see as “hotheads.”

Mr. Assad believes he is “defending his country, his people, and his regime and himself” against Islamic extremism and Western interference, said Joseph Abu Fadel, a Lebanese political analyst who supports Mr. Assad and met with government officials last week in Damascus.


Analysts in Russia, one of Syria’s staunchest allies, say that as rebels try to encircle Damascus and cut off escape routes through Hama province to the coast, the mood in the palace is one of panic, evinced by erratic use of weapons: Scud missiles better used against an army than an insurgency, naval mines dropped from the air instead of laid at sea.

But even if Mr. Assad wanted to flee, it is unclear if the top generals would let him out alive, Russian analysts say, since they believe that if they lay down arms they — and their disproportionately Alawite families — will die in vengeance killings, and need him to rally troops.

“If he can fly out of Damascus,” Semyon A. Bagdasarov, a Middle East expert in Moscow, said — at this, he laughed dryly — “there is also the understanding of responsibility before the people. A person who has betrayed several million of those closest to him.”

Many Syrians still share Mr. Assad’s belief that he is protecting the Syrian state, which helps explain how he has held on this long. At a lavish lunch hosted by a Lebanese politician in Beirut in September, prominent Syrian backers of Mr. Assad — Alawites, Sunnis and Christians — spoke of the president, over copious glasses of Johnnie Walker scotch, as the bulwark of a multicultural, modern Syria.

But one friend of Mr. Assad, stepping out of earshot of the others to speak frankly, said the president’s advisers are “hotheads” who tell him, “ ‘You are weak, you must be strong,’ ” adding, “They are advising him to strike more, with the planes, any way that you can think of.”

“They speak of the rebels like dogs, terrorists, Islamists, Wahhabis,” the friend said, using a term for adherents to a puritanical form of Islam. “This is why he will keep going to the end.”

The friend added that even though Mr. Assad sometimes speaks of dialogue, he mainly wants to be a hero fending off a foreign attack. “He is thinking of victory — only victory.”


Such a crisis is the last thing that was expected for the young Bashar al-Assad. He was the stalky, shy second brother with the receding chin, dragged from a quiet life as a London ophthalmologist after the death in 1994 of his swaggering older brother, Basil al-Assad, who crashed his sports car while speeding toward the airport — along the very road that is now engulfed in fighting.

Mr. Assad’s father, Hafez, held power from 1970 to 2000, raising a second-tier clan from the oppressed Alawite minority to power and wealth. But critics say the Assads used four decades in power not to promote meaningful ethnic and religious integration, but to cement Alawite rule with a secular face.

After the uprising began as a peaceful protest movement in March 2011, Mr. Assad rejected calls for deep reform — from his people, from Turkish officials who spent years cultivating him, even from militant groups he had long sponsored, Hamas and Hezbollah, which, according to Hamas, offered to arrange talks with the rebels.

Instead, Mr. Assad took his father’s path. To put down an Islamist revolt in the 1980s, Hafez al-Assad bulldozed entire neighborhoods and killed at least 10,000 people. The son now presides over a crackdown-turned-civil war that has killed four times that many, and counting.

In a government that has become even more secretive, it is impossible to know exactly how Mr. Assad makes his decisions. Some people say he wanted to reform but his father’s generals and intelligence officials, along with his mother, convinced him that reforms would bring their downfall.

“There are two Bashar al-Assads,” said Jürgen Todenhöfer, a German journalist who interviewed him in July. One is a quiet man “who doesn’t like his job” and wants a way out, he said; the other wants to show his family and the world, “I’m not a softy.”

Others say that Mr. Assad’s reformist impulses were always meant only to bring access to the luxuries and approval of the West.

The Assads were raised by their father and their uncles — aggressive men — to believe “they were demigods and Syria was their playground,” said Rana Kabbani, the daughter of a prominent diplomat who knew them growing up.

Turkish officials say that in frequent talks during the revolt’s first months, Mr. Assad listened calmly to their criticisms, took personal responsibility for the government’s actions and promised to seek resolution.

“Either he is a professional liar or he can’t deliver on what he promises,” said a senior Turkish official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

Now, Mr. Assad, 47, faces a set of unpalatable choices. Fleeing to become an Alawite militia leader is likely hard to imagine for the president, who grew up in Damascus, reached out to and married into the Sunni elite, and was even mocked in his ancestral village for his Damascus accent, said Joshua Landis, an Oklahoma University professor who studies Syria and Alawites.

Mr. Assad was long believed to take advice from his mother; his brother Maher, who heads the army’s feared Fourth Division; his brother-in-law Asef Shawkat; and his cousins, the Makhloufs.

But his mother is believed to have fled Syria in recent weeks. Mr. Shawkat, the deputy defense minister, was killed in a bombing in July. The Makhloufs are believed to be spiriting money out of the country. Maher has been reported to have lost a leg in the bombing, but still to be commanding troops.

Turkish, Russian, Syrian and Lebanese analysts agree: Mr. Assad’s main advisers are now his father’s hard-liners and the leaders of the shabiha militias that have carried out attacks on government opponents.

If there ever existed moderates in the government who might cajole Mr. Assad to hand power to a successor who could preserve the Syrian state, that option now appears increasingly remote.

“So much blood has been shed, and it’s impossible to do this,” Mr. Bagdasarov said.

An Alawite businessman in the coastal region who said he knew Mr. Assad’s circle said the one person who might persuade him to leave is his wife, Asma, but she has taken little role in the crisis. She and their children have either left, or been prevented from leaving by Maher, or have insisted on staying — depending on the latest rumor from an edgy Damascus.

Reporting was contributed by Kareem Fahim and David D. Kirkpatrick from Beirut, Ellen Barry from Moscow, Sebnem Arsu from Istanbul, Rick Gladstone from New York, and an employee of The New York Times from Tartus, Syria.
Interesting article:
In Ravaged Syria, Beach Town May Be Loyalists’ Last Resort
By an EMPLOYEE of THE NEW YORK TIMES in SYRIA and NEIL MacFARQUHAR
TARTUS, Syria — Loyalists who support the government of President Bashar al-Assad are flocking to the Mediterranean port of Tartus, creating an overflowing boomtown far removed from the tangled, scorched rubble that now mars most Syrian cities.

There are no shellings or air raids to interrupt the daily calm. Families pack the cafes lining the town’s seaside corniche, usually abandoned in December to the salty winter winds. The real estate market is brisk. A small Russian naval base provides at least the impression that salvation, if needed, is near.

Many of the new residents are members of the Alawite minority, the same Shiite Muslim sect to which Mr. Assad belongs. The latest influx is fleeing from Damascus, people who have decided that summer villas, however chilly, are preferable to the looming battle for the capital.

“Going to Tartus is like going to a different country,” said a Syrian journalist who recently met residents here. “It feels totally unaffected and safe. The attitude is, ‘We are enjoying our lives while our army is fighting overseas.’ ”

Should Damascus fall to the opposition, Tartus could become the heart of an attempt to create a different country. Some expect Mr. Assad and the security elite will try to survive the collapse by establishing a rump Alawite state along the coast, with Tartus as their new capital.

There have been various signs of preparations.

This month, the governor of Tartus Province announced that experts were studying how to develop a tiny local airfield, now used mostly by crop-dusters, into a full-fledged civilian airport “to boost transportation, business, travel and tourism,” as the official Syrian news agency, SANA, reported. The announcement coincided with the first attacks on the airport in Damascus, forcing it to close temporarily to international traffic.

More important, security forces are continuously tightening an extensive ring of checkpoints around the potential borders of an Alawite canton. The mountain heartland of the Alawites rises steeply to the east of Tartus, separating it from much of Syria. Across the mountains, the Orontes River creates a rough line separating Alawite territory from central Syria. Rebel military commanders from adjoining Hama Province said government soldiers vigorously maintain checkpoints on routes leading up into the mountains.

“If we bomb a checkpoint, it is back in place sometimes within hours,” said Basil al-Hamwi, a rebel fighter, speaking on the sidelines of a meeting of opposition military commanders in Turkey. “Once, in Hama Province, we destroyed five in one day and they were all back the next day. This area is even more important for them than Damascus.”

Mr. Hamwi and other rebel leaders said there were about 40 government checkpoints along more than 60 miles in Homs and Hama Provinces alone. Many Alawite commanders of Mr. Assad’s army have sent their families to their home villages, so they are particularly aggressive in protecting the area, said Hassan M. al-Saloom, a rebel battalion commander. They have formed committees to guard the outskirts of their villages, he said, and often negotiate local truces.

“Nobody goes inside, and they don’t come out,” he said.

There are widespread suspicions within the opposition that the military is shipping weapons into the Alawite hinterland, or has already positioned them. “The mountains and the coast make it hard to raid,” Mr. Saloom said.

Castles left by the Crusaders dot the coastal range, a testament to its strategic value.

If Mr. Assad fled to Tartus, he could seek protection from the Russian naval base here, or flee aboard a Russian vessel. Russia announced Tuesday that it was sending a small flotilla toward Tartus, possibly to evacuate its citizens who live in Syria. But Tartus residents said that the Russian families from the naval base had already left, while the officers do not leave the base, which is little more than an enclosure near the civilian port.

There is a precedent for a rump state. France, the colonial power in the region in the early 20th century, fostered an Alawite state from 1920 to 1936, but it eventually merged with what became an independent Syria.

Opposition military commanders vow to block any attempt to create an Alawite state.

“We want to prevent the regime from leaving Damascus at all, to ensure that when Damascus falls, the regime falls, too,” said a senior rebel military commander from Homs, who asked not to be named for security reasons. At a recent meeting of opposition military commanders in southern Turkey, none showed up from the meager forces around Tartus.

The war has only augmented the reputation of people from Tartus for living the indolent life of a relaxed resort. Unlike much of Syria, the town still has bread, diesel fuel and electricity, with minimal power cuts. The local cinema club maintains a robust schedule and recently screened both “Finding Nemo” and “Cinema Paradiso.”

The city experienced a few small antigovernment demonstrations after the revolution first started in March 2011, but none since.

Abu Mohamed, 35, a real estate agent here, has tracked the fighting elsewhere in Syria by the license plates showing up outside his office. First they were from Homs, then Deir al-Zour, then Aleppo and now Damascus.

He gets 20 to 30 calls a day, he said, from people looking for houses to buy or rent.

“Most of them have never been here before, but they seem to be rich or at least middle class because they have nice cars,” he said. Recently, he said, more black government limousines have appeared, and middlemen have materialized, telling him that they are looking for big houses for some unidentified “important and influential figure who wants it for his family.”

Ahmed Jibril, a Palestinian commander still loyal to Mr. Assad, fled with his son to Tartus from Damascus after rebels there gained the upper hand in the Palestinian neighborhood of Yarmouk, activists said.

“Usually at this time of year, the city is empty,” said Abu Mohammed, using a nickname to avoid alienating any clients. “But now it is the opposite. All the hotels, motels, small sea cottages, anything furnished is full.”

Precise numbers are difficult to gauge. Azzam Dayoub, the head of the political office for the underground revolutionary council of Tartus, said there were at least 230,000 war refugees in the city. Others said the population of the entire province, once around 1.2 million, was now closer to two million. Most are Alawites, including countless government employees who have returned to their home province. But many are Sunnis, Christians or others close to the government who no longer felt safe elsewhere.

Mr. Dayoub said Alawites in the town barred other minorities and members of Syria’s Sunni majority from entering their neighborhoods, and the two sides no longer frequent each other’s stores. The Sunni population has been collecting weapons to fight any future attempt to drive them out, he said.

The large presence of non-Alawites along the coast prompted many residents to suggest that building an Alawite state would be impossible. Latakia, for example, a larger coastal city to the north with an international airport, would seem a more natural choice for a capital, but it is considered less safe for its large Alawite population because of repeated clashes there.

There are few public conversations in Tartus about the crisis enveloping Syria, several residents said. “No one on either side discusses their feelings openly,” said a 29-year-old woman who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the tensions there. “They want to keep things calm because both sides are scared.”

Privately, some Alawites dismiss the chances of having their own state. Abu Haidar, 55, the owner of a small import and export business in Tartus, said dreams were one thing, but reality was something else. “What do we have in Tartus Province that would aid us to stand alone as a state?” he asked. “We have neither the infrastructure, nor the resources. It is basically lemon and olive orchards along with a small city with simple services.”

But until the day of reckoning arrives, Tartus seems bent on blocking out the war raging over the horizon.

“The people who came to Tartus are looking to live their lives, not to sit and remember what happened to their brothers and other relatives in their hometowns,” Abu Mohamed said. Given the lavish wedding parties here, the mobbed restaurants and the buzz of daily activity, he said, “Sometimes, when I drive around the streets and squares of Tartus, I forget what is happening in Syria.”

An employee of The New York Times reported from Tartus, and Neil MacFarquhar from Antakya, Turkey. Hania Mourtada contributed reporting from Beirut, Lebanon, and Hala Droubi from Dubai, United Arab Emirates.
Thousands of Syrians leave Jordan for the front lines

Envoy Meets With Assad as Russia Seeks Distance
By KAREEM FAHIM and HALA DROUBI
BEIRUT, Lebanon — Lakhdar Brahimi, the special envoy seeking an end to the Syria crisis, held an urgent meeting with President Bashar al-Assad in Damascus on Monday as new signs emerged that Russia, Mr. Assad’s most important foreign backer, was moving forward with plans to evacuate Russian diplomats and other expatriates.

Mr. Brahimi, the Algerian statesman who has been the special Syria representative for the United Nations and Arab League for three months, did not specify the substance or tone of his discussion with Mr. Assad, describing it only in general terms in brief remarks afterward.

“The president expressed his view regarding the current situation, and I briefed him on the meetings I had in several capitals with officials from different countries inside and outside the region,” Mr. Brahimi told reporters, according to an account posted on the United Nations’ Web site. “I also told him about the steps that, in my view, need to be taken to help the Syrian people find a way out of this crisis.”

But one member of Syria’s political opposition who said he had spoken with Mr. Brahimi’s aides said the envoy had intended to advocate a plan for a negotiated solution first proposed in June. The opposition member, Mohamed Sarmini, said the proposal would temporarily leave Mr. Assad in power, but curb his authority — an arrangement that some members of the opposition had previously rejected as inadequate.

Another prominent opposition member, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the delicacy of the talks, said he understood that Mr. Brahimi had been intending to deliver a “final proposal” to Mr. Assad to leave with members of his intelligence and security services.

Mr. Brahimi was scheduled to meet with opposition members in Damascus on Tuesday, according to Hassan Abdel Azim, a longtime domestic dissident who took a favorable view of the envoy’s visit.

“We are going to listen first to his proposals,” he said. “We support the Brahimi initiative, and we don’t say it has failed at all.”

The envoy arrived on Sunday as new violence gripped the country, particularly in west-central Syria, where rebel groups are trying to capture territory around the strategic city of Hama. Dozens of people were killed Sunday when a Syrian warplane dropped bombs on a bakery on the town of Halfaya, killing at least 58 people — all but three of them men — according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an antigovernment group based in London that maintains a network of contacts inside Syria.

In a sign of the growing perils facing civilians in Hama Province, a jihadist rebel brigade, the Nusra Front, along with other rebel groups, stormed parts of the village of Maan, where many of the residents belong to the minority Alawite sect, according to the Syrian Observatory. In recent days, some rebel groups have threatened to retaliate against Christian and Alawite villages where government forces have taken up positions.

Top Russian diplomats said that Mr. Brahimi, perhaps trying to broker a deal that would help ease out Mr. Assad, may visit Russia as soon as this week. Russian officials have sought to distance themselves from Mr. Assad in recent weeks as the nearly two-year conflict in Syria has worsened, although they still strongly oppose military intervention in favor of a negotiated transition. Some Russian expatriates working in Syria were abducted this month.

Russian security officials were quoted in Monday’s issue of Kommersant, a Russian daily newspaper, as saying that diplomats in Damascus would be evacuated with the help of special forces, if necessary. The authorities are also prepared to send 100 officers from a special armed unit of Russia’s foreign intelligence service, called “Screen,” which was last used to evacuate Russian diplomats from Baghdad in 2003. The newspaper quoted an intelligence source as saying the officers were “ready for a transfer to Damascus, however, the order from above has not been given.”

Ruslan R. Aliyev, an analyst with the Center for the Analysis of Strategy and Technologies, a defense research group based in Moscow, said renewed discussion of evacuations by Russia’s Foreign Ministry reflected what he described as Moscow’s deeply pessimistic prognosis for the region.

Kareem Fahim reported from Beirut, and Hala Droubi from Jidda, Saudi Arabia. Ellen Barry contributed reporting from Moscow, Hwaida Saad from Beirut, and Rick Gladstone from New York.
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Are the Palestinians Ready to Share a State With Jordan?

In the summer of 1993, I was granted a rare scoop as a Palestinian journalist: an exclusive interview with the prime minister of Israel at the time, Yitzhak Rabin, the first ever given to a reporter working for a leading Palestinian newspaper. Midway way through the one-hour meeting, I asked Rabin for his vision as to the ultimate political status of the West Bank and Gaza in 15 or 20 years. Rabin, who at the time, we later discovered, had approved the Oslo back-channel, took a puff at a cigarette given to him by one of his aides, and answered that he envisions It being part of an entity with Jordan.

I remember this response almost 20 years later, and at a time now when the Oslo Accords -- which Rabin signed on the White House lawn in September 1993 -- have all but been declared dead by all parties involved. Mahmoud Abbas, who signed the Memorandum of Understanding with Israel on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) that fall, is now on the verge of leaving political life with no clear successor for him or for the Palestinian Authority that has been established in parts of the West Bank since the agreement's implementation in 1995.

The failure of this approach has led some to suggest other avenues of breaking up the logjam -- the result of U.S. President Barack Obama's lack of political will and the failure of the rest of the world to pick up the pieces without U.S. involvement. It is in this political limbo that the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is finding itself toying with an old-new formula: A role for the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

In a meeting with members of the Ebal charity in October, which is made up of Jordanians of Palestinian (Nablus) origin and hosted by Jordan's speaker of the upper house, Taher al Masri, Jordan's Prince Hassan bin Talal opened up the issue. In the speech, recorded and posted on the jordandays.tv website, the prince stressed that the West Bank is part of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, which includes "both banks of the [Jordan] River." He added that he "did not personally oppose the two-state solution," but that this solution is irrelevant at the current stage.

The October 9 talk received little attention until a former PLO leader repeated the idea, albeit in a different tone. Farouk al Qadoumi, one of the founders of the PLO's Fatah movement, gave an interview to the London-based Al Quds Al Arabi, in which he suggested the return of the West Bank to Jordan as part of a federation or a confederation. Qadoumi, who opposed the Oslo Accords and has refused to step foot in the Palestinian Authority areas, has little clout in the PLO, and at one time accused Abbas of being behind the poisoning of the late Yasser Arafat. Qadoumi's statement was quickly opposed by the secretary of the PLO, Yaser Abed Rabo, who called it "naïve."

But earlier this month, Al-Quds Al-Arabi reported that Abbas informed several PLO leaders "to be prepared for a new confederation project with Jordan and other parties in the international community," and that his office has already issued reports that evaluate "the best strategies to lead possible negotiations with Jordan" toward "reviving the confederation." He has reportedly asked PLO officials to prepare themselves to pursue this strategy. This report, if confirmed by official sources, could be a watershed moment for the Palestinian national movement, and the highest profile endorsement of this persistent proposal.

Abbas's willingness to explore a Jordanian confederation comes on the heels of the United Nation's recent declaration of Palestine as an observer state by a 138-9 vote. This clear victory for Abbas gives him the political capital to explore such a potentially controversial move -- and also the international recognition of sovereignty that would allow Palestinians to enter into a confederation with Jordan as equal partners.

The idea of Jordan having a greater role in Palestine is attractive for various parties. With the Israelis claiming that the Palestinians might repeat the Gaza rocket problem if they withdraw from the West Bank, the idea of a Jordanian security role in the West Bank can defuse such Israeli concerns. A role for Jordan in Palestine would be publicly acceptable in Israel, where the Hashemite enjoy consistent respect among everyday Israelis. Americans would also find such an idea easier to deal with if talks ever return. And even among Palestinians who are unhappy with the PLO and its failures to end the Israeli occupation, any process that can end Israeli presence in Palestinian territories is welcome -- even if that is replaced, temporarily, by an Arab party, whether it is Jordan or any other member of the Arab league.

The suggestion that Jordan returns to a direct role that can include sovereign control (and therefore responsibility) for the West Bank is a long shot for most Palestinians -- and more importantly, Jordanians. Palestinians will see it as infringing on their independence. Jordanians will see it as a burden that will weaken their attempts at building a new East Bank Jordan with as few citizens of Palestinian origin as possible. Such a deal would certainly make Palestinians a majority in a federal system, bringing about the scenario that right-wing Israelis have been pushing, namely that Jordan is Palestine.

A Palestinian-Jordanian confederation, however, is another issue. Confederations are political systems that include two independent countries. For some time in the 1980s, this was the most talked-about term in the region. The late Salah Khalaf (Abu Iyyad), the former head of intelligence for the PLO, was quoted as saying that what Palestinians wanted was five minutes of independence and then they would happily agree to a confederation with Jordan. However, the issue became politically poisonous as soon as the late King Hussein of Jordan said publicly that he doesn't want anyone to ever utter the term "confederation." And so it has been for the past two decades.

Jordan's King Abdullah II, whose wife is of Palestinian origin, doesn't have the same sensitivity, nor do Palestinians have the same concerns about him and a possible Jordanian lust for Palestinian land. Since 1988, Jordan, which had controlled the West Bank until it was lost in the 1967 war, has declared that the unity of the two banks back in the early 1950s is no longer the case. Shortly after the eruption of the 1987 Palestinian intifada, King Hussein declared a cessation of its role in the West Bank. This cessation, which has yet to be constitutionally mandated, has been rejected by the Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood -- the largest and most organized opposition group in Jordan.

It is not clear whether the idea suggested by Prince Hassan and Farouk Qadoumi, and apparently espoused secretly by U.S. envoys to the region, will ever get traction. It is also not clear whether the words of the late Rabin of the Labor party that I published in the leading daily Al Quds at the time are still valid in Israeli governmental circles now headed by the Likud's Benjamin Netanyahu and most likely will continue so after next month's election. Ironically, Jordan's parliamentary elections, which the Muslim Brotherhood's Islamic Action Front Party will boycott, will take place the following day.

While it is unclear if Jordan will ever end up having any sovereign role in the West Bank, support for a greater role for Jordan in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict will no doubt increase in the coming months and years if the current decline of the PLO and the Palestinian Authority continues. The one determining factor in all of the discussions will have to come from the Israeli side, which has yet to decide whether it will relinquish sovereignty over the areas occupied in 1967 to any Arab party, whether it be Palestinian or Jordanian.

so, the next step seems clear. Israel will have to shrink in some form or shape, thus letting the Islamics expand their reach and entrenchment.
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http://www.the-american-interest.com/ar ... piece=1365

Spinoff: The Syrian Crisis and the Future of Iraq

There is an unremarked paradox in the tumult of the contemporary Middle East. Syria is an economically impoverished country of a little more than 20 million people that has been politically stagnant until 23 months ago. Egypt, by contrast, never socially at rest and with its ancient energies newly bestirred, is at 80.5 million people more than four times larger. Yet it is the carnage in Syria, not the continuing multiparty political tightrope act in Egypt, that is more likely to unleash a torrent of violence and instability throughout the Middle East. Before it has run its course it could undo multiple existing regimes and even alter the region’s post-World War I territorial boundaries.

This is because as a consequence of the Syrian uprising the fate of Iraq now hangs in the balance and, with it, the fate of the Middle East. The overflow of Syria’s civil war into Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and even Israel (via the Druze in the Golan Heights) has been often noted, but, surprisingly, the mainstream Western press seems to have forgotten that Syria also shares a border with Iraq. Iraq’s strategic location and its cross-sectarian and cross-ethnic fault lines make its implosion a great threat to the long-term stability and well-being of the region. The shock waves—unbridled sectarian and ethnic violence, possible interstate interventions and warfare, and much higher oil prices—could also jolt the international economy, sparing no one.

It is helpful to contrast the Syrian crisis with the 2011 Egyptian revolt and its aftermath. Only a few years ago, the suggestion that a Muslim Brotherhood government would one day replace the solidly pro-Western Mubarak regime in Egypt, through elections no less, would have sent shivers through most regional as well as Western capitals. Egypt’s military-backed regime collapsed without grave effects or a dramatic shift in the regional balance of power, at least not yet. Iran, which had assumed that Mubarak’s demise would herald a new anti-Israeli and anti-Western power center in Cairo, has been sorely disappointed. Egypt’s new President, Mohammed Morsi, has demonstrated that he can be an adept realpolitiker in regional politics, particularly during the December 2012 edition of the Gaza crisis.

Only a few years ago, too, the notion that the Syrian police state would be brought to its knees by a profoundly under-armed and disorganized opposition movement would have been dismissed as fantasy. But it is happening now before our very eyes, and the consequences of the Assad regime’s downfall are unlikely to be to be as tame as those that have emanated so far from Egypt. Three reasons help explain the differences.

First we must consider blood and time. The Egyptian transformation, unlike the uprising in Syria, has been relatively bloodless. Fewer than 1,000 people died in Egypt; the count in Syria is at least 40,000 and mounting. Mubarak’s fall was also swift: Protests began on January 15, 2011, and he was gone by February 11. Assad’s regime has weathered more than 20 months of first civil unrest and then very violent civil war. All indications are that the Ba’athi regime in Damascus will continue fighting for as long as it can. One ought not be too surprised if a year from now it is still clinging to power, albeit it perhaps in a rump state distant from Damascus. However, the length and extent of the bloodletting will permanently stain Syria’s body politic. The longer the insurrection takes to resolve one way or another, the worse will be society’s future divisions.

Second, the Egyptian state did not collapse with Mubarak’s demise. As cranky, inefficient and inept as the Egyptian state and bureaucracy may have been in the past, they remain a principal source of stability and employment. These institutions were for the most part untouched by the events of 2011. The Muslim Brotherhood, as a result, has inherited the structures of a state that has remained largely intact—though it is not yet clear how loyal those structures may be to a new leadership that differs in kind from that under which those structures took shape. By contrast, the highly sectarian Syrian state is unlikely to survive the civil war. This is partly because the Alawi core and its co-opted Sunni partners will no longer be physically secure in what has been, compared to Egypt, a personalized and under-institutionalized arrangement. But it is also because of the sheer physical destruction the country is experiencing. Assad’s policy of leveling towns that have fallen into rebel hands destroys not only physical infrastructure but also the tools and institutions of state power, from police stations to municipal offices and all kinds of bureaucratic records. Worse is that there still is a great deal more violence and destruction yet to come. If the fighting culminates in an onslaught on Damascus, then the remnants of the Syrian state are bound to suffer from terrible physical and psychological violence. There will be no state left to inherit.

Third, Egypt, in contrast to Syria, is fairly homogenous. It has a substantial Coptic minority that has been rendered powerless after years of discrimination, but the Copts have no political ambitions, kindred regional connections or territorial claims. They constitute a strictly Egyptian phenomenon that exhibits none of the cross-boundary characteristics of many minority groups in the region. Syria, however, lies on two important sectarian and ethnic fault lines. The ruling Alawis, whose religion is a heterodox offshoot of an already heterodox Shi’a Islam, enjoy support from Shi’a-dominated Iran and the Lebanese Shi’a paramilitary group, Hizballah. In the region’s burgeoning Sunni-Shi’a conflict, which pits Saudi Arabia and the Gulf countries against Iran, Syria is a significant prize. Its importance has been even more enhanced since the ascent of Shi’a power in Baghdad. We should remember that in the 1980s Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Gulf countries financed and supported Saddam Hussein’s war on the Iranian revolution. Those sectarian animosities continue to haunt the region.

Syria is also on the cusp of Arab-Kurdish, Persian-Kurdish and Turkish-Kurdish divisions. Emboldened by the current civil war, Syrian Kurds have been swept by a nationalist euphoria. They had been brutalized by Damascus; many were also denied citizenship and with it access to schools, hospitals and other government services. Untrusting, too, of the rebel Free Syrian Army and the political groupings that constitute the political opposition, they have remained on the sidelines looking to consolidate their power. The Syrian Kurdish strategy for the time being seems to count on the civil war weakening both the opposition and the central government, leaving them in a better bargaining position when the carnage comes to an end.

The developments in Syria’s Kurdish region are alarming for both Turkey and Iran. Were Syrian Kurds to win significant autonomy in a post-Assad Syria, akin to the Iraqi Kurdistan Regional Government (the KRG), then two of the region’s Kurdish territories will have achieved a modicum of self-governance and no doubt will coordinate to some extent. The demonstration effect on Turkey and Iran would be hard to contain. Turkish Kurds are already demanding the devolution of central government powers to all of Turkey’s regions. Long-dormant Iranian Kurdish formations are also showing signs of waking from their slumber. The emergence of a Syrian Kurdish enclave is also putting pressure on Massoud Barzani, the president of the KRG, who has developed a careful and harmonious relationship with Ankara.

The waves created by sectarian and ethnic discord in Syria, however, will be most harmful to Iraq. Syria’s intrinsic power, role and influence in the region are vastly overestimated. The belief that Syria is the “heart of the Arab world” reflects the dramatic magical thinking that permeates the region. Hafez al-Assad, the current President’s father, played on this to successfully marshal Syria’s meager resources into what appeared to be a winning diplomatic strategy. He understood that Syria’s importance was directly tied to Israel, so he crafted a spoiler’s foreign policy in part by nurturing both Hizballah and Hamas (although Israeli missteps had much to do with the emergence of both) and employed them to fashion a “rejectionist bloc” that included Iran. This more than anything else made Father Assad and Syria actors of consequence on the international stage. In turn, this bought him time and peace at home not just to consolidate his and his family’s rule but to also bat away criticisms of mismanagement and the lack of economic progress. In one sense at least, little has changed: The current President’s defensive narrative on the Syrian civil war emphasizes only one issue: Syria’s critical role in the rejectionist front against Israel, whose supporters are claimed to be the real source of opposition to the government.

Damascus was once the seat of Islam’s first great empire, the Umayyad Dynasty. Under the Ottoman Empire and since, independent Syria has stagnated. With its poorly managed economy perpetually in shambles, Syria has been barely getting by. Its agriculture remained underdeveloped despite the country’s relatively abundant hydrological riches. Syria’s centuries-old sophisticated Sunni trading class plies its wares mostly outside of its homeland. The authoritarian Syrian state has stifled its agricultural and industrial/trading sectors alike with an omnivorous and burgeoning class of crony businessmen.

For these reasons as well as those of geography, Syria pales in comparison to Iraq when it comes to regional political significance. Iraq, a nation of nearly 33 million, is first and foremost a major oil producer. Its relevance as a producer will only grow with time because so many new fields and hydrocarbon sources are in the process of being discovered and brought online. Global oil demand, especially because of the growth in emerging economies such as China, India, Turkey and Brazil, will continue to increase while new oil becomes more expensive and more difficult to find. Iraqi ambitions, even if exaggerated at times, are likely to make that country a pivotal state in the global and regional oil equation. Already Iraqi oil production has overtaken that of neighboring Iran.

Both Syria and Iraq are situated on the Sunni-Shi’a fault line. As contentious the current sectarian-driven conflict may be in Syria, the Shi’a offshoot there, the ruling Alawis, constitute a small minority, maybe 12 percent of the total population. The Alawis owe their privileged position to Hafez al-Assad, who as an Alawi general went about systematically embedding fellow Alawis in senior positions throughout the security bureaucracy. The security agencies also became a source of jobs and upward mobility for poor Alawis, as well as allied minorities like Druze and some Christians. The state assumed a sectarian character. The Syrian uprising, if successful, will result in the Sunnis toppling the Alawi-dominated state.

In Iraq the situation is different. The Shi’a majority (some 55 percent) has finally assumed power thanks in large measure to the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. It has been difficult for Iraqi Sunnis to accept the rise to power of the Shi’a majority after having enjoyed unrivaled power throughout Ottoman rule and since Iraqi independence. Many Sunnis in the region, not just in Iraq, perceive themselves in a Manichaean struggle with the Shi’a and their powerful patron in Tehran. For these Sunnis, the probable collapse of Shi’a offshoot Alawi rule in Damascus is a potential sign that the pendulum is swinging back in their favor. Change in Syria, given the porous borders between the two countries, especially in the Sunni-controlled provinces of Anbar and Nineveh, is likely to give further impetus for Sunnis to resist the Nuri al-Maliki government in Baghdad. It is for this reason that the Iraqi Prime Minister has supported Assad’s beleaguered regime. His policy is likely to earn even more enmity from Sunnis who see him acting on sectarian impulses. After all, Iraqi Shi’a had been the victims of Assad’s policy of facilitating the flow of foreign jihadis into Iraq during the American occupation, for the sole purpose of killing Shi’a.

Today Iraq is held together by a shoestring. Violence is on the upsurge, and Maliki is increasingly demonstrating his authoritarian tendencies as he pushes forward with an agenda that has not won him any friends in the region. The Saudis have not given him much quarter and would like to see him go. He has made an enemy of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, as each accuses the other of putting sectarian interests ahead of regional interests and stability. Turks provided refuge to the Iraqi Vice President Tariq al-Hashimi, who escaped following his indictment on charges of helping Sunni death squads to operate in Baghdad. This increasing regional rift may be music to the ears of many Iraqi Sunnis, who have been heard saying, in effect, “the Ottomans are back in Istanbul, the Umayyad are about to re-conquer Damascus, and next Sunni Abbasid power will return to Baghdad.”

A Sunni victory in Damascus will necessarily mean a shift in the regional sectarian balance of power. Sunnis in Iraq have also revived the idea of seeking autonomous arrangements like the KRG, something they had violently suppressed earlier. What is at stake is the 1916 Sykes-Picot Anglo-French-drawn regional boundaries. Having “lost” Syria, Iran’s natural reaction will be to double down in Iraq, where it already has a great deal of influence. It will want Iraq to provide strategic depth. It is even conceivable that Tehran will create a Shi‘a analogue of the Brezhnev Doctrine—once a government is Shi‘a, it stays Shi‘a, even if we have to send expeditionary forces to keep it that way. Will the neighbors stand idly by if this were to occur?

Iranian behavior even well short of a military intervention can mightily complicate matters in Baghdad as Maliki tries to navigate treacherous waters: He will not want to appear to be in Tehran’s pocket while trying to extend a branch to Sunnis, something that will be extremely difficult in any case. Iraq will therefore become the new front line in the Sunni-Shi’a war, and one naturally expects the Saudis and other Gulf countries to pour resources into this conflict even beyond those they are already putting forth.

The intensification of the Sunni-Shi‘a conflict in Iraq also has repercussions for the KRG. Buoyed by increased oil earnings, the KRG has done well but has found itself increasingly at odds with the central government in Iraq. The exploration and sale of oil and gas, as well as the federal competencies and disputed territories, mainly those claimed by the KRG, are among the issues that divide the governments in Erbil and Baghdad. The Iraqi government has threatened international companies doing business in the petroleum sector in KRG territory without its permission. Still, several big international oil companies, including ExxonMobil, Chevron and Total, have decided to risk Baghdad’s wrath as they elected to expand their investments in the KRG, sometimes by abandoning or selling their assets in southern Iraq.

The KRG has also pursued a policy of rapprochement with Ankara despite the latter’s deepening problems with its own Kurdish minority. Ankara, long opposed to Kurdish ambitions in northern Iraq, has made its peace with the KRG, hoping that under the careful leadership of Barzani Iraqi Kurds will cooperate with Turkish efforts to contain both the Turkish Kurdish insurgent group, the PKK, headquartered in the mountains of northern Iraq, and Turkish Kurds’ increasingly bolder demands. Turkish companies have found a welcome haven in the KRG; from banks to consumer durable makers to construction firms, hundreds if not thousands of Turkish companies are now doing business with Iraqi Kurds. Turkey, with its expanding need for energy, is also eyeing the KRG’s carbon resources for both its own needs and for shipment into Europe. In the struggle between Erbil and Baghdad, Ankara is increasingly siding with the Kurds. Strengthening the KRG is a way for Ankara to weaken Maliki.

Although the KRG has no intention at the present time of initiating a process that would lead to de jure independence and hence the formal territorial breakup of Iraq, it will not shy away from declaring independence were Iraq to fall victim to centrifugal forces emanating from the Sunni-Shi‘a conflict. Reluctant to antagonize its Turkish ally, KRG leader Barzani has been careful not push the independence issue. Tensions with Baghdad are mounting beyond the oil and gas issue. KRG claims to Kirkuk and other parts of northern Iraq not formally under its federal sovereignty lurk behind all questions; these were supposed to have been resolved through a referendum that kept being postponed. In November 2012, a skirmish between KRG military forces and the Iraqi police risked flaring into a major confrontation until cooler heads on both sides prevailed. Complicating matters further for Iraq is the precarious health of its President, former Kurdish leader, Jalal Talabani, who has not only managed to get Maliki and the Kurdish leadership to compromise but has also worked hard to contain sectarian tensions.

The Kurds of the region are not united, and therein lays the greatest challenge for Barzani. The Syrian uprising has brought that country’s Kurds to the forefront. Biding their time, they have so far remained largely on the sidelines of the Syrian civil war, mistrustful of both sides. Syrian Kurds are themselves divided by geography and political allegiances. The largest and most powerful organization is the PYD, the Democratic Union Party, which is affiliated with the PKK. Barzani has tried to bring the PYD and its much weaker opponents, the KNC, Kurdish National Council, together on a number of occasions, but with limited if any success. The PYD’s brand of Kurdish nationalism is at odds with that of Barzani’s: The Syrian group, while not participating in any violence against Turkey, nevertheless has declared its allegiance to the jailed PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan.

In effect, there is a clash between two forms of nationalisms. One is pan-Kurdish, leftist and militant, the other is prudent, centrist and privileges the interests of the KRG above all else. The PYD’s resistance to Barzani is curious considering the Iraqi Kurdish leader’s political and economic assets: He is, after all, in control of a territory that is welcomed in many capitals, including Washington, and possesses significant oil-derived resources. The pragmatic thing for Syrian Kurds in the aftermath of the Syrian uprising would be to gravitate toward the KRG in search of resources and protection. But the slow but forceful gathering momentum of the Turkish Kurdish nationalist movement and its transformation into a autonomy-seeking one is casting a long shadow. The Turks had hoped that both Barzani and Talabani, would exert a calming influence on Turkish Kurds; both leaders have indeed counseled Turkish Kurds to settle with Erdogan on account that he is the most likely and capable Turkish Prime Minister. So far, feeling the winds of change at their backs, the PKK and its supporters in Turkey have appeared most reluctant to take this advice. This reluctance and Erdogan’s mismanagement of the situation have led to increased tensions and hostilities. All this puts Barzani and the KRG in an impossible situation, and were the Syrian uprising to end with an all-out Arab-Kurdish clash in that country, the region could be faced with a new ethnic conflagration, and its first casualty would be the tenuous stability of Iraq.

Perhaps few countries today are as susceptible as Iraq to the meddling of outside powers. The Iraqi government has to fend off the encroachment of states that fear the implications for their own domestic politics of developments in Iraq. Outside meddling is not always motivated by expansionary or grandiose goals but sometimes by defensive ones. Saudi Arabia, most of the Gulf countries and Jordan fear the consequences of Shi’a power; Iranians, Turks and Syrian have eyed Iraqi Kurds with a great deal of consternation because of the demonstration effects of their successes. That said, the complexity of Iraqi domestic politics also means that different internal groups seek the patronage and meddling of the outside powers. Turcoman groups have closely aligned themselves with Turkey and have occasionally entangled Turkish authorities in their dangerous plans.

Even the United States, by virtue of its long occupation of Iraq, has a stake in that country that exceeds its traditional regional interests, whether in balance of power or stability. The descent of Iraq into civil war and chaos would be particularly damaging to Washington’s self-image, domestic politics and, of course, its international standing, precisely because it has invested so much blood and treasure there.

Following the most recent Iraqi parliamentary elections, the United States, Turkey and the Iranians were heavily involved in influencing the composition of the governing coalition. The unavoidable proliferation of outside actors in Iraq does not bode well for the future of Iraqi cohesion. It may be that Iraq is destined to break up, but, if this is the case, the significance of the Syrian crisis is that it can certainly hasten the process.

the whole thing reads like someone had a vision of the future and decided to put it down on paper. the author is saying that Assad will go, come what may, or however long it may take. and then goes on to say Iraq will be the real piece of contention.

if the Oil companies are so boldly investing with the KRG, then they might know something that the rest of us don't. Kurdistan seems like a surety now. but what about Turkey and Iran? will it mean that they will be shrunk too? the Iraq Kurds seem to be an independent state, for all practical purposes.
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Reports that Indian ambassador to Syria has returned to India via Beirut.
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Massive protests in Anbar province - Iraqi govt declares emergency law per sky news.

Iraq Sunnis block trade routes in protest against PM Maliki http://reut.rs/TvYC83
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LIke the Paki "tribesmen",who looted and raped in the Kashmir war of '48,so too do the mercenary fighters of the Syrian "Opposition" resemble.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/de ... spoils-war

Syrian rebels sidetracked by scramble for spoils of war
Looting, feuds and divided loyalties threaten to destroy unity of fighters as war enters new phase
Ghaith Abdul-Ahad in Aleppo
The Guardian, Thursday 27 December 2012

Syrian rebels in Aleppo
Syrians carry a desk out of a school in the Saif al-Dawla district of Aleppo. Photograph: Ghaith Abdul-Ahad

It wasn't the government that killed the Syrian rebel commander Abu Jameel. It was the fight for his loot. The motive for his murder lay in a great warehouse in Aleppo which his unit had captured a week before. The building had been full of rolled steel, which was seized by the fighters as spoils of war.

But squabbling developed over who would take the greater share of the loot and a feud developed between commanders. Threats and counter-threats ensued over the following days.

Abu Jameel survived one assassination attempt when his car was fired on. A few days later his enemies attacked again, and this time they were successful. His bullet-riddled body was found, handcuffed, in an alley in the town of al-Bab.

Captain Hussam, of the Aleppo military council, said: "If he had died fighting I would say it was fine, he was a rebel and a mujahid and this is what he had set out to do. But to be killed because of a feud over loot is a disaster for the revolution.

"It is extremely sad. There is not one government institution or warehouse left standing in Aleppo. Everything has been looted. Everything is gone."

Captured government vehicles and weapons have been crucial to the rebels since the start of the conflict, but according to Hussam and other commanders, and fighters interviewed by the Guardian over a fortnight in northern Syria, a new phase has been reached in the war. Looting has become a way of life.

"Spoils" have now become the main drive for many units as battalion commanders seek to increase their power.

The problem is particularly pronounced in Aleppo, according to Abu Ismael, a young lieutenant from a wealthy family, who ran a successful business before joining the fight against Bashar al-Assad.

Many of the battalions that entered the city in the summer of this year came from the countryside, he said. They were poor peasants who carried with them centuries-old grudges towards the wealthier Aleppans.

There was also a lingering feeling that the city – where businesses had been exploiting cheap peasant labour for several decades – had not risen up quickly enough against the Assads. "The rebels wanted to take revenge on the people of Aleppo because they felt that we had betrayed them, but they forgot that most of the people of Aleppo are merchants and traders and a merchant will pay money to get rid of his problem," Abu Ismael said. "Even as the rest of Syria was gripped by revolution, the Aleppans said, why should we destroy our business and waste our money?"

When the rebels entered the city and started looting the factories, a source of money dried up.

"In the first month and a half the rebels were really a united revolutionary group," Abu Ismael said. "But now they are different. There are those who are here only to loot and make money, and some still fight." Did Abu Ismael's unit loot? "Of course. How do you think we feed the men? Where do you think we get all our sugar, for example?"

In the chaotic economics of the war, everything has become a commodity. Abu Ismael's unit, for example, took a supply of diesel from a school compound, and every day his unit exchanges a few jerrycans of the precious liquid for bread.

Because Abu Ismael has a supply of food and fuel his battalion is more desirable than others in the sector. Commanders who are unable to feed their men tend to lose them; they desert and join other groups.

Bullets are equally important. When military installations and warehouses are looted the battalion that captures ammunition grows by cannibalising smaller, less well-equipped units that have no bullets to hand.

In a dark apartment in the Salahuddin neighbourhood of Aleppo we sat with a group of commanders who were discussing the formation of a new brigade that would bring their various battalions together. They soon turned to the topic of loot.

One of the commanders present had led an operation into the predominantly Kurdish neighbourhood of Ashrafiya in Aleppo, but according to several fighters who were there the action failed when the army counterattacked because the rebel support units that were supposed to reinforce the front instead turned their attention to looting.

"I want to know exactly what you took that day," the commander of a small unit told the leader of the assault. The commander opened a notebook to write, while another man held a flashlight above his head. "As long as one fights while the others are busy collecting loot we can't advance," he said. "The loot has to be divided equally."

The leader started to list the luxury cars and the weapons his units had found and taken, while the other commander wrote them down in the notebook. Some of the cars would be sold back to the owners – if they paid out a hefty ransom.
Outside sponsors

The war in Aleppo is not only funded by what can be appropriated by the various units, but also by the patronage that they can attract from sponsors outside Syria, a factor which has also contributed to the myriad forming and re-forming of units, all of which control individual fiefdoms in the city.

All of this has fuelled rivalries and ever-shifting allegiances, factors that have undermined the struggle to defeat the forces of the Syrian president.

Fighting units often exist only because of their sponsors. If a sponsor loses interest a battalion is dissolved and the men join another, better-funded battalion. Battalions are often named after historical Arab or Ottoman figures in order to help lure money from the Gulf kingdoms or from Turkey.

One Friday afternoon after prayers a group of the most senior commanders fighting in Aleppo, 32 in all, gathered in part of a sprawling former government compound, the building's once polished marble floors now covered with puddles of water, its walls blackened by soot. Sitting in low leather chairs around a large table, many of the men carried the scars of two years of fighting – missing eyes, lame arms, crippled legs.

The meeting was chaired by Abdulkader al-Saleh, a leader of the Tawheed brigade, one of the biggest and best equipped rebel battalions in Syria.

First on the agenda was the task of reintroducing the men to each other, as many had switched battalions since their last meeting in the endless game of musical chairs of the Syrian revolution.

A who's who of the revolution followed, each commander stating his name and his unit. Some battalions were huge, with hundreds of men, artillery pieces and tanks. Others consisted of fewer than 50 fighters.

"Haji, I thought you were with Halab al-Shaba'a brigade," Haji Marea said to one of the men. "No, we have reformed. We are a new battalion," the man said.

"Brothers, we have a grave situation ahead of us," interjected Abdul-Jabbar Akidi, a defected colonel who leads the military council of Aleppo. Formed to channel supplies to the rebels, the council was supposed to be the overarching command structure for the Free Syrian Army in Aleppo. Instead, it soon became one more faction among many competing for influence.

"The battle has stagnated here," he said. "There has been no real progress on the fronts and that has affected our sponsors, who haven't been sending us ammunition.

"Even the people are fed up with us. We were liberators, but now they denounce us and demonstrate against us. We have to unite and form an operations room for all the battalions."

Soon, however, the conversation took a familiar turn, moving on to complaints about units keeping equipment to themselves.

A short, clean-shaven commander in a leather jacket spoke up: "The problem is that some battalions have artillery and tanks and they are keeping them for themselves and not participating in the attack. Bring me the pieces that were captured from the base of the 46th brigade [a government unit] and I will take over the secret police buildings in Aleppo without having to send my men to die in front of government snipers."

The second item on the agenda concerned the formation of a revolutionary police force.

As the revolution in Aleppo stagnated and the rebel commanders settled in to rule their "liberated" neighbourhoods, each battalion had started forming its own revolutionary security service, or Amn al-Thawra, manning checkpoints and detaining people, which had led to a spike in kidnapping.

The commanders put forward proposals for how they could create a single disciplined security force.

One moustachioed former colonel in a brown suit began reading what sounded like a Ba'ath party manifesto: "I call for the formation of a secret bureau of revolutionary military security service," he said.

Many of the men in the room had been detained and tortured by Assad's security services and sank into their chairs as the former colonel spoke.

"We fought against the regime because of these secret security forces," said a man with a thick rural accent.

Another battalion commander with a soft voice and a neat blue turban began to speak. "I call for the formation of a small unit of our brothers, the religious students," he said. "Their job would be to advise the people before the need to use force."

He added: "They will be armed with their wisdom and religious teaching and it should be called the committee of ruling with virtue and the prevention of vice. It will be the first step in preparing the people for an Islamic society."

At this, a young fighter shouted from one end of the room: "The problem is not with the people. The problem is us! We have battalions sitting in liberated areas who man checkpoints and detain people. They say this person is a shabiha [a government militiaman] and take his car, or that man was a Ba'athist, take his house.

"They have become worse than the regime. Tell me why those men are in the city, in liberated areas, why are they not fighting at the frontline?"

As the room choked with the smoke of cigarettes, the commanders agreed to form one unified security force. Yet weeks later, there would be little evidence of that force.
Abandoned posts

There were many further stories of looting heard during the our time in Aleppo. A pharmacist who had volunteered as a medic in one of the rebel field hospitals explained why he was running short of penicillin.

The rebels had taken over the warehouse of a leading pharmaceutical company and then had resold the stock back to the owners, shipping all the drugs back into government-held territory, he claimed.

He added: "I went to the warehouse to tell them they had no right to the medicine and that it should be given to the people and not re-sold. They detained me and said they would break both my legs if I ever went back."

In Saif al-Dawla district a commander who was furnishing a new headquarters for his newly formed battalion walked into a school compound with a few of his men.

A group of civilians stood watching in the late afternoon as the men trawled through the school. Burned and torn pictures of Assad lay on the floor. Desks and chairs were upturned and broken, and plastic flowers and students' projects were strewn around.

The men ferried some of the tables, sofas and chairs outside the school and piled them up at the street corner. Computers and monitors followed.

A fighter registered the loot in a big notebook. "We are keeping it safe in a warehouse," he said.

Later in the week I saw the school's sofas and computers sitting comfortably in the commander's new apartment.

On the frontlines of the Ameriya neighbourhood, south of Aleppo, we met Abara and his men.

Abara is young and short, in his early 20s, with fair hair and few pimples scattered on his face. He had defected from the army a year earlier. We had first met three months earlier when he was leading his men through the alleyways of Salahuddin, and many of those fighters had been killed or maimed since then.

He was now sitting with the survivors on a cold concrete floor in an abandoned building a block away from government troops. Between the men was a jar of greasy-looking green olives, a bag of bread, a plate of olive oil and some thyme. "It's much worse now," Abara said of the war. "Now it's copper and wheat that commanders are after instead of liberating the city."

He added: "The problem when people stop fighting – I liberate an area, I need resources and ammunition, so I start looting government properties. When this has finished I turn to looting other properties and I become a thief."

The physical ground that, at the moment, lay between him and the government line consisted of a series of shattered buildings where snipers from both sides appeared to shoot at almost anything that moved.

"When the army attacked us last week the unit that was here abandoned their posts and withdrew," he said.

Now, he said, in order to regain the lost territory he would have to fight house to house. "Why should I, when the rest are looting?"

He added wearily: "One day when the war against Bashar is over, another war will start against the looters and thieves
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Since all continents are done with looted during barbaric colonial times, it is coming to organized infiltration and general pillage in the name of whatever excuses that can be passed off. What could natives of Syria done in the face of barbarian rampaging horde full on firepower and fake legitimacy?
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So much for those who are jumping with glee expecting Assad's fall.
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Syria: Deadly air strike 'hits Damascus petrol station

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20890108
Dozens of people have been killed by an air strike on a petrol station in the outskirts of the Syrian capital, Damascus, activists say.
Has anyone here already posted, or can they direct me to, a situation report or analysis on the disposition of Assad's military airfields vis a vis rebel activity?

I'm assuming that an air force would need some geographical depth (particularly for fighter craft) and/ or a strong ground protection force.

Based on that assumption and also how the air force has been used in this war, would the loss of major military airfields be decisive in further crippling the regime?
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Chinese General Threatens "Third World War" To Protect Iran
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Recent advances by Jabhat Al Nusra in syria are being put to KSA GID support.

Russia told the US, UK and France that they will take control of Syrian chemical weapons in order to prevent western raids to get them. This will save the west a lot of money. This contradicts an earlier message I received that the Russians have already taken control of the stocks to prevent western raids.
Syrians are not party to a treaty on handling chemical weapons so the Russians are saying that they can get rid of the weapons without anyone knowing and without all the safeguards that the treaty requires

Sarkozy received ‘€50 million’ from Qaddafi, French judge told - http://t.co/lv18vQjh #Libya

@Basma_: Diplomat told me #Syria transitional gov would remove powers from Bashar and the problem for Syrians with him staying would be psychological
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rkirankr wrote:So much for those who are jumping with glee expecting Assad's fall.
Religious license already given
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Protest RT @PritishNandy: Now? @TarekFatah: cleric in Saudi Arabia issues Fatwa allowing Jihadis to rape Syrian Women. http://youtu.be/6Qvo4_hMrF4
Isnt it all the more reason for them to jump with glee? Why the new fatwa? its allowed by the Quran - sura-al-baqarah. It does not distinguish between Muslim or non-Muslim female captives. They are all right-hand-possessions.
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With our growing muslim demographic and our hostile neighborhood we may have to face this type of situation sometime in the near future.
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Saudi Wahhabi Preacher Issues Fatwa Allowing Jihadis to Rape Syrian Women

http://youtu.be/6Qvo4_hMrF4
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What a fearsome fatwa oh mullah of the sacred state of Saud! May your tribe multiply like the fruit of the pomegranate .Oh awesome rediscovered weapon of war,no doubt inspired by your cousins the Pakis! We await first pics of the Saudi blessed and financed "rape regiment" ,with their weapons at the "carry",eagerly awaiting to make first "contact" with and "prick" the enemy-the poor defenceless Syrian women!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... cause.html

Streets of Gaza turn to gold as thousands rally to Fatah cause
Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians poured onto the streets of Gaza on Friday in a display of popular support for the Fatah faction of the Palestinian leadership as resentment rises against the Islamist Hamas movement.

By Robert Tait, Gaza City
04 Jan 2013
Central Gaza city was transformed into a mass of yellow flags as Fatah staged its first rally since it was thrown out of Gaza five years ago in a brutal offensive by Hamas.

The rally heard calls for a renewal of the united front between the two groups as Fatah leaders sought to begin the next stage of reconciliation after the years of mutual and violent hostility following Hamas's seizure of power in 2007.

Friday's event was permitted in reciprocation for rallies Hamas was allowed in the Fatah-controlled West Bank last month. The groups had previously banned each other from organising parades in their respective strongholds for the past five years and had carried out mutual crackdowns on memberships.

Addressing the gathering by video link from Ramallah in the West Bank, Mahmoud Abbas, the Fatah leader and president of the Palestinian Authority, said division had to end: "There is no alternative to unity to achieve our goals."

That message was undermined on the streets by the anger of Fatah supporters, who said Hamas's rule was characterised by human rights abuses, restrictions on free speech, and economic privations, including soaring unemployment and high taxes.

"You look at all these people today and they are smiling – you haven't seen that for the last five years because Hamas has been governing the Gaza Strip," said Khaled Shokoky, 27, a nurse in the European hospital in Gaza. "People have not liked the limits on their freedoms. You are not allowed to talk about Hamas's mistakes. People have been shot in the legs because they criticised Hamas."

The rally, marking the 48th anniversary of Fatah's first armed attack on Israel, was the culmination of several days of apparently spontaneous carnival-like scenes. Cars were driven with horns blaring up and down Omar el-Mukhtar Street, the city's central thoroughfare, for hours on Thursday night, their occupants waving flags and shouting pro-Fatah slogans. Many people camped out overnight to ensure a good vantage point at the rally in Soraya Square, where Gaza's central prison once stood. In the ensuing crush, at least 20 people were reported to have been injured, and one man was said to have died of a heart attack.

Despite the feeling on the streets, a Hamas spokesman, Sami Abu Zuhri, said that the event could bring about reconciliation. "The success of the rally is a success for Fatah, and for Hamas too. The positive atmosphere is a step on the way to regain national unity," he said.

An Egyptian official said yesterday that the groups would hold further talks within two weeks after suggestions that Hamas – which refuses to recognise Israel – could join the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), the main Palestinian umbrella organisation that has sanctioned years of peace negotiations.

But Abdel Kadir al-Afifi, 59, a veteran Fatah activist, believed the chances of reconciliation were slim. "Hamas wants everything," he said. "They don't want to share leadership or work with others. They want to be the alternative to the PLO, not become part of it."
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^^^Was not this fatwa said to be a case of false reporting.

You guys go easy, I would suggest.
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Well Sarcozy received X billions from Qaddafi, as someone says to a French judge, and now Egyptian judiciary claims Muslim Biratherhood received billions from Obama. Its all in the family onlee.
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Hezbollah being challenged politically in Sidon by popular Nasserist Organisation. Sidon supposedly a bastion for Hezbollah. The Syria issue has given Hezbollah a beating too politically and the higher their casualties and the position will weaken their support/profile. Nasrallah will be replaced at some point, he has enough enemies within the organisation.

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As predicted some time ago. Victory in Syria will mean a de-fanged Hezbollah, then sort out Iraq. Anbar will make the threat to join with 'Free Syria'.
Protests engulf west Iraq as Anbar rises against Maliki

Islamists pursue own agenda in Iraq's Sunni protests
By Suadad al-Salhy

BAGHDAD | Fri Jan 4, 2013 1:27pm EST

(Reuters) - Street protests in Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland pose a new challenge to Shi'ite Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki as shock waves from the Sunni-led insurgency in nearby Syria strain his country's fragile political balance.

Over the past two weeks, tens of thousands of Sunnis have staged demonstrations, and in Anbar province they have blocked a highway to Syria in a show of anger against Maliki, whom they accuse of marginalizing their community and monopolizing power.

The discontent is real, but the protests are driven by Sunni Islamist parties bent on carving out an autonomous region akin to the Kurdish one in the north, Kurdish and Sunni sources say.

They say the Sunni Islamists scent an opportunity to escape what they see as Shi'ite domination, counting on a victory by Sunni rebels trying to topple Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, whose Alawite minority has its roots in Shi'ite Islam.

Assad's eventual demise would weaken the sway of Shi'ite Iran, Syria's main regional ally and an influential player in Iraqi politics. Sunni states such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey have backed the Syrian leader's adversaries.

Heartened by a possible shift in the Sunni-Shi'ite balance of power in the Middle East, Iraq's Sunnis are giving vent to the frustrations they have endured since the U.S.-led invasion overthrew Saddam Hussein and empowered majority Shi'ites.

Some waving Saddam-era Iraqi flags, protesters have echoed the chants of Arab uprisings that have brought down leaders in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen in the past two years.

"We will never relent. Enough of Sunnis living in Iraq like outsiders. This time it's do or die for us," said Jamal Adham, a tribal leader from Saddam's former hometown of Tikrit.

Their demands, fuelled by sectarian sentiment, range from mending crumbling public services to abolishing anti-terrorism laws they say are used to persecute Iraq's once-dominant Sunnis.

"What's happening is not spontaneous," said Mohammed Tofiq, spokesman for Kurdish opposition movement Gorran. "The forces behind the current protests are Sunni political parties."

Senior Sunni sources say the Iraqi Islamic Party (IIP), part of the Muslim Brotherhood, is the prime mover in a campaign to create an autonomous Sunni fiefdom, by force if need be.

"Sunnism is our slogan and a region is our goal," senior cleric Sheikh Taha Hamed al-Dulaimi told demonstrators in Anbar in a video on his website. "Do not scatter your demands."

The IIP exerts influence through mosques and clerics in Sunni strongholds such as Anbar province, which was almost completely controlled by al Qaeda at the height of Iraq's insurgency in 2005-07 and shares a porous border with Syria.

Militants linked to al Qaeda appear to be regrouping in the caves and valleys of Anbar, and some are crossing the border to join Syrian rebels fighting to topple Assad's police state.


The tribes of Anbar were instrumental in subduing al Qaeda in 2007, making common cause with U.S. troops to fight fellow Sunnis in what came to be known as the "Anbar Awakening".

Now, Anbar is awakening again, but this time the target is Maliki - and U.S. forces who once held the ring are long gone.

"Anbar has always had the power to be very influential in Iraqi politics," said Gareth Stansfield, an Iraq expert at Exeter University. "This should be of great concern to Maliki."

SUNNI BUBBLE

The protests ignited after Maliki detained the bodyguards of Sunni Finance Minister Rafaie al-Esawi last month, just hours after Iraq's Kurdish President Jalal Talabani, seen as a steadying hand, suffered a stroke and went abroad for treatment.

Iraqi authorities said the bodyguards had confessed to involvement in assassinations carried out in coordination with security men employed by Sunni Vice President Tareq al-Hashemi.

Hashemi fled into exile a year ago and was later sentenced to death in absentia for terrorism. Esawi himself was once a leader of an armed Islamist group, Hamas al-Iraq, in Anbar.

The arrests and alleged confessions of bodyguards of the two senior Sunni leaders followed a strikingly similar pattern, but this time round, Maliki is more isolated, analysts say.

One Shi'ite lawmaker said Maliki had planned to target Esawi for some time and had calculated that it would be easier to strike now and contain the Sunni backlash than to do it later when Sunnis might be emboldened by events in Syria.

"Maliki told me he would go after Esawi and his bodyguards more than a month ago," said the parliamentarian on condition of anonymity. "He preferred to burst the Sunni bubble, rather than wait for it to blow up in his face".

So far, Maliki's response has been cautious.

This week he said his patience was wearing thin and warned he would not tolerate the Sunni rallies indefinitely, but made a small concession by releasing 11 women detainees and allowing others to complete their sentences in their home provinces.

That will not appease all the protesters.

The provincial council of the predominantly Sunni Salahuddin governorate on Thursday re-submitted a request to the electoral commission to form their own region. Other Sunni-majority provinces have previously presented similar demands.

Under the constitution drawn up after the U.S.-led invasion, each province or group of provinces is entitled to create a federal region if it wins enough votes in a referendum.

"This is the moment when we see whether Maliki has emerged as the strongman of Iraq," Stansfield said. "Either he enforces a centralized government on Iraq or allows federalism to be the organizing principle of governance across the country.


"The question is whether it's done after fighting or instead of fighting."

The central government in Baghdad is already at odds with the Kurdish region. Their long-running feud over land and oil rights recently escalated into a military build-up in the oil-rich territory along their contested internal boundary.

The Kurds and other rivals of Maliki are likely to use the Sunni protests to pile pressure on the Shi'ite leader without necessarily jumping on board, analysts and politicians say.

Both Kurdish President Masoud Barzani and influential Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr have voiced support for the protesters in Anbar and elsewhere, as long as they drop sectarian slogans and stop glorifying Saddam's Baath party.

Sunnis are united against Maliki, but many are wary of hardliners who they fear might revive the kind of inter-communal conflict that previously drove Iraq to the brink of civil war.

Sheikh Hameed Turki al-Shook, a senior Sunni tribesman in Anbar, said: "The demand to create the regions is not ours and those working to spread these ideas do not represent us."

(Additional reporting by Raheem Salman, Ahmed Rasheed and Aseel Kami in Baghdad, Isabel Coles in Arbil and Kamal Naama in Ramadi; Writing by Isabel Coles; Editing by Alistair Lyon)
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Based on the November 14th meeting, GCC have signed an in-principle agreement to have a regional police force staffed by all 6 states to enable intervention like what took place in Bahrain.

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Hezbollah have installed infrared cams on the entire section of the border with Israel. UNIFL didnt say anything. Cameras are connected to a command and control centre.

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French govt will change their tune on french participation once french drones are operational over Mali. At the moment publicly french are saying they won't be deploying troops. but this is BS, french SF are already on the ground gathering intel and monitoring areas held by jihadis.

Operational plans are being discussed: targetted strikes on AQIM in 2013 while remaining neutral towards Ansal Deen and Tuareg groups who are just busy smuggling cigarettes and goods instead of actually fighting. Other european states are considering joining ops. US Spec Ops Command chief and AFRICOM commander were in paris for SF seminar and they discussed these options and plans.

French are looking for Algerian blessing for operations against AQIM, Algiers is mediating the peace talks with tuaregs and Ansar Deen in Burkino Faso. Algiers said they will only support strikes against AQIM. France is looking to sign defence agreements with Algiers as they are the regional power at the moment there.

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Before Col Wissam was assassinated in Leb, he was in Paris and he spent a week in Berlin as part of a delegation of lebanese intel. There it appears the Col met with representatives of Hamas. The FSI has been coordinating logistics etc of the FSA on behalf of Gulf states. And using Hamas's extensive network in Palestinian camps and also urban areas. FSA is keen to use this dormant network for publicity grabbing ops in syrian cities. Hamas delegation also met with the harriri family in leb.

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FSA launching their own intel service staffed primarily of defected Air force intel officers. Main aim is to identify double agents working for regime.

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Bandar working closely with Hakan Fidan - his turkish counterpart. Bandar has been making several trips to Turkey. KSA GID officers operating in the turkish border out of a mil base that is also used by MIT (turkish intel). Fidan also visiting Riyadh for several meetings and one on one meetings with Bandar.

Bandar bin Sultan, the head of the General Intelligence Directorate (GID), is working ever more closely with his Turkish counterpart Hakan Fidan on Syria. While Turkish military chief Necdet Ozel visited Riyadh from November 15 to 18, Bandar has made several trips to Turkey in recent months and GID officers have been operating at the Turkish border out of a military base also used by Turkey’s Milli Istihbarat Teskilati (MIT) intelligence service. Fidan has also visited Riyadh several times for one-on-one meetings with Bandar and other Saudi officials.
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Egyptian intel which was supported by Qatari and Turkish intel supported the ceasefire negotiations.

They had their meetin with the mossad to discuss ceasefire on Nov 21st. Pardo (mossad chief) attended with Tevel unit (focuses on diplomacy with countries that dont want to be publicly speaking to israel) officers. Hakan Fidan (MIT chief) flew down for negotiations and met with pardo. Both sides talked about Syria and both talking about jihadists and their role.

Pardo also held meetings with Qatari intel officials in cairo.

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Nightwatch


Nightwatch 6 jan 2013

Syria: President Bashar al Assad in a speech in Damascus on 6 January was defiant of the international coalition arrayed against him. He vowed to fight on and presented an updated version of last year's peace and political reform initiatives that called for a national reconciliation conference as well as a new government and constitution. He conditioned his reforms on actions by other countries to stop providing arms and financial support to the Syrian rebels.

Comment: Before Christmas, the Syrian opposition appeared to be on a roll and the Asad regime looked weak. Since then, government forces have rolled back the opposition in at least two regions and regained some composure. The fight looks like a stalemate again. That judgment should be unsettling in Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Washington, after two years.

Special comment: What remains perplexing to NightWatch is the reason why Western and Arab governments deliberately would destabilize an otherwise stable state, knowing that this would result in the massacre of tens of thousands of people. Blocking the Iranians in Syria might be a worthwhile objective, assuming it is feasible, but the human costs and lack of success to date make the Syrian uprising look like a strategic blunder on 6 January 2013.

As the Syrian uprising enters its third year, the US, the West and the Arabs have nothing to show for their investment except the some 60,000 dead, according to the latest UN figure. If there is a point in this, it is very hard to discern.



{West cant tackle Syria. When you cant solve problem make it worse for everyone else.}

Israel-Syria: Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has promised to build 70 kilometers (43.5 miles) of fortified fence along the Golan Heights in response to concerns over the Syrian regime's instability and chemical weapons capabilities. Netanyahu added that as Syrian forces withdraw from the Israel-Syria border, jihadist forces have moved into the area.

Comment: The Israelis have proven beyond dispute that well-designed and well-made fences work. They stop cross border infiltration and attacks except by indirect fire weapons with high trajectories.
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X-posting from Islamism thread:
Islamists strengthen position in Egypt reshuffle
Cairo - The Muslim Brotherhood has strengthened its position in the Egyptian government following the latest government reshuffle, which saw members secure three more portfolios, media reports said on Monday.

The ministries of transport, domestic development and supply went to members of the Brotherhood from which President Mohamed Morsi hails, reports said.

Eight of the 35 ministers led by Prime Minister Hisham Qandil come from the Islamist group which already holds the ministries of information and housing.

The new Finance Minister Al-Morsi al-Sayyed Hegazi, an academic specialising in Islamic finance, is also considered to be close to Brotherhood although he is not a member of the powerful organisation.

Ten new ministers joined the government in Sunday's reshuffle which drew criticism in the media and among some parties.

“The Islamisation of the government”, wrote the independent daily Al-Shuruk.

The newspaper also quoted the head of the leftist Tagammu party, Rifaat al-Said, slamming the reshuffle and describing it as a “stranglehold” by the Brotherhood over the government.

The liberal Al-Wafd daily cast doubts over the government's ability to deal with a difficult agenda within two months, or until legislative elections are due to take place in February or March.

State media, meanwhile, quoted Morsi urging the new government to intensify its efforts to solve the country's deepening economic crisis.

Sunday's reshuffle came on the eve of talks due to resume on Monday in Cairo with the International Monetary Fund for a loan of $4.8 billion which many see as a key prerequisite for economic recovery. - AFP
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