Internal Security Watch

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Oct 2011 12:16

sum, my point was how could somebody who is called as 'islamist radicals' be fighting against 'communalism'. Aren't they already communal themselves ? We have seen this oxymoron play out several times in Indian politics. Some parties would be termed as communal while others who openly have their religion as part of their party name be termed 'secular'.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Oct 2011 14:55

ramana wrote:Marut, dheeraj rakhna. Its a different fight.

Sorry Ramana Garu. I've been trying to understand this "different fight" for ages. The only fight I see is done by our soldiers on our borders that too "in defense" and not "offense". Apart from this fight there is no fight from political setup of India against what this country is facing from across the border. Its all confusion and selfishness for politicos on handling pakis. We have interlocutors and all, but is there a dedicated parliamentary committee on Pakistan affairs since we have a problem with them since partition? which ought to think and talk in the national interest always?

I have full respects to our Armed and Police Forces but what they are made to do as their duty is to kill red ants one by one that too if they enter our territory on the orders of our Legislative setup instead of targeting ant hill. I mean there is no point in this kind of fight unless you hit the head to paralyze the whole body. I mean, how hard is it to slow poison the water lines heading to D's house when you know his address in Karachi? How hard is to snipe the a55 off of Hafiz in one of those damned anti-India rallies by a trained Baloch when Bhutto could be blown up by some paki phuker? These are the "Examples" to set by an emerging power or whatever jingos here refer to India and send a message across the border and other nations who have evil designs for India. Calling it "Different", "Chankiyan" etc fights is just to satisfy ourselves. In reality, our legislative setup and its leaders are not yet there to put up a fight. All the fight that is being put as a "Duty" is by our security personnel that too in "defense". We are here today because of some sane Babus in the establishment.

As far as my understanding goes, there is NO "Fight" by India. We just talk and make money wherever possible and wait for others to steal it from us and talk and yap about it after its gone.

Regards.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 25 Oct 2011 13:07

North Indians can bring Mumbai to a halt: Cong MP Sanjay Nirupam

Flame has been lit, now MNS will take it up and in the end India's Financial capital will be the loser in this Divide and Loot strategy.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 25 Oct 2011 14:38

Aditya_V wrote:in the end India's Financial capital will be the loser in this Divide and Loot strategy.

It is good in long run.. Mumbai either has to become more "desi" or some other desi city has to take up the mantle of Mumbai. In her current form, Mumbai is epitome of India's mercantile mentality where everything is for sale. The city forms a critical part of the kabul-karachi-mumbai-hyd-vizag-ASEAN drug trade route extent for centuries now. Almost everything big in Mumbai is illegal. too much of crap money coming in. all these leaders (RT, SN et al) are result of that dirty money. It is true that Mumbai had a cultural charm until 70s. After rise of Haji bhai and departure of Varada bhai, it has been steep downhill slope. Same can be said about Delhi region, but in political sense.

Of course it should be taken care that the rot which makes up mumbai does not spread to other city taking up the mantle. otherwise the gangrene spreads.

devesh · Post by **devesh** » 25 Oct 2011 19:10

how can it be good in long run. is the present mess "changing" anything to believe that Mumbai will change in the long term?

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 25 Oct 2011 22:02

With all the alerts of TSP-LeT attacks around Diwali, I'm really worried about tomorrow being the 26th. Hope India can stay safe.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 25 Oct 2011 22:19

Communal Violence Bill

FIR against NAC and SG from SSwamy.

report: Swamy files FIR against Sonia 'for targeting Hindus'

The text of the FIR: PDF file

Basically, it looks like the Bill itself is communal. Once it is passed, no one can even claim that communal violence by minorities is communal. It actively hides and ignores communal violence by minority and deals only communal violence by Hindus. What a communal bill it is.

I wonder in which secular country such a law could be passed. This is abusing secular credential of Hindu culture by those who want to hide communal violence in the name of minority/majority politics; especially when it is the Hindus who are a minority in Global village.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 25 Oct 2011 23:31

^^^ Rajmart is in a hurry. She needs a tonne of brownie points to go to heaven and she needs them in the next 16 months. That is what her baaps in recent visit to Italy must have told her.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 27 Oct 2011 13:20

Witness in Sanjiv Bhatt case goes missing

See the spin, witness who testifies against INC leader and Sanjiv Bhatt goes missing and Narendra Modi is responsible, even though the Gujarat Govt. will be the loser and Sanjiv Bhatt, INC the winner if the witness is eliminated.

Truly the world is flat.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Oct 2011 19:02

Rangudu wrote:With all the alerts of TSP-LeT attacks around Diwali, I'm really worried about tomorrow being the 26th. Hope India can stay safe.

Don't know the reason but it was psy-ops by US, Canada, Aussies and NZ. No others issued such alerts.

Reasosning based on fact they issued alerts but did not share any information with GOI. If its based on threat assessment they should have shared it. But didnt. ergo its fake.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 27 Oct 2011 22:48

NIA’s Kerala headache

The list of terrorists from Kerala is shooting up and the National Investigating Agency has been drawing up several lists which indicate that the problem is grave. Although the NIA has not been able to make much sense out of the manner in which these groups or individuals work but they do realise that the patterns that they have been seeing is quite disturbing.

Recently added into the list of absconders are Mohammad Ashar and P Yusuf the two accused in the Kozhikode twin blasts case. The NIA has now written to the Ministry of Home Affairs to act against these two persons and request that an Interpol alert is issued against the duo.

The duo according to the investigation had no real inkling towards terror until the year 2003. They then came in contact with T Nasir who is also an accused in the Bangalore blasts case and from here their journey into terrorism commenced. In fact for the twin blasts at the bus stand in Kozhikode in the year 2006 the material was arranged by Yusuf while the bomb was prepared in the house of Ashar. Both these persons hail from Cheruparamba and Thaliparamba near Kannur which is notorious for its communal wars. This itself explains in detail the progrom of these two men into the world of terror, an NIA source said.

The NIA has been digging deep into the networks of Kerala and so far have realised that most of the cases associated with this state are largely political in nature. The closest that any agency has come is to Abdul Nasar Madani a politician himself. In fact it was the interrogation of T Nasir that blew the lid and made it very clear as to how important a role politics and terror play in this state.

The information that has been trickling in from the various accused who have been nabbed do not give a complete picture. However what investigators realise is that it is a cocktail of both politics and terror that is playing truant in the state. The likes of Ashar and Yusuf would have a lot of details with them and it is necessary to corborate them in order to get the correct picture. There is a need to nail those in power since they stir up the emotions of several youth when the elections are round the corner. Nasir himself during his interrogation said that they were well aware that politicians were looking for people like him and for a quick buck they undertook such activities. To the world it looked like a jihadi operation but in reality many of these attacks have been politically motivated. The NIA investigation has also found that such incidents lead up to the arrest of several youth and this becomes a plank during the elections. Such incidents are on the rise.

Now with the NIA on the trail of the above two mentioned youth it would be interesting to see what they would actually have on them once nabbed. Yusuf according to an Intelligence Bureau report is away at Saudi Arabia while Ashar is at Dubai. These youth from Kerala continue to find the Gulf as a safe haven due to the large number of sympathisers over there. Moreover the entire money trail for any terror operation in Kerala is from the Gulf.

The NIA is also foxed with the ease in which they managed to slip out. The latest information suggests that the two have decent jobs and life for them is pretty much normal. Not only do they enjoy a lot of political patronage, but also have the right set of contacts to give the police the slip over here. Today the NIA is in touch with the Dubai police seeking help to nab these persons.

The NIA during its probe has found the mindset among several youth to be extremely dangerous in Kerala. They openly support Jihadi groups in Pakistan and have started to believe that this is the ideology that needs to be followed. This has made terror an open racket in Kerala. Not only do these persons recruit with ease, have no issues where the funding too is concerned.

NIA officials say that it is difficult to make sense out of the operations over here. It is chaotic one could say. They have an ideology and do subscribe to the views of various outfits. However what makes the job harder is that they also know fully well on how to operate individually in smaller groups which makes the job even worse. Although not an impossible task it would still take time to shut down the terror shop in this state, the NIA also pointed out. This could happen with a higher rate of conviction and a stronger policy apart from some excellent investigation.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 28 Oct 2011 06:14

From the Urdu Press

Colonel’s end

The killing of Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has provoked some sharp reactions in the Urdu press. Rashtriya Sahara, in an October 23 editorial titled ‘Colonel Gaddafi haq par the’ (Colonel Gaddafi was right) writes: “Developments in Libya are an ugly blot on the civilised world. Gaddafi was following the right path. He was pitted against NATO, not his rebels. The people of Libya were with him till his end.” The paper adds: “Those who are singing the tune of the great powers, and calling him a dictator, should consider for a moment — what harm has this dictator caused to NATO countries or the world? Had he attacked any country, and established control over it? Did he use any forbidden weapon against any section of people? Had he become a threat to the peace and stability of the world? It is another matter that, had he wanted, he could have altered the course of events that caused his death — by offering his country and its natural resources on a platter to the NATO countries.”

A hard-hitting editorial in Inquilab, published from Mumbai, Delhi, Lucknow, Kanpur and Bareilly, calls Gaddafi Libya’s “iron man”, writing that “his most significant quality was that he had long talked to the US on an equal footing (aankhon mein aankhen daal kar). This was the reason that he was always on its hit-list. Cowardly US presidents kept conspiring against him and even tried to kill him, but they never succeeded. This was the reason that the US and its allies took the first opportunity to shamelessly exploit the country’s changing domestic situation. It is known that popular protest and unrest was not confined to Libya: after starting in Tunisia, it spread to Algeria, Jordan, Egypt, Bahrain and other countries. Yet the US and its allies did not resort to action in any of these countries. Only Libya was chosen for this cowardly act.”

Hyderabad’s leading daily Munsif writes in its editorial on October 23: “It is most important that... the civil strife between Gaddafi supporters and those opposed to him is controlled, and a working democracy is brought about...Libya’s (rich) oil resources must benefit its people, and it is imperative that NATO is removed from the internal affairs of the country, and people get a chance to elect their own government and control their own affairs.”

Interestingly, while Inquilab on October 26, among other Urdu papers, led with an explosion in an oil field in Sirte in Libya shortly after Gaddafi’s secret burial, leading to about 100 deaths, there was virtually no mention of this in the non-Urdu press.

Just a by-election

The results of the recent by-elections to the Hisar Lok Sabha constituency and several assembly seats have been the subject of much debate. Delhi-based Hamara Samaj writes in its October 19 editorial: “Following the by-election results, the Congress is being attacked from all sides... It should definitely try to identify reasons for its defeat, so this trend can be reversed in future elections.”

On the impact of Anna Hazare’s campaign in Hisar, Mumbai’s prominent daily Urdu Times, in its editorial on October 18, expressed its agreement with J&K Chief Minister Omar Abdullah’s remarks on Twitter: “Omar has said that since Hisar was not a Congress seat, the result is not an indication of any trend. And he is right.”

Delhi-based Jadeed Khabar, in its October 20 editorial, writes: “Generally, political parties consider by-election results held in a few constituencies on which they focus all their resources as the indication of a general trend. Actually, that is not the case. The results of the five state elections due next year can indicate the mood of the people and the political scenario of the future.”

The other corruption

Inquilab, writes on October 17: “The arrest of former Karnataka chief minister B.S. Yeddyurappa is a cause for shame for the BJP, which has been crying itself hoarse over recent scams and scandals... And why talk only of financial corruption? Every departure from orderly conduct, or illegitimate use of the system of governance, is corruption. From this point of view, L.K. Advani — riding his rath, running for prime minister — is in the same league as Murli Manohar Joshi, Uma Bharti and others considered responsible for the destruction of the Babri Masjid. Likewise, Gujarat CM Narendra Modi is in the same category, as he made illegitimate use of governmental machinery in 2002 and abused constitutional norms.”

Compiled by Seema Chishti

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 28 Oct 2011 07:38

Abhi, I think we should have a thread called from regional language press views and post reports like the one above.

sum · Post by **sum** » 28 Oct 2011 09:29

The NIA during its probe has found the mindset among several youth to be extremely dangerous in Kerala. They openly support Jihadi groups in Pakistan and have started to believe that this is the ideology that needs to be followed. This has made terror an open racket in Kerala. Not only do these persons recruit with ease, have no issues where the funding too is concerned.

And criticizing them means we are communal and so no one can even lift a finger against them!!!

Desh and Kerala in particular seems to be headed into a deep, deep abyss.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 28 Oct 2011 15:25

Bomb found on Advani's yatra near Madurai, he continues tour

Advani escapes bomb attack in Madurai

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Oct 2011 22:34

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/new ... e+in+India
RIM sets up a Blackberry surveillance base in India

CANADIAN COMMUNICATIONS FIRM Research in Motion (RIM) is helping the Indian government set up a surveillance base to keep track of its Blackberry communications services.A report at the Wall Street Journal says that the base will be used for lawful communications snooping and is based in Mumbai. Apparently though, it might not go far enough and does not fully meet India's demands for access to Blackberry messages.The base appears to be some sort of compromise. Last year India wanted to tap into Blackberry user conversations and communications and threatened to shut RIM out of the country if it did not get its way. Rather than suffer banishment RIM decided to work with the government and built the surveillance base.
People familiar with the matter said that RIM will supply information on communications as long as it is satisfied that the request has the proper legal authorisation. Under the agreement India can submit the name of a suspect it wants to tap, and RIM will return decoded messages on request.The sources claim that India might want more, for example, the ability to tap into messages without involving RIM at all, but as far as RIM is concerned things are going okay so far.RIM said in a statement, "We are not operating under any deadlines and we believe the government of India is now applying its security policy in a consistent manner to all handset makers and service providers in India, which means that RIM should not be singled out any more than any other provider." µ

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 28 Oct 2011 22:44

Prem ji - we will still never have transcripts of the doings and goings on between trusted members of ruling coteries, or where the biggest chunks of corruption flow through. The current regime can always use such surveillance to protect key people, and use the information politically against threats to personal power.

All it will do is to push the real stuff further away from such regular channels. If such info never gives any inkling of stuff like 26/11 - all it proves that surveillance is only used for narrow political purposes - not in the interest of the people as a whole.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Oct 2011 01:14

Sir ji,
As long as Indian elites think in term of being rulers and not hired for governance to serve Mangomen , we will have to live with this corruption. I dont see these leeches going away unless India has 1/2 French revolution with 400 % Formula One biz like efficency in arranging Guillotine Fairs in major cities . This will help in changing the attitude of these good compromised fellas.Methods and means of of making black money are same which are used to supress Indic identity /aspirations as well. None of the super secularist have shown solidarity with Ramdev, Anna or return of Swiss money issue. Instead they are activly trying to scuttle the efforts and muddy the water.Sarre Ek hi Thailee ke Chatte Batte since 47, they remain threat to nation and civilization in collaboration with inimical forces of far and near abroad.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 29 Oct 2011 02:10

Bomb on Advani's route either implies the rise of al umma or Kudankulam idiots in action. Either way this is not looking good. Things could get messy when the engineer-wannabe kicks the bucket. Its going to mix caste, religion, language, economics and politics in one complicated bloodbath.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 29 Oct 2011 02:56

Stan_Savljevic wrote:Bomb on Advani's route either implies the rise of al umma or Kudankulam idiots in action. Either way this is not looking good. Things could get messy when the engineer-wannabe kicks the bucket. Its going to mix caste, religion, language, economics and politics in one complicated bloodbath.

Five years of looking away and letting the head out of jail (thankfully he was wanted by k'taka police) gets you bomb on advani's route. Wasn't a bomb planted on his route/venue before the coimbatore riots way back then? Thankfully nothing of that sort happened again.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 29 Oct 2011 03:03

Imagine the possibilities if it was planted by one of the Kudankulam protesters.

kshatriya · Post by **kshatriya** » 29 Oct 2011 03:30

Coimbatore Riots were waiting to happen back in 1997 and Advani gave the much needed impetus needed...Coimbatore hosted some of the remnants of Hyder Ali/Tipu sulthans soldiers who are as Anti India as they come ...Most of the Bombs were carried out their leader Basha with the blessings of Mad-Ani...TN is headed for massive caste based re-organization these days...Interesting days ahead once Dr Artiste meets God Ram

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 29 Oct 2011 05:39

Malik had also planned bombing Supreme Court

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 29 Oct 2011 09:06

India shuts server linked to Duqu computer virus

Indian authorities seized computer equipment from a data center in Mumbai as part of an investigation into the Duqu malicious software that some security experts warned could be the next big cyber threat.

Two workers at a web-hosting company called Web Werks told Reuters that officials from India's Department of Information Technology last week took several hard drives and other components from a server that security firm Symantec Corp told them was communicating with computers infected with Duqu.

News of Duqu first surfaced last week when Symantec said it had found a mysterious computer virus that contained code similar to Stuxnet, a piece of malware believed to have wreaked havoc on Iran's nuclear program.

An official in India's Department of Information Technology who investigates cyber attacks also declined to discuss the matter. "I am not able to comment on any investigations," said Gulshan Rai, director of the Indian Computer Emergency Response Team, or CERT-In.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 30 Oct 2011 10:21

Prasad wrote:Five years of looking away and letting the head out of jail (thankfully he was wanted by k'taka police) gets you bomb on advani's route.

Yes thankfully folks like Mahdani cannot hide their true colour for long. He is now being charge sheeted in a case in Karnataka. Now TN Police also feels he was involved in another bomb placing case in one of the courts in Tamil Nadu. Old pal Mahdani is now in Parappana Agrahara Central Prison and Tamil Nadu police wanted him to be taken back to Coimabatore. But because of ill-health (?) that could not be done.

Vasu · Post by **Vasu** » 31 Oct 2011 14:04

CBDT's extensive scrutiny of NGOs

The income tax department’s headline-making notices to non-governmental organisations (NGOs) associated with Kiran Bedi, the ex-police officer who is member of social activist Anna Hazare’s team, is part of an extensive national exercise, say officials.

The exercise being carried out by the Central Board of Direct Taxes (CBDT) to detect tax evasion by all such entities, a senior official told Business Standard.

“About 100,000 NGOs have filed tax returns in 2010-11 and the department has started picking up the cases for scrutiny on the basis of certain criteria relating to the type of NGOs and financial activities beyond a specified limit,” he added, while declining to provide details.

The charitable activities of NGOs associated with relief to the poor, education, medical relief, protection of the environment and protection of archaeological monuments and any other purpose of general public utility are not taxable. Commercial activities of NGOs in any other purpose of general public utility, however, are taxable, said the official.

The Finance Act, 2011, raised the specified limit from Rs 10 lakh to Rs 25 lakh for such activities. The official said under the proposed Direct Taxes Code (from April 1, 2012), the surplus income of NGOs were slated to be taxed at 15 per cent and the department was conducting the current exercise to prepare a map for handling these entities in the new taxation mechanism.

A study commissioned by the government put the number of not-for-profit entities at 3.3 miliion till 2009.

The actual number could be much larger now, as the study, commissioned in 2008, took into consideration only those registered under the Societies Registration Act, 1860 or the Mumbai Public Trust Act and its variants in other states.

According to the CBDT, the notice to Dr. Bedi's NGO is a part of this nationwide process. Talk about timing! I hope they are also sniffing out the funding sources of many of these NGO's.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 Nov 2011 03:49

BioTerror in India

In the year 1996 there was a major dengue haemorrhagic fever outbreak in the country. While the situation was brought under control the fact remains that till date there is absolutely no trace of how that virus came into the country. There is a good chance of it that it came from outside the country. Was it a case of bio terrorism? There are no answers to that.

Today all of us discuss in depth the various forms of terrorism that the country faces. We face sea borne attacks, aerial attacks, fidayeen strikes and bomb blasts. This leaves us with the question as to how big is bio terrorism in India and is the threat real or as grave as it has been made out to be.

According to security reports the concept of bio-terrorism is real for sure and Pakistan based Jihadi groups are capable of launching an attack of this nature. There have been intercepts in the past as well to show that these groups are capable of launching such an attack, but till date they have not used it. This could be due to two reasons- one that they are not fully prepared and secondly they would like to save the deadliest form of attack for the last.

Intelligence Bureau officials say that it is still an attack of the future and there does not seem to be any concrete movement in this direction as yet. We have information of plants in both Afghanistan and Pakistan which are aimed at carrying out bio terrorism. However they lack the required expertise and they are on a hunt to find to more specialists who can create the required infrastructure.

Terror groups will give more precedence to bio terror when compared to chemical terror since the former has deadlier effects. Moreover when compared to chemical warfare the concept of bio terror is more fool proof and it can cause a greater deal of destruction and the effects are far reaching.

In the Indian perspective the situation is pretty grim when it comes to combating such a form of attack. The mindset to look into major outbreaks as bio terrorism is just not there. Incidents in the past have been classified as natural outbreaks. However there is no confirmation of any form to indicate what had actually caused these outbreaks. Although it has been classified as natural outbreaks they have not been able to prove this too.

Security experts say that although there is no immediate threat of bio terrorism it would be better if the country is alert to such a threat. There is an urgent need to set up a disease surveillance network in India and despite several proposals being made there is no action on this.

There is a sense of bravado among terror groups and they would still want to show that they can fight their enemy. This is one of the main reasons why they would continue to battle Indian forces on the ground. However in the years to come they would surely move towards bio terrorism to make matters worse. Fake currency does not result in deaths, but it turned out to be a silent killer with the Indian economy being eroded. It is a very slow effect but far reaching and this would be the exact scenario in the case of bio terrorism as well.

The Home Ministry of India has a fair idea of this threat. There have been several meetings which go on to indicate that they are seriously discussing this issue. Even the recent cables did point out that India was seriously discussing this threat. The scare however discussed most in the Indian context was the anthrax scare which had also become a huge issue in the United States of America a couple of days after 9/11.

There have been various studies conducted regarding this topic and the more one digs into it, the issue looks serious. Terror groups may not just target human lives with the help of bio terror. Even agriculture crops could become a target of the same, a report of the Home Ministry states.

The report which has been quoted in the cables does indicate that India faces a serious threat. Terror groups in Pakistan have been showing signs of expanding their capabilities and the most recent change being noticed is their advancement in the bio technology sector.

India finds itself on a weak footing since the controls are not up to the mark. To add to the worry is the pathetic health sector in India which makes people more vulnerable to such an attack.

Going by the specific inputs that have been put out by the Indian agencies one thing is clear and that is it would be groups such as the Al-Qaeda and the Lashkar-e-Tayiba which would be readying for such a warfare. Only both these groups have the capabilities to launch such an attack. In fact last year it was pointed out that the Al-Qaeda was raising funds for such forms of attacks. It is an expensive affair and they would need some very good recruits to carry out the job for them. In fact it was also planned that they would hire women as carriers for the job. Some 800 odd women have been recruited for the job, reports would also suggest.

Traces of terror groups setting up labs for such warfare date back to the 1990. The first of the labs was set up at Kandahar in Afghanistan and this was largely to fight the enemy in their country. However the worry is that the same labs could now be used to launch attacks in other parts of the world including India. While the lab at Kandahar is under the control of the Al-Qaeda the one at Muzaffarabad is under the Lashkar.

Reports also indicate that once they decide to launch such a form of warfare then they would target both human life and also the agriculture sector. Today they have the capabilities to create an outbreak which would lead to diseases such as tickborne hemorrhagic fever viruses and yellow fever.

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FYI, Madurai is known for those type of small bombs. Its usually used by gangsters and all that - mainly politicians goondas. It wasnt meant to kill hundreds per IB - mainly to settle scores. TN Police in general is pretty good.

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 01 Nov 2011 07:15

Khalistan terror group says Sajjan Kumar was target

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Nov 2011 11:04

Vaiko to fast for closure of KKNPP

This is getting ridiculous. People protesting must provide alternate power then.

P.s- Actually I wouldn't mind the protesters being tied to a giant wheel with slots, these slots should have knives with them and protesters in between. As long as the protesters keep running these wheel will join a turbine and generate power, if they stop the knives go into their back. That way they can have their wish of no nuclear power(and off course receive the NGO funds for protests) and we can have our wish of cheap power to develop India.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 01 Nov 2011 11:36

Vaiko counts for less than zilch in these parts.It might spur the people to rethink on the issue.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Nov 2011 18:32

Just when one thinks these gents can go no lower

Infants to fast against Koodankulam n-plant

The Idinthakarai fishermen have not gone into the sea today (Tuesday). Tamil movie director Seeman is expected to visit Idinthakarai," Pushparayan said.

I think considering his anti-power stand, theaters where his movies are to run should have power cuts and he should compensate the theater owners for the power cut. Isn't the guy who is on charges of rape for cheating an actress with a promise to marry. All these low lives are riding these causes while the people of TN suffer power cuts to homes and industries.

Just imagine if the state had surplus cheap power that Chip manufacturing plants can be set up, TN becoming a global manufacturing Hi Technology player and millions in the state who will get employed. But I guess that is not the problem of this director, but only cheap politics is.

Simple question to protesters- give alternate power of 2000MW at such rates. You want Nuclear safeguards -yes they should be provided and explained. But threatening workers, wanting to cancel the power plant the stage of project completion- ridiculous.

Sachin · Post by **Sachin** » 01 Nov 2011 19:32

Aditya_V wrote:Simple question to protesters- give alternate power of 2000MW at such rates. You want Nuclear safeguards -yes they should be provided and explained.

Good question (but it will not be answered). Have you noticed any of these "professional" protestors ever coming up with an alternative? "Ban this, Stop that" that is all they can say. The sad part is that they can get away with this. I am sure that the authorities can bring enough and more "skeletons out of the closets" of these gangs. But they are not doing it.

habal · Post by **habal** » 01 Nov 2011 19:46

Maybe there is an LTTE link to this Kudankulam agitation. This needs to be explored. Once the coastal stretch of TN is instigated, it becomes a fertile ground for destabilization into Sri Lanka.

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 01 Nov 2011 20:18

JJ promised to resolve the power situation within 2 years. She HAS to get the power stuff sorted out. She only partially supported it due to local body elections. Now thats over, she will have more flexibility. PM and JJ are in regular contact via letters to PMO apparently.

bharatiya · Post by **bharatiya** » 02 Nov 2011 21:56

Interesting take on war plans post Parliament attack and post Kaluchak

"The fact is that American diplomacy worked post Parliament attack as Indian military and not political leadership faltered."

http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/inside- ... tan-twice/

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 02 Nov 2011 22:03

bharatiya wrote:Interesting take on war plans post Parliament attack and post Kaluchak

"The fact is that American diplomacy worked post Parliament attack as Indian military and not political leadership faltered."

http://blogs.hindustantimes.com/inside- ... tan-twice/

Mein Gott, this is not for Int Sec thread, this needs to be copy pasted on pretty much every thread on BRF.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Nov 2011 22:05

He is bsing and making gratitous remarks. Can discuss later. Wish the Parakram thread was still open.

sum · Post by **sum** » 04 Nov 2011 11:45

Former Al-Umma activists involved in Advani bomb case: Police

Two former hardcore members of banned terror outfit Al-Umma have been identified as the masterminds behind the plot to target the convoy of BJP leader L K Advani during his yatra near here and a manhunt is on to nab them, Special Task Force (STF) officials said here.

"Police" Fakruddin and Bilal Mallick, close associates of slain terrorist Imam Ali, had started hatching the conspiracy as the schedule of Advani's yatra was announced last month, they said.

The STF suspect that the two were hiding in either Bangalore or Andhra Pradesh and special teams have been sent there for investigation, the officials said.

Fakruddin, son of a retired police constable, was involved in a blast case at Ovamalai in the district in 2002, in which Imam Ali was arrested. He had helped Ali to escape when he was being taken to Palayamkottai prison. Ali, a dreaded terrorist, was killed in an encounter in Bangalore in 2002.

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Bilal Malik was one of the accused in the murder of Hindu Makkal Katchi leader Kalidass five years ago. When he was in Vellore Prison he had attacked the jailor and a case was still pending, police said.

A powerful pipe bomb was unearthed from under a bridge and defused on October 27 at Alampatti village, about 30 km from here, on the route of Advani's yatra.

Police on Nov 1 arrested Ismath and Abdullah Rahman, both city residents, and detained one Usman Ali on Wednesday in connection with the incident.

STF officials said Ismath and Rahman were only perpetrators who had given their vehicles. "It was information about the motorbike of Ismath, a watermelon seller, which was noticed continuously for three days on the bridge at Alampatti, that helped police to nab the two culprits," they said.

Fakruddin and Mallick had taken the help of Ismath and Rahman, thinking police would not suspect them as they were not in any organisation.Rahman had helped in hiring an autorickshaw to bring the explosives without raising any suspicion.

Have to admire the TN police for their efficiency and fast work compared to the central agencies like NIA etc which are struggling to solve even one case ( with more than adequate help from INC/GoI in tying their hands)

sum · Post by **sum** » 04 Nov 2011 11:54

Election time yet again and time to pull out saffron terror from cold storage. This time with a twist that muslims actually planted the bombs but under saffron loony guidance:
Were Malegaon blasts executed by hired Muslim youth?

Union Home Minister P Chidambaram recently declared that the National Investigation Agency will not oppose the bail pleas of the nine muslim youths arrested in connection with the 2006 Malegaon blasts. Toral Varia analyses the reasons behind this decision and what are the new leads being explored by the NIA.

Latest investigations into the Malegaon 2006 blasts point to certain leads which suggest that while the blasts may have been the brainchild of a group of right-wing Hindu extremists, its execution was done by hired Muslim boys who apparently did it for the money.

The controversial investigation into the Malegaon 2006 blasts is currently in its fourth round, having passed on from the Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad to two different teams of the Central Bureau of Investigation, before finally being handed over to the NIA.

The last two stages of the investigation have been largely based on the primary leads that have emerged out of Naba Kumar Sarkar, aka Swami Aseemanand's confession.

Over the past few months, both the CBI, prior to handing over the investigations to NIA, and the latter have meticulously gone about recording statements of the accused and witnesses connected with the Sunil Joshi murder case in Indore, and the Nanded, Parbhani and Jalna blasts in Maharashtra.

According to the source, it was through the Dakads' interrogation that the CBI could map out an accused Abrar Ahmed Gul Ahmed's travels to various dharamshalas in Indore, Shabri Dham Ashram in Gujarat's Dangs District, and a couple of safe houses in Mumbai. Ahmed is an approver in the 2006 Malegaon case.

"We could establish through witnesses that Abrar had travelled to and stayed in Indore for over a month, but the managements of dharamshalas haven't co-operated much with us," says a CBI officer who was involved with the investigations before it was handed over to the NIA.

During the course of its investigations, the CBI also learnt that Mahesh had procured a library card from an acquaintance in Kolkata. A close scrutiny of the library records revealed that Mahesh Dhakad was undergoing training to impersonate a Muslim.

"We suspect that this was a part of the process to ensure the smooth induction of Muslim youths in their plans."

According to Aseemanand, the real mastermind was Joshi and it was in fact Aseemanand himself who was instrumental in selecting Malegaon as a prime target, as it has sizeable Muslim population.

Pratyush · Post by **Pratyush** » 04 Nov 2011 12:13

When RSS can be blamed for 26/11. I am surprised that the Safron Loony fringe is not blamed for more terror attacks by the Sickular Gobermound of the nation.