I was referring to the "thinking" behind that sentiment. Usually that thinking also tends to go with other types of body-based determinism
. So I was equating the two in order to cause khujli. Jambudvipa ji thanks for taking the bait. Are you casteist?
devesh wrote:if we start liquidating "casteists", my estimate is that we have to get rid of at least 20% of the population. all the elites of the brahmin/ruling/land-owning/kshatriya/and also some other groups, and their close subordinates/allies.
do we really want to take this discussion down that path?!?!
Just because its 20% doesn't mean its alright. And I hope you don't really think I was suggesting liquidating populations. I was being sarcastic. But we certainly need to think about how to re-educate and change ways of thinking. Rather, I often see people spending their energy coming up with expert justifications of casteism, since it appears to be deeply ingrained in sections of society at this point in history.
Secondly, I think you know what I mean by "casteist" -- not someone whose identity includes family and clan, but rather someone who considers one to be superior to another in some pre-determined way, and who thinks of social equations based mainly on that.
devesh wrote:if at some point we think it is necessary to do some culling, it has to be very selective and the knife has to be sharp and acute.
That is true. That is for those whom power has driven into addictive sociopathy, and who act as funnels or instigators for many more potentially like them.
Interestingly, that there is a genuine sentiment in the Veda that calls Indra for help in liquidating those crackpots who wield power by virtue of being high-born, esotericists, TFTA, chosen ones, etc, and who instigate or mobilize large numbers of orcs when favourable:
To him, Adhvaryu! yea, to him give offerings of the juice expressed.
Will he not keep us safely from the spiteful curse of each presumptuous high-born foe?
Give up the people who are high and haughty to these men and to me, O Thunder-wielder!
Therefore upon the earth do we invoke thee, where heroes win, for sons and kine and waters.
This "high-born foe is apparently the "Dasyu", who often lead the "Dasas".