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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 05 Dec 2013 06:39

Green on Green Intra Mohammadden religion based sectarian violence in Karachi leads to deaths of those belonging to Shia Mohammadden groups namely the MWM and Payam-e-Wilayat:

13 dead as Karachi violence spirals out of control

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 10 Dec 2013 19:31

Hat tip Anup Misra.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, Green on Green Intra Mohammadden persecution sees bookstall selling religious literature of the minority Shia sect closed due to pressure by co-religionists belonging to the majority Sunni sect of Mohammaddenism :

Karachi Int’l Book Fair allows Takfiri Jihadi literature, bans Shia Islamic books

More in an earlier article :

Karachi Int’l Book Fair allows Takfiri Jihadi literature, bans Shia Islamic books

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby Lilo » 16 Dec 2013 09:54

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kish wrote:quote="anupmisra"Sunny Mob Kills Fruit Vendor Because Fruit Found Wrapped In Koran Pages .

an angry mob killed a man and wounded three others in the southwestern city of Quetta over the desecration of a Koran.
found a crate of Iranian-grown pomegranates
An angry mob quickly formed and began shouting slogans against Shi'a
a gunbattle broke out at Liaquat Bazar that left one dead and three injured
hundreds of Sunni men from Ahl-e Sunnat Waljamaat, a conservative Islamist party, were on the streets of Quetta
the fruit arrived from Iran already wrapped in the Koran pages


Must have been pages from a sunny koran. Smells like a conspiracy. AoA indeed./quote

:lol: For pakis anything written right to left which looks like either persian/arabic script is quran. Eventually, it turns out to be persian poetry.

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Jhujar wrote:http://www.dawn.com/news/1074095/british-ahmadi-doctor-jailed-in-pakistan-for-posing-as-muslim

British Ahmadi doctor jailed in Pakistan for 'posing as Muslim'

( May be he can convert now in JAIL, globally favorite and famous spot for such activity)

LAHORE: A 72-year-old British doctor is in prison in Pakistan for “posing as a Muslim”, charges that reveal an escalating ideological fight that often spills over into violence.Some clerics promise that killing Ahmadis earns a place in heaven. Leaflets list their home addresses.Ahmad was arrested in Pakistan's eastern city of Lahore last month when two men posing as patients questioned him about his faith and used mobile phones to secretly record him reading a verse from the Holy Quran.
One of his accusers, religious teacher Muhammad Ihsan, told Reuters that Ahmad had preached to them illegally.A bank clerk was arrested for wearing a ring with a Quranic verse and an entire family was charged for writing a Muslim greeting on a wedding invitation.“We would not have a problem with them if they did not use the name of Islam and the symbols of Islam,” said Tahir Ashrafi, head of the powerful Ulema Council of clerics.“We are against the killing of any innocent... Such attacks are not acceptable or allowed, but if they break the law, we have a right to go to the police,” he said.[ :eek: /b]
“His children watched him die”Rafiatta, who asked her last name not be used, moved to Rabwa after gunmen killed her husband in 2010 in front of their young children.
Ahmadi publications are banned in Bangladesh, where a festival site was torched earlier this year.
In Britain, Ahmadi buildings have been vandalised and leaflets have appeared forbidding them to enter shops and urging Muslims to kill them, British media have reported.But Pakistan is the epicentre of persecution.Last April, a 25-year-old hospital clerk and his father were at home in Lahore reading an Ahmadi newspaper when a crowd broke down their door, the clerk said.They beat the two and looted their home. Then a gunman forced the pair into a car without license plates, the clerk said. He asked not to be named for fear of retribution.[b]Their kidnappers went free but the two were eventually charged with impersonating Muslims in special anti-terrorist courts designed to combat the Taliban.
The clerk was released after a month, but his father, who has not yet been convicted, has been in prison for nine months.The family has since fled their home and the man now occupying it is refusing to pay them for it.“Nobody has the courage to give him bail or dismiss the case,” the clerk said.
And that's what Masood Ahmad's family fears. He has had three bail hearings. One was picketed by scores chanting anti-Ahmadi slogans and his frightened lawyer skipped the next two. British authorities are giving him consular assistance.His son, one of seven children in Britain and Australia, said the family suspected someone was trying to steal his father's dispensary.“I feel so angry because I can't do anything from here,”said 39-year-old Abbas Ahmad, a cab driver in Glasgow. “It's awful to know that people were plotting against someone you love.”

Anujan wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/646076/religious-leader-shot-dead-in-lahore/
Unknown gunmen on a motorbike opened fire on Allama Nasir Abbas’s vehicle at Canal Road near FC College, critically injuring him. Abbas’s driver, Munawar Hussain, took him to the Shaikh Zaid Hospital, where doctors pronounced him dead.

The attack on the leader triggered widespread protests across the city. The protesters did not let the police to shift the body to mortuary for autopsy and had been saying they they would took the body in front of governor house to record their protest. SP Model Town tried to convince the protesters to let them shift the body but till filing of this news the police could not convince the protesters. No FIR so far can be registered as no application in this regard is filed with the police.

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partha wrote:Express Tribune, the so called liberal news paper omits the fact that the religious leader was a Shia.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 17 Dec 2013 17:19

If you are an Ahmadi...., lets count the number of ways we papistanis love you.

British Ahmadi doctor jailed in Papistan for 'posing as Muslim'

License:
A 1984 Pakistani law declared them non-Muslims, and Ahmadis can be jailed for three years for posing as a Muslim or outraging Muslims' feelings.


Result:
Three years ago, 86 Ahmadis were killed in two simultaneous attacks on Friday prayers in Lahore
And legal prosecutions are on the rise, say Ahmadis, some of which they say are linked to property grabs
Ahmad was arrested in Pakistan's eastern city of Lahore last month when two men posing as patients questioned him about his faith and used mobile phones to secretly record him reading a verse from the Holy Quran
you are like a father to me, please help me with some questions,” said the doctor's older brother, Nasir Ahmad. “When (my brother) answered, they began beating him and dragged him outside by his neck
Ahmad had preached to them illegally
A bank clerk was arrested for wearing a ring with a Quranic verse
an entire family was charged for writing a Muslim greeting on a wedding invitation
Clerics have twice sought the arrest of an entire town of Ahmadis, 60,000 people
We would not have a problem with them if they did not use the name of Islam and the symbols of Islam
We are against the killing of any innocent...(read: only real malsi are innocent)
a 25-year-old hospital clerk and his father were at home in Lahore reading an Ahmadi newspaper when a crowd broke down their door...the two were eventually charged with impersonating Muslims
Pakistan is the epicentre of persecution

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby Lalmohan » 17 Dec 2013 17:22

its amazing how they have the technology to detect that someone is reading a blaspheming newspapers behind brick walls... maybe it was the djinns again?

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby vishvak » 17 Dec 2013 20:36

Paki technology seems to be:
1) declare someone under kooofffr label.
2) ask him questions about knowledge of Quran.
3) Call a mob and kill him under cover of mob shouting anti-kaafir slogans or rage or stone throwing.
4) Berate the dead man to make his murder legitimate. Kill anyone protesting same way. Clerics will ignore murder and claim how the murdered were in the wrong under kooofffr excuse.
5) Keep police under control by force or some other way.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 15 Jan 2014 21:23

X Posted from the “Oppression Of Minorities In Pakistan” thread.

A roundup of Green on Green Intra Mohammadden persecution in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent which sees Mohammaddens of the Shia sect being predated upon by co-religionists of the Sunni sect on religious grounds.Washington Post article titled “Sectarian killings soar in Pakistan, raising fears of regional spillover”:

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 22 Jan 2014 11:43

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pankajs wrote:dna ‏@dna 36m

Bomb hits Pakistani bus full of Shi'ite pilgrims, 22 dead http://dnai.in/c37Z
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A bomb ripped through a bus full of Shi'ite pilgrims in western Pakistan and killed at least 22 people on Tuesday, police said, extending a spate of sectarian attacks that have shaken the South Asian nation. :lol:

The bomb exploded near a bus carrying pilgrims returning from neighouring Iran to their home city of Quetta in Pakistan, officials said. At least 20 people were wounded, said the assistant police commissioner for Mastung district, Shafqat Anwar Shawani, and many of the victims were women and children.

The attack occurred about 55 km (35 miles) southwest of Quetta, the provincial capital. Sectarian attacks are on the increase in Pakistan, where minority Shi'ites make up about 20 percent of the 180 million people. Human Rights Watch said more than 400 Shi'ites were killed in 2013.


The death toll of this particular instance of Green on Green Intra Mohammadden religion inspired sectarian violence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, by way of a demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan, rises to 28 :

At least 28 killed in suicide attack on pilgrims' bus in SW Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 22 Jan 2014 11:48

On Monday a Shia Mohammadden Cleric was gunned down in Peshawar:

Shia scholar gunned down in Peshawar: police

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jan 2014 10:53

An unending blitz on Shia hazaras - Meena Menon, The Hindu
For many Shia Hazaras, there is a sense of déjà vu after the bombing of the bus in Mastung in Balochistan which killed over 20 pilgrims returning from Iran. Protests are being staged since Wednesday across the country in support of mourners who are sitting with coffins of the dead on Alamdar Road in Quetta refusing to bury them till justice was done and the attackers were punished.

In Islamabad too, protesters were up all night in continuing solidarity with the victims. Activist Rehana Hashmi of the Sisters Trust Pakistan said, “We die every day when we hear such reports of killings.” The state has been kidnapped by the elements who are carrying out these strikes, she added. Human rights campaigner Tahira Abdullah said, “It’s like déjà vu all over again. Last January, I sat with the Shia Hazaras on Alamdar road for four nights after nearly 100 Shias were killed. A year later, we are back and the coffins are lying around on the road waiting for some response from the government.”

Ms. Abdullah said people all over the country were holding protests in solidarity with the victims of the recent blast and to condemn this genocide of the Hazara community. She said over 50,000 members of the community were killed over a period and it doesn’t let up.

The protesters shouted slogans against the militant outfit responsible for the killings. Faisal (name changed), a Hazara Shia, had to move to the capital since it had become difficult to live in Quetta. He said, “They killed our community in Afghanistan and drove us out and now here too we cannot live in peace. My children cannot go to school since they blast buses and we can’t even go to the bazaar.” He sold his shop and plans to set up a small business here.

In Quetta, the community is confined to Hazara Town and Alamdar Road, said another social activist. “It’s been happening since 11 years and we have lost so many lives. My community is in a miserable condition, it is psychologically ill, socially isolated and economically finished,” she pointed out.

There was no security either and during a major blast in Kirani road in Quetta last year a tanker full of explosives had made it through six check posts, she added.

Even though people covered their faces in public or wore dark glasses, they were still targeted.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 29 Jan 2014 21:48

Wire service The Associated Press on the obnoxious Mohammadden religion inspired blasphemy law prevalent in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and its use to oppress minority Mohammadden sects and Non-Mohammaddens:

Blasphemy law used against minorities in Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 29 Jan 2014 22:00

arun wrote:On Monday a Shia Mohammadden Cleric was gunned down in Peshawar:

Shia scholar gunned down in Peshawar: police


A week on, Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion inspired violence sees a Cleric of the minority Shia sect of Mohammaddenism being gunned down in Punjab province or in deference to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Arab fantasies, Bunjab province. For a country claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan certainly has a voracious appetite for the blood of Mohammaddens :

Shia leader shot dead in Khanpur

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 30 Jan 2014 20:23

UK’s Telegraph opines that the “rulers” of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan lack the cojones to pardon those that commit blasphemy against Mohammaddenism for fear that their “more pure” co-citizens will have them bull cutletted:

Pakistan's rulers are too afraid of Islamist extremists to pardon the 'blaspheming' Briton

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 05 Feb 2014 14:05

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, Green on Green Intra Mohammadden violence sees members of the minority Shia sect suffer two attacks by co-religionists belonging to the majority Sunni sect of Mohammaddenism in Peshawar.

In the first attack, a leader of the Shia rights group the Tehrik-e-Nafaz-e-Fiqah-e-Jafaria is targeted:

Shiite leader shot dead in northwest Pakistan

In the second attack, a Shia run charity hotel next to a Shia Mosque aka Imambargah is targeted by way of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan:

Suicide blast targeting Shiites kills eight in Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby member_19686 » 18 Feb 2014 06:38

Tarek Fatah @TarekFatah Feb 12
Taliban order pagan tribe in northern Pakistan to convert to Islam or die. Same threat issued to area's Ismailis.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1086564/pakist ... in-chitral

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 23 Feb 2014 14:11

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe-haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, Green on Green Intra Mohammadden persecution sees member of the minority Shia sect shot dead on the Mohammadden Sabbath of Friday in Kohat:

Shia leader shot dead in Kohat


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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 18 Mar 2014 19:08

X-post from TSP thread on the recent burning down of a Hindu Temple in Larkana and slapping ablasphemy case against a Hindu youngster.
From DT Edit
In this particular case, reports suggest that the allegation against the Hindu boy was made to prevent him pursuing a First Information Report (FIR) about a robbery at his house a few days earlier. The culprits were probably known to the man and apparently demanded he withdraw his case, otherwise they would accuse him of blasphemy. Most disturbingly, it seems as though the allegation was widely publicised via mobile phone texts and was broadcast on a local television station as well.

The range of institutional failures this incident represents is manifest. Reports say that gangs of young men on motorcycles formed the bulk of the mob; young, unemployed, frustrated men with no access to entertainment are historically prone to violence, and their participation is one aspect. The local television channel, if it broadcast the allegation, is representative of a puerile, irresponsible media. Participation of, and coordination by, local Muslim clerics can’t be ruled out, given growing religiosity and clerical power in the rural areas as well as past instances of their culpability.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 18 Mar 2014 23:58

Mob targets temples, gurdwaras in Pak over alleged blasphemy

Angry mob attempted to set ablaze Hindu temples and Sikh gurdwaras in a southwestern Pakistan province over alleged desecration of a holy book in Sindh, local media reported today.
Protests were held across Balochistan yesterday. The mob set afire a number of shops in Jaffarabad.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 26 Mar 2014 13:19

High Rise, Low Blow - Edit, DT
Sindh’s ancient Hindu community is facing attack from several quarters at once, the fact notwithstanding that the Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) currently running Sindh is supposed to be the most religiously tolerant and liberal party in the country. This year alone, the Hindu community of Thari desert nomads was ravaged by drought-induced famine; last week a Hindu temple in Larkana, the PPP’s stronghold, was set ablaze by rampaging mobs after accusations of blasphemy were levelled against a Hindu. The incident occurred over the Hindu festival of Holi and one sociopath also took the opportunity to mix acid with the dye that Hindus throw on each other during the festival, sending several people to hospital. Now this week, the Supreme Court (SC) has taken suo motu notice of the potential destruction of a 150-year-old temple in Karachi at the hands of property developers building an underpass meant to connect the new Bahria Town high-rise with the main road near Clifton beach. Hindu activists are protesting that these construction activities will tear the temple apart.

The issue here, however, is not religious targeting of Hindus but the fact that they can be ignored as part of Pakistan’s underprivileged and disenfranchised religious minorities. The controversy surrounding the development is deeper than just construction of the underpass, which raises its own questions. The development is allegedly being made on evacuee property that belongs to the government as part of a trust. Area residents say most of the land belonged to local Hindus who fled during partition. Besides, it is strange that a private developer is being allowed to construct infrastructure such as the underpass when this is the government’s responsibility. Moreover, why the construction of the underpass is being undertaken without proper environmental and other impact assessments is another question. It could be that rules are being bent or broken in favour of the private developer, one of the biggest real estate tycoons in the country and a controversial figure. The Chief Justice of Pakistan has ordered an impact report within the next two weeks, but Hindu activists say the damage will be done by then. The just thing for the Supreme Court to do is issue an immediate stay order halting construction until all the controversies surrounding the project are sorted out. More importantly, efforts must be made to protect the rights of Hindus and other minorities because they are a sacred trust of the state. *

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 28 Mar 2014 06:46

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, more grist to the mill of the Mohammadden penchant for oppressing the “Kaafir” “Dhimmis” of other religions, in this particular case a follower of Christism:

Pakistan court sentences Christian man to death for blasphemy

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby raj.devan » 30 Mar 2014 09:29

http://indianexpress.com/article/world/ ... -pakistan/

A Hindu temple has been desecrated and set on fire by unidentified persons in Pakistan’s southern Sindh province, two weeks ahead of an annual fair at the holy site. The caretaker of the temple of Hindu deity Hanuman, in Latifabad town told police that three men came on Friday to offer prayers.

“But after offering prayers they first broke a statue of Hanuman and then sprayed kerosene oil and set it on fire,” said a police official. Darshan, the interim caretaker of the temple, said the attackers ran away when he called for help.

The miscreants had covered their faces, thus could not be identified, he added. The attack came weeks ahead of the April 14 fair organised at the temple every year. Around 500-600 scheduled caste Hindu families inhabit the locality the temple is situated in. They staged protests at several places in the city.

The initial investigations suggest the attack is not related to any communal strife. The local Deputy Superintendent of Police and Station House Officer have been suspended and an FIR has been lodged against three unidentified attackers, said DIG Sanaullah Abbassi.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SanjayC » 30 Mar 2014 10:53

This thread just goes to show how foolish Gandhi and Nehru were to have not allowed full transfer of population in 1947 despite Jinnah begging them for it and despite 1/3rd of India being given to Muslims as separate homeland. These idiots with very low IQ, parroting some kind of imaginary utopia, were not only responsible for the mass slaughter of Hindus at Partition time, by not allowing full population transfer they also made sure that Hindus will keep suffering for the next 100 years -- We suffer in India because of riots, bomb blasts and harassment of Hindu girls in Muslim-majority areas, Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh suffer too due to genocide and forced abduction of girls by Muslims. These two cretins are the real villains.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 02 Apr 2014 07:22

Ahmedi man held for ‘desecrating’ Quran amid rampage

A number of residents of various localities of Tando Allahyar city and activists of religious parties took to the streets against alleged desecration of the Holy Quran and attacked the home-cum-worship place of a man belonging to the Ahmedi community for his involvement in the alleged sacrilege.
A heavy contingent of police and Rangers arrived at the spot and detained Mr Ahmed while protesters threw stones at the suspect and injured him.
According to sources, it was rumoured that some people wanted to grab Tahir’s house.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 03 Apr 2014 12:29

Towards Insanity - Edit in DT
What has happened to the minorities in Pakistan over the last few months could not be taken as spontaneous or scattered events. The burning down of temples, the instant verdict of a death sentence in Sawan Masih’s case and now the arrest of Tahir Ahmed, an Ahmedi, on the charge of desecrating the Quran indicates that a concentrated, manipulated and motivated effort is underway to create an atmosphere of intolerance and harassment against the minorities, particularly in Sindh and generally in Pakistan. Not that we are not familiar with the pattern that rages against the minorities or even at times against Muslims on charges of blasphemy. However, the rise in tension and the ensuing traction within the ranks of the clerics is disturbing to say the least. The signs indicate that Pakistan is apace towards a future that has no place for divergent religious views leave alone people from different religions and sects. Pakistan’s religious culture has always had a strong imprint of Sufism that inherently preaches tolerance, patience and congeniality.
The history of the subcontinent had been an account of coexistence between people of different religions and sects. To the Mughal kings and even those famous for their ruthlessness against non-Muslims, the idea to create a wedge of differences between communities through extreme interpretations of Islamic values was never implemented. The crux of Sufi Islam and the reason for its popularity in the hybrid ethno-religious culture of the subcontinent was its appeal that threaded Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus together. They celebrated each others’ religious events and respected others’ religious beliefs, notwithstanding the ultra-radical spoilers who could never influence the dominant discourse of tolerance within religions and cultures. Even today the tombs of Sufi saints are frequented by both Muslims and Hindus alike. They are revered by both, not only in India but also in Pakistan. But the imported imprint of Deobandi and Salafi interpretations of Islam and the official backing given to extremist elements for our adventures in Afghanistan have changed the complexion of the religious narrative. On top of all ths, Ziaul Haq’s penchant to Islamize Pakistan has resulted in a legal vacuum that wolfs down the innocent but leaves the wicked untouched.

Jihad was made popular less for its ability to motivate people to struggle and strain against any restriction preventing progress and modernity but as a tool to eliminate those allegedly deviating from the original meanings and rites of Islam. We are killing Ahmedis, Christains, Shias and Muslims for their belief systems and connecting to God in their own ways, while the state amidst all this is sitting silent. In fact the recent wave of appeasement of the terrorists in the name of talks has given a new lease of life to the mullahs. They are now giving their point of view on anything and everything they deem un-Islamic.

Pakistan’s constitution that talks of freedom of religion and protection against religious persecution is conspicuous for its non-implementation. Tahir Ahmed has been arrested on an FIR registered by Qari Ayub on the charge that the former desecrated the Quran held by Qari Ayub’s son Salman. This simple statement was enough to put Tahir behind bars, see his house ransacked, label him a blasphemour and get an FIR registered against him. No evidence was sought to prove the truth or otherwise of Salman’s accusation. Joseph colony’s ashes are being reignited by the injustice that could not verify the conversation between Sawan Masih and his Muslim friend in which the formerer is alleged to have disrespected Prophet Muhammad (PBUH). While Sawan has been sentenced to death (against which he has now appealed to the Lahore High Court), no one so far has been punished for burning down the temples, forcing the Hindus to leave their abodes in Sindh.

This is a malady that requires the government to wake up and listen to the ominous call of the religious disorder that could turn the country into an insane asylum. *

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 24 Apr 2014 17:16

ET article on the subject of Green on Green intra-Mohammadden religion motivated sectarian killings in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country claimed to have been created as a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, over the past 5 years:

Sectarian violence: Over 2,000 people killed in 5 years, Interior Ministry tells Senate

Reading the above ET article made me realise that I had over the past five years come across no such similar instances of internecine killings in other religious groups such as Buddhists, Christists, Hindus, Jains or Jews over issues of interpretation of religion anywhere in the world. Can anyone thus enlighten if there were similar cases over the past five years anywhere in the world, of Hinayana Buddhists killing Mahayana Buddhists or vice versa, or Catholic Christists killing Protestant Christists or vice versa, or Shivite Hindus killing Vaishnavite Hindus or vice versa, or Digamber Jains killing Shwetamber Jains or vice versa, or Ashkanazie Jews killing Sephardic Jews or Vice versa; all over differences of interpretation of their respective religions? Or is it that the Mohammaddenism is somehow a special lone case among the world’s religions when it comes to the matter of killing co-religionists over interpretation of own religion?

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 25 Apr 2014 15:09

Footprints: Conversion by choice or force

The madressah has converted 150 men and women in the past three years, says the person managing its administrative affairs. Rani is the first one to be converted this year
She used to sell clothes near our home in Jano Bhelo village while I’m a labourer and own a donkey. One day she told me she wants to marry me, and loves Islam, so we decided to marry


Just like that.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 29 Apr 2014 12:55

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan scores heavily in the “People Under Threat” 2014 Index. The “Peoples under Threat” index identifies those countries around the world where communities face the greatest risk of genocide, mass killing or systematic violent repression.

In 2014 the Islamic Republic of Pakistan came in within the 10 highest rated countries at 7th position being beaten by Somalia, Sudan, Syria, D.R.Congo, Afghanistan and Iraq and in turn beating out Myanmar, Ethiopia and Yemen.

Interestingly Pakistan which had been vociferously complaining about human rights violations in Myanmar was rated worse than Myanmar. 7 of the 10 highest rated countries are preponderantly made up of adherents of Mohammaddenism.

Extract from the report regards the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

While the deadly conflict in Pakistan with Islamist armed groups in the north-west draws most international media attention, the threat of ethnic or sectarian killing reaches across the country. This includes risks from interethnic political violence in Sindh, sectarian clashes between Deobandi and Barelvi militant groups, violent repression of Baluchi activists in Baluchistan, continued persecution of Christians and Ahmadiyya, and an exterminatory campaign against Hazara and other Shi’a across the country waged by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Pakistani Taliban, which claimed the lives of hundreds of victims last year.


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Peoples under Threat 2014

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby Prem » 02 May 2014 05:51

]Forced conversions in the land of the pure STFU[/b]

Yeh Batteh Wohi Purani, Kehti Hai Wohi islamic kahani


Forced conversions of Hindu girls in the land of the pure commenced in the 1970s or, to be more specific, at the time when our former prime minister, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, ruled the country. It should also be noted that forced conversions, where the ‘immature and mature’ Hindu girls would be converted against their will, would rarely surface in interior Sindh at the time of Mr Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s government.When the dictator General Ziaul Haq (1977 to 1988) toppled Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s government in a military coup in 1977, he largely altered the educational curriculum in the country, teaching us intolerance towards other religious minorities, particularly the Hindus. During the dictatorial days of General Ziaul Haq, our textbooks fostered prejudice against the Hindus and often portrayed them as inferior along with other religious minorities. Also, the religious minorities were described as extremists and very little reference in the textbooks was made to the role played by them. As a result, forced conversions of Hindu girls also began to intensify during the same period. And, to this day, it has been going on with celerity in the land of the pure.
In the past, forced conversions of Hindu girls would not garner such attention because the media was not free. However, cases in recent years have been coming under discussion in the national media. An example is the case of Rinkle Kumari, which was taken up at the highest level by the Supreme Court (SC) of Pakistan through a suo motu notice. Interestingly, it happened at a time when the media highlighted her case.What is more astounding is the recent report issued by the Movement for Solidarity and Peace in Pakistan (MSP). It reported that as many as 1,000 girls, aged 12 to 25, 70 percent of them Hindu and 30 percent Christian, are abducted yearly, forcefully converted to Islam by their captors, married off to men who usually rape them and, simultaneously, force them into prostitution and human trafficking. More so, the people behind these inhumane and barbaric practices have not been brought to book by our government. Our founder, Muhammmad Ali Jinnah, promised the minorities their due rights. Our constitution too promises them protection but, despite this, they have been living under siege.Although forced conversions of Hindu and Christian girls are constantly on the rise in Sindh and Punjab, these cases are gradually and slowly gripping the other two remaining provinces: Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. For instance, Leela Ram, daughter of Kundan Das, was forcefully married off to a man who abducted her and later on converted her. Besides Leela Ram, there have been eight more cases of forced conversions of Hindu girls in various districts of Balochistan.Tahir Hussain Khan, who is the head of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) in Balochistan, said that he himself has handled one of the cases of forced conversion of a Hindu girl called Neenam Kumari in court. Peshawar, the provincial capital of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, also witnessed Hindu schoolteacher Sapna Rani’s forced abduction when she was returning home. A man put an intoxicant-doused cloth over her mouth and she fainted. She was rescued after two weeks of her abduction by the police but her abductors escaped. Hindu girls’ education on all levels is affected by these forced conversions. One Hindu doctor, who requested not to be named, told this writer, “Despite knowing the value and significance of education, we cannot send our daughters to schools and colleges due to the fear of forced conversions. They are sitting at home despite having a great penchant for education.”

The HRCP has raised concerns over forced conversions and has warned of an increase in such cases in its report, ‘Perils of Faith’. It has also stated in its report that Pakistan’s Hindu community, unlike other religious communities, does not have a codified Hindu personal law in Pakistan that they can follow to regulate matters such as marriage, divorce, etc. In the absence of a codified Hindu personal law for the marriages of Hindu women, there have been cases where already married Hindu women have been converted. Sadly, the families of married Hindu women had no proof that would persuade the court that they were already married.The number of forced conversions of our religious minorities, particularly the Hindus, is intensifying in the land of the pure. Also, in the past, cases of forced conversions only surfaced in Sindh. Now, however, these incidents are taking place in every nook and corner of the country. The government needs to take notice of the forced conversions of its minority communities. They are not only peaceful and love their country but have also contributed to its prosperity since inception.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 02 May 2014 18:44

X Posted from the STFUP thread.

arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan scores heavily in the “People Under Threat” 2014 Index. The “Peoples under Threat” index identifies those countries around the world where communities face the greatest risk of genocide, mass killing or systematic violent repression.

In 2014 the Islamic Republic of Pakistan came in within the 10 highest rated countries at 7th position being beaten by Somalia, Sudan, Syria, D.R.Congo, Afghanistan and Iraq and in turn beating out Myanmar, Ethiopia and Yemen.

Interestingly Pakistan which had been vociferously complaining about human rights violations in Myanmar was rated worse than Myanmar. 7 of the 10 highest rated countries are preponderantly made up of adherents of Mohammaddenism.

Extract from the report regards the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

While the deadly conflict in Pakistan with Islamist armed groups in the north-west draws most international media attention, the threat of ethnic or sectarian killing reaches across the country. This includes risks from interethnic political violence in Sindh, sectarian clashes between Deobandi and Barelvi militant groups, violent repression of Baluchi activists in Baluchistan, continued persecution of Christians and Ahmadiyya, and an exterminatory campaign against Hazara and other Shi’a across the country waged by Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, Sipah-e-Sahaba and the Pakistani Taliban, which claimed the lives of hundreds of victims last year.


Read it here:

Peoples under Threat 2014


It has been a bad week for the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s pretensions of being entitled to lecture the Non-Mohammadden world on perceived Mohammadden Oppression in Jammu & Kashmir, Palestine, Kosovo, Myanmar and elsewhere owing to her wholly misplaced belief that the Non-Mohammadden world can be conned into believing that the Islamic Republic has an acceptable record on human rights and freedom.

After being cruelly exposed by the “People Under Threat “ report, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan now stands exposed by the “Freedom In The World” report for 2014 put out by Freedom House.

Yet again Freedom House has rated Jammu & Kashmir (P 22) as being freer than not only Pakistan (P 21) but also in Pakistan Occupied J&K (P 22).:

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 17 May 2014 08:29

X Posted.

A dastardly act that does nothing to buttress the claim by followers of Mohammaddenism that their Religion is “The Religion Of Peace”:

Blasphemy accused Ahmadi man gunned down in Punjab

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 17 May 2014 08:34

More Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion based sectarian killing with “minority” Shia Mohammadden sect at the receiving end:

Estate agent killed in ‘sectarian’ attack

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 23 May 2014 17:16

PTI condemns attacks on Sikh Gurdwaras - DT
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has said that all those guilty of violating the sanctity of places of worship and of targeting minorities must be arrested and punished.

“I call on all Pakistanis to show respect and tolerance for each other and for all places of worship,” he said in a message on microblogging twitter website. “We condemn repeated attacks against Sikh places of worship and their holy book in Sindh,” he said.

The PTI leader said that all religious places must be respected and protected. In their protest inside the Parliament House in Islamabad, the protesters informed media that their gurdwaras in Karachi, Shikarpur and some other cities of Sindh province were allegedly being set on fire.

They asked Minister for Interior Affairs Chaudhry Nisar Ali to provide assurances regarding security of their gurdwaras.
The protesters managed to enter the premises of the Parliament House by breaking the gate despite a heavy contingent of police personnel being present at the location.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 23 May 2014 18:06

Sikhs protest attacks on religious sites, desecration of holy book

Dozens of baton-holding protestors from the Sikh community pushed past the front gate and entered the grounds of parliament on Friday
After successful negotiations, the protestors left the grounds of parliament peacefully.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 26 May 2014 18:24

US based Ahmadi doctor on a trip to volunteer, shot dead - DAWN
Gunmen shot dead a doctor from the minority Ahmadi community on Monday in Chenab Nagar town in Punjab province, officials said, the latest attack on the beleaguered group.

Mehdi Ali, a 50-year-old heart surgeon normally based in the United States, was attacked as he visited a cemetery in the town of Chenab Nagar.

“Two gunmen riding on a motorbike shot dead a cardiac surgeon, Dr Mehdi Ali outside the Ahmadi graveyard in Chenab Nagar,” local police official Ahmed Ali told news agency AFP.

He said the incident occurred early on Monday morning when the doctor was going to the graveyard with his family.

“The assailants have fled the scene. We are looking into the incident. It seems to be a targeted attack,” Ali said.

Saleem Uddin, a spokesman for the Ahmadi community, confirmed the incident and said the doctor’s family escaped the attack unharmed.

The doctor was in Pakistan on a short visit to do voluntary work at the Tahir Cardiac Hospital, a private institution that he himself helped build a few years back.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby anupmisra » 26 May 2014 21:45

SSridhar wrote:US based Ahmadi doctor on a trip to volunteer, shot dead - DAWN
Gunmen shot dead a doctor from the minority Ahmadi community on Monday in Chenab Nagar town in Punjab province, officials said, the latest attack on the beleaguered group.


Comments by enlightened pakis:

All Ahmadis in pakistan should carry guns and teach the mullahs and killers a lesson .... Only god can take life and we as humans can defend ourselves and Ahmadis being targeted is not a new thing so wake up Ahmadis and when will you start defending yourselves through adequate weapons ???
Its better the killer is not caught !. Else he will certainly be treated as a hero with garlands, and mosques will be named after him.
Seems a foreign agency wanted a riot like the one in Gujarat today
Time has come to divide the country in to Four and they be named as Punjab, Sindh, Baluchistan and Pakhtunistan.
Only Allah's revenge will bring the culprits to book :rotfl: .

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 27 May 2014 15:32

Sikh Council Gives 5 day deadline to Government for arrest of desecration suspects - DAWN
KARACHI: The Pakistan Sikh Council has warned the government that the community will launch a countrywide protest movement if the all the culprits who had desecrated their holy book, Guru Granth Sahib, are not arrested by May 31.

Speaking at a press conference at Karachi Press Club on Monday, PSC patron in chief Sardar Ramesh Singh demanded that a judicial commission be instituted to investigate how and why all of a sudden such incidents started happening across Sindh.

He said that all the culprits be arrested, tried and awarded stern punishment so that it could act as a deterrence to other unscrupulous elements who might be planning similar acts in future.

He demanded that security be provided to the religious places of minority communities.

Giving details of the incidents in which the copy of their holy book was burnt, he said that the incidents were reported from Dal Darbar in Pano Aqil, Guru Nanak Darbar Mehar in Dadu district, Samadha Ashram, Sajal Sher Jhulelal Darbar and Khatwari Darbar in Shikarpur district. Only this month, similar incidents were reported from Bhagnari Temple in Karachi’s Lea Market and Jai Ram Das Darbar in Madheji, Shikarpur, on May 6 and 7, respectively.

He said that the Sikh community had been living in peace and harmony with other communities in Sindh for centuries and such incidents had never happened in the past. He said the community believed that certain unscrupulous elements in society wanted to create unrest by hurting sentiments of other communities.

He said that Sikhs were as much patriotic as other communities living in Pakistan and did not want to stage protest that could create embarrassment for the country internationally, but they had been pushed to the wall and it was the government’s responsibility to recognise Sikh community’s religious sentiments and provide safety and security to the community and arrest the culprits.

He said the community had also approached the chief justice of Pakistan who had directed the advocate general and additional DIG (legal) on May 13, 2014 that FIRs of all such incidents under Section 295 of the Pakistan Penal Code be produced in court on the next hearing and the culprits be arrested.

He said that community representatives had met Sindh Minister for Religious Minorities Giyan Chand and Senator Hari Ram besides other legislators who had assured them that a meeting of the community leaders with the chief minister would be arranged. However, he added, no such meeting had been arranged so far.

Mr Ramesh expressed the hope that the federal government would keep the promise to the Sikh demonstrators, who had entered the parliament in Islamabad a few days back, that the culprits would be arrested, tried and punished sternly in accordance with the law.

Sardar Karan Singh Rai, Sardar Manjeet Singh, Sardar Saran Singh, Sardar Arjan Singh, Sardar Manmohan Singh and Sardar Bhola Singh were also present at the press conference.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby Philip » 04 Jun 2014 00:18

And now the Brits arrest Altaf Hussain.What's the deal with Pak? Surely it has to do with the British pull out of Afghanistan and reduced US troop strength.Just like Osama,Hussain is being made the "sacrifical goat"!

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 79315.html
The exiled leader of Pakistan's Muttahida Qaumi Movement, Altaf Hussain, has been arrested in London, sending the country's largest city of Karachi into lockdown.

Scotland Yard said a 60-year old man had been arrested on suspicion of money-laundering during an early morning raid on a house in northwest London, but declined to confirm his identity.

A spokesperson for MQM confirmed that Hussain had been arrested but would not provide further details.

UK and Pakistan authorities have expressed concern that his arrest could unleash a wave of violence in the port city of Karachi, home to 18 million people, which he effectively controls from his London office.

Pakistan officials said protesters in Karachi have blocked roads and destroyed at least six buses and a car following reports of Hussain's arrest this morning. State television showed footage of large crowds gathering on the streets on Karachi and the sound of gunfire.

"All shops and markets are shut. Even small cigarette shops are closed," a Karachi resident told Reuters. "Petrol station operators have also closed down, fearing violence."

Known for his impassioned and fiery speeches, Hussain, a British citizen, has lived in self-imposed exile from Pakistan since 1991.


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