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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh

Postby arun » 11 Jan 2010 07:52

Joining the ban on kite flying during Basant and celebrating New Year in 2010 as it coincided with Islamic mourning during the month of Muharram:

Women can’t live alone in rented flats: Peshawar admin

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh

Postby SSridhar » 13 Jan 2010 15:22

arun wrote:Come to think of it, I recollect no reporting of the persecution of Muslims of the Ahmadiyya sect in Pakistan by the Pakistani media for quite some time. I wonder if this because of inattentiveness on my part or if there is a media blackout on reporting atrocities inflicted on Muslims of the Ahmadiyya sect in the Islamic republic of Pakistan ?

Arun, it is certainly not due to inattentiveness on your part. Atrocities committed on Ahmediyyas, Hindus, Sikhs, Shias in certain areas, Chitralis, and inhabitants of Balochistan (whom I consider as minorities in Pakistan though most of them are Muslims) are usually not being reported.

PAKISTAN: A Retired Ahmadi Professor Murdered In Punjab Province
Scoop


I am really surprised that this one got reported. DT even has an editorial on this.
According to a series of reports published in this paper {I have not seen them. May be, the e-Version does not carry all snippets of news items}, Professor Mohammad Yousaf, leader of the Ahmadi community in Ferozewala, had sought police protection against sectarian zealots in his locality who had been threatening him. Allegedly, in response to this, two unidentified assailants shot him dead while he was at his general store. It was with some effort the family managed to lodge the FIR against the two murderers and four abettors known to the victim, who live in the same area. Instead of arresting the accused and investigating further, it is reported that the police let the four abettors go when they visited the police station with PML-N’s member of the Punjab Assembly Pir Ashraf Rasool. Meanwhile, both the police and the nominees in the FIR have been pressurising the family to withdraw the murder case. Alarmingly, even after the ghastly retribution visited upon Mohammad Yousaf, Khatam-e-Nabuwat Youth Wing’s signboard on the main roundabout of the town, which urges believers to kill and maim Islam’s enemies and to socially boycott Ahmadis, has not been removed. {Removing that will amount to blasphemy. Who will order the removal and, more importantly, who will implement the order ?}

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Postby arun » 13 Jan 2010 20:05

Thanks Sridhar. The Daily Times had indeed been diligent in running with the story. Seems I was done in by the difference in spelling of the murdered individual’s surname. “Yusuf’ in the AHRC release I posted as compared with “Yousaf” in the Daily Times.

Anyway, the consequence in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan simply for adhering to a variant of Islam that is followed by a minority is indeed severe. Despite seeking police protection, none was given by the Police and his persecutors took the seeking of Police protection as justification to kill him (Clicky). Now that same Police aided and abetted by a Provincial Parliamentarian, is making life easy for his killers. Talk about twisting the knife!

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Postby arun » 13 Jan 2010 20:14

Even being Muslim is not enough to avoid legally enforced persecution in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

The Economist on the persecution that Muslims belonging to the minority Ahmadiya / Ahmadiyya / Ahmadi sect face in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Pakistan's abused Ahmadis

A mosque by any other name

Jan 13th 2010

From The Economist print edition

Members of the Ahmadiya sect face a new rash of persecution

AS AFZAL TAHIR was reciting the Koran last month, and otherwise minding his own business—an electrical repair shop—four Muslim fundamentalists came to threaten him. If they caught Mr Tahir masquerading as a Muslim again, they said, he would pay for it: with up to three years in prison, which is the penalty for members of the Ahmadiya sect who are convicted of that crime.

Ahmadis consider themselves Muslims, though they differ from the Sunni mainstream on an important point: they believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, the 19th-century Indian who founded their tradition, was a latter-day prophet. In many Muslims’ eyes, this makes them un-Islamic and blasphemous. Pakistan’s Ahmadis, of whom there may be 4m, were declared to be non-Muslims by the government in 1974. In the 1980s, under General Zia ul Haq, a fundamentalist Sunni dictator, most aspects of Ahmadi worship were in effect criminalised—in some cases by blasphemy laws which carry the death penalty.

The Ahmadis are an educated minority, who do well in commerce and produced Pakistan’s first Nobel laureate. But they are not permitted to call their mosque a mosque, nor to issue the Muslim call to prayer, display Koranic inscriptions or otherwise present themselves as Muslims. Under an arrangement re-established by Pervez Musharraf, the country’s most recent military dictator, Ahmadis have a separate voters’ list and parliamentary seats reserved for their candidates. But most Ahmadis choose not to vote at all. And some, including the leader of Lahore’s Ahmadis, Munir Ahmad Sheikh, argue that those holding the reserved seats, having implicitly accepted their status as non-Muslims, are not really Ahmadis at all.

Seated at Lahore’s main Ahmadi mosque—where an engraving of the Kalima, the Muslim profession of faith, has been crudely planked over—Mr Sheikh diagnoses a new outbreak of anti-Ahmadi thuggery. This is a roughly decennial event, he says, and has manifested itself in recent attacks on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore and intensified intimidation of Ahmadi traders. ……………………….

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Postby SSridhar » 14 Jan 2010 18:43

arun wrote:
PAKISTAN: A Retired Ahmadi Professor Murdered In Punjab Province
Scoop


More developments as the police want to give time to the murderers to prove their 'innocence' !!
. . . police have yet to formally arrest the suspects despite getting two chances – when the men visited the police station with PML-N MPA Pir Ashraf Rasool to ‘prove their innocence’.

Syed Amin Bukhari, the SP, told Daily Times that the accused were not on bail and according to the law they should be arrested, but with the consent of the complainant the police had given them a chance to prove their innocence. :rotfl:

The SP said both parties had appeared before him, adding that he had given them a few days to resolve the matter through a local panchayat. He said the accused had guaranteed their cooperation and would not evade the police.

However, Faatehul Din, the complainant and son of the murdered Ahmadi leader, told Daily Times the accused had been given undue favour by the police and PML-N MPA Pir Ashraf Rasool. He said he had never asked the police not to arrest the accused. He said the MPA accompanied the accused to the office of the SP to influence the police.

The MPA told Daily Times that the four men were innocent. He said he had advised the four not to get bails as they were innocent, adding that the competent authority to decide the case were the police and the courts. Ashraf said he was ready to hand over the men to police custody.

Saleemud Din, a spokesperson for the Jamaat-e-Ahmadia, told Daily Times the accused were being given undue favour.

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Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2010 10:22

Some more developments in the murdered Ahmedi Professor's case
The PML-N MPA told Daily Times on Thursday that he presented the four men before Superintendent of Police (Investigation) Amin Bukhari to be taken into custody, but he sent them to Ferozewala Police Station. Rasool denied allegations that he was favouring the alleged murderers or was trying to exert political pressure on police. He said he just wanted to resolve the issue amicably in order to save the people of his constituency the trouble of enduring lengthy litigation. :rotfl: The PML-N MPA said he handed the men over to police once he realised that the deceased’s family did not want an out-of-court settlement.

Sources said the investigation officer (IO) had not presented the accused – Muhammad Ahmed Faridi, Inamullah, Ashraf and Haji Arshad – in court for physical remand.

The complainant said the police told them (Yousaf’s family) it was a police tactic to try getting information out of suspects before presenting them in court for physical remand.

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Postby SSridhar » 19 Jan 2010 18:11

Yet more developments on the above murder case
The ‘arrest’ of four people in connection with an Ahmadi leader’s murder was meant to merely pacify the bereaved family, as police have not made the case against them official, nor have their names been mentioned in any paperwork. In addition, the men are yet to be interrogated, Ferozewala police sources told Daily Times on Monday.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh

Postby arun » 21 Jan 2010 19:30

X Posted.

Not surprising given the genocidal track record of the military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan dating back to 1970-71 in what is now Bangladesh. The minority Pashtun and Baloch at the receiving end from the Punjabi dominated military of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.:

Pakistan: Military Undermines Government on Human Rights

Battling Taliban No Excuse for Complicity in Abusive Counter-terrorism Practices

January 20, 2010

(New York) - Pakistan's military actively undermined the civilian government's human rights agenda in 2009, Human Rights Watch said today in its new World Report 2010.
The 612-page report, the organization's 20th annual review of human rights practices around the globe, summarizes major human rights trends in more than 90 nations and territories worldwide.

The report says that Pakistan's military publicly and privately resisted the government's reconciliation efforts in the troubled province of Balochistan and attempts to locate people "disappeared" there during General Pervez Musharraf's military rule. The military also opposed the international community's attempts to end military intervention in the political and judicial processes through aid conditions.

"The Pakistani military continues to subvert the political and judicial systems in Pakistan," said Ali Dayan Hasan, senior South Asia researcher at Human Rights Watch. "After eight years of disastrous military rule and in spite of the election of a civilian government, the army appears determined to continue calling the shots in order to ensure that it can continue to perpetrate abuses with impunity."

In October, US President Barack Obama signed into law the Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act, promising US$7.5 billion in non-military aid over five years. Known as the Kerry-Lugar Act, the law places conditions on the military component of the aid. This includes a requirement for the US secretary of state to certify, before aid can be delivered, that the Pakistani military is combating terrorism, not engaged in nuclear proliferation, and not "materially and substantially subverting the political or judicial processes of Pakistan."

The Pakistani military led a backlash against these requirements, in an apparent attempt to destabilize the elected government and force the resignation of President Asif Zardari. It publicly rebuked the government for not opposing these conditions and pressed the foreign minister to travel to Washington to ease them.

"For constitutional rule to take root in Pakistan, the military needs to accept the primacy of civilian rule," said Hasan. "The military needs to recognize that it no longer runs the show in Pakistan."

Human Rights Watch said that Pakistan's civilian government took a major step forward in December by formally acknowledging serious human rights abuses against the Baloch, including the enforced disappearance of hundreds of people during eight years of military rule, and announcing a reconciliation process in the troubled province. However, the military has blocked attempts by the government to locate the "disappeared" and continues to exercise sway over the province, muzzling the local media and using its intelligence agencies to undermine the provincial and federal government's reconciliation efforts.

There were new reports of torture and arbitrary detention of Baloch nationalists at the hands of the military's intelligence agencies, and targeted killings by Baloch nationalists of non-Baloch settlers also spiked sharply, Human Rights Watch said.

Hundreds of Pakistanis were killed in dozens of suicide and bomb attacks perpetrated by Taliban and al-Qaeda affiliated groups. The attacks targeted civilians, political leaders, educational institutions, hospitals, and marketplaces. These armed groups also continued to recruit and use children, including for suicide attacks.

"The Taliban's actions amount to war crimes, and the Pakistan government should use all legal means possible to hold them accountable for these heinous abuses," Hasan said. "But Taliban atrocities are no justification for new laws that violate fundamental rights or unlawful counter-terrorism operations by Pakistani and US forces."

The government's response to militant attacks routinely violated basic rights, Human Rights Watch said. Hundreds were detained in a nationwide crackdown on militant groups, particularly in the conflict zones in Swat and the tribal areas. Many of these suspects were detained in two military facilities in Swat, one in the Khyber agency of the tribal areas, and at least one more in Northwest Frontier Province. The military has not allowed independent monitors access to most of these detainees.

Since September 2008, US aerial drones are believed to have carried out dozens of missile attacks on suspected militant hideouts in Pakistan's tribal areas, killing hundreds of civilians in addition to alleged militants, and prompting allegations that US attacks have violated the laws of war. The areas of the attacks are generally inaccessible to independent monitors, making it difficult to assess the allegations, Human Rights Watch said.

In October, the government amended the country's anti-terrorism laws through presidential ordinance to curtail further the legal rights of terrorism suspects. Under the ordinance, suspects can be placed in preventive detention for 90 days without judicial review or the right to post bail. Confessions to the police or military are admissible as evidence thought Pakistan's police and the military's intelligence services routinely torture suspects.

Other human rights concerns include the breakdown of law enforcement in the face of terrorism across the country, the failure of the judiciary to transform its newfound independence into non-partisan dispensation of justice, military abuses in operations in the tribal areas and Swat, and discriminatory laws against and mistreatment of religious minorities and women.

"Pakistan's elected government took several political and legal steps to improve human rights protections in the country in 2009," Hasan said. "However, serious challenges remain unaddressed, and the government's soaring rhetoric on rights remains unmatched by commensurate actions. This year should be a year of action, not just words."

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Postby SSridhar » 22 Jan 2010 12:57

Continuing case of the murdered Ahmedi professor
The four men accused of murdering Professor Muhammad Yousaf, an Ahmadi leader from Ferozewala, have claimed that the man’s family has offered to withdraw the case against them if the Khatam-e-Nabuwat Youth Wing (KNYW) is shut down. Muhammad Ahmed Faridi, Inamullah – the president of the KNYW — Ashraf and Haji Arshad, all currently being held at the Ferozwala Police Station, told Daily Times on Thursday that the complainant had sent them various messages, offering to withdraw the case against them provided that the men guaranteed that they quit the KNYW and dismantled its operations, a claim that the complainant denies. Faridi said Inamullah had been “indirectly” contacted by the complainant, with an offer to withdraw the case against the men if they would quit the KNYW. They said they would never quit the KNYW, going as far as saying that they would prefer to die before they thought of leaving the organisation. Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz Member of the Provincial Assembly Pir Ashraf Rasool, who is allegedly favouring the accused, told Daily Times that the complainant had asked him to offer the compromise to the accused. He said the accused had informed him that they were ready to face imprisonment or even the death sentence for the sake their beliefs. Fatehul Din, Yousaf’s son, told Daily Times that no one had made any such offer to the four men, adding that the accused were trying to divert attention from the real issue. He said they were trying to gain sympathy in the public and were trying to fuel public bias against Ahmadis.{Absolutely}

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Postby arun » 23 Jan 2010 09:16

Shocking that in this day and age that the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan continues to have on its statute books barbarous laws that permit collective punishment and further actually enforces such collective punishment.

Here is a news item of a case of collective punishment inflicted by the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the minority Pashtun / Pathan including a teenage student who I would estimate on the basis of class attended to be around 15 years old.

Most interestingly the dominant Punjabis of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are immune from the legally sanctioned depredations of this law. Talk about discriminating against minorities!

55 tribesmen held in VC’s kidnapping case

Saturday, January 23, 2010
By By our correspondent

DARRA ADAMKHEL: Under the collective responsibility clause of the Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR), the political administration has arrested 55 tribesmen so far in connection with the kidnapping of Dr Lutfullah Kakakhel, Vice-Chancellor of the Kohat University of Science and Technology (KUST), sources said on Thursday.

…………… The arrests were made following the Supreme Court’s order for the recovery of the kidnapped VC. The process of arrests has been continuing since December 2009 and some of the arrested persons were identified as Muhammad Umar, a student of 9th Class, Haji Abdullah, Nadir Khan and two sons of Dadu. ……………………

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Postby arun » 30 Jan 2010 07:56

Three Shia Muslim on pilgrimage killed and 5 others injured in what the Police of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan believe is a case of Muslim on Muslim sectarian violence

For a self proclaimed homeland for South Asia’s Muslim the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is certainly an insecure place for minority Muslim sects:

3 Zaireen shot dead in Quetta

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Postby arun » 30 Jan 2010 17:11

Being a follower of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s majority religion, Islam, besides being a member of the majority Sunni Islamic sect, is not enough to protect the Baloch ethno-linguistic minority.

Peter Tatchell in the UK’s Guardian on the oppression being meted out by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to their fellow Muslim but minority Baloch population:

Pakistan the oppressor

It is little surprise that Baloch nationalist leaders have rejected the latest peace package proposed by Islamabad

Peter Tatchell
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 28 January 2010 20.30 GMT

A series of massacres of peaceful protesters by Pakistani security forces look set to sink hopes of a settlement deal between the government in Islamabad and Baloch nationalists who are campaigning for self-rule. There are fears that the sinister, shadowy Pakistani military and intelligence agencies are behind these killings, in a deliberate attempt to sabotage the reconciliation package put forward by the government of President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani.

On 15 January, at least two Baloch political activists were shot dead and four others seriously wounded after Pakistani security forces opened fire on a peaceful protest organised by the Baloch Students Organisation (BSO) in the Khuzdar district of Balochistan. The rally had been called to protest against the recent murder of Baloch citizens in Karachi and the launching of a new military crackdown in Pakistani annexed and occupied Balochistan.

The shootings are the latest of many killings of Baloch protesters and nationalist leaders. They've been targeted because of their support for the six-decades-long campaign of resistance against Pakistan's invasion and subjugation of their homeland.

In September last year, Pakistani forces opened fire on a public gathering at Tump High School in Balochistan, killing a 20-year-old political activist, Mukhtar Baloch, and wounding 27 others, including four women and a six-year-old child. Five members of the BSO were arrested at the scene and taken to unknown locations. Watch this mobile phone footage of the attack – the shooting begins just over four minutes into the film.

A similar Pakistani military assault on a peaceful Baloch rally took place in January 2009 in Turbat. A month later at Dashte Goran the army attacked a wedding party, killing 13 people, including the bride, groom, six family members and the wedding officiator. A total of 21 people were injured – the majority of them women.

Rasool Bux Mengal, joint secretary of the Baloch National Movement (BNM), was abducted from Uthal last August. His tortured dead body, slashed and covered in cigarette burns, was found hanging from a tree. The intention was clear: to terrorise and intimidate the Baloch people. Mengal was the second BNM leader murdered in the last year. In April 2009, the body of Ghulam Mohammad, chair of the BNM, was found partly decomposed in a vat of toxic chemicals.

In October last year, Baloch medical students were beaten up and arrested by Pakistani forces in a raid on the Bolan Medical College. The same month, 11 innocent civilians, including women and children, were killed in the Dera Bugti district by Pakistan army bombardments. …………………….


Read it all:

Pakistan the oppressor

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Postby arun » 05 Feb 2010 17:03

IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan targeting the minority Shia sect reported in Karachi on the Muslim Sabbath of Friday:

Bomb attack targets Shia Muslims in Karachi

Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:56:16 GMT

At least 11 people have been killed and forty other wounded in Pakistan's largest city when a bomber targeted a bus packed with Shia Muslim mourners.

According to Pakistani officials, the bombing took place on a main road Friday.

The mourners were marking the 40th day after the Ashura anniversary of the martyrdom of Imam Hussein (PBUH).

Initial reports said at least 11 people had lost their lives in the fatal attack.

"Eleven people have been martyred and 40 injured. There are children and women among the killed and wounded," Doctor Seemi Jamali, head of the emergency ward at the city's Jinnah Hospital, said. …………………………..

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Postby arun » 05 Feb 2010 20:36

The Shia of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan at the receiving end of a one two strike today:

Karachi Terrorists Bomb the Wounded at a Hospital

The Two Bombs Targeted Shiites in Karachi, Killing at Least 20

By NICK SCHIFRIN
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan, Feb. 5, 2010

Two bomb attacks -- the first on a group of Shiite mourners and the second outside the hospital where the injured mourners were taken -- have killed about 20 people and injured at least 75 in the Pakistani city of Karachi, according to initial reports. ..............................

The first bomb exploded next to a bus full of Shiite mourners driving toward a procession in downtown Karachi. Shortly after, a second bomb targeted the injured, ripping through a group of emergency workers, journalists, and the wounded outside the hospital closest to the first explosion. ..............................

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X Posted.

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan not being Muslim is to have the great misfortune of being a Dhimmi, a status which can literally get you to lose your head as has happened to these minority Sikh’s.

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Postby SSridhar » 23 Feb 2010 08:00

My brother was beheaded for refusing to convert to Islam

The practitioners of the peaceful religion give an example of how they practise it.
``I am proud of my brother, he has not been killed, he has attained martyrdom for the honour of Sikh religion. He refused to convert to Islam and preferred to lay down his life,'' an inconsolable Taranjit Singh told TOI here on Monday, a day after his cousin's beheaded body was found.

Pakistani Taliban had ruthlessly beheaded Jaspal Singh and Mahal Singh while two others - Gurjit Singh and Gurvinder Singh - are still in their custody. Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee president Sham Singh, however, said only Jaspal Singh had been killed.

Jaspal's cousin, Taranjit, who lives in Lahore, has been in India for the past three weeks on a pilgrimage. He revealed that the kidnapping of Sikhs by Taliban was not only for money, but also to threaten the small Sikh community of Pakistan to embrace Islam.

Taranjit, who was on his way back to Pakistan, said: ``Had it only been about money, we (the Sikh community of Peshawar) would have contributed and paid the hefty ransom of Rs 3 crore and forgotten about it for the sake of their lives. But they (Taliban) had forced Jaspal to cut his hair and convert to Islam to which my brother refused and they beheaded him.'' He said Jaspal had sacrificed his life for the religion and to protect his identity.

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Postby arun » 24 Feb 2010 08:06

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, the self proclaimed safe haven for the Muslims of the Indian sub-continent, being a follower of the majority religion, Islam, is no surety that you cannot get killed by your co-religionists for your religious orientation if you belong to a minority Muslim sect like the Shia:

Shia leader shot dead

Tuesday, February 23, 2010
By Javed Aziz Khan

PESHAWAR: A prominent member of the Shia community was gunned down while his friend sustained bullet injuries when unidentified attackers opened fire on them in Yakatoot area late Monday night.

An alleged attacker was arrested while fleeing from the spot. Dr Saqlain, a prominent figure of the Shia community and brother of Major (R) Hasnain, a leader of Tehrik Nifaz-e-Fiqh-e-Jaffria, , was killed and his friend Abbas was wounded when unidentified attackers opened fire on them near their Imambargah in Yakatoot. ……………..

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Postby Rudradev » 24 Feb 2010 11:13

Suggestion to the Admins:
At the time this thread was started by Dr Benkin, there was a good reason to have a topic entitled "Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh."

However, things have changed since then in Bangladesh and this thread seems to now focus mainly on events in Pakistan.

While there is no doubt some victimization of minorities still going on by Islamist Parties in Bangladesh, we should recognize that the Islamists no longer have the sort of free run and official sanction to commit atrocities as the did in the Khaleda Zia days. In short Bangladesh is a very different kettle of fish from Pakistan; diplomacy and changes in political climate are making headway there.

Hence it may be unfair and even counterproductive to keep Bangladesh as predominantly in the title of this thread. If we have visitors from that country, after all, seeing us do an equal-equal of Bangladesh with Pakistan might cause them to question any degree of sympathy for India which may have played a role in bringing them here.

Just my thoughts. On that note, we haven't heard from Shaf in a while have we?

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Postby Karna_A » 25 Feb 2010 02:44

Rudradev wrote:Suggestion to the Admins:
At the time this thread was started by Dr Benkin, there was a good reason to have a topic entitled "Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh."
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Agree 100%. Thread should be renamed "Oppression of Minorities in ungoverned Pak(Pakjab) and other Pak mismanaged territories"
There can be a separate thread on what Pakistan can learn from Afghansitan and Bangladesh.

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Ethnic violence continues in Chittagong Hill Tracts
Dhaka, Feb 25 (IANS) Curfew was reimposed as ethnic violence in Khagrachhari resumed late Wednesday night after a day long calm. It's now been six days since the clashes began between Muslim settlers and the Buddhist tribals in Chittagong Hill Tracts (CHT).

Seven houses in Golabari, the tribal neighbourhood and five houses of Bengali-speaking settlers in Mollah Para and Ganj Para were set on fire Wednesday night.

'The flames were licking the night sky while electricity supply in the town was cut off. Screams, yells, wailings, and sirens of rushing fire trucks were filling the air amid a curfew that went into effect at 10 p.m., scheduled to be lifted at 7 a.m. Wednesday,' The Daily Star said.

The six-day violence has claimed three lives and injured 70 while more than 500 houses were set on fire, over 400 of which belonged to tribals. The violence made 3,000 tribals and 500 Bengali settlers homeless, the newspaper said.

Journalists visiting the affected areas were pursued on motorcycles by settlers who sought to intimidate them and block their routes, the newspaper said.

State Minister for Home Shamsul Hoque Tuku who visited Khagrachhari and Rangamati Wednesday, alleged that the opposition Bangladesh Nationalist Party and the Jamaat-e- Islami Bangladesh 'are hatching conspiracies to create unrest in the country'.

Despite orders banning any demonstration, Parbatya Bengali Chhatra Parishad, a student organisation of Bengali settlers, announced a daylong transport strike in all three hill districts Thursday.

All through Wednesday, security forces comprising the army, Rapid Action Battalion (RAB), Bangladesh Rifles (BDR), and police patrolled the streets of Khagrachhari town.

The law enforcers arrested 70 people, including 42 tribals. However, the drives ended up flaring the ethnic tension as many indigenous people complained that many of those who were arrested were innocent.

Located in southeastern Bangladesh bordering Myanmar, CHT, home to Buddhist tribals, has witnessed ethnic violence. Bengali-speaking Muslims were settled in the area to keep the militancy-affected area under control.

Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina reached an accord with the tribals in 1997, but most of the provisions remain to be implemented.

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Postby arun » 27 Feb 2010 08:04

Customary practice in action in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. If Dhimmi’s dare to defend themselves against attack by the pure and pious they will be arrested.

Even though this attack on Christian’s living in Pahar Ganj in the North Nazimabad area of Karachi by a Muslim mob is reported to have taken place on February 21st, I have seen nothing in the media of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the matter.

Has anyone seen a report of this in the media of the Islamic Republic or is this yet another cover-up ? :

Christians Arrested after Muslim Attack in Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh

Postby arun » 28 Feb 2010 16:39

Sri Lankan newspaper the Leader on the religious persecution faced by Sikh’s in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

Slaughter Of Sikhs In Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

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X Posted.

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HANGU: Ten people were killed and several injured when a suicide bomber attack a caravan of passenger buses in Tehsil Tal of district Hangu near petrol pump, sources told Geo News.

Commissioner Kohat Khalid Khan said that the blast occurred in a border area. The bomber was on foot, he added.

The caravan was going to Kurram Agency. Three vehicles were damaged. Dead bodies and injured were being shifted to CMH Tal and other hospitals.


So yet another Muslim Sabbath of Friday arrives in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and is marked by yet another demonstration of the IED Mubarak variant of the IEDology of Pakistan.

Just as being in and around bars at closing time is best avoided in many parts of the world, avoiding Fridays in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is a good idea.

What the article in The News does not disclose is that the minority Muslim Shia sect were at the receiving end of the suicide attack at Hangu.

See this article by AP via Forbes:

Police: 5 killed in NW Pakistan suicide attack

For a country that was supposedly formed as a safe haven for the Muslims of the Indian Sub-continent, security from attack for a minority Muslim sect like the Shia from the majority Sunni Muslim sect, is certainly not a given.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 10 Mar 2010 08:25

More of the usual hypocrisy of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s treatment of ethnic minorities on full display.

Destroying homes in Palestine by Israeli forces is totally haraam:

PAKISTAN CALLS FOR JUST SETTLEMENT OF PALESTINIAN ISSUE

On the other hand destroying homes of the minority Patahan / Pashtun by the Punjabi dominated security forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is completely halal:

Wednesday, March 10, 2010

Another 14 Taliban houses set on fire in Bajaur Agency

KHAR/GHALANAI: Security forces and a local tribal lashkar (militia) torched 14 houses of the Taliban in the Mamoond tehsil of Bajaur Agency on Tuesday. …………….. Separately, security forces in a raid in Barokhel area of Halimzai tehsil on Tuesday arrested three suspects and demolished the house of a wanted terrorist in Safi tehsil. ………………..

Daily Times


This instance of demolishing houses of Pathan / Pashtun as a means of administering punishment by the Punjabi dominated security forces of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is not an aberration but rather is standard practice.

July 2009 article from The News:

Nine houses demolished in Mohmand Agency

December 2009 article also from The News:

Four houses of Bajaur militants destroyed

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby joshvajohn » 10 Mar 2010 09:43

Pakistan: Christians protest second-class status under Islamic law
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=33&idsub=122&id=28477&t=Pakistan%3A+Christians+protest+second-class+status+under+Islamic+law


PAKISTAN: Religious minority groups have nothing to celebrate on International Day on Women
http://www.mynews.in/News/PAKISTAN_Reli ... 40079.html



For those people who have promoted positive image of Islam and Muslims around the world, such systematic attacks on Minorities in Pakistan has made many of the interreligious scholars positions very difficult. Historically in the past Muslims have accommodated minorities (for example in Iraq - orthodox Christianity survived for so many centuries...) to live with them except in a few cases where there was the use of force against minorities.


There is also another version of Islam that needs some support and encouragement from the media and others.

Ul-Qadri: Terrorists are Enemies of Islam
09/03/2010
By Mohammed Al Shafey
http://aawsat.com/english/news.asp?section=3&id=20162

Influential Cleric Issues Fatwa Against Terrorism
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=37701


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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 10 Mar 2010 12:49

Christian charitable organisation offices attacked in Manshera, NWFP:

Aid group attacked in northwest Pakistan; 5 dead

By MUNIR AHMAD (AP) – 57 minutes ago

ISLAMABAD — Suspected militants armed with grenades attacked the offices of an international aid group in northwest Pakistan on Wednesday, killing five people working for the organization, police said.

The attack targeted World Vision, a large Christian humanitarian group helping survivors of the 2005 Kashmir earthquake in Mansehra district.

The dead were all Pakistanis and included two women, said police official Mohammad Sabir. ………………..

AP via Google

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 13 Mar 2010 23:41

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan hands down a sentence of 25 years for touching a Koran with unwashed hands. :

Christian couple handed 25-year prison sentence for blasphemy 09/03/2010

Ruqqiya Bibi and her husband Munir Masih have been sentenced to 25 years in prison for allegedly committing blasphemy. They were sentenced on 2 March by the court in Kasur and taken immediately to prison to begin their sentences.

Ruqqiya and Munir have been fighting for two years to clear their names since they were falsely accused of committing blasphemy by touching the Koran with unwashed hands in December 2008. ………………

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 13 Mar 2010 23:45

X Posted. The plight of Hindu's in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

sum wrote:Real sad read. Posting in full:

Refugee cramp

Women are raped. Men are harassed, beaten up or slain. Children are abducted. It’s the Taliban effect. Persecution of Hindus in Pakistan is on the rise. And the hapless victims have nowhere to go, except to the grand old Mother. Mother India.

Over the last five years, about 5,000 Pakistani Hindus have sought shelter in Rajasthan’s border districts such as Barmer, Jaisalmer, Jodhpur and Ganganagar. And none wants to return home, ever.

Ranaram Bhil is one of them. He left behind his hearth and home in Rahim Yar Khan district near the Indo-Pak border in Sindh province last year, and crossed over to India.

Fanatics had abducted his wife and forcibly converted her to Islam. Local Urdu dailies celebrated it. The next targets would have been Ranaram and his children. “There pressure was unbearable. So I fled Pakistan. I have no idea whether my wife is alive or dead,” he says.

Indraram Meghwal, 55, who migrated to India in 2006, dreads even the memory of life in Pakistan. He still has not got over the horror of watching a pundit, who refused to embrace Islam, being thrown off a roof by a fanatic mob in his hometown, Rahim Yar Khan.


The last surviving neanderthals on this planet have to be the Pakis...

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 17 Mar 2010 07:36

X Posted. Anti-Hindu bigotry in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan by no less a personage than the Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court, Khwaja Mohammad Sharif:

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http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=229546

On Monday, Shahbaz Sharif’s arguably controversial remarks pertaining to the Taliban sparing Punjab provided fodder for animated discussion in the House. On Tuesday, the parliamentary anger mills were fed by another Sharif. This time, no less than the honourable Chief Justice of Lahore High Court, Khwaja Mohammad Sharif.

His remark about “Hindus” giving money and the Muslim militants using it to carry out terrorist activities while hearing a case made the Hindu and other minority parliamentarians cry out an anguished Hi Bhagwan and led to what must be the first ever parliamentary boycott of a sitting chief justice of a high court.

We have seen a lot of strange things happen in our exceptionally colourful chequered political history but never before a walkout of such a nature. In a desperate bid to do some instant damage control, a rather unconvincing Syed Khurshid Shah wanted the House to believe that the honourable CJ must have meant to say “Hindustan and not just Hindu”, adding: “It was apparently a slip of tongue.” But Ramesh Laal wasn’t buying and making a speech before his protest walkout said that the honourable chief justice should have talked about a country but not about a religion. On hearing this one of the chaps sitting in the press gallery quipped: “If nothing else, a judge must be able to judge his own words.”

A tad harsh assessment but not altogether without merit. It wasn’t as if Muslim MNAs weren’t in a supporting mood for their minority colleagues. Rasheed Akbar Niwani of the PML-N wanted the judges to “speak through judgements and not otherwise”, while Munawar Talpur apologised to the Hindu MNAs whom he described as “as good a Pakistani as anyone else”.

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We already have enough impure divisive fissures in our so called land of the pure, and the last thing we need is further alienation of the population that is already being treated as aliens most of the time.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 17 Mar 2010 07:43

^^^ Daily Times on the same story.

Reports that the Lahore High Court Chief Justice, Khawaja Muhammad Sharif, claimed “that the Hindu community was funding terrorism in Pakistan”:

LHC CJ’s remarks irk NA members

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan and Bangla Desh

Postby arun » 20 Mar 2010 07:10

SSridhar wrote:My brother was beheaded for refusing to convert to Islam

The practitioners of the peaceful religion give an example of how they practise it.


The spin being put on in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan on the abduction of Sikhs.

RAW or reading between the lines in the context of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan :wink: , Hindu's did it.

When it comes to taking ownership for Islamic bigotry the Appetite in Pakistan among Muslims is non existent :

RAW-TTP nexus in Sikhs’ killing exposed

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby joshvajohn » 21 Mar 2010 08:07

Hindu-Sikh Minorities in Pakistan: The Vanishing Communities
http://frontierindia.net/wa/hindu-sikh- ... ities/632/

It is time for Pakistan to take bold steps against terrorism with her country. One of the important first step is to remove the blasphemy law against minorities which makes their lives impossible to live there. Two or three muslims folks can just make the minority fellow's life miserable if they want to do some fun with their lives.

This is what is happening. If pakistan is really sensible to live as a country for many years it is better to bring some reform including removal of this law immediately. One country cannot simply put another religious person in prison for many year simply because the other person does not belong to Islamic faith.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 23 Mar 2010 09:13

The horrible treatment meted out in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to religious minorities or to use the correct Islamic term, dhimmi’s :

Kidnapping reflects fears of Pakistan minorities

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 24 Mar 2010 08:12

X Posted. The uniformed Jihadi’s of the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan seem to have conveniently relegated Non Muslim women to the category of "what your right hands possess" (Ma malakat aymanukum) making them sex slaves:

Pakistan army using minority women as sex slaves: NGO

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 25 Mar 2010 13:47

One of the more egregious examples of persecution meted out by the momin in the Land of the Pure to dhimmi’s for the crime of refusing to convert to Islam. Even more shockingly the rape is alleged to have been committed by Muslim Policemen:

Pakistani non-Muslim dies four days after children watch him burned, wife raped

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 26 Mar 2010 07:06

The persecution of dhimmi’s by a mob of the Momin of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan burning to death Arshed Masih and the gangrape of his wife Martha Masih by Muslim Policemen. has evoked a diplomatic reaction.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Charge D'affaires in Rome has been summoned by the Italy to provide an explanation:

Italy: Diplomat summoned over attacks on Christians in Pakistan

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 27 Mar 2010 19:01

In the Islamic Republic of Pakistan it is not enough to be Muslim to escape persecution on the basis of religious affiliation as belonging to a minority Muslim sect like the Shia can still get you persecuted.

In Parachinar an economic blockade has been imposed by those belonging to the majority Sunni Muslim sect against the minority Shia Muslim sect with violators of the economic blockade such as the below truck drivers being exterminated:

Six kidnapped truckers found dead in Thal

Saturday, 27 Mar, 2010

PESHAWAR: Police on Saturday found the bodies of six truck drivers who were kidnapped a few days ago in a restive northwestern town, officials said.

The drivers were shot dead and their bodies were found in Thal district, local police official Abdul Rehman told AFP.

“A letter found in the pocket of one dead truck driver said that if anyone supplied goods to the Parachinar Shia community, he will be treated like this,” Rehman said. ……………………

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby SSridhar » 30 Mar 2010 10:15

The Believers usurp the graveyards of the Christians
The protesters alleged that Boota Thekedar tried to illegally take over the land of a centuries-old Christian graveyard in Nowshera Virkan along with one Asif Cheema who is also the Nowshera Virkan police assistant sub-inspector.

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 07 Apr 2010 09:09

Pakistan may be an Islamic Republic claimed to have been established to provide a safe haven for the Muslims of the Indian Sub-Continent but that safe haven status for Muslims apparently does not extend to Muslim Sects which are in a minority

Three members of the minority Muslim Ahmadi / Ahmadiyya sect killed in a case of targeted sectarian killing in Faisalabad on April 1, 2010:

Monday, April 05, 2010

Ahmadis slam target-killings in Faisalabad

LAHORE: The Jamaat-e-Ahmadia Pakistan on Sunday condemned the target killing of three members of its community in Faisalabad on April 1 (Thursday), Daily Times has learnt. The incident occurred around 10pm last Thursday when the three Ahmadis were returning home in their vehicle from their jewellery and cloth shops situated in Rail Bazaar in Faisalabad. As their car approached the Canal Road near Faisal Hospital, four or five unidentified militants – in a white car – ambushed them. ……………………..

Daily Times

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Re: Oppression of minorities in Pakistan

Postby arun » 10 Apr 2010 16:51

Former member of the Parliament of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan is reduced to the sorry state of having to seek asylum in the UK.

The only crime of the former member of the Parliament of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was not being a follower of the State religion of Pakistan namely Islam but rather following the minority Sikh religion:

Pakistani politician given new hope of asylum


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