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Re: Balwaristan

Postby krishGo » 18 Aug 2019 22:06

Cross Posting

UlanBatori wrote:OK, is there a dhaga for Balwaristan like there is for Balochistan? I think attention needs to focus on these two now. Jammu-Kashmir is ***(Yaaaawn)**** soo July 2019 news.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/video/p ... 2019-08-17
Also:
Why Peace in Kashmir Is Leading to Panic in Pakistan Pakjab
Also,
Should India Expose Pakistan's Pakjab's Atrocities in PORK?
(Er... I don't know about INDIA< but PeeAref, why not?)

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Aug 2019 03:51

Under Pakistan Rule, Gilgit-Baltistan Most Neglected, Backward Area in South Asia, Says New Book
The Gilgit-Baltistan region has a geographical area of 72,496 sq. km (as per Pakistani projections). Under an agreement reached between Pakistan and China in 1963, Pakistan handed over 5,180 square km of territory to China.

Islamabad has also been systematically suppressing the people of the region who are mostly Shias and are facing an influx of Sunni population from other parts of Pakistan.

Tilak Devasher, a strategic affairs expert, says while Pakistan has projected itself as the champion of self-determination' and democratic rights in J and K, the reality is that in Gilgit Baltistan, it has indulged in "systematic suppression of the people".

"It has denied them even basic constitutional and legal rights but hypocritically speaks of the right of self-determination in J and K," he told PTI.

Other experts not connected to the book say Islamabad has also been systematically suppressing the people of the region who are mostly Shias and are facing an influx of Sunni population from other parts of Pakistan.

Tilak Devasher, a strategic affairs expert, says while Pakistan has projected itself as the champion of self-determination' and democratic rights in J and K, the reality is that in Gilgit Baltistan, it has indulged in "systematic suppression of the people".

"It has denied them even basic constitutional and legal rights but hypocritically speaks of the right of self-determination in J and K," he told PTI.

The region, which was part of erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir before being occupied by Pakistan in 1947, is now synonymous with increasing suicides, sectarian violence, violation of human rights and militancy. Awfully, 85 per cent of the people make their living on subsistence farming, says the book published by premier think-tank Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis.

According to a report by the Islamabad-based Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies, the region has a literacy rate of mere 14 per cent for men and 3.5 per cent for women. However, the book says, data prepared by the government of Gilgit-Baltistan in 2013 claimed that the literacy rate was 37.85 per cent in 1998 and it went up to 60 per cent in 2013.

Authored by Surinder Kumar Sharma, Yaqoob ul Hassan and Ashok Behuria, the book chronicles socio-political developments, strategic dimensions including China's growing presence and unfolding demographic changes in the mountainous region.

"The Pakistan Government has not done much to improve the economic condition of the people of Gilgit-Baltistan which is considered as the most backward in South Asia," says the book.

It says there has been increasing frequency of suicides in the region, adding that over 300 youths, both boys and girls, committed suicides in Ghizer district alone since 2000. "One major reason for committing suicide is unemployment".

In a reflection of the situation there, Abdul Hamid Khan, leader of Balawaristan National Front (BNF), a prominent political party of the region, in a letter to then UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon on March 14, 2016, said: "There is no legal, constitutional, judicial mechanism in place in Pakistan occupied Gilgit-Baltistan to protect people from human rights violations."

"Many political and religious people have been prosecuted in Gilgit-Baltistan jails without giving them access to legal, constitutional redress options or high court and Supreme Court," he wrote to Moon.

The Gilgit-Baltistan region has a geographical area of 72,496 sq. km (as per Pakistani projections). Under an agreement reached between Pakistan and China in 1963, Pakistan handed over 5,180 square km of territory to China.

For several decades, Gilgit-Baltistan did not have any clear political status as it was not officially declared part of Pakistan or was given the so called autonomy granted to what Pakistan calls 'Azad Kashmir'.

In 1949, Pakistan divided Pakistan occupied Jammu and Kashmir into separate administrative zones known as the so-called Azad Jammu & Kashmir and the so-called Federally Administered Northern Areas.

Pakistan created an Advisory Council' for the Federally Administered Northern Areas in 1969. This Advisory Council was converted into the Northern Areas Council' in 1994. In 1999, it was renamed as Northern Areas Legislative Council' through Legal Framework (Amendment) Order, which in turn was replaced by the Gilgit-Baltistan Empowerment and Self-Governance Order in 2009. India had reacted sharply after the 2009 order, calling the move yet another cosmetic exercise intended to camouflage Pakistan's illegal occupation of the region.

The Gilgit-Baltistan Order 2018 by Pakistan brought about further changes, including authorizing the Prime Minister of Pakistan to legislate on over 63 subjects and the power to overrule any law passed by the Gilgit-Baltistan Assembly etc.

It also invested the final authority to amend the Gilgit-Baltistan Order 2018 to the President of Pakistan instead of the Legislative Assembly of Gilgit-Baltistan. Devasher, the strategic affairs expert, said the basic issue is that Pakistan has tied itself in knots in trying to follow a policy of calculated ambiguity' towards the areas.

"It has been unable to absorb these areas, apprehending that it would be construed as permanent acceptance of the territorial status quo and the LoC. It would also make the UN Resolutions, the central plank of its Kashmir policy, irrelevant," he said.

"At the same time it is finding it increasingly difficult to continue to deprive the people of the region of their fundamental rights. Hence, it has made several attempts to give some rights and decentralize some powers to the elected representatives in the hope of letting off steam," he added.

According to 1998 census, the population of Gilgit-Baltistan was 870,347, while estimated population in 2013 was 1.3 million with an annual growth rate of about 2.56 per cent.

There has been increasing sectarian violence between Shias and Sunnis. The Shias felt threatened by the large influx of Sunnis from other provinces, particularly from Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, says the book.

The book suggested that there was pressure on Pakistan from China to provide clear legal status to Gilgit-Baltistan as India raised strong objection to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), saying it cuts through the disputed territory.

The USD 60 billion worth CPEC is part of China's ambitious Belt and Road Initiative (BRI)', and it connects Kashgar in Xinjiang with Gwadar Port in Pakistan.

China has shown great interest in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir particularly in Gilgit-Baltistan as it has undertaken a plethora of infrastructure projects in the area.

"Further, the completion of the USD 60 billion Corridor will further strengthen the Chinese control of the territory. The huge investment and presence in the region will provide China a leverage to become a de facto member of the dispute," says the book.

The region, which was part of erstwhile Jammu and Kashmir before being occupied by Pakistan in 1947, is now synonymous with increasing suicides, sectarian violence, violation of human rights and militancy. Awfully, 85 per cent of the people make their living on subsistence farming, says the book published by premier think-tank Institute of Defence Studies and Analysis.

According to a report by the Islamabad-based Pakistan Institute for Peace Studies, the region has a literacy rate of mere 14 per cent for men and 3.5 per cent for women. However, the book says, data prepared by the government of Gilgit-Baltistan in 2013 claimed that the literacy rate was 37.85 per cent in 1998 and it went up to 60 per cent in 2013.

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby UlanBatori » 19 Aug 2019 03:53

Someone pls cross-post/repeat the stuff about the Bomb Shelter rapes here.

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby DharmaB » 19 Aug 2019 23:56

UlanBatori wrote:Someone pls cross-post/repeat the stuff about the Bomb Shelter rapes here.


cross-post:
https://www.dawn.com/news/1472015/why-d ... der-firing

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby UlanBatori » 20 Aug 2019 17:09

From the Economic Times:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 749284.cms

'Karachi Agreement' allegedly signed between three parties in 1949.

The secret agreement, carrying 'forged signatures' of founder President of PoK, Sardar Ibrahim Khan, Chief of Jammu Kashmir Muslim Conference Chaudhary Ghulam Abbas and key representative of the Pakistan government Mushtak Gurmani, facilitated the forcible occupation of Gilgit-Baltistan by deceit, revealed Nasir Aziz Khan, exiled leader and chief spokesperson of United Kashmir People's National Party (UKPNP), a prominen ..


Read more at:
//economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/70749284.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby Rsatchi » 20 Aug 2019 19:58

Last night on IndiaToday Debate by Rahul K first time probably showing demographic changes in POK/GB- Balwaristan using pak census report Sunni's supplanting/replacing shias (probably usual pa_i 'sleight of hand' using gunships and planes to make shias vanish into thin air)

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby arvin » 07 May 2020 21:56

https://www.livemint.com/news/india/imd ... 18288.html

NEW DELHI: In a first, the Indian Meteorological Department has included regions of Gilgit-Baltistan and Muzaffarabad as part of its Jammu and Kashmir meteorological sub-division.

Gilgit-Baltistan and Muzaffarabad are territories currently under Pakistani occupation. India says the whole of Jammu and Kashmir is part of India, something that is contested by Pakistan.

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby ramana » 08 May 2020 03:55

I propose we merge this thread into the UT of Ladakh as we will eventually merge them.
What's the consensus?

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby Vivek K » 08 May 2020 07:13

ramana wrote:I propose we merge this thread into the UT of Ladakh as we will eventually merge them.
What's the consensus?

I think this should be pinned and stay on top for years to come under its current name. We need to start finding material to post every day. A better title may be "Westward Ho!"

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby arvin » 08 May 2020 07:44

Its good to merge Ladakh and this thread. IMO call it Ladakh, Gilgit and Baltistan since these are the officially used names. Balwaristan is difficult to locate on a map.

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby Manish_P » 08 May 2020 15:16

DD, AIR show weather reports from Gilgit- Baltistan from today, officials say more reports to follow

Days after India reiterated that Gilgit-Baltistan was part of its territory, national broadcaster Prasar Bharati on Friday started including weather forecasts for these areas in its news bulletins.

Earlier this week, India Meteorological Department (IMD) too started referring to its meteorological sub-division of Jammu and Kashmir as “Jammu & Kashmir, Ladakh, Gilgit-Baltistan and Muzaffarabad."

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Re: Balwaristan

Postby arvin » 19 May 2020 09:31

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... 773410.cms

Delhi: Pakistan’s decision to go ahead with the Diamer-Basha Dam in PoK not only infringes upon India’s sovereignty but can be an ecological disaster as there are 300 earthquakes on average in a single month at the proposed site of the Diamer-Basha dam


No harm in needling the dam site with UAV just like china is needling us in ladakh.


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