The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby mmasand » 09 Nov 2019 00:53

madhu wrote:
ShyamSP wrote: Hindus will lose only :(( :(( :((

Missing dilbu .


I was going to say....but I feel there will be an open ended verdict. Expect the AIMPLB to come out and say we don't want to be associated with Babar's legacy, we want to preserve our deobandi heritage.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 05:25

I am getting a bit stressed out. If Hindus lose, then it will be a push to all Jihadis in India.

However if Hindus win, then in due course, the reclamation will expand. It seems like Indian Muslims don't really care much about BM, but don't want it to expand to other mosques which were built on temples. In other words they are afraid of a pandora's box opening.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 09 Nov 2019 05:39

How do we characterize win/lose here if the SC merely upholds the Allahabad HC verdict which split the land 3 ways?

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 05:45

nachiket wrote:How do we characterize win/lose here if the SC merely upholds the Allahabad HC verdict which split the land 3 ways?


If it is a split, then it is a loss for the Hindu side because it means that their beliefs have no importance in India.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby nachiket » 09 Nov 2019 05:53

KJo wrote:
nachiket wrote:How do we characterize win/lose here if the SC merely upholds the Allahabad HC verdict which split the land 3 ways?


If it is a split, then it is a loss for the Hindu side because it means that their beliefs have no importance in India.

The HC decision granted the site of the Ram idol to Ram Lalla Virajman. The Nimrohi Akhada which got the second piece of land also wants to build a temple there. It should be possible for the two parties to come together and build the temple on the combined piece of land.

I am asking because the SC milaards will probably want to take the easy way out and upholding previous verdict would be the easiest for them.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 09 Nov 2019 06:43

Nachiket,

I expect 5-0 verdict in favor of #JaiShriRam

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby ramana » 09 Nov 2019 06:48

Prem Kumar wrote:
Primus wrote:I am not content to stop with RJB, but would like all such places to be returned, including the Sidhpur temple * that lies buried under the mosque on top of the hill. Very few people know about it as it was only discovered in 1981 or so, but it is one of the many such magnificent temples that have been forgotten.

* The famous 12th century Rudra Mahalya temple, said to be one of the biggest of its time.


+108

I am not content with anything less than all the 40K Temples being reclaimed from Muslims. So, I have an issue with people like SuSwamy who want to stop at 3. He does not speak for me nor for the 100s of millions of Hindus slaughtered by Islamic fanatics.

And usually, when I say this, the common refrain from my friends is "be practical". That's missing the whole point. The whole point is to march towards a goal, even if it takes a 1000 years to achieve it. What is dar-ul-islam anyway? Is it practical? Yet, millions of Muslims are willing to kill and die for it. Its their North Star.


#JaiShriRam

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Nov 2019 07:08

Interesting. I remember that UBCN pioneered the use of the betting markets b4 the desh election. This time v r recommending watching the commodities market for the prices of gas cylinders. (Sorry, I hope that does not become a particularly bad joke...)
Security has to be tightened around all temples/mandirs/gurudvaras and Jain-Buddhist shrines. Also mosques because false-flag attacks may be expected, to be blamed on "Y-T". Particularly Shia mosques.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Nov 2019 07:15

The frustration in Terroristan is palpable and has reached critical levels. Go and see Quereshi's rant yesterdin, with Indian papparazzi goading him about POrK. Went off into an utterly rabid rant with Yellow Sea, Cash More, and eventually to New Clear.

All this time since Aug. 5 and not ONE "successful" terror attack. Meanwhile, several terror camps pulverized, global humiliation...
PA stock is lower than at any time since Jan. 1972.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby arshyam » 09 Nov 2019 07:28

Precautionary measures have been taken around the country, with section 144 imposed in some places - even in far away BLR. Better to stay indoors if possible.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 09 Nov 2019 08:20

My take will be kichidi like Allahabad HC, 1/3,1/3 and 1/3.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rony » 09 Nov 2019 09:34

Thats my fear too

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 09:36

Of that happens, really hope govt brings in an ordinance.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby JE Menon » 09 Nov 2019 09:40

Historic day folks. Cannot underplay the significance. I wish for the outcome Ramana predicts, of course. Still, nervous.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Amber G. » 09 Nov 2019 09:52

^^^ Wathing LIVE on twitter: keeping in mind our PM "अयोध्या पर फ़ैसला: प्रधानमंत्री ने कहा, शांति और एकता बनाए रखें"
"Keep Calm everyone!"
Whatever decision SC delivers in #Ayodhya case, it'll not be a victory or defeat of anyone. My appeal to the countrymen is that it should be the priority of all of us that this decision should further strengthen the great tradition of peace,unity&goodwill of India.
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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby UlanBatori » 09 Nov 2019 09:59

How long to go? One hour? UBCN is broadcasting "Situation Naarmal" signal, but has to go off the air soon. :((

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 10:28

20 minutes to go.
:(( :((

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:43

at best a 3-2 verdict IMHO. no way, chandrabora & nazeer will not vote for a maximalist jihadi/naxal pasand position.
and the verdict itself will be ambiguous.
we will lose onlee :((

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:48

Bar & Bench
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The Bench assembles.

Pronouncement of Judgment commences.

CJI Gogoi: "we would request silence please"

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 10:49

This it it, guys.

Jai Shri Ram!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 10:50

jai shri ram

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 10:51

It’s unanimous

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Sanju » 09 Nov 2019 10:52

Congrats to everyone! Badhai ho!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 10:53

What's unanimous judgement?

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 10:53

Sanju wrote:Congrats to everyone! Badhai ho!


Hold your horses man... could be unanimous the other way :(( :((

I feel optimistic though
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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:54

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The Ayodhya Judgment will be an unanimous judgment. Pronouncement of judgment to last for half an hour

#AYODHYAVERDICT #AyodhyaHearing

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:55

CJI : court must preserve balance. guess what that means.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:56

Bar & Bench
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This Court set up under Constitutional scheme should defer from interfering with faith and belief of worshippers.

Secularism basic feature of the Constitution.
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"Court should preserve balance", Supreme Court.

"Mosque built by Mir Baqi on order of Babur".

"Idols were placed in the mosque in 1949", Supreme Court

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 10:57

idols placed in the structure in 1949.. wtf !!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 10:57

don't like the look of this.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rupesh » 09 Nov 2019 10:58

It's a unanimous verdict. I am worried due to reference to secularism

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby ShyamSP » 09 Nov 2019 10:58

:(( :((

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rupesh » 09 Nov 2019 10:59

CJI is saying ASI is expert authority.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:00

Nirmohi Akhara suit rejected..

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 11:02

#Breaking: Ram Janma Bhoomi not a juristic person, holds Supreme Court.

#RamJanmbhoomi #RamJanmabhoomi #AYODHYAVERDICT

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rupesh » 09 Nov 2019 11:02

Nirmohi akhada suit not maintainable. ASI findings can't be disputed.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby suryag » 09 Nov 2019 11:02

Wtf does that mean

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby ShyamSP » 09 Nov 2019 11:03

Worst judging

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:04

Babri Masjid not built on vacant land, underlying structure not of islamic origin

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 11:04

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There is adequate material in ASI report to conclude the following:

Babri Masjid not constructed on vacant land. There was a structure underlying the disputed structure.

The underlying structure was not an Islamic structure, Supreme Court.

#BabriMasjid #AYODHYAVERDICT


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