The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby williams » 09 Nov 2019 11:28

SC says Centre will formulate a scheme in three months to set up a board of trustees for construction of temple at the disputed structure

Finally some good news!
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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 11:28

We win!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rupesh » 09 Nov 2019 11:28

Hindus will get the land. Center to formulate trust to construct a Temple.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 09 Nov 2019 11:29

Awesome deck cleared for bhavya Shree Ram Mandir!!!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:29

Central govt has 3 months to set up a Trust to build a temple and mosque, disputed land title still not clear..

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Sanju » 09 Nov 2019 11:29

Mandir Wahi Banega!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby manish singh » 09 Nov 2019 11:30

एक ही नारा एक ही नाम जय श्री राम जय श्री राम !

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby sooraj » 09 Nov 2019 11:30

A suitable plot of land measuring 5 acre shall be given to Sunni Waqf Board by state or centre in Ayodhya.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Kaivalya » 09 Nov 2019 11:30

5 acres to be given to Sunni waqf board. To be decided in 3 months by a trust.

Congratulations!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Najunamar » 09 Nov 2019 11:31

When can I go do kar seva?

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby sooraj » 09 Nov 2019 11:31

Sunni Waqf Board will build the mosque.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rahul M » 09 Nov 2019 11:31

Sanju wrote:Mandir Wahi Banega!

finally !

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:32

Disputed structure given to Ramjanmabhoomi NYAS !!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:32

YUP !!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby ShyamSP » 09 Nov 2019 11:34

Hindus got 2.7+ acres. Muslims got 5 acres. 1:2 secularism of Colonial court :D

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:35

Ramana Ji's prediction upheld !

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 11:35

Image

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Santosh » 09 Nov 2019 11:38

Sickularism at its best.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Santosh » 09 Nov 2019 11:40

Najunamar wrote:When can I go do kar seva?

VHP should ask for a brick from every house. Let this be an opportunity to bring all Hindu samaj together irrespective of caste.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 11:41

Guys why 5 acres to other party? They lost the case, first time am seeing a losing party getting rewarded. Destroy a religion's holy site, build your structure over it, now when natives reclaim the place, get a bigger land for new structure.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby tandav » 09 Nov 2019 11:42

Sicanta wrote:SC- temple not destroyed to built mosque as per asi


My interpretation and this will change as more info pours in and solely based on Sicanta Quote of SC above which can be disregarded if untrue

1) If ASI states "Temple NOT destroyed to build Mosque" is True... there is very little Locus Standi for Hindus.

2) Essentially nobody disputes that Ayodhya (Town) is the birthplace for Ram.

3) Babri Complex is not a Mosque as there was no Wakf board constituted and moreover Wakf board does not inherit Mughal Land.

4) What was disputed is the particular location of RamJanamBhoomi previously occupied by the erstwhile Babri "Masjid" until 1993. The Hindu case rests on the assumption that an earlier temple was destroyed to make a Islamic Structure by perhaps Babur/Baqi/Aurangazeb. If ASI states that there was no preexisting Temple ergo: destruction of Babri "Masjid" was wrong, placing of idols in 1949 also wrong / desecretion.

5) As per my understanding based solely on data available to me it appears In 1800s a group of Hindu Ascetics captured / took physical control of the Babri Complex which was previously also visited by many Hindus for pilgrimage (driven by deep and unquestioned faith of Hindus).

6) Based on above SC has said land belongs to Government. Onus on GoI to take further action with the property it owns and act in best interests of the nation.

CAVEAT: This is my initial assessment and is subject to change based on more data

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Patni » 09 Nov 2019 11:42

Now can we dig deep and carry out full excavation at site and unearth original mandir in its full glory to have solid undisputed and documented proof to be used as template that can be used for every other demolished temple everywhere in India!

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby williams » 09 Nov 2019 11:42

NDTV is not happy :) that says who won

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 11:43

williams wrote:NDTV is not happy :) that says who won


The order side has won saar. They had nothing to claim and nothing to lose, but they got 5 acres land. We just got what was ours.
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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 09 Nov 2019 11:43

Spare a moment to humble Kar Sevaks and others who staked everything gave thier work, did not worry about family over the centuries for us to have this day.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rony » 09 Nov 2019 11:45

Karthik S wrote:Guys why 5 acres to other party? They lost the case, first time am seeing a losing party getting rewarded. Destroy a religion's holy site, build your structure over it, now when natives reclaim the place, get a bigger land for new structure.


+ 1 . Indian sickularism in action

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Aditya_V » 09 Nov 2019 11:45

Karthik S wrote:
williams wrote:NDTV is not happy :) that says who won


The order side has won saar. They had nothing to claim and nothing to lose, but they got 5 acres land. We just got what was ours.

A different point of view I guess. Let's agree to disagree. Given the circumstances this the best we could expect.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Najunamar » 09 Nov 2019 11:49

We all need to rejuvenate and rebuild the huge structure befitting Rama, hope to do my bit in every way possible. Trust will need funds, kar sevaks I guess for ensuring the temple is built to reflect our aspirations.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby OmkarC » 09 Nov 2019 11:50

Aditya_V wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
The order side has won saar. They had nothing to claim and nothing to lose, but they got 5 acres land. We just got what was ours.

A different point of view I guess. Let's agree to disagree. Given the circumstances this the best we could expect.


Agreed

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby KJo » 09 Nov 2019 11:50

Why the rona dhona? What we got is the best result we could have expected

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rsatchi » 09 Nov 2019 11:51

'Hey Ram'
Siyawara Ramchandra ki Jai
Of the Trinity : One is released from the 'bandan' and when the other {Yaanki Shivji} be released
Napak iraada in Kartarpur neatly confined to bylanes by the Ji Huzoor's
Liberandu's will claim that Namo-Shamo had a hand in it

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby manish singh » 09 Nov 2019 11:52

Shows the quality of 2019 victory of Modiji.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Rsatchi » 09 Nov 2019 11:53

Noob Pooch
5 acres of suitable land
Kahan par denge 5 acres

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Najunamar » 09 Nov 2019 11:55

It cannot be anywhere near the temple or they will create trouble - taqquiya

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 11:55

Aditya_V wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
The order side has won saar. They had nothing to claim and nothing to lose, but they got 5 acres land. We just got what was ours.

A different point of view I guess. Let's agree to disagree. Given the circumstances this the best we could expect.


We can but sorry sir, the line reeks of insecurity and cowardliness. The other side was fighting using "adverse claim", SC said it's not applicable. Case over. Why order 5 acres land to losing side? It's age old sickularism. Am sure other side is going back laughing and happy.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby arshyam » 09 Nov 2019 11:56

ramana wrote:Nachiket,

I expect 5-0 verdict in favor of #JaiShriRam

That's called a prediction. Please take a bow, ramana sir.

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 11:56

manish singh wrote:Shows the quality of 2019 victory of Modiji.


Where modi came into this? :-?

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby Karthik S » 09 Nov 2019 11:57

Anyway, koti koti naman to kar sevaks who fought and even lost their lives over the years. Am sure their atmas would have attained moksha and be with lord rama

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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby SriKumar » 09 Nov 2019 11:57

To me, this almost feels like a case where the Supreme Court of India's relevance was at stake more than the RJB judgement; and I think the honors had an inkling of that. If this judgement had gone any other way, SCI's crediblity, already under some question, would have suffered severely with about 70% of the country. The other 20% would have been ecstatic, though.
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Re: The Ram Janmbhoomi Verdict: News and Discussion

Postby tandav » 09 Nov 2019 12:00

Karthik S wrote:Guys why 5 acres to other party? They lost the case, first time am seeing a losing party getting rewarded. Destroy a religion's holy site, build your structure over it, now when natives reclaim the place, get a bigger land for new structure.


As per SC and ASI there was no pre existing Temple and I for one await clarity on this matter. Essentially the place is simply a property dispute where both Hindus and Muslims were offering prayers without clear titles. Since no one can prove ownership title vests with Government which may decide to give that particular location to a Temple. However given that there definitely was an Islamic structure erstwhile "Babri Masjid" the same has to be compensated by Government and SC has suggested a 5acre plot be given to Muslims in Ayodhya itself in return for 2.7Acres of Plot for RJB in disputed location.


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