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Re: Vietnam - News & Discussions

Postby Philip » 12 Nov 2013 22:02

Putin and Russia are rapidly ramping up ties with Vietnam, traditional long-time friend. In the mil. sphere,the first of 6 Kilo 636.3 subs is being delivered ,ordered just 4 years ago. India too has been increasing its presence in the country with mil. cooperation apart from JVs for offshore oil exploration and mil. training esp. for subs.

Putin Visits Vietnam to Boost Ties
12 November 2013 | Issue 5254

Read more: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/arti ... z2kRPZjQdQ
The Moscow Times


HANOI, Vietnam — President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that his country will expand its military supplies to Vietnam, as he held talks with his Vietnamese counterpart to boost ties between the former ideological allies.

Military and energy cooperation topped the agenda during the talks between Putin and Vietnamese President Truong Tan Sang.

"We have had specific discussions on military cooperation," Putin, who was on a one-day visit, told reporters via a translator in a joint press briefing in Hanoi, Vietnam's capital. "We plan to expand the supplies of Russian military products to Vietnam."

Russia remains the main supplier of military hardware to Vietnam, and plans are being worked out to produce some military equipment in the Southeast Asian country with assistance from Russian companies.

Last week, Russia handed over the first of six diesel-electric Kilo Class submarines in a deal signed in 2009.

The two presidents witnessed the signing of more than a dozen agreements covering military, oil and gas, education and health care cooperation.

Sang said he and Putin had fruitful talks to bring relations between the countries forward.

"In the atmosphere of openness and trust, we exchanged views on bilateral relations and agreed on measures to further strengthen and expand the comprehensive strategic partnership between Vietnam and Russia," Sang told reporters.

In an article carried by state media on Monday, Putin wrote, "Russian-Vietnamese friendship has stood the test of time, having lived through the numerous tragic events of the 20th century and drastic changes in the world as well as in our countries."

Vietnam and Russia were close ideological allies until the break-up of the former Soviet Union in 1991. Bilateral relations warmed up after Putin first became president, and the countries signed a strategic partnership agreement in 2001.

Cooperation in energy has gone beyond the oil and gas sector. Russia's state atomic energy corporation, Rosatom, has been awarded the rights to build Vietnam's first nuclear power plant.

Putin was to travel to South Korea later Tuesday.


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Postby johneeG » 13 Nov 2013 01:55

The US imposed a trade embargo on Vietnam in 1975 and pulled its embassy staff from the country.

President Clinton announced the normalization of diplomatic relations with Vietnam a decade later

One morning, I drive with Phan Thanh Tien, the vice president of DAVA, to the home of a former Vietnamese soldier whose grandchildren have been affected by dioxin. The house is deep in the countryside in Hoa Vang District, far from the hospitals and markets in downtown Da Nang. We climb a dirt path up a hill to reach the house and pass a cow, munching among the palm trees, that DAVA has given the family.

The house is humble – just a few rooms – and like many Vietnamese homes it lacks a front wall, so the breezes flow through the house freely. Chickens and dogs play in the front yard.

The patriarch of the family, Le Van Dan, is 68 years old. He was a driver for the South Vietnamese Army during the war, a role he says the military forced him to take on. His wife pours me tea while one of his grandsons examines my notebook and pen.

He is 15 years old, but his developmental disabilities make him look much younger. A second grandson lays motionless on a bed in the other room. His legs are skinny and unable to keep him upright. When I speak to him, his eyes move, but he doesn't say a word. They tell me that he can't understand.

Mr. Dan remembers seeing the white clouds of herbicide being sprayed by US planes a few miles from his home during the war. He thought it was water at the time. American veteran Palazzo remembers those clouds, too. He served as a reconnaissance specialist not far from Dan's house and was told by his commanding officer that the chemical being sprayed was pesticide. But something about the manure-smelling chemical didn't make sense.

"I paid more attention and I realized that this stuff is wilting the leaves, and the trees are just crumbling down," Palazzo recalls. "Mosquito repellent doesn't do this."

The US sprayed nearly 20 million gallons of herbicides in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia as part of Operation Ranch Hand during the war against North Vietnam. Of these herbicides, Agent Orange is the most deadly. The chemical contains a large amount of dioxin, a toxic compound that takes centuries to break down.

Since 1991, the US Department of Veterans Affairs has recognized that exposure to dioxin can cause certain cancers, diseases, and birth defects. American veterans who served in the Vietnam War and have conditions linked to dioxin exposure can receive medical benefits and disability compensation from the US government.

But Hanoi has long complained that the 4.8 million Vietnamese that it estimates were exposed to dioxin during the war have not received equivalent benefits from Washington. Moreover, the former US bases where herbicides were once stored, mixed, and loaded into planes have not been properly cleaned. Researchers at the Vietnam Public Health Association estimate that 90 percent of new dioxin poisoning cases occurring today in Vietnam are due to the consumption of food and water contaminated by dioxin that has leaked out of bases abandoned by the US four decades ago.

"The US would have been much too ready to totally ignore land mines, unexploded ordnance, Agent Orange, and the tragic legacy of the war if we had let them," says Chuck Searcy, a US Army veteran who has lived in Hanoi since relations were normalized in 1995. "But because of the presence here of veterans and our attention to those issues, the US has had to be accountable for those things."

The US dropped an estimated 7.8 million tons of ammunition on Southeast Asia during the war, more than it used on both Germany and Japan during World War II. Bombs that failed to detonate on impact became de facto land mines. The Vietnamese government estimates that more than 100,000 people have been killed or injured by unexploded ordnance since the war ended.


http://news.yahoo.com/why-us-veterans-returning-vietnam-170901450.html

The sheer bestiality committed by the AmirKhan in Nam is mind boggling. These wars by the AmirKhan and his acolytes are a crime against humanity.

Every time, I see the hollybood movies on Vietnam, it disgusts me. It is always from the perspective of GIs or their kernails or jernails. Not even a moment is spared for the perspective and dire situation of the Vietnamese people. These b*&^turds entered their country, destroyed their home, bombed their fields, contaminated their waters and food, made prostitutes of their women, made labours out of children, and killed the people in gigantic numbers. Yet, all one gets to hear is the exaggerated 'anguish' of some GI 'veterans' during the war or after the war or his supposed guilt pangs.

Reverse the scenario and imagine the reaction of these TFTAs... imagine if the Amirkhan was invaded and people were bombed(napalmed), the women have to resort to prostitution to survive, children become labours, food and water are filled with chemicals, anything that moves is killed by the enemy, the enemy is in your home... what would be the reaction of these TFTAs? Will they spare a moment for the 'guilt' or 'anguish' of the invader? No, he will become an evil incarnate.

The hypocrisy of these people is only matched by their selfishness and cruelty. These ch*&(iyas and their bosses must be punished for their terrorism.

And all the nautanki that one hears from west about supposed chemical attack by Syria?!! What about chemical warfare in Vietnam?

Really despicable!

The below interview is very enlightening about war:



In the above interview, some really startling revelations about the war and the actions of Amirkhan are given.

And also the movie Pentagon Papers based on real life incidents about the leak by Elsberg is a good movie which reveals that the war with Vietnam was manufactured in small doses from the time of Truman. The movie also portrays that Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked by the Amirkhan to have an excuse to invade Vietnam.

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India-Vietnam naval ties to deepen strategic partnership - Suhasini Haider, The Hindu
India and Vietnam are aided by the fact that they had relied heavily on Russian military hardware in the past and have capabilities that can be shared, says a source.

Vietnam’s Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung and his delegation, on a two-day visit from Monday, will discuss placing orders for offshore patrol vehicles at Indian shipyards using the $100-million line of credit provided by India under a defence agreement.

The latest MoU will further solidify India’s assistance on vessel construction and submarine training to Vietnam’s forces as part of the Strategic Partnership signed between the two countries in 2007.

The agreements for the OVL to prospect in two more fields, along with another MoU for PetroVietnam to prospect for oil off the Indian coast in the Bay of Bengal, will have a geostrategic impact
. In September 2011, China issued a demarche to India over Vietnam’s decision to allow the OVL to prospect in blocks number 127 and 128. At the time, India cited Vietnam’s sovereign claims over the blocks.

Asked on Friday about the possibility of China’s objections over agreements during the current visit, Ministry of External Affairs spokesperson Syed Akbaruddin said, “Vietnam has offered us some blocks in the South China Sea, we are examining it. If they are commercially viable for us, certainly we will take those into account and proceed further.”

New airlinks

India and Vietnam will announce new airlinks, with Jet Airways set to start direct flights connecting Delhi and Mumbai to Ho Chi Minh City on November 5, while Vietnam Airlines will commence operations between Hanoi and Delhi in 2015.

Mr. Modi and Mr. Nguyen are likely to announce new target figures for trade and infrastructure investment. India has won bids for highway management and thermal power plants with the total investment in Vietnam totalling $1 billion.

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Oil, defence top Vietnam PM’s agenda - Suhasini Haider, The Hindu
Vietnam’s Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung will arrive in India on Monday for a two-day visit, and the bilateral agenda will be seen as another strong assertion of India’s interests in the South China Sea. China will be closely watching the visit.

The Hindu has learnt that India and Vietnam will sign three agreements, one an MoU on prospecting by OVL (ONGC Videsh Ltd.) in two more fields in the South China Sea. Discussions will be held on supplying naval vessels to Vietnam. Both issues had seen statements of concern from Beijing in the past. However, officials confirmed that the current blocks under discussion to be signed during this visit, part of a batch of five offered by Vietnam in November, are in Vietnamese territorial waters, and not disputed.

The agreements, which will include oil exploration, economic and cultural cooperation, will be signed after meetings between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Mr. Nguyen in Delhi on Tuesday.

During President Pranab Mukherjee’s visit to Vietnam last month, India signed a defence agreement extending a $100-million line of credit to the country. The agreement, which came just ahead of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to India, sparked off a Foreign Ministry statement in Beijing that China would not “support any agreement” that dealt with any “waters administered by China, or is not approved by China.”

According to a source, Mr. Nguyen and his delegation will discuss placing orders for offshore patrol vehicles at Indian shipyards using the $100-million line of credit.

India has been boosting Vietnamese naval capabilities in the contentious waters.

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Re: Vietnam - News & Discussions

Postby vijaykarthik » 27 Oct 2014 18:36

Some more. Not just Vietnam. Its about the Indo-Pacific rim.

http://www.defensenews.com/article/2014 ... y=nav|head

Interesting days. Hope we can do good on the timelines and ensure that the IOT dominance is maintained. Its a critical piece of the future jigsaw

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Postby Philip » 28 Oct 2014 05:14

Indo-Viet ties are absolutely essential to keep China off balance in the Indo-China-Sea and for the IN to play its vital role in the Indo-Asia-Pacific region.If the Chinese can take over Gwadar and park its subs at Colombo,plus making huge plays for naval bases on the African coast,expanding its influence in Mauritius,etc.,there is no reason why India should shy away from playing its legitimate role in a region known as "INDO-CHINA".

Here is an interesting take on the two major Viet cities which shows the deep national pride of the Vietnamese esp. those who reside in Hanoi,the ancient capital.

Vietnam’s Tale of Two Cities

http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/vietnams ... wo-cities/

Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi embody a larger struggle in Vietnam between traditional culture and modernity.
By Elisabeth Rosen
October 24, 2014

The first time she visited Ho Chi Minh City, Le Thuan Uyen wanted to move there. For the UK-educated arts manager, whose parents, grandparents and great-grandparents grew up in Hanoi, the southern city offered an easier alternative to life in the capital.

“Everything was structured. It wasn’t as chaotic. I wouldn’t have to worry too much about money,” Uyen told me. “But once I got more deeply involved with the arts scene in Hanoi, I decided to stay.”

Ho Chi Minh City has been Vietnam’s commercial center since the 1800s, when the French-built port made the city a regional trading hub. In recent years, its soaring GDP and friendly environment for foreign investment convinced many that the city was Vietnam’s success story. A recent Bloomberg article crowed that Ho Chi Minh City had “turned the tables on Hanoi” for economic growth.

But many in the north argue that the thousand-year-old capital, where foreign retail and fast food chains have been slow to make inroads and government bureaucracy is often impenetrable, has a unique spirit that fosters creativity.

“I find Hanoi more artisanal. You can sustain a business model by developing a local product in your own way rather than selling out to industrial brands,” said Dan Dockery, co-owner of bar CAMA and restaurant Highway 4. “You could look at the lack of Western chains as conservative and backwards, or you can see it in a more positive way. We have good coffee. Why do we need some low-quality foreign brand that’s three times the price?”

To outsiders, the Hanoi – Ho Chi Minh City divide may seem to reflect the structural tension between communism and capitalism, with the southern city’s more developed economy indicating more openness to individual enterprise. But in fact, Vietnam’s tale of two cities — like the age-old differences between Beijing and Shanghai or Kyoto and Tokyo — has more to do with history and culture than with ideology. Hanoians don’t dispute Ho Chi Minh City’s economic success. What they take issue with is the notion that such success is necessary or desirable, or that the forms that success takes make a city attractive. “Saigon feels a bit like Bangkok,” said art dealer Minh Nguyet Bui, whose family has lived in Hanoi for generations. “It’s not real Vietnam.”

“Real” Hanoians like Bui are fiercely proud of the city’s long cultural history. Hanoi has held the reputation of being the country’s “cultural capital” since the 11th century, when aspiring mandarins first studied at the Temple of Literature. Today, the city’s creative community is thriving, particularly when it comes to the arts. Explaining why she decided to stay in Hanoi, Uyen told me: “The creative energy in Hanoi is more intense.”

While Ho Chi Minh City also has a developed arts scene, its polished shows and market-oriented artists contrast sharply with Hanoi’s more experimental brand of creativity. “Saigon people tend to prefer pretty-looking, easy-to-digest art,” said Ho Chi Minh City-based artist Thao Nguyen. “The art in Hanoi can be more critical and conceptual.”


Something about Hanoians’ attachment to the city seems to defy economic rationality.
“Most Hanoians will acknowledge that life in Ho Chi Minh City is probably more comfortable, with relatively higher wages and lower prices. But they stay in Hanoi because of the spirit of the place. There is an energy here that in part stems from this choice of putting spirit and meaning above material comfort,” said Mathias Rossignol, co-owner of Ham Hanh, a cafe and art space in Hanoi.

Ham Hanh came about as a side project of The Onion Cellar, an alternative culture collective that organizes offbeat film screenings, concerts and other events. Onion Cellar co-founder Hung Tran said that for “most Vietnamese people,” the difference between the cities was “obvious”: “Saigon is more commercial. Hanoi is more creative.”

Tran’s blunt distinction highlights the strong belief among Hanoians that commercial and creative success are mutually exclusive.
“The commercial ethos is clearly more developed in the south. In some ways, Hanoi’s artistic integrity is a rally against this. For Hanoi to maintain its uniqueness, it almost has to rebuff the concept of business and art being bedfellows,” said artist and designer Dorian Gibb, one of the founders of creative workspace Work Room Four.

Bill Nguyen, co-founder of Manzi, a well-known art space and cafe, contrasted the “almost too developed” arts scene in the south with Hanoi’s more “down-to-earth” culture. “Everything feels safe there because it’s so structured and institutionalized. But that doesn’t leave room for the imagination,” he said. “Here there’s still room for experimentation.”

However, Nguyen made clear that the lack of a business mindset also had its drawbacks.
“Friends from Saigon say that creative people here don’t know how to make money using their creativity,” he said.

The gap between Hanoi’s creative achievements and Ho Chi Minh City’s commercial success is pervasive in all of Vietnam’s cultural industries. Most of the Vietnamese movies screened at international film festivals are made in Hanoi, such as “Dap Canh Giua Khong Trung” (Flapping in the Middle of Nowhere), which won an award at the Venice Film Festival in September for best director’s debut, and “Bi, Dung So!” (Bi, Don’t Be Afraid!) which won prizes at the Cannes and Stockholm film festivals in 2010. Yet domestic cinemas are dominated by Hollywood-style action flicks and romantic comedies produced in Ho Chi Minh City.

“In the south, they want to make films that Vietnamese people will pay to see. I don’t think that any film made in the north has ever made a profit. In fact, most films made in Hanoi never even play in the cinemas,” said Gerry Herman, director of Hanoi Cinematheque.

What the film sector really needs, Herman said, is a “middle ground” that would combine Hanoi’s artistic aspirations with the southern city’s commercial acumen — something you could say for all of Vietnam’s cultural industries.

“A lot of Vietnam’s economy is based on either outsourcing or copycat products. That’s a very fragile model which cannot sustain long-term growth,” Ham Hanh owner Rossignol said. “No really new ideas can be born without an environment of creativity and originality.”

Yet Hanoi has a growing number of innovators who combine creativity and tradition with commercial know-how, like designer Vu Thao, who won the British Council’s Young Creative Entrepreneur Award last month. Her designs, which she produces under the label Kilomet 109, draw inspiration from the colorful garments handmade by ethnic minority tribes in rural northern villages.


“Economically, Saigon is more exciting. People there are easy to work with and more open, and so are the authorities. But even as my business grows internationally, the things that make my work stand out are the things that are from the north,” Thao said.

Many of the city’s newest creative endeavors are both determinedly non-commercial and local collaborations. Last year, a group of Hanoi DJs and musicians launched Quest, a music festival without a single sponsor. Rather than inviting international headliners, the festival featured local talent; tickets sold out within weeks. Co-organizer Luke Poulson, who teaches English while moonlighting as a DJ, drew a sharp contrast between Hanoi’s “experimental evenings” with the “huge club nights” taking place in Ho Chi Minh City.

“The fact that we could create a full lineup for an entire festival by using mostly people from Hanoi just shows how much creative output the city has,” Poulson said.

An even better example would be Zone 9, a creative space in a former pharmaceutical complex that signaled a new era for the arts scene when it opened in 2013. Although Zone 9 was closed after a fire burned down a bar that was under construction, many of the venues that set up shop there have re-opened elsewhere, including Work Room Four.

The creation of Quest and Zone 9 suggests that a city’s success is not only defined by skyscrapers and foreign investment — something that has often been overlooked in the quest to build modern Asian urban superpowers.


“The benefit of creativity and the arts has nothing to do with money,” said John Kis, who owns Hanoi Social Club cafe. “A city without performances or music or galleries is not a city I want to live in.”


Elisabeth Rosen is a journalist based in Hanoi


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As China flexes its muscles, Vietnam seeks India’s ‘active support’ on South China Sea row

PTI | Oct 27, 2014,

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 950403.cms


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India to supply Vietnam with naval vessels: Modi



Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced on Tuesday that India will soon be supplying naval vessels to Vietnam. This is the first significant military transfer to Hanoi at a time when it is embroiled in a territorial dispute with China.


The announcement came after Modi held talks with his visiting Vietnamese counterpart, Nguyen Tan Dung, during which the two sides agreed to modernise the Vietnamese military as well as raise Indian involvement in Vietnam's energy sector.


Both India and Vietnam have territorial disputes with China - India in the Himalayas and Vietnam in the South China Sea. New Delhi and Hanoi are beefing up defences even as they ramp up commercial ties with China, the world's second-largest economy.

"Our defence cooperation with Vietnam is among our most important," Modi told reporters, adding it will be expanded.


Top of the agenda is the sale of four offshore patrol vessels that Vietnam wants to improve its defences in the energy rich-South China Sea where it is locked in competing claims with China.

Talks on the naval craft have gathered pace since last month when India announced a $100 million credit line for defence purchases, an Indian government official earlier told Reuters.

"We will quickly operationalise the $100 million Line of Credit that will enable Vietnam to acquire new naval vessels from India," Modi said.

Vietnam wants the craft for surveillance off its coast and around its military bases in the Spratly island chain in the South China Sea where it is building a credible naval deterrent to China with Kilo-class submarines from Russia.


Claims by an increasingly assertive China over most of the South China have set it directly against U.S. allies Vietnam and the Philippines. Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also claim parts of the waters.

Beijing's placement of an oil rig in disputed waters earlier this year infuriated Vietnam but the coastguard vessels it dispatched to the platform were each time chased off by larger Chinese boats.

India and Vietnam called for peaceful resolution of the disputes in the region.

"They agreed that freedom of navigation and overflight in the East Sea/South China Sea should not be impeded and called the parties concerned to exercise restraint, avoid threats or use of force," a joint statement said.


The two sides also signed an agreement under which India's state-run oil exploration arm, ONGC Videsh Ltd, will enhance cooperation with PetroVietnam.

"The agreement underlines Vietnamese invitation to OVL to expand its presence in Vietnam and further consolidate cooperation in exploration and other areas between the two countries in energy sector," the joint statement said.


China has previously criticised India's cooperation with Vietnam in the oil and gas sector, saying its exploration activities off the Vietnam coast are illegal.

On Tuesday, responding to a question on India and Vietnam exploring oil together in the South China Sea, Beijing said it would have no problem so long as it was carried out in waters that were not disputed.

"China has indisputable sovereignty over the Spratly Islands and its adjacent waters. We have no objection to countries who want to carry out legitimate and lawful oil and gas cooperation in waters that we have no dispute over," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said.

"But if such cooperation harms China's sovereignty and interests, we will resolutely oppose it."


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Just quoting my first post on this thread from Oct 14, 2010, four years ago!

RajeshA wrote:Considering that Vietnam is going to be India's new best friend for the next decades, I thought it appropriate that we all ought to get better acquainted with Vietnam. Hence this thread.


Things are finally moving!

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Re: Vietnam - News & Discussions

Postby ShauryaT » 28 Oct 2014 19:12

I would love to see a road connection from Kolkata to Hanoi being launched - A specific plan to connect SE Asia to the Indian land mass is needed, along with Gas/Oil pipelines from Myanmar. Maybe a free trade zone in the region with eventual visa free travel?

Right now India seems boxed in on its land routes and they ought to open up.

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Postby chaanakya » 28 Oct 2014 19:29

I think there is a plan for that. Something we had discussed earlier. I would love that rail and road link plus connectivity with national power grid of those countries for export and import of power.

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Postby SSridhar » 28 Oct 2014 20:07

As part of the trilateral dialogue between India, US and Japan, a trilateral highway linking India, Myanmar and Thailand (the ambitious draw it further to Hanoi, Vietnam) is likely to see more Japanese and US interest. This is an India-led project due for completion in 2016, but by itself, India is unlikely to make the target.

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Postby Philip » 29 Oct 2014 04:01

BMos missiles.When Pres.Putin comes-a-visiting,he should support the sale of BMos to the Viets as Russia is anyway supplying it with Sukhois,Kilo subs,etc.,for which we are training the Vietnamese to operate. BMos land batteries apart from naval versions will give the Vietnamese significantly in creased defecne capability.BMos batteries on islands controlled by them will make mincemeat of any PLAN forces that might try to invade.

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Postby Philip » 29 Oct 2014 06:58

BMos missile up XI Gins bunghole!

Great news (TOI) that Indo-Viet defence ties will be enhanced.BMos on the cards,Russia reportedly OK to the sale,N-reactors too (220MW),have been planned for some time,apart from other agreements.Here is an earlier report as well.Vietnam should be to India what Pakistan is to China,a strong eco and military power which could also develop its own N-capability in the future.
The next step after these agreements is that of naval facilities at Cam Ranh Bay,etc.,so that Indian warships,subs and aircraft can operate from there monitoring the Indo-China Sea.The govt. should also sell/transfer some of its Dornier surveillance aircraft to Vietnam as we manufacture the same here.They will be invaluable to the Vietnamese to monitor their island territories and can be acquired in adequate number as their cost is low.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 965272.cms
India ignores China's frown, offers defence boost to Vietnam
Indrani Bagchi,TNN | Oct 29, 2014

NEW DELHI: India on Tuesday took a decisive step towards countering China's assertive power, by committing to help Vietnam's defence modernization, a move that will resonate unpleasantly in Beijing.

After his meeting with visiting Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung, Narendra Modi said, "Our defence cooperation with Vietnam is among our most important ones. India remains committed to the modernization of Vietnam's defence and security forces. This will include expansion of our training programme, which is already very substantial, joint-exercises and cooperation in defence equipment. We will quickly operationalise the $100 million line of credit that will enable Vietnam acquire new naval vessels from India."

For the first time, India sent clear signals that it may be willing to sell the Brahmos short range cruise missiles to Vietnam, a long-standing demand by Hanoi. The previous Indian government was a little hesitant, citing reservations by Russia (which is a co-developer). Russia has now indicated its willingness. India will wait to enter the MTCR (Missile Technology Control Regime) before making a sale, but both countries have decisively crossed this hurdle.
*(there is no need to get anyone's permission other than the JV partner Russia, if the range is below 300km)

Vietnam's importance to New Delhi was evident when President Pranab Mukherjee paid a state visit to that country, almost coinciding with Chinese President Xi Jinping's first visit to India.

READ ALSO: After submarine training, India likely to train Vietnamese pilots to fly Sukhois


China warns India about taking up Vietnam's offer for oil exploration in disputed sea

Making Vietnam the heart of India's Asia-Pacific policy, the Indian government has sent a clear signal to China that it would actively pursue its interests in the region. The PM tweeted: "My government has promptly & purposefully intensified our engagement in Asia Pacific region, which is critical to India's future." Interestingly, China's state councilor Yang Jiechi (who is also the special representative for India) was in Hanoi on Monday to look for a solution to their maritime territorial disputes.

Away from the media glare, Indian and Vietnamese leaders agreed to work with Japan in a trilateral format to coordinate positions on security and economic policies. India already has a trilateral with US and Japan, but a Vietnam-India-Japan trio would have big implications for the balance of power in Asia.
*( which would also give it some freedom from US interference)

Significantly, India has agreed to share civil nuclear cooperation with Vietnam. The Indian atomic energy sector has wanted to sell the DAE's small 220 MW nuclear reactors to Vietnam. While the 2008 NSG waiver for India opens it up for nuclear commerce, there are several other steps before India can actually export nuclear reactors. But the process has started.

Modi reiterated India's stand that territorial disputes in the South China Sea should be resolved according to international law. China uses its historical claim to draw a '9-dash line' on the sea which it claims as its own.


http://articles.economictimes.indiatime ... nce-system
Government plans to export BrahMos missiles, Tejas, air defence system to Vietnam, Indonesia and Venezuela
Dipanjan Roy Chaudhury, ET Bureau Sep 3, 2014,

(Indo-Vietnam defence ties…)
NEW DELHI: The Modi government is quietly working on a plan to export defence equipment and armaments produced in India to friendly countries. A beginning could be made by exporting BrahMos missiles to Southeast Asia and South American countries. Vietnam, Indonesia and Venezuela have expressed willingness to procure the supersonic missile jointly produced by India and Russia, sources indicated to ET.

Indo-Vietnam defence ties are on an upward trajectory and Hanoi has been keen for the last few years to purchase this missile. However, there was no progress under the UPA government on the issue, sources indicated. BrahMos missiles have been inducted in all three defence services. The inter-governmental agreement between India and Russia for development of BrahMos missile (290-kmrange) also stipulates use of this advanced system to be inducted into the Indian and Russian armed forces as well as export to friendly countries.

Vietnam and Russia are partners since the days of the Cold War and it can use Russian made defence equipment. India will sign an agreement for supplying defence equipment to Vietnam, during President Pranab Mukherjee's trip from September 14-17. India and Indonesia also share good defence ties that encompasses training and defence exercises.

Recently, Prime Minister narendra Modi had stated that India should move towards self-reliance in producing military weapons and systems and also look for exporting them to friendly nations.

The idea for defence co-development and joint production is not only to obtain cutting-edge technology and self-sufficiency in the long run but also export jointly developed products. So far, India depends on imports for meeting over 65% of its weapons requirement and has been branded as largest importer of arms by international think tanks. India could also export indigenously developed 'Tejas' - Light Combat Aircraft, 'Akash' - air defence system and 'Prahar' class of missiles to friendly countries. Tejas is a lightweight, multi-role, single-engine tactical fighter aircraft.

Akash, a surface-to-air missile, has a range of 25 km. Prahar is a 150 km-range tactical missile system. Several countries have shown interest in the Akash missile system, which was ready to be inducted into the Army. LCA is likely to be ready for induction into IAF by the end of this year after attaining the final operational clearance. Sources also claim that Indian weapon systems are cheaper than Chinese systems.

While India does not a formal defence exports policy, it had earlier exported rifles to Nepal and Oman, besides supplying defence equipment to Myanmar including tanks, radars to Sri Lanka, defence equipment to Maldives, maritime patrol boats to Mauritius and defence spare parts to Vietnam.

India's current norm for defence exports involve supplies not only to friendly countries but also to countries which do not have civil war. "We do not want a situation where arms supplied by us is used by one group against another within the boundary of one country.

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Postby SSridhar » 29 Oct 2014 07:13

Philip wrote:BMos missiles.When Pres.Putin comes-a-visiting,he should support the sale of BMos to the Viets as Russia is anyway supplying it with Sukhois,Kilo subs,etc., . . .

Unless of course China works on Putin and blocks the sale. Russia is these days at the mercy of China. Brahmos is an entirely different class of threat for the Chinese naval assets and shipping. While China has anti-dotes for Kilos and Sukhois, there is none for BrahMos. It is very destabilizing and threatening for China. I expect China to bring in extraordinary pressure on Russia to stop this sale. Indian diplomacy will have to pull all stops to make this sale successful.

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Postby Philip » 29 Oct 2014 07:19

The media report indicates that Russia is on board.China cannot object as it is buying top end Russian malware.Russia too would want India to buy large qtys. of Russian def. eqpt. Unless China stops arming Pakistan with N-weapons,missiles,etc. why should India and Russia stop sales to a friendly country? In any case India can export whatever desi missile it has from Prithvi to Prahar and wink at Vietnamese developing their own "Agony" class ,which if N-tipped in the future would be far more devastating to China than BMos.

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Postby ShauryaT » 29 Oct 2014 07:57

Philip wrote:BMos missiles.When Pres.Putin comes-a-visiting,he should support the sale of BMos to the Viets as Russia is anyway supplying it with Sukhois,Kilo subs,etc.,for which we are training the Vietnamese to operate. BMos land batteries apart from naval versions will give the Vietnamese significantly in creased defecne capability.BMos batteries on islands controlled by them will make mincemeat of any PLAN forces that might try to invade.
It is more strategic than that for India. Hainan, the PLAN sub base is in targeting distance.

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SSridhar wrote:
Philip wrote:BMos missiles.When Pres.Putin comes-a-visiting,he should support the sale of BMos to the Viets as Russia is anyway supplying it with Sukhois,Kilo subs,etc., . . .

Unless of course China works on Putin and blocks the sale. Russia is these days at the mercy of China. Brahmos is an entirely different class of threat for the Chinese naval assets and shipping. While China has anti-dotes for Kilos and Sukhais, there is none for BrahMos. It is very destabilizing and threatening for China. I expect China to bring in extraordinary pressure on Russia to stop this sale. Indian diplomacy will have to pull all stops to make this sale successful.
Word is the sale is on!

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http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asi ... 39786.html
Prime Minister Narendra Modi said India would sell naval patrol boats to Vietnam under a US$100 million line of credit to the Southeast Asian nation, which is seeking to improve its defences in the disputed South China Sea.

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Joint Statement on the State Visit of Prime Minister of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam to India

The Prime Minister of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, H.E. Mr. Nguyen Tan Dung accompanied by his spouse paid a State Visit to the Republic of India from 27-28 October 2014 at the invitation of the Prime Minister of India, H.E. Shri Narendra Modi. Prime Minister Dung was accorded a ceremonial reception at the Rashtrapati Bhavan and laid a wreath at the memorial of Mahatma Gandhi at Raj Ghat. Prime Minister Modi held official talks with Prime Minister Dung and hosted a banquet in his honour. Prime Minister Dung called on President of India, H.E. Shri Pranab Mukherjee and met Vice President H.E. Shri Hamid Ansari, Speaker of the Lok Sabha H.E. Smt. Sumitra Mahajan and External Affairs Minister H.E. Smt. Sushma Swaraj. Prime Minister Dung also visited the holy city of Bodh Gaya. He had a meeting with the Chief Minister of Bihar, H.E. Shri Jitan Ram Manjhi. A Conclave of business leaders from both countries was held during the visit.

Read complete story at http://www.narendramodi.in/joint-statem ... -to-india/

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The recent visit of the Defence Minister of Vietnam is his second within 4 months. In January 2015, the two countries upgraded their strategic defence dialogue from the secretaries level to that of the level of Defence Ministers. The two defence ministers, Phung Quang Thanh of Vietnam and Manohar Parrikar of India, chaired the first such dialogue in new Delhi that month. in fact, there has been a flurry of high-level contacts recently. Pres. Pranab Mukherjee visited Vietnam in september 2014. In October 2014, the Vietnamese Prime Minister, Nguyen Tan Dung visited India. The Indian Army Chief, Gen. Dalbir Suhag, visited Vietnam in December 2014 to strengthen the army-to-army relationship between the two countries.

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Postby A_Gupta » 29 May 2015 22:17

A month old, but relevant to understanding Vietnam's strategy:
http://blogs.cfr.org/asia/2015/04/24/ph ... rtnership/
"Philippines and Vietnam Rapidly Building Strategic Partnership".

Manila and Hanoi will formalize a strategic partnership in the coming weeks, according to Philippine media. The strategic partnership likely will include a commitment to work together to resolve maritime disputes in the South China Sea, a commitment to holding joint naval exercises, and an agreement to conduct joint scientific studies in the South China Sea—studies that could potentially relate to hydrocarbons or fisheries, the Sea’s two most valuable resources.

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"Vietnam, US discuss land reclamation in South China Sea"
http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-vi ... ea-2091191
US Defense Secretary Ash Carter discussed his call for an end to island-building in the South China Sea in talks on Monday with his Vietnamese counterpart, who said Vietnam had not expanded its islands but had done work to prevent wave erosion. The response appeared to fall short of the immediate halt to land reclamation activity and further militarization of the islands that Carter sought in an initial appeal last week in Hawaii, and again at a security conference in Singapore.

Carter told a joint news conference with Defense Minister Phung Quang Thanh that he and the general had discussed his proposal for a permanent halt to reclamation and militarization of the islands and that Vietnam was considering the idea.

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http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/ ... -india-and
Smugglers are shipping hundreds of thousands of tonnes of beef from India into Guangxi through Vietnam, exposing a second illegal route into China, news website Thepaper.cn said yesterday.

The website said it had uncovered a smuggling route that was shipping the beef into the Vietnamese city of Haiphong. The beef would transit through Mong Cai, also in Vietnam, before finding its way across the border into Guangxi, after which it was served up in hotpot restaurants across the country.

This route was in addition to one in which illegal frozen meat was smuggled from the Americas through Hong Kong and Haiphong and onto Guangxi’s border city of Dongxing and Guangzhou in Guangdong.

Frozen beef is a key ingredient of Chongqing- and Beijing-style hotpot.

News of the smuggling routes comes amid a crackdown by Chinese customs across 14 provinces this month that seized more than 100,000 tonnes of frozen chicken, beef, pork and other meat, worth over 3 billion yuan (HK$3.8 billion). More than 20 groups of smugglers have been detained.

In one operation, in Changsha, Hunan province, the frozen meat – some of it more than 40 years old – had been smuggled into Guangxi via Hong Kong.

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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... jin%2e1c6n

To date, Vietnam's naval forces include the first three boats supplied by Russia - the Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh and Haiphong

HANOI, June 30. /TASS/. The fourth of a total of six Varshavyanka class submarines of Project 636.1 that Vietnam ordered from Russia has been delivered to Cam Ranh Port in the central part of the country on Tuesday.

The Da Nang submarine was transported by the Dutch heavy load carrier vessel Rolldok Star. Its unloading and the submarine's putting afloat will be carried out within the next two days after all the necessary administrative formalities and customs documentation execution are completed.

To date, Vietnam's naval forces include the first three boats supplied by Russia - the Hanoi, Ho Chi Minh and Haiphong. The submarines equipped with the standard package are supplied to the Vietnamese side with the Club-S missile strike system.

The delivery to the customer of the entire batch of the boats that are built at Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg is planned to be completed in 2016.

Russia is a traditional partner of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV) in the sphere of military-technical cooperation. In recent years the sides have signed contracts worth more than $4.5 billion on the supply of Russia's newest weapons to Vietnam. The most significant deals were the contract on the supply of a batch of the Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighters to Vietnam, which is estimated at some $1 billion, and a $2 billion contract on the sale of 6 Varshavyanka class submarines to Vietnam.

This year, Russia will deliver to Vietnam 10 Sukhoi Su-30MK2 fighters, and so the number of this type of aircraft in the Vietnamese People's Army will reach to 36.

According to the Vietnamese government, Vietnam's annual defence spending amounts to some $1.5 billion, which is equivalent to 1.8% of national GDP.


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"ONGC Videsh Ltd not to exit Vietnam block despite poor prospectivity"
http://post.jagran.com/ongc-videsh-ltd- ... 1436699920
OVL has decided to seek a third extension of exploration licence for Block 128 to maintain India's strategic interest in the South China Sea, a top official said.

The block lies in the part of South China Sea over which China claims sovereignty. In 2011, Beijing had warned OVL that its exploration activities off the Vietnam coast were illegal and violated China's sovereignty, but the company continued exploring for oil and gas.

"OVL has not found any hydrocarbons in the block but will continue operations in line with India's strategic and diplomatic interest in the region," he said. The extended exploration licence for Block 128 is due expire this month and the company is seeking an extension.

OVL reckons that if it was to exit the block, it would have to pay $15-20 million penalty for not drilling a committed exploration well. By continuing with the block, it is not just saving on the penalty but also helping New Delhi maintain its strategic interest in the region, he said.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 708124.cms
Vietnam grants amnesty to more than 18,000 prisoners
HANOI: Vietnam has granted amnesty to more than 18,000 prisoners to mark the 70th anniversary of its independence from France.

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India plans to revive drilling off Vietnam coast
http://timesofoman.com/article/66437/Bu ... -ambitions
HANOI: India’s state-owned Oil & Natural Gas Corp. (ONGC) plans to revive exploration activity in waters off Vietnam’s coastline that are also claimed by China, a person with direct knowledge of the matter said.

The company has approval from Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s administration to drill exploratory wells in a disputed part of the South China Sea that it acquired rights to in 2006, the person said, asking not to be identified because the discussions are confidential. ONGC last attempted drilling in 2009, three years before China invited bids for the same area.

The move to assert India’s commercial rights in a contested area may be a sign Modi is joining the US and other Asia-Pacific nations to check China’s territorial ambitions. Previous efforts by Vietnam and the Philippines to explore in disputed parts of the South China Sea have led to clashes with China.

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India, VN reflect on relations
http://vietnamnews.vn/life-style/275162 ... tions.html
HCM CITY (VNS)— An exhibition reflecting diplomatic relations between India and Viet Nam opened yesterday at the War Remnants Museum in HCM City.

Indian – Viet Nam: For Peace and Development was jointly organised by the Consulate General of India in HCM City and the museum to commemorate the 125th birth anniversary of President Ho Chi Minh, 70th anniversary of Viet Nam National Day, and 43rd anniversary of full diplomatic relations between the two countries.

It showcases 73 documentary photos and 160 published photos on official visits and trips held by Vietnamese and Indian leaders from 1954, depicting the support of Indian people during Viet Nam's revolution for independence.

The highlight of the exhibition is a series of photos about President Ho Chi Minh to India in 1958. The President had meetings with Indian leaders, scholars, cultural experts, students and people.

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http://tuoitrenews.vn/politics/30337/in ... fense-ties
"Indian Air Force Chief visits Vietnam to bolster defense ties"

The defense ties between Vietnam and India have been increasingly growing after the two countries signed a joint vision statement on bilateral defense relations in May 2015, a senior Vietnamese official has said.

Vietnamese Minister of Defense General Phung Quang Thanh offered the comment while receiving Indian Air Force Chief Arup Raha, who is also Chairman of the Chiefs of Staff Committee, in Hanoi on Thursday.

Raha arrived in Vietnam on Wednesday for a three-day visit at the invitation of Deputy Defense Minister Senior Lieutenant General Do Ba Ty, with whom the Indian official had talks.

General Thanh hailed Raha’s visit, considering it a boost to the traditional friendship, mutual understanding and trust between the two countries and peoples, particularly in defense ties.

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Postby Philip » 12 Sep 2015 17:37

India should turn Vietnam into our "all-weather friend" just as China does with Pak,and open the defence ware list almost totally.This ould include even strat missiles and N-tech so that the Vietnamese can build their own WMD in the future.

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http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/ ... 32954.html
Hanoi: The inaugural Indian Film Festival Vietnam (IFFV) will take place here from December 18 to bridge the gap between the entertainment industries of the two countries.

Three award winning filmmakers from India, producer of hit films like Saheb Biwi aur Gangster, Saheb Biwi aur Gangster Returns, Bullett Raja & Revolver Rani & CEO Wave Cinemas Rahul Mittra and directors Rakesh OmPrakash Mehra & Umesh Shukla will open this six-day fest, which will conclude on December 23 and be held at the National Cinema Centre in Hanoi.

The festival will showcase films from or about India. The line-up includes "Bhaag Milkha Bhaag", "3 Idiots", "OMG - Oh My God!", "Wake Up Sid", "Paheli", "Jodhaa Akbar", "Dil Chahta Hai", "Maqbool" and "Taare Zameen Par", apart from others.

The Indian filmmakers will also attend a seminar on "Vietnam -India Cinema Cooperation and its role in Promotion of Tourism" and will be taken across Vietnam's major cities in order to offer its exotic locations for future film shoots.

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http://www.thanhniennews.com/politics/i ... 57775.html
"India sets up space facility in Vietnam to monitor East Sea: report"
India has set up a satellite monitoring station in Ho Chi Minh City which is expected to be its strategic base in the East Sea region, according to media reports.

The Economic Times said New Delhi has spent about US$23 million to set up the Data Reception and Tracking and Telemetry Station, which will be activated soon and linked to an existing station in Indonesia.

It said the facility will help the Indian Space Research Organization track satellites launched from India and receive data from them. India also has a satellite tracking station in Brunei.

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http://vietnamnews.vn/life-style/280756 ... -2016.html
We ran a news story on January 4 regarding the excavation of the Luy Lau Citadel in Bac Ninh Province. Now, Culture Vulture interviews Le Van Chien, head of the Museum of National History's excavation team, to get the facts in detail.


Could you tell us more about the importance of the Luy Lau area?

There have been many reports about Luy Lau. It was the centre of a large area, the Jiaozhi region, which is located in the north of modern Viet Nam, from the year 100BC until the 10th century.

There were not enough statistics about the population of the area, but it was the oldest and most important centre of Buddhism in Asia. Historical records show that merchants from India stopped in Luy Lau before they went further inland to China. Indian merchants studied Han Chinese scripts before they went to China, but monks from China had to study Sanskrit before they went to India to study Buddhism.

This year, we found the remnants of the eastern and western walls of the earthen citadel. We also suggested that the north gate could be located in the site we found, but this needs further evidence.

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Postby Philip » 07 Jan 2016 16:06

Great aerial pic in the link showing the features of the bay,a perfect natural harbour,which was the HQ for the USN in the Vietnam War.

South China Sea dispute: Vietnamese subs deployed as deterrent to China

Date January 7, 2016
Lindsay Murdoch
South-East Asia correspondent for Fairfax Media

An older Russian-built, Kilo-class diesel submarine. Photo: Handout
South China Sea dispute: full coverage

Bangkok: The first of Vietnam's new advanced Kilo-class submarines have begun patrolling disputed waters of the South China Sea, as deterrents to China's 10 times-bigger navy, Vietnamese officials and diplomatic sources say.

Vietnam is also expanding use of its strategically important Cam Ranh Bay deep-water harbour, where six of the submarines will be based by 2017.
A submarine can be seen in the middle pier at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam. Photo: Google Maps

The arrival of the submarines from Russia is a key part of Vietnam's biggest arms build-up since the height of the Vietnam War, which could significantly change the balance of power in the flashpoint South China Sea, analysts say.

As concern has increased about China's aggressive claims to almost all of the disputed water, Vietnam has been spending billions of dollars developing a submarine fleet, shore-based artillery and missile systems, multirole jet fighters and fast-attack ships, most of which have being bought from Russia and India.

Vietnam was also seeking more Russian jet-fighter bombers and was in talks with European and US arms manufacturers to buy fighter and maritime patrol planes and unarmed surveillance drones, Reuters said, quoting unnamed sources.

Cam Ranh Bay has been described as Vietnam's "ace up its sleeve" against China's vastly larger and better-equipped navy, air force and army. Photo: Google Maps

The country has also recently upgraded and expanded air defences, including obtaining early-warning surveillance radar from Israel and advanced S-300 surface-to-air missile batteries from Russia.

Vietnam's military spending had outstripped its south-east Asian neighbours over the past decade, the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said.

Carlyle Thayer, a professor from Australia's Defence Force Academy in Canberra, said when all six of Vietnam's submarines were operational they would provide a potent strike capability with Vietnam's anti-ship and land attack cruise missiles, adding greatly to the country's ability to confront an enemy in its waters.

"These weapons systems should enable Vietnam to make it extremely costly for China to conduct maritime operations within a 200 to 300-nautical-mile band of water along Vietnam's coast, from the Vietnam-China border in the north-east to around Da Nang in central Vietnam, if not further south," Professor Thayer said in a Thayer Consultancy background briefing paper.

Professor Thayer, an expert on Vietnam's military and the South China Sea dispute, said Vietnam's ability to deploy stealthily would be put at risk if China permanently stationed anti-submarine warfare aircraft on Fiery Cross Reef in the Spratly Islands, where China has built a 3000-metre airstrip and some basic infrastructure.

China landed a civilian plane on the strip on January 2, sparking a furious response from Vietnam, which labelled it a "serious infringement of the sovereignty of Vietnam".

Analysts said it was difficult to gauge Vietnam's actual capabilities and how well they were integrating complex new weapons systems.

But Professor Thayer said when all of Vietnam's current and future arms acquisitions were taken into account, "it is evident that Vietnam has taken major steps to develop a robust capacity to resist maritime intervention by a hostile power".

The diesel-electric submarines, also known as Varshavyanka-class, are designed for anti-submarine warfare, anti-shipping and anti-surface ship warfare, patrol and reconnaissance, and for the defence of naval bases and coastlines.

They are considered one of the quietest submarines, can operate in the South China's Sea's shallow water and have been upgraded constantly since the 1980s.

Analysts say they are more technologically advanced than other Russian-made submarines in China's fleet.

Analysts said Cam Ranh Bay was Vietnam's "ace up its sleeve" against China's vastly larger and better-equipped navy, air force and army, against which it fought a bloody war in 1979.

Vietnam has signalled it will invite non-Chinese navies such as Russia, the United States and Japan to send ships and submarines to the harbour for maintenance and logistics support.

The harbour, which was the US's centre of naval operations during the Vietnam War, provides ships easy access to the disputed water and the Indian Ocean through the Strait of Malacca.

The International Crisis Group has warned that the South China Sea risks becoming a theatre of big-power competition in 2016, as the US challenges China's large-scale land reclamation and construction on disputed reefs, which has set Beijing on a collision course with several south-east Asian nations.

A tribunal in The Hague is expected to announce its verdict in a landmark case filed by the Philippines accusing China of violating international law in the South China Sea, further raising tensions.

Malaysia, Brunei, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines and China have overlapping claims to the territory.

More than $US5 trillion ($7 trillion) of trade passes every year through the South China Sea, which is also believed to hold huge deposits of oil and gas.

- with Reuters
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/vietnamese- ... z3wYcdS2rq


The latest Chinese move.
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/ ... niban-reef
China building submarine base in Panganiban Reef

By Jaime Laude (The Philippine Star)
Palawan is just 135 nautical miles away from the Panganiban Reef, which is being developed by China into a submarine harbor,” KAI’s student volunteers said in their report after the Freedom Voyage. Images obtained with permission from CSIS/AMTI

MANILA, Philippines – China is reportedly building a submarine harbor at Panganiban (Mischief) Reef located in the West Philippine Sea near Palawan, the Kalayaan Atin Ito (KAI) movement said yesterday.

KAI has just concluded its nationwide maritime and territorial campaign that was highlighted by the “Freedom Voyage” to the disputed Spratly Islands to protest China’s invasion of the country’s maritime domain.

“Palawan is just 135 nautical miles away from the Panganiban Reef, which is being developed by China into a submarine harbor,” KAI’s student volunteers said in their report after the Freedom Voyage.

Former Marine captain Nicanor Faeldon, who initiated a peaceful protest against China’s occupation of Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal in Zambales in 2012, led the student-volunteers during the trip to Pag-asa Island on Dec. 24.

Located within the country’s 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone, Panganiban Reef was first occupied by Beijing in 1995, purportedly as a shelter for fishermen.

China gradually developed the area and transformed it into a naval facility.

“This evil project does not concern the Filipino alone but the entire humanity, including the peace-loving Chinese people,” KAI said, referring to China’s ongoing reclamation and construction activities on Panganiban Reef.

The Philippine Navy (PN), tasked to secure and guard the country’s maritime domain, has yet to comment on KAI’s claims.

Kalayaan Mayor Eugenio Bito-onon said the KAI report needs further validation, noting the route taken by the student-volunteers during the Freedom Voyage as well as their return trip to Palawan was nowhere near Panganiban Reef.

Bito-onon said the only thing confirmed for now is that China is continuously fortifying its presence on Panganiban Reef.

Panganiban Reef is not only located near Recto Bank where the Philippine government has oil exploration projects, but is also close to Ayungin Shoal, an area being guarded by Navymen (no longer the Marines) stationed on the grounded PN ship BRP Sierra Madre.

Meanwhile, state media reported yesterday that China landed two more planes on Kagitingan (Fiery Cross) Reef, despite international condem- nation of a landing at the same location days earlier. Vietnam also claims the reef.

Two civilian aircraft landed during “test flights,” the of- ficial Xinhua news agency said.

“This successful test flight proves that this airport is equipped with the capacity to ensure the safe operation of large civilian aircraft,” said Xinhua.

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Vietnam's beloved sacred turtle dies
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 652457.cms
In a story taught to all Vietnamese school children, the sacred turtle of Hoan Kiem is the custodian of the magic sword of Le Loi, a 15th century rebel leader who vanquished Chinese invaders.


A sacred giant turtle venerated as a symbol of Vietnam's independence struggle has died, state media said, prompting an outpouring of grief and fears the death bodes ill for an upcoming communist leadership handover.

The reptile, a critically endangered swinhoe softshell turtle, occupies a key mythological role in Vietnam -- in the past the turtle generally surfaced only rarely, with its sightings deemed auspicious.

Some scientists believe it was one of only four turtles -- better known as Yangtze giant softshells -- in existence. Two are in China and the other lives in a different lake in Hanoi.

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http://www.phuketgazette.net/world-news ... tnam/62964
India to build satellite tracking station in Vietnam that offers eye on China
PHUKET: India will set up a satellite tracking and imaging centre in southern Vietnam that will give Hanoi access to pictures from Indian earth observation satellites that cover the region, including China and the South China Sea, Indian officials said.

The move, which could irritate Beijing, deepens ties between India and Vietnam, who both have long-running territorial disputes with China.

While billed as a civilian facility - earth observation satellites have agricultural, scientific and environmental applications - security experts said improved imaging technology meant the pictures could also be used for military purposes.

Hanoi especially has been looking for advanced intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance technologies as tensions rise with China over the disputed South China Sea, they said.

"In military terms, this move could be quite significant," said Collin Koh, a marine security expert at Singapore's S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies. "It looks like a win-win for both sides, filling significant holes for the Vietnamese and expanding the range for the Indians." - See more at: http://www.phuketgazette.net/world-news ... 3dhBl.dpuf

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Re: Vietnam - News & Discussions

Postby ramana » 26 Jan 2016 04:38

Same news from Mil Forum..
Singha wrote:http://www.ibnlive.com/news/tech/india-to-build-satellite-tracking-station-in-vietnam-that-offers-eye-on-china-1194480.html

india to setup satellite imagery center in vietnam and provide access to IRS imagery.


IRS sats have better than 5m resolution.



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