Also, why did INC have to ditch Burqa and Vir, if this was indeed a selective leak from within ? These two were doing their work wonderfully well for the party a la the other sycophants (not discounting the lifafa, of course).SwamyG wrote:I know. It is interesting they are very active in pursuing this scam. It is a commie outlet. Why are they so involved?
Dec 18 (PTI) Janata Party (JP) President Subramanian Swamy has said there was a ''Rani'' (queen) apart from ''Raja'' involved in 2G spectrum scam.
"Besides Raja, a ''Rani'' was also involved in the 2G spectrum scam," Swamy said in a lecture series on ''Corruption - the biggest threat to India becoming a superpower'' held by an NGO here last night.
However, he did not clarify who the ''Rani'' was.
Swamy alleged that during the period of Raja as a Telecom Minister, 2G spectrum was alloted to the private companies after violating the rules and regulations and overlooking national security.
Ramana, the wages of having multiple wives and families. And, do not think for a moment that one side is less thuggish than the other because of femininity etc.ramana wrote:Interestng that one branch of MK's family is being roasted while the thuggish side is not entangled in this mess.
Former Telecom Minister, Mr A Raja, is misleading when he says that he was only following previously laid-down policies and procedures when he issued 2G spectrum in 2007-08, says Mr Arun Shourie.
Mr Raja's basic defence against allegations that he caused a loss to the exchequer by following the ‘first- come first-served' (FCFS) procedure when issuing spectrum is that the FCFS policy had been formed during the previous NDA Government and he had only been following a precedent. Mr Shourie, who was the Telecom Minister in the NDA Government, today said that that was precisely what Mr Raja did not do.
“What is first come, first served? It means that you deal with applications on the basis of the time and date of their arrival,” Mr Shourie wondered, delivering a speech on the ‘Real Significance of Scam' here today. The lecture was organised jointly by the Palkhivala Foundation and the Madras Chamber of Commerce and Industry (MCCI).
In September, when Mr Raja set about issuing additional spectrum, there were about 370 applications pending with his Ministry. He ignored all of them. Is this first-come, first-served? asked Mr Shourie.
Subsequently, without any consultation with anyone, Mr Raja changed the last date for receipt of applications from October 1, 2007 to September 25. When he still could not give spectrum to his friends, he also changed the very basis of ‘first-come, first-served' — instead of ‘time and date of arrival of application' it was changed to ‘time of fulfilment of conditions in the letter of intent'.
One of the conditions was to pay the fee. Some companies were ready with the draft within 41 minutes of opening the counter with a draft of Rs 1,650 crore. Even after that, Mr Raja changed the ‘priority list' and gave lucrative circles such as Punjab and Maharashtra to Swan Telecom, Mr Shourie said. Taking exception to Mr Raja's defence that he was only following previously-laid down procedures, Mr Shourie said that these were not the procedures previously laid down.
He said that the NDA Government only decided to split the licence fee from the fee payable for the spectrum. The Government also lowered the licence fee which enabled more players to enter the sector.
“I was always for auctioning the spectrum,” he said, adding that unlike during Mr Raja's time, all the decisions during the NDA Government were taken by an empowered group of ministers, of which the Finance Minister was the head.
Media man’s quizzing
Grapevine has it that during the search at Nira Radia’s farm house in South Delhi, CBI sleuths found a lesser-known TV Channel’s head exiting from the farm house. The CBI officers identified him and put him to a round of interrogation for nearly three hours.
http://www.dailypioneer.com/304961/Grapevine.html
Rahul Mehta wrote:This may be OT, but relevant. We are importing al;l switches, including software from US. What ensures that switches dont have backdoors? In case of war with US, cant CIA shut down the switches using these backdoors? BR prides for being the best forum on War issues, and I IMO this issue is relevant for BR. If this thread is not best place to discuss this issue, can one cite which thread is better to discuss this issue? ...
AWMTASri wrote:^^^ Rahul this is a major concern indeed. Only way to negate this possibility is by insisting that all switches be made in India under license agreement and with complete technology transfer to Indian partner. Like they are insisting it with Chinese manufacturers. Even China insists on the same.
. IMO too, all switchs and chips used should be made-in-IndiaDear All,JwalaMukhi wrote:...... Well, the whole [Nbjprie] cabal has ensured all the pillars of democracy are as pliable as possible. The situation is really ripe for few good men to step up and seize the momentum to set it right. Hopefully, there are some of them from NBJPRIE to standup and be counted. It could happen sooner, Baba Ramdev's party is poised for now to make large gains and deep inroads if they play it right. A truly good opportunity for new entrants who are away from the old guards.
On 9 January 2009, it was announced that NewsX had been purchased by Indi-Media Network, a partnership between the NaiDunia CEO Vinay Chhajlani and former Businessworld editor Jehangir Pochaa
Jaitley at his best.PAC cannot go into all issues: Jaitley
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/138081/pac ... itley.html
Nirmala Sitharaman Should be made permanent spokes person of BJP .Can Cong restore credibility lost in 2G scam?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/138080/can ... -scam.html
The expression is attributed to an incident in Julius Caesar's life. His wife Pompeia Sulla held a festival called Bona Dea in 62 BC -- a festival that paid tribute to `good goddess'. In this festival, held in Pompeia's house, only women were permitted. But Publius Clodius Pulcher, a naughty, young and ambitious patrician, sneaked in dressed as a woman with an intent to seduce the beautiful wife of Caesar. He was caught, well, pants down, and prosecuted. But during the trial, Caesar never acted or gave evidence against Clodius. The patrician was thus acquitted. But days later, Caesar divorced Pompeia, saying "my wife ought not even to be under suspicion." This gave birth to the expression "Caesar's wife must be above suspicion."
Forget Caesar's wife; should the Prime Minister, like Caesar, remain silent when people like A Raja and Suresh Kalmadi run away with aam aadmi's money?
Prime Minister's honesty and integrity have never been on the debating table or questioned. On these grounds he has been well above the watermarks of doubt; but his silence has not been so.
Here are some occasions when Manmohan Singh could have acted in time, but never did:
2G Spectrum scam
It took over a year for the Prime Minister to act; it took over a year for the CBI to wake up. Had it not been for the PIL in the Supreme Court, the scam would have dragged on and on. Why did Singh not act when the then Telecom minister A Raja refused to listen? Why did the PM not act when Raja ignored Cabinet colleagues and asked them to keep off the Spectrum turf?
Why did the government not bring out the facts when the issue was debated in the Rajya Sabha over a year ago? Why did the PM act only after the Supreme Court comments on the tardy progress and questioned the CBI on its monumental silence?
If the PM would have acted on time and brought Raja to the book, his stature would have been much higher.
The PM and the CBI meekly closed the stables only after Raja and all the horses had bolted.
Another point: If the PM had nothing to hide, why not agree for a JPC probe?
Niira Radia Tapes
How come the Prime Minister was not aware of the fact that private conversations were being secretly taped? Such acts are allowed only for national security. Even if they were taped, who leaked it to the media and why? The conversations were taped by a government agency and the tapes were in the possession of this agency. How come the tapes were leaked and what was the motive?
The PM was visibly upset while addressing the captains of the industry this month. But that shows that he was not under control of things. Even now, he is not able to pin-point who leaked the tapes to the media and why.
CWG scam
For four long months, all the dirt on Commonwealth Games was out in the open. The stink too was there for everyone to 'smell' and squirm. But for the best part, the PM adopted the three wise monkey strategy with a twist in the tale: see-no-scam, hear-no-scam, tell-no-scam. Why did the PM not step in early and stem the rot? He appointed an overseeing committee only after the mess had spun out of control.
Even now, Suresh Kalmadi is yet to be questioned by the CBI even as he plans to bid for the Olympics.
Appointment of the CVC
The Central Vigilance Commissioner is appointed by taking into confidence the leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha. Three persons were shortlisted for the CVC post but the government ignored the dissenting note of Opposition leader Sushma Swaraj and appointed P J Thomas as the CVC. This despite the fact that he is still an accused in the palm oil import scam in Kerala.
Sushma Swaraj had openly said that the Government was free to choose any one among the two other officers on the list of three, not Thomas. But the PM paid a deaf ear and went ahead.
The government knew all along that Thomas, as the CVC, will not be in a position to investigate the 2G spectrum allotment scandal in which his own ministry was involved. An official with such a shadow of doubt should not have been made the CVC.
Now, the matter is before the Supreme Court which has questioned the manner in which Thomas got the job. Why was the PM so keen on Thomas who was under a cloud of controversy? He could have picked up the next good officer on the list.
Well, like Caesar's wife, the PM should be above suspicion.
Source: India Syndicate
Then, all these bitches (Barkha, Radia, et. al) will have a much easier time playing their dirty games.Surya wrote:Sigh I am depressed - once again I wonder whether i should take to drinking
His government needs to cancel the 2G spectrum allocation with immidiate effect and then resign. Each day he is delaying this, he is only showing that he is a coward or that he is involved in the scam or that he is protecting those who are involved in the scam, but not serving in the interests of the country and people.Philip wrote:"I have nothing to hide"...Dr.Singh's "I am not a crook" moment!
.The 3G data services that could be impacted include high-speed internet, download of music and video clips, chat and internet telephony calls
Raghavendra wrote:^CBI toh congress ki dhukan hai aur Radia toh congressi hai
CBI kuch be grill nahi karegi, baas chai pikar wapas aajayenge
sanjeevpunj wrote:Mauli, the mother board can be developed further, include Mother Sonia as the god-mother.
Singh owes his current high office not to his popularity with the Indian people, but because of the value Indian and foreign big business place in him as a loyal enforcer of their interests
Singh’s callous indifference to the Indian people was recently exposed when he led his government in defying a Supreme Court order to distribute food grains rotting in scandalously ill-kept government warehouses to the poor for free or at low cost. Much of India’s population is malnourished, but Singh was determined that the food should be left to rot.
New Delhi: PR executive Niira Radia was questioned by the CBI at her farmhouse in South Delhi today in connection with the 2G scam. Radia is alleged to have used her political contacts - including former Telecom Minister A Raja - to get telecom licenses for her clients. CBI sources say that she could be charged with trying to influence a public servant.
Usually, the CBI summons people for interrogation to its headquarters. However, sources in the agency say that the criminal procedure code dictate that women should not be questioned at a police establishment. A woman sleuth was among those who met with Radia for her three hour q-and-a session today.
Nothing of any significance in India happens without corruption whether it is distribution of food to poor villagers, buying MLA's, starting front companies for investing corruption money squandered by netas, building highways, or anything else.ashokpachori wrote:Singh owes his current high office not to his popularity with the Indian people, but because of the value Indian and foreign big business place in him as a loyal enforcer of their interestsSingh’s callous indifference to the Indian people was recently exposed when he led his government in defying a Supreme Court order to distribute food grains rotting in scandalously ill-kept government warehouses to the poor for free or at low cost. Much of India’s population is malnourished, but Singh was determined that the food should be left to rot.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/nov20 ... -n26.shtml
Now when you make strong (complete with quantitative assessment - "biggest") statements like those, do you ever stop to think how would you back them up in case someone asks? or do you suffer from the typical politician disease like Diggy Raja?Rahul Mehta wrote: MMS is the biggest bribe-seeker and bribe-collecting PM India ever saw. And I doubt if any future PM can break his record.
All the proofs that point against Raja also point against MMS. Let me elaborate. When Telecom Dept Secretary issued notification (or pressnote) that applicant should give Rs 1600 cr demand draft in 45 minutes, everyone in PMO would have come to know this by next day morning. And license agreements are signed by Telecom Secretary or some such IAS but not by Minister. And any order signed by Secretary can be canceled by Chief Secretary. And Chief Secretary works as per orders of PM only. Now one may say that PM didnt know about "get Rs 1600 cr demand draft in 45 minutes" order for next 2 years till everyone in India came to know. But I chose to believe that MMS came to know about this ridiculous order very next day. So question is Why MMS didnt ask Chief Secretary to cancel the spectrum allocation order and refund the drafts? My brain with IQ of 107 says : MMS got about Rs 15000 cr from the total bribes of Rs 60000 cr. The letters from PMO to Raja prove nothing, because it is possible that MMS wrote letters to Raja, and then called him and instructed him to do otherwise. So that on-paper, MMS remains clean and murky deal does go thru. For all we know, we only have papers PM sent to Raja -- we do not have transcaript of oral communication between MMS and Raja. Ditto is my reasoning in CWG case and all big ticket cases of corruption. All evidences that point to Kalmadi also point to MMS. Most major expenditures of CWG were signed by Cabinet, not by Kalmadi alone. And PMO has gone thru those expenditure proposals. As per non-corrobrative evidence, there is none against Raja either. So do you propose that Raja took only Re 1 of bribe? Or, can you give any material evidence to prove that Raja took even Re 1 of bribe? The only evidence we have is Raja "inefficiently" gave away bandwidth. Well, in reality, Raja and MMS were both in this deal. So if inefficient allocation is proof of bribe, then it proves against both. If inefficient allocation is not sufficient proof as per you, then as per you, Raja too must non-corrupt. Is that so?Rahul Mehta: MMS is the biggest bribe-seeker and bribe-collecting PM India ever saw. And I doubt if any future PM can break his record.
Archan: Now when you make strong (complete with quantitative assessment - "biggest") statements like those, do you ever stop to think how would you back them up in case someone asks? or do you suffer from the typical politician disease like Diggy Raja? In case you don't have a satisfactory answer to the above, then could you please tell us why we should continue to tolerate you and your ^^ above^^ on this forum? thanks.
. Making allegations of corruption against Ministers is fair game on BR. I differ only to the extent that my allegations are not echoed by DD-journalists who as NaMo said are news-traders. Thats all.Finally CBI has questioned her at her Farmhouse as per report. We can safely infer that she is in Delhi, not appearing in public. She was in London after 24th Nov , the last when ED had questioned her. Media silence about her is amazing, but nothing surprising given the fact that many of the awarded journos are in her paylist.amit wrote:This report should put to rest persistent rumors that Radia was allowed to flee to London.
A team of 10 CBI officers and two Enforcement Directorate officials raided the south Delhi residence of Radia around 7am and questioned her for over 10 hours. The office of Vaishnavi Communications in central Delhi, which Radia heads, was also raided. “We asked her about the phone conversations as well,” an officer said.
