Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby Austin » 22 Aug 2015 21:16

Dawood purchased property close to Benazir son's house in 2013'


The Hindu has accessed Dawood's dossier, which India is going to hand over during the NSA-level talks.
In clinching evidence about presence of underworld gangster Dawood Ibrahim in Pakistan, India is going to tell Pakistan that as recent as 2013, Ibrahim purchased a property in Karachi, close to the residence of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, son of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. The Hindu has accessed Ibrahim's dossier, which India is going to hand over during the NSA-level talks.

Apart from this there are nine more properties of Ibrahim that has been identified by the Indian intelligence agencies. The residential property has been purchased as it is strategically located close to Ziauddin Hospital, where Ibrahim could be taken for "medical treatment" as per his need. India has incorporated at least six addresses of Ibrahim in Karachi.

Some of the addresses collected by India are Moin Place, near Abdullah Shah Ghazi, Dargah Road, Clifton, Karachi; 6/A Khyabar Tanzeen, Phase-V, Defence House area; ISI safe house, Margaba Road; P 6/2, Street number-22,House number 29, Islamabad.

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Postby Austin » 22 Aug 2015 21:22

Dawoods latest picture by Indian Intel

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Postby Austin » 22 Aug 2015 21:23

8 new addresses, passport details part of India's new dossier on Dawood

India's new dossier on the country's most wanted fugitive, Dawood Ibrahim, sheltered in Pakistan by the ISI, has major details about his hideouts and passport.

The passport details of Dawood's wife, son and daughters have also been included in the dossier, giving fresh evidence of his presence in Pakistan. Mail Today was first to report on August 18 that India had prepared a fresh dossier with new evidence on Dawood Ibrahim that was to be handed over to Pakistan during the NSA-level talks. Dawood's addresse's included an ISI safe house on the Islamabad-Muree road, about 20 kms outside the Capital city.

"Dawood Ibrahim is known to frequently change his locations and addresses in Pakistan since he has amassed immense property in Pakistan and moves under the security of Pakistani agencies," the dossier accessed by Mail Today states.

Details of Dawood's Pakistani passport

Passport Nos- G-866537 issued from Rawalpindi, C-267186 and KC-285901 issued from Karachi and G-886357 issued from Rawalpindi.

Dawood's Pakistani addresses

India had last given three addresses to Pakistan in 2012. These were:

~Moin Palace, 2nd Floor, Opposite Abdullah Shah Ghazi Durgah, Clifton in Karachi
~House no. 6/A, Khyaban Tanzeem, Phase V, Defence Housing, Karachi
~Margalla Road, P-6/2, Street No. 22, House No. 29, Islamabad

The new addresses mentioned in the dossier are as following:

~17 CP Bazar Society, Block 7-8 Amir Khan Road, Karachi
~30th Street, Phase V Extension of Defence House Area in Karachi
~Abdullah Shah Gazi Saab ki Mazar, Karachi
~8th Floor of Mehran Sqauare near Pardesi House 3, Talwar Area, Clifton, Karachi
~Palatial bungalow in the hilly area of Nooriabad, Karachi.

The dossier also mentions two properties recently purchased by Dawood.
~Shireen Jinnah Colony, near Ziauddun Hospital, Clifton, Karachi near Ziauddin Hospital where medical treatment could be provided to Dawood whenever required
~Main Margalla Road F-6/2 House No- 7, Islamabad.

The dossier also mentions the Pakistani passport details Dawood's brothers Anees and Mustaquim.

"Dawood Ibrahim has also been declared a 'Global Terrorist' by the US Treasury Department. He has also been included in the UN Security Sanctions List as an associate of Al Qaeda which obligates member countries to take action," the dossier says.

"In spite of the information made available to Pakistan about his whereabouts in Pakistan, they have failed to execute the Red Corner Notice as well as discharge its obligations under UNSC resolutions."

The dossier further adds that, "although there is no extradition treaty with Pakistan, nothing should prevent them from from deporting him to India since he is an Indian,"

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby SwamyG » 22 Aug 2015 21:25

Romba romba simple.... ISI-Dawood-Bollywood-MSM-Elite-Congress

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Postby Guddu » 23 Aug 2015 03:30

Why is he not being taken out ?...I am sure there are ways to arrange a vacuum eggsplozun

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Postby disha » 23 Aug 2015 04:23

Why take him out? What will it achieve? Just will expose our deep assets in Bakistan for a cockroach who is no more of any use to bakistan.

Dawood is a good tool to beat Bakistan with. Bakistan has shielded him and will return him with their tail between legs., till then keep telling each and every person that Bakistan is shielding terrorists. And we cannot talk of any other confidence building measure until we talk of terrorism first.

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Postby Yagnasri » 23 Aug 2015 04:35

i do not agree that he is a wash out. He still runs crime and other activities in India and a threat to us. Further the need to give justice to the victims of terror he created in India. So if possible we need to take him out.

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Postby Muppalla » 23 Aug 2015 04:51

Dawood will not be dispensed by Pakis. For Pakis, Mullah Omar types are all dispensable but not Dawood. Mullah Omar or OBL are just alliances to showcase Pakis are pan-world enablers of Islam so that these yahoos can be used in an attack or two on India. They want Afghan so that there is no massive Pastun revolts.

Dawood is the real cream of Pak. The baseline of Pak is still anything anti-India and having most wanted of India among themselves is an iconic moment to sell for the cadres of H&D. His children are married to several elites of Pakis that run the country. Killing him by any means is loss of H&D. It is not same as losing OBL or Mullah Omar.

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Postby Yagnasri » 23 Aug 2015 04:57

His girl married to J. Miandads son. Right?

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Postby RamaY » 23 Aug 2015 05:02

Chaiwalah info, TIFWIW...

Dawood will be sacrificed not because of his terror or drug or other links... He will be sacrificed by the human trafficking mafia of congress-system so they can divert public attention.

More scary part is it's for the same reason wife of a prominent MP has been sacrificed...

I went and searched on this topic after hearing it...

http://piktochart.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Human-trafficking1.jpg

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby JE Menon » 23 Aug 2015 10:27

What is the "human trafficking mafia of the congress-system"?

According to the chaiwalla, Congress is running, or masterminding, a vast human-trafficking ring?

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Postby schinnas » 23 Aug 2015 11:27

Since we seem to know the whereabouts of Dawood's whole family, why cannot his brothers, who are also mafia goons and cause trouble to india taken out? ISI cannot provide the same level of security to everyone in Dawoods family. I would like to see that the second rung leaders of Dawood company embrace 72 at a healthy frequency in Pakistan.

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Postby JE Menon » 23 Aug 2015 11:51

How can we be sure that the goal of Indian diplomacy is not to force Pakistan to kill Dawood themselves? Even for the Pakisatans, that is the best option. He is an albatross around their necks and, because of him, people who would otherwise not be on the forefront of information targeting have become so. Their gains are little from Dawood at present. They have other options. It appears that the main problem on their end is to end his life in a way that will not backfire in terms of public opinion. They are being concerned for no reason. There will be no public backlash. Nobody gives a crap about Dawood or his family, except some journalists in India who will find a way to blame Modi for that too. Eventually, Pakistan will have to make that choice. It's just not feeling the heat enough yet. But the temperature has been gradually going up.

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby member_26535 » 23 Aug 2015 12:42

Agree with JEM. D is already a liability and very soon the pressure to act will be unmanageable for Pukis. I speculate that they will get rid of him and his group one way or the other / make him disappear. From an Indian perspective too, I donno whether he is as valuable as Half Ass Sayd on a relative basis. Our direct action plan should instead focus on JuD

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Postby RamaY » 23 Aug 2015 18:17

JE Menon wrote:What is the "human trafficking mafia of the congress-system"?

According to the chaiwalla, Congress is running, or masterminding, a vast human-trafficking ring?


Chaiwalah talked about the extent of internal and international human-trafficking ring, it's key nodes, extent of congress-'system' involvement etc.

Initially I thought it would be in thousands. When I searched Google, the numbers are staggering. Nearly a million women & children are trafficked thru India (see the above pic for the routes) from and to different countries, the destinations being ME, EU and US.

~2.3 million plus people a year! Look at the link in above post.

In comparison, Look at the infra/process/hype involved around hardly 45K H1Bs. Imagine what kind of illegal network is required to manage to move million people illegally and silently.

To get an understanding, please see how the network of cattle smuggling works. They modified normal looking Volvo busses to smuggle cattle unsuspected with all kinds of pilgrimage disguise outside and the logistics nodes etc.

W.r.t Dawood, look at point 28 in the above pic. ForWhy/how /WhatPakistan is a destination? Or is it just a node in the distribution network?

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby schinnas » 23 Aug 2015 21:20

[quote="JE Menon"]How can we be sure that the goal of Indian diplomacy is not to force Pakistan to kill Dawood themselves? Even for the Pakisatans, that is the best option. He is an albatross around their necks and, because of him, people who would otherwise not be on the forefront of information targeting have become so. Their gains are little from Dawood at present. They have other options. It appears that the main problem on their end is to end his life in a way that will not backfire in terms of public opinion. They are being concerned for no reason. There will be no public backlash. Nobody gives a crap about Dawood or his family, except some journalists in India who will find a way to blame Modi for that too. Eventually, Pakistan will have to make that choice. It's just not feeling the heat enough yet. But the temperature has been gradually going up.[/quote

JEM,
That could very well be one of the legitimate goals of GoI's diplomatic efforts. While Dawood might be an albatross around their neck, he does have the largest and most capable mafia network in the Indian sub continent covering both India and Pakistan with tentacles in Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Thailand. His D-company is a very useful tactical force for ISI. D-company can move fake currency and drugs into India or collect recce on targets far more efficiently than what ISI clowns can do themselves. Through him, ISI controls Bollywood and several media houses and real estate operations. This would help ISI in psywar and in legal bribing of babus and netas (through jobs, opportunities and apartments for their kin). Even if ISI takes him out, they will do it in a way that maintains the integrity of D-company and only after they are sure that the successor to Dawood be an ISI minion. Our goals are two fold - for India, Dawood is just a symbol now. We want both the D-company organism and the symbol of Dawood to be destroyed.

To summarize, we would need to eliminate key leaders and regional satraps and benamis of D-company in effect dismantling its operations in India before or along with eliminating Dawood. ISI would want to keep D-company's operations intact while finding a smooth way to heart attack Dawood and ensuring that the new leader is their minion.

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Postby Aditya G » 24 Aug 2015 02:23

http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-fo ... im-2117739

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Singh hinted at the possibility of carrying out an operation in a third country.

"Many people go outside Pakistan. That opportunity is there but our agencies need direction". He also talked about a botched operation to target Dawood. However, Singh made it clear that he cannot say it is confirmed and he does not have any evidence.

"A group was being trained to target Dawood but he had people in Mumbai police on his 'pay roll' who were alerted. The Mumbai police came saying there is a warrant against them. But I cannot say it is confirmed. I have just heard...I don't have evidence," he said.

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Postby Cosmo_R » 24 Aug 2015 04:17

Does India really want to get Dawood? I'm beginning to wonder.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-new ... 72145.aspx

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby Thomas Kolarek » 24 Aug 2015 04:37

If you have deep assets in Pak. it's not hard to get him. Question is do we have deep assets ? Seems yes, as RAW is able to get telephone bills and addresses of Bhai. He seems to be of some use even to RAW, else why let him live so long ?

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Postby SwamyG » 24 Aug 2015 05:30

Doubil ya triple agent onlee. My long standing consbiracy deory.

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby ramana » 24 Aug 2015 20:52

Gagan more work for you....

Falijee wrote:Dawood Ibrahim has nine residences in Pakistan, Delhi says

New Delhi: Dawood Ibrahim has nine residences in Pakistan, including one bought near the house of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, son of former prime minister Benazir Bhutto, two years ago, and has three Pakistani passports which he frequently uses to travel.


According to a dossier prepared by India to be handed over to Pakistan,[*] there are nine places where Dawood Ibrahim, who is known to frequently change his locations, stays in Pakistan. The new residence Dawood bought is located at Shireen Jinah Colony near Ziauddin Hospital, Cliffton, Karachi.

“This accommodation was purchased in September, 2013 and is located near the hospital where medical treatment could be provided to Dawood whenever required. This place is close to the residence of Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, son of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto,” the dossier reads.


[*] did not happen


Apart from this house, the other places where he regularly frequents are: Moin Palace, near Abdullah Shah Gazi Dargah, Cliffton, Karachi, 6A Khyabar Tanzeem, Phase V, Defence Housing area, Karachi, ISI safe house located on Bhoubhan Hill, around 20km from Islamabad on Islamabad-Muree Road, P6/2, street no. 22, House no. 29, Maragalla Road, Islamabad, 17C P Bazar Society, Block 7-8, Amir Khan Road, Karachi, 30th street in Phase 6 extension of DHA in Karachi, 8th floor of Mohran Square near Pardesi House 3, Tawar area, Cliffton, Karachi and a palatial bungalow in the hilly area of Nooriabad, Karachi.[*]


[*] Good leg-work by RAA agents :D

According to the dossier, Dawood has three Pakistani passports — first one issued in Rawalpindi (No. G-866537), second in Karachi (No. C-267185) and a third one which was also issued in Karachi (No. KC-285901).


The dossier says Dawood was declared a global terrorist by the US State Department on October 16, 2003 and he was included in the UN list as an associate of Al Qaida on November 3, 2003 under the UNSC resolution no. 1267 “Pakistan has failed to issue a red corner notice and take action as per UN notice against Dawood,” the dossier says.


In light of above, no wonder that the Pakis did not want to face the music in New Delhi :mrgreen:


Can these be mapped on google maps?

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby Singha » 24 Aug 2015 20:59

he has outlived his utility. might get disposed off soon.

the ISI will probably let chota shakeel take over and run the show. he is anyway the real power behind the throne for some time.

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Postby Gagan » 24 Aug 2015 21:22

Two peviously known locations are mapped
It is possible to narrow these down to a particular street, but not THE exact house, from the available info

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Postby Gagan » 24 Aug 2015 21:25

There are three houses near the Abdulla Shah Ghazi dargah, including the house close to Bilawal house

One of the houses is very close to the chinese and russian embassies

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby SSridhar » 26 Aug 2015 11:36

How India plans to weaken Dawood Ibrahim and his syndicate - Raj Shekhar, TNN
National security advisor Ajit Doval has a strategy to weaken Dawood Ibrahim and his syndicate. The plan is to identify D-Company's offshore assets and get them frozen, sources say.

IB and RAW teams have begun identifying assets D-Company owns globally. Most of these are in Dubai and Africa, investigations show. This will need extensive use of the global intelligence network, as most assets are benami. Some are in Dawood's daughter and son-in-law's names.

Doval's Dawood dossier lists firms like Dubai's Oasis Oil and Lube LCC, Al-Noor Diamonds and Oasis Power LCC, allegedly owned by Dawood. Other firms include Dolphin Constructions, East West Airlines (now defunct), King Video, Dubai, Moin Garments, Dubai and others.

The dossier names one Feroze as a key syndicate member handling the Dubai operations. "Feroze handles Oasis oil and Lube LCC and is often addressed as Feroze Oasis. He's South Indian, speaks Tamil, Arab, English and Hindi. Feroze handles Al Noor diamonds too," it says.

Most of the syndicate's operations are in India, it says and highlights Dawood's role in the 2008 Mumbai blasts. The dossier details the syndicate's smuggling links in south Asia, Africa and Middle East shared with al-Qaida.

"Dawood has close links with al-Qaida as a result of which the US declared him a 'global terrorist' in 2003 and pursued the matter with the UN to freeze his assets. Dawood controls the hawala system. His syndicate has consistently aimed to destabilize India through riots, terrorism and civil disobedience," it reads.

The dossier quotes a US treasury department report citing D-Company's involvement in shipping narcotics to the UK and Western Europe. "The US has designated Dawood as a terrorist... and maintains a factsheet on him," it says. The US treasury department has details on his movements through Afghanistan in the late '90s under Taliban protection.

The dossier lists one Javed Chutani, alias Doctor, as Dawood's man handling operations in Dubai. "He's a bookie with interests in real estate and his gambling book is in the name of Kamran. Chutani is a bridge between one Tariq Dubai and Dawood," the dossier claims.

The file says Dawood's cash comes from drug trade; fake currency racket, realty and money laundering. Agencies feel once they have control over Dawood's offshore assets, "it'll break the security cordon around him. Once that goes, getting him will be a cakewalk," an officer said.

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Postby schinnas » 26 Aug 2015 11:47

JE Menon wrote:How can we be sure that the goal of Indian diplomacy is not to force Pakistan to kill Dawood themselves? Even for the Pakisatans, that is the best option. He is an albatross around their necks and, because of him, people who would otherwise not be on the forefront of information targeting have become so. Their gains are little from Dawood at present. They have other options. It appears that the main problem on their end is to end his life in a way that will not backfire in terms of public opinion. They are being concerned for no reason. There will be no public backlash. Nobody gives a crap about Dawood or his family, except some journalists in India who will find a way to blame Modi for that too. Eventually, Pakistan will have to make that choice. It's just not feeling the heat enough yet. But the temperature has been gradually going up.


JEM,
That could very well be one of the legitimate goals of GoI's diplomatic efforts. While Dawood might be an albatross around their neck, he does have the largest and most capable mafia network in the Indian sub continent covering both India and Pakistan with tentacles in Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bangladesh and Thailand. His D-company is a very useful tactical force for ISI. D-company can move fake currency and drugs into India or collect recce on targets far more efficiently than what ISI clowns can do themselves. Through him, ISI controls Bollywood and several media houses and real estate operations. This would help ISI in psywar and in legal bribing of babus and netas (through jobs, opportunities and apartments for their kin). Even if ISI takes him out, they will do it in a way that maintains the integrity of D-company and only after they are sure that the successor to Dawood be an ISI minion. Our goals are two fold - for India, Dawood is just a symbol now. We want both the D-company organism and the symbol of Dawood to be destroyed.

To summarize, we would need to eliminate key leaders and regional satraps and benamis of D-company in effect dismantling its operations in India before or along with eliminating Dawood. ISI would want to keep D-company's operations intact while finding a smooth way to heart attack Dawood and ensuring that the new leader is their minion.[/quote]

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Postby Singha » 26 Aug 2015 12:36

^ I totally agree JEM and have posted on this in another thread. he has no upside for his hosts and just a drain on precious resources to keep him safe and fed. his onlee utility at present could be as money launderer for the TSP elites given his bases in dubai . but others will do it too with less publicity.

in india we need to catch and put his film industry and realty co-workers into long jail terms.

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Postby Vishal_Bhatia » 26 Aug 2015 12:53

Singha wrote:^ I totally agree JEM and have posted on this in another thread. he has no upside for his hosts and just a drain on precious resources to keep him safe and fed. his onlee utility at present could be as money launderer for the TSP elites given his bases in dubai . but others will do it too with less publicity.

in india we need to catch and put his film industry and realty co-workers into long jail terms.


Sir, his only use is India wants him and Pakistan is not giving him. That's how Pakistan thinks: it is "winning."

As for his "network," it runs on his name, and it will fold sooner or later.

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Postby member_20453 » 26 Aug 2015 13:21

RAW has very deep assets in Pak, everything from key peeps, key nut jobs, to strategic assets are very carefully monitored or can be found. RAW had very specific intel on OBL while the West was turning over boulders in caves looking for him. It was RAW's key intel that urged the US to look closer to Islamabad and later confirmed suspicions when RAW told them he is in a cantonment zone.

From the word GO, Dawood can be taken in a matter of minutes. But, there is no use to taking him now. By using diplomatic channels and presenting clear evidence, we are seen as a far better diplomatic power. Great power is seen with doing the thing that is hard. But when he does steps over, a little un-hahal biryani could be the end of him. No one in the UN or elsewhere for that matter takes Bakistan's word seriously. The best way for us to hit at Bak is to retaliate on LOC violations. A disproportionate response is what is needed when they violate the ceasefire, it becomes our right to respond. For example: the response in kind for the officer who was martyred by sniper fire needs to be destruction, clear destruction of the 5-10 bunkers around that area, the RPO-M Shlem comes to mind. A simple effective weapon to take down bunkers.

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Postby chaanakya » 26 Aug 2015 14:34

More important thing is to first eliminate the D Network that operates in India. that will make him ineffectual and useless to Pakis.

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Postby sum » 26 Aug 2015 14:42

^^ We should see many such cogs in the wheel slwoing getting bumped off/arrested in the days to come.

I think this is the strategy Doval is following: of squeezing around the foundation to bring the building down

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby vinod » 26 Aug 2015 15:13

Is there something like this in India?
"A culprit can be found guilty without his presence in court, then the court can rule that the person is an absconder from justice. Any officer of govt. can arrest him and in the process of it, if the culprit gets injured or dies, the officer is immune from all investigations or prosecution. The officer is also immune from prosecutions, even if any individual(s) assisting the culprit also gets injured or dies."

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Postby Venu » 07 Sep 2015 15:43

As per NewsX, UAE is about to seize the properties of Dawood. Is it in retaliation to Pakistan's backtracking from helping UAE? or is it because of Modiplomacy? I see this as somewhere in between in the two.

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Postby Sachin » 07 Sep 2015 16:05

vinod wrote:Is there something like this in India?
"A culprit can be found guilty without his presence in court, then the court can rule that the person is an absconder from justice.

From what you posted this looks like a definition of the term "out-law". I.e a person who is evading the rule of law, and hence the same rule of law would not be applicable to him. India has legal provisions to attach the property of proclaimed absconders, but never can be they be killed during the process to arrest them. If they do get killed in the process, the police officer does not get any blanket immunity; he would still have to answer in detail why such lethal force was required and how the death happened. Most likely the officer would also get suspended from service till the whole thing gets sorted out.

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby Raja Ram » 07 Sep 2015 16:49

If the message coming from the UAE is indeed true, then it is clear that the broad counters of the Doval- Modi Doctrine on Pakistan and the terror machine are well in execution mode now.

My own take is that at a very broad level it has three components which are classic strategic and tactical moves

1. Reduce Operating Space: One thing that the recent past has shown that the GoI has shown clear signs of proactive diplomacy to secure the support of the governments that are currently the operating areas of the Pakistani terror operatives and ISI operating bases against India. Towards this, the Modi-Doval duo have been working assidiously at many levels. Right from setting up a network of information gathering and sharing protocols with regard to specific targets and assets, being alive to the opportuinities that the fast changing Middle Eastern geo-political scene and exploiting that (the role of India in securing the Iran nuke deal, has meant also creating a shared agenda that Iranians will work with India; the opening that was created by the Yemen crisis quickly capitalized in UAE, the extensive links being established across several Central Asian states; the increased working arrangements with ASEAN countries) all are evidence that the GoI is finally working to a plan. It is not fully down but it is clear that there is a tremendous coordination between Home, MEA and PMO on this.

2. Shutting of the Money Supply: The second leg, and by far the most crucial, seems to be a clear and concerted effort to go after money sources and financial hubs of targetted people. The passing of a stringent Black Money bill also has a component of neutralising money supply to the terror network. Given the past experience in actual cooperation (largely negative) on counter terror moves with the West, the Modi-Doval duo seem to have calibrated this aspect of cooperation with the western powers in terms of sharing of financial movements tracking and tracking of assets. The operational aspects of tracking and sharing information on specific high value targets seem to be going at a slower pace. What is evident from of the publlic statements made by the GoI, is that they are now tracking and sharing financial operations far more closely and are getting the inputs and cooperation from the West. I think this had a lot to do with Shri Doval staying back post Modi's US visit and having extensive interactions. If the UAE action is indeed true, it is a clear proof that they are going after the oxygen supply

3. Building and extending covert reach: This aspect, for obvious reasons, will not be in public domain, and will have to be estimated in terms of extending some of the actions that are visible to announcements and assertions and connecting a lot of dots. What is clear however, is that under Modi-Doval doctrine, there seems to be three concentric rings of networks that are being equipped to expand and extend the covert capabilities. One is the re-building the internal intelligence network and reducing the operating space for the terrorists inside conflict zones. Second network is the building up of technical capability including TechInt and HumInt networks across the operational zones of Pakistani ISI and their terror workers. The third is a Geo-Political network of world powers that will act in concert with India on terror directed against India, that is being established by Modi personally. It is clear from his first foreign policy initiative of inviting SAARC heads that he has integrated cooperation in anti-terror operations of India as an integral part of all relationship. In exchange he is providing them the access to Indian market, technology, skills and investments, in a deft combination. For the first time, National Security is fully integrated into bilateral and multilateral frameworks including economic ones - case in point making Terrorism as a point of discussion in G20; in BRICS, at Ufa, with Japan, Germany, US. Earlier this level of integration was not visible at least.

This is of course a reading that I have made based on observation of Modi's foreign visits and the clear articulation of goals for each and every relationship. The imprint of strategic National Security thought in the conduct of foreign policy is very evident and the efforts made by a more galvanized and action oriented MEA, Home, Finance and Intelligence agencies are begining to make an impact. These are welcome changes that arrests the policy of drift and stop start, siloed and hesitant approach that marked the era of Manmohan Singh.

The signs that efforts are begining to yield results are yet to emerge, but the signs that these efforts are being executed well by a competent team in Modi-Doval-Sushma Swaraj-VK Singh-Rajnath Singh is clearly visible for those who wish to see.

Just the usual ramble. Take it for what it is worth.

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Postby fanne » 07 Sep 2015 17:05

The attack in Thailand on Brahma Temple is part of this. Thailand, we know is one of the places where D-gang (and eyeesseye) is very active. India/Thai must be squeezing them hard, and that was their response. I believe we have a fairly friendly govt in Nepal, BD and SL since NM came to power. The only nation we lost to TSP is Maldives. So move are certainly being made. Now we have UAE.

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Postby kmkraoind » 07 Sep 2015 17:24

fanne wrote:The only nation we lost to TSP is Maldives. So move are certainly being made. Now we have UAE.


I think we have lost space in Maldives to China (Pak is just a proxy to China in this regard)/ Since China does not want its fingers to be exposed in Maldives pie, that role has been relegated to Pakistan. But once India gets close to Gulf nations, I think Maldives may again come to India camp.

Even ChiPa getting a foothold in Maldives (a space between Gulf and Diego Garcia) is detrimental to US interests, so they will move backroom pieces so that Maldives does not go to ChiPa, but to India).

I think present Maldives president visit to India is to rebuild those damaged bridges with India.

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Re: Dawood Ibrahim & Underworld Watch Thread

Postby vasu raya » 13 Sep 2015 17:50

Covert strikes in Pakistan: Can India carry out one?

The key question is can India carry out a covert operation in Pakistan? To begin with no country which has nuclear capabilities has been hit by a targeted operation. This would mean India would need to rely on a hit job. On the defence front, India has specialists who are very capable of carrying out hit jobs or targeted operations too. Security experts say that Pakistan has always used its nuclear tag to ensure that there is no major operation carried out within the country unless it allows it to happen. Pakistan continues to use this to their advantage and escalate tensions with India knowing well a full blown military conflict is out of the question. Recently the army chief had said we can only fight short wars along the border. Using the terrorist for a terrorist style of functioning too is a bit difficult. India is a rising power and is positioning itself in that manner. It cannot afford to create terrorists and send them out like how Pakistan does.


crabs in a tub are we?

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Postby RoyG » 13 Sep 2015 18:08

We don't need to create them. We only need to incentivize them.

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Postby vasu raya » 13 Sep 2015 18:15

for starters, did India declare a bounty on Saeed's head? on Lakhvi as well and who were those mercenaries that almost took over Maldives

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_Maldives_coup_d'%C3%A9tat


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