India Nuclear News and Discussion 4 July 2011

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Vips wrote:
Nuclear force: Why India needs to increase its nuclear stockpile.


In the case of a nuclear strike, India’s leadership should focus on a comprehensive counter-offensive strategy aimed at removing an adversary’s ability to cause further harm to Indian interests. For this strategy to be successful India needs to drastically increase its stockpile of nuclear weapons so that it dwarfs the combined nuclear stockpile of both China and Pakistan.

WMDs are for deterrence; not meant for regular combat use. They primarily target population centers. Use means self-destruction of each other—mutually assured destruction (MAD). Minimum viable (and guaranteed) deterrence is credible enough to prevent use by the opposition. Anything extra is a waste of resources.

Instead of spending higher amounts for 1000s of warheads, spend a fraction of that cost in deception tactics whereby for let’s say 100 warheads you have 2000+ dummy sites; hence, smaller stockpiles more survivable from first strike.
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Both the Soviet Union (Russia) and the US developed nuclear weapons to win wars. They are not just swords for showcase and bombastic threats, but operational weapons to be used as part of the strategic calculus.

India's nuclear stockpile with delivery systems needs to be in the 1000s and the armed forces must train with them on a daily basis. That is the ONLY they will be considered by any adversary as a deterrent.
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How can one “win” wars when facing MAD :wink:
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Nukes are very much war-fighting weapons, not by their physical use but by the way they affect thinking, strategy, constrain options etc, even for conventional actions. They are also peace-fighting weapons by the manner in which they help us project power even during peace time - trade disputes, negotiations, land disputes ityadi.

Having the confidence of a 1000 nukes with a certain % being of the MT variety, with a triad of delivery systems & a range of 10K Kms, makes you have a very different conversation with China or Unkil. No threats are needed. People recognize power when they see it & constrain their own behavior.

Our nuclear position should be maximalist. We should be able to go upto any level in the escalatory ladder against anyone. It should always be at the back of both our minds & the minds of those we deal with (both friends & enemies)
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ramana wrote: Nukes are still insurance and not for coercion.

The threat to India has not changed. It still is from the medium range weapons.
IMHO, we should have nukes/ICBMs/Megatonnes as well as ABMs, MRBMs etc for different purposes. Horses for courses:

1) The ABMs, MRBMs etc are for when the yellow stuff hits the fan. We should actively be wargaming/practicing for D-day, if it ever comes. This is for Pakis
2) The ICBMs, Megatonnes are for negotiations with the likes of Unkil. For P5 to come begging to us to join the UNSC (rather than the other way around). Constraining Unkil when it comes to coercive diplomacy. Drawing lines.
3) Megatonnes, Numbers & Triad are for China. So that some of their cuckoo generals or XJP don't start imagining a post-nuke-world where they're wounded but surviving & we aren't. They should know that such an outcome will never come to pass. Samson option, a.k.a MAD.
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Sonugn wrote:Some rumors about a potential cyber break at Kudankulam
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 661290.cms
The second 1,000 MW nuclear power unit at Kudankulam, owned by the Nuclear Power Corporation of India LtdNSE -0.64 % (NPCIL) stopped power generation on Saturday, said Power System Operation Corporation Ltd (POSOCO).
The expected date of the unit's revival is not known.

It is air gapped but still..
Newer ways to go around that !..airgap is old defence
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Our nuclear position should be maximalist.
Soviet Union went bust trying to be maximalist. Nuclear WMDs are high costs to create, maintain and operationalize. It was one strategy the US Regan administration put to good use to fuel an “arms race” in order to cause an economic collapse of the SU.
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kit wrote:
Newer ways to go around that !..airgap is old defence
Would you care to elaborate? Please.
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srai wrote: Soviet Union went bust trying to be maximalist.
Wrong. This is a deliberately perpetuated myth to dissuade others from mimicking the U.S, vis-a-vis the stockpiling of nukes. The Soviet Union was already bankrupt, thanks to their state controlled economy. Neither the Chinese nor us are that stupid.

We can maintain a fairly substantial arsenal at a very small fraction of our GDP. Enough to deter and negotiate from a position of strength.
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ramana wrote:China had a regional nuke strategy by way of short and medium ballistic missiles. It had a handful of ICBMs as insurance. Majority of its threat was from Soviet Union.

Under XJP inner and outer circle plans it needs more ICBMs as it's threat spectrum changes.

Nukes are still insurance and not for coercion.

The threat to India has not changed. It still is from the medium range weapons.

The type of delivery systems haven't changed but the number of weapons will. This is like saying the PLA increase in Ladakh didn't matter since a soldier is still a soldier.

When the chinis feel they need to match Unkil weapon for weapon, there is good likelihood we will face several thousand instead of several hundred. Just like the IA at the LAC, our nuclear forces will need to ramp up to balance out the increase.

The USSR had 45K nuclear weapons at the time of its collapse. A couple of thousand will not bankrupt Cheen who has a much larger economy than the USSR ever did. It won't bankrupt India either unless we are going for 45000.

Trying to outbuild Cheen who might be trying to outbuild the US is another issue.
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Wrong …
:rotfl:
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When the chinis feel they need to match Unkil weapon for weapon, there is good likelihood we will face several thousand instead of several hundred. Just like the IA at the LAC, our nuclear forces will need to ramp up to balance out the increase.
And the winner is the one who sits on the sidelines!

China-US duke it out with nukes and lay each other waste, India and Taiwan the winner

China-India duke it out with nukes, US and Pakistan the winner

Pakistan-India duke it out with nukes, China the winner

and so on …
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Lisa wrote:
kit wrote:
Newer ways to go around that !..airgap is old defence
Would you care to elaborate? Please.
https://uk.pcmag.com/security/116827/bl ... -your-data

https://www.f5.com/labs/articles/cisoto ... -computers

Simply airgapping computer systems and hoping for the best is total idiocy,there is more to hacking it

Researchers have devised numerous ways to extract data from computer systems by developing covert channels. These channels fall into four general groups:

Electromagnetic (the earliest attack vector)
Acoustic (beyond speakers, modulated fan and disk drive noise can be used)
Thermal (very low speeds possible)
Optical (a hot area, where speeds up to 4k bps have been demonstrated)
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The best way to get around an air gap is to have access to a USB or other device which is carried and plugged into the secure facility by an individual who may or may not be aware that the device is infected by malware. That is how Stuxnet is supposed to have infected the Natanz Uranium enrichment facility in Iran.
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Whether steam or emals the Chinese have figured out quickly that challenging the USN with a ski-jump carrier is not going to happen. There is only so much you can do to overcome the payload restrictions imposed on any platform besides a true STOVL aircraft like the Harrier or the JSF which they do not have access to. So they decided to go big or go home. They have both the money and the shipbuilding capacity to do it so it makes sense.
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nachiket wrote:Whether steam or emals the Chinese have figured out quickly that challenging the USN with a ski-jump carrier is not going to happen. There is only so much you can do to overcome the payload restrictions imposed on any platform besides a true STOVL aircraft like the Harrier or the JSF which they do not have access to. So they decided to go big or go home. They have both the money and the shipbuilding capacity to do it so it makes sense.
Plus their Su-33 a.k.a J-15 has damaged the runaway of the Ski jump in their Type 001 carriers requiring refit. Heavy fighters with ski jump is a big no.
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Kitji,

Thank you.
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This may be an unpopular point of view:

I speculate that the number of devices to be in stockpile at any time by any country may have a bearing on the non-fizzle probability.
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nachiket wrote:Whether steam or emals the Chinese have figured out quickly that challenging the USN with a ski-jump carrier is not going to happen. There is only so much you can do to overcome the payload restrictions imposed on any platform besides a true STOVL aircraft like the Harrier or the JSF which they do not have access to. So they decided to go big or go home. They have both the money and the shipbuilding capacity to do it so it makes sense.
This is why the IN wanted a 65K ton CATOBAR. STOBAR exacts a penalty on range and load. There is no getting around it. A carrier serves for 50 years. It would be flying handicapped far into the future.

The J-15 catapulting off the Type 003 will be a completely different beast. It will go from being a cripple on a STOBAR to the carrier aircraft with the largest loadout as well as internal fuel capacity anywhere. It is after all a flanker.

And that is not even taking fixed-wing AEW, tanker and COD into consideration.
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kit wrote:
Sonugn wrote:Some rumors about a potential cyber break at Kudankulam
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 661290.cms

It is air gapped but still..
Newer ways to go around that !..airgap is old defence
guys,

no need to make a big thing out of a routine procedure.

Some maintenance is online and can be done with the reactor live and generating power.

Still other maintenance has to be done offline, so the reactor has been shut down pending completion.

I could go into chapter and verse but will refrain from doing so as this is an open forum.

The regulatory authority governs this and the operator has little choice but to comply.

and so very predictably, that stoopide $#%^&(* economic times "article" has been deleted.
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BHEL bags Rs 1,405 crore order from NPCIL.

State-owned has bagged an order worth Rs 1,405 crore from the Nuclear for supply of 12 nuclear steam generators. The steam generators will be manufactured at the Tiruchirapalli plant of BHEL.

Valued at Rs 1,405 crore, the order has been won under NPCIL's Fleet Mode procurement programme. It mandates supply of 12 steam generators for India's highest-rated indigenously-developed 700 MWe Pressurised Heavy Water Reactors (PHWRs) to be set up at four different locations in the country, according to a release issued on Friday.

This is the second major supply order secured by BHEL through competitive bidding for the Fleet Mode implementation programme of 10x700 MWe nuclear projects.

The first equipment order secured by BHEL under this programme for the supply of 32 Reactor Header Assemblies is under execution.

BHEL holds the distinction of being the sole Indian company to be associated with all the three stages of the indigenous nuclear power programme of the country and has emerged as the leading partner for NPCIL for over four decades now, as per the release.

Nearly 75 per cent of PHWR-based nuclear power plants in India are equipped with BHEL-supplied Turbine and Generator sets, and the balance being imported sets.

BHEL has also emerged as the L-1 bidder in another Rs 10,800 crore-tender floated by NPCIL for 6x700 MWe Turbine Island Packages.

The company has dedicated infrastructure and skilled manpower to address the special design, manufacturing and testing requirements complying with international codes and standards for various components/equipment of nuclear power plants. It is also geared up to cater to the growing requirements in this area in the future, the release said.
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I never give url of "Farce Magazine" but this is an exception:

Informative article by - Prasoon Chor-gupta

Rain of Deterrence: Construction in full swing for the naval base to house Indian Navy’s SSBNs and SSNs
https://forceindia.net/cover-story/rain-of-deterrence/
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nachiket wrote:Whether steam or emals the Chinese have figured out quickly that challenging the USN with a ski-jump carrier is not going to happen.
Somewhat off-topic for a nuclear thread, but I'm reminded of how Germany lost the naval war in both WWI and WW2 by investing huge resources into big capital ships, trying to build a surface fleet to challenge the British. The result was huge dreadnoughts and battlecruisers that were all sunk or neutralized early in the war, when the Germans could have built and staffed dozens of submarines for every Bismark or Turpitz that they fielded.

China is being very stupid in pouring so much into aircraft carriers that they cannot defend and thus cannot use against any halfway competent adversary. China can't even risk using its carriers against India or Taiwan, and of course, deploying them against the USN would be suicide. As a result, all those resources that they've poured into carriers, all those billions of dollars, all those tens of thousands of naval personnel, and all the expensive logistics, are all a complete waste. Those same resources could be directed towards submarines, anti-ship missiles, smart mines, underwater drones, stealthy missile boats, and all kinds of things that would actually be useful against a peer adversary.

I suppose we should be thankful the Chinese are such idiots, but unfortunately we're doing the same thing with our own naval buildup.
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Y. Kanan wrote:
nachiket wrote:
I suppose we should be thankful the Chinese are such idiots, but unfortunately we're doing the same thing with our own naval buildup.
how ?
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and the Chinese are not building just carriers., in just an year they put out the equivalent of the whole british navy
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kit wrote:
Y. Kanan wrote:
how ?
... how are we replicating China's naval mistakes? By misdirecting scant resources into carriers when we could field a dozen modern submarines for every Gorshkov \ Vikramaditya that we put into service. And unlike an aircraft carrier, submarines or destroyers will actually be used in the event of war. If war breaks out, the Vikramaditya will be hiding in port somewhere, or at best sailing around as a decoy somewhere far from the combat area. We simply don't have the ability to defend an aircraft carrier against any peer adversary, so they're not going to risk putting it in harm's way. It will be the same story with our upcoming indigenous carrier also.

Another problem is carriers are incredibly expensive to operate even in peacetime, further draining the rest of the navy of precious funds that could better be spent elsewhere. This hurts our naval readiness and erodes the IN's capability further.

I know it's not a popular opinion here, because carriers look cool and equate to national pride, but I'd rather have a navy with 10-20 more submarines and destroyers and 0 carriers, as opposed to a smaller navy with 2 carriers that will never see combat because they're too expensive to defend, too costly to operate, and far too precious to lose.
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Y. Kanan,

This is an interesting debate to have, but you guys are doing it in the wrong thread. What does this discussion (Carriers vs. Submarines) have to do with Indian Nuclear News? It should be in the Indian Navy thread, or the INS Vikrant thread.
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Godrej & Boyce gets Rs 468 cr order for PHWR project.

Godrej & Boyce has bagged a Rs 468 crore order from Nuclear Power Corporation of India to supply steam generators for 700 MW pressurized heavy water reactors (PHWR) project.

The company's process equipment division will be supplying the generators for the indigenous project and is the biggest order for the division yet, Godrej & Boyce said in a statement.

Steam generators are critical equipment in a nuclear power plant for generating clean (non-fossil) and reliable source of power for baseload requirements, the statement said.

The generators will be manufactured at the company's facility in Dahej, Gujarat.

“For decades now, Godrej Process Equipment has been a leading global fabricator of high end critical static equipment for the process industry. To contribute to India's prestigious nuclear power programme is a matter of great pride for us,” its business head Hussain Shariyarr said.

The Indian PHWRs have been designed at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) and one reactor is operational at Kakrapar in Gujarat.

More reactors are under construction at Kakrapar; Rawatbhata in Rajasthan and Gorakhpur village in Haryana.
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China building a Thorium based molten salts coolant reactor. No water to be used for cooling.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ch ... d=msedgntp
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India had at least a decade + start on all other countries with its Thorium Reactor program and it looks like China will start producing them in an assembly line before we finally get ours. :roll:

Same thing happened with the aircraft carrier program. Chinese started building their carrier at least 5 years after us, have already produced two. It is now constructing the third which is mega sized, while ours is still 'under production' and even our Naval chief cannot say with confidence when it will finally enter service!!!!
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^^^^^
We are like this only. I mentioned this with production of Tejas. We produced technology demonstrators onlee .For years we were sitting with old technology and we were late. Then the bars were high, and we started all over again. BJP has given some momentum but not enough.We need private sector heavy weights capable of taking big projects. Public sector is not competent enough. I am not saying anything new. It has been discussed many a times before.
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Vips wrote:India had at least a decade + start on all other countries with its Thorium Reactor program and it looks like China will start producing them in an assembly line before we finally get ours. :roll:

Same thing happened with the aircraft carrier program. Chinese started building their carrier at least 5 years after us, have already produced two. It is now constructing the third which is mega sized, while ours is still 'under production' and even our Naval chief cannot say with confidence when it will finally enter service!!!!
This is what can happen when you depend "a lot" on other countries for equipment., the carrier delay was mainly due to delay of supplies from Russia especially for the Air control equipment and ancillaries., i would have to say, though Russia has stood by us in a lot of situations they are not "efficient" in getting deliveries in time.

Keep plugging on India., invest more and more in its own production capacities and capabilities., we will get there.

https://science.thewire.in/the-sciences ... se-orders/
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Some of our scientists have also said they if they had to start all over again, they would probably prefer to go for the molten salt technology, instead of the liquid sodium coolant tech that we have opted for. We are still stuck with the same, with no end in sight. Probably its time to review the program and take some tough decisions if required.
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mody wrote:Some of our scientists have also said they if they had to start all over again, they would probably prefer to go for the molten salt technology, instead of the liquid sodium coolant tech that we have opted for. We are still stuck with the same, with no end in sight. Probably its time to review the program and take some tough decisions if required.
Vips wrote:India had at least a decade + start on all other countries with its Thorium Reactor program and it looks like China will start producing them in an assembly line before we finally get ours. :roll:
https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles ... -operation

The China Institute of Atomic Energy (CIEA) said the CEFR had started its second operating cycle on 19 January and had been reconnected to the grid on 15 February. It said the high-power operation of CEFR is "an important way to master fast reactor technology and cultivate talents".

The CEFR was constructed near Beijing with Russian assistance at CIEA, which undertakes fundamental research on nuclear science and technology. The reactor has a thermal capacity of 65 MW and can produce 20 MW in electrical power. The CEFR was built by Russia's OKBM Afrikantov in collaboration with OKB Gidropress, NIKIET and the Kurchatov Institute.

China's fast reactor development has implemented a three-step strategy, namely going from an experimental fast reactor, to a demonstration fast reactor, to a commercial fast reactor.

Based on the CEFR, a 600 MWe design - the CFR-600 - was developed by the CIEA. Construction of a demonstration unit in Xiapu County, in China's Fujian province began in December 2017. This will have a power output of 1500 MWt and 600 MWe. The reactor will use mixed-oxide (MOX) fuel with 100 GWd/t burnup, and will feature two coolant loops producing steam at 480°C. Later fuel will be metal with burnup of 100-120 GWd/t. The reactor will have active and passive shutdown systems and passive decay heat removal. Construction of a second CFR-600 unit at the Xiapu site began in December 2020.

A commercial-scale unit - the CFR1000 - will have a capacity of 1000-1200 MWe. Subject to a decision to proceed, construction could start in December 2028, with operation from about 2034. That design will use metal fuel and 120-150 GWd/t burnup.
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Don't think China will resume any yield-producing underground tests (big booms).. taking lid off decades of testing moratoria by everyone except North Korea... but this caught my eye.
A New Tunnel Is Spotted At A Chinese Nuclear Test Site
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Newbie post. Some observations I came across and have highlighted in the usual places

BARC in it's August newsletter has confirmed forging of specimens of 350 mm to 750 mm thick reactor pressure vessel forgings for validation for the IPWR-900 program

http://www.barc.gov.in/barc_nl/2021/2021070808.pdf (Nice pic inside)

Research paper correlation (http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jnucmat.2015.09.010) indicates that it is probably a refined or improved version of 20MnMoNi55 which they are now calling “APURVA” (Advanced Purified Reactor Vessel Alloy)

20MnMoNi55 was originally used in German Siemens RPV's wheras Russians use a Cr-Mo-V steel called 15LH-15Kh2MFA and Americans use a Mn-Mo-Ni steel called SA533B-1 (See https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/en ... ure-vessel). The French dropped their steel version and use German steel since Areva merged with Siemens' nuclear division.

Based on comparing the BARC image in the newsletter and this video from L&TSSHF ( https://youtu.be/8PDquAOAmEw?t=79 ) so this is very likely to be from L&TSSHF Hazira (L&T NPCIL JV) that has a 9000 Ton forge press. They planned another 17000 Ton press but status is unknown. If they managed in the 9000 Ton press that's impressive too.

Also see https://corpwebstorage.blob.core.window ... ochure.pdf

Other potential future forging locations are Bharat Forge which has a 16000 Ton forge press (Not nuclear certified). HEC Ranchi and MIDHANI Hyderabad both have 6000 Ton forge press.
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Don't know how many of the old timers are still here remembering debate about giga booms and fizzles..and all the EXCEL skills to design best thermo-nuclear devices but a good biopic of S. Ulam (of Teller-Ulam fame) opens today. Check it out! The name is "Adventures of a Mathematician"
https://youtu.be/SZ2YupFolFA
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A summary of recent orders for the six new reactors at GHAVP-1&2, Kaiga-5&6 and GHAVP-3&4 that are starting construction to track prgress. GHAVP-1&2 construction is progressing and main nuclear installation work might start from Jan 2022

Combined Bulk Orders for GHAVP-1&2, Kaiga-5&6 and GHAVP-3&4 (KAPP-3&4, RAPP-7&8, KKNPP 3,4,5,6 not included)
  • Turbine Island Packages - 6 orders - 10731 Crore INR - BHEL - August 2021
  • Incoloy-800 Tubes for Steam Generators - 1100 Crores INR - Nuclear Fuel Complex - August 2019
  • Reactor Header Assemblies Part1 - 3 orders - 156 Crore INR - BHEL - December 2020
  • Reactor Header Assemblies Part2 - 3 orders - 156 Crore INR - L&T - December 2020
  • Coolant Channel Assembly Zircaloy Components - 220 Crore INR - Nuclear Fuel Complex - December 2020
  • Steam Generators Forgings of material 20 MnMoNi55 - 442 Crore INR - L&T SPECIAL STEEL AND HEAVY FORGINGS -Mar 2018
GHAVP-1&2
  • Nuclear Island - Tenders yet to be opened - L&T, BHEL, Tata Projects Bidding
  • Steam generators Part1 - 736 Crore INR - L&T - March 2018
  • Steam generators Part2 - 736 Crore INR - BHEL - March 2018
  • Main Plant Electrical Systems & Switchyard - 670 Crore INR - L&T
  • End Shield Assemblies Part1 - 129 Crore INR - Godrej & Boyce Mar 2018
  • End Shield Assemblies Part2 - 125 Crore INR - L&T Mar 2018
  • End Fittings - 166 Crore INR - L&T Dec 2019
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  • Sealing Plug Assemblies, Seal Discs, Installation Rigs - 17 Crore INR - Avasarala Technologies Limited
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  • Shielding Plug Assemblies - 11 Crore INR - MTAR Technologies (P) Ltd
  • Canned Motor Pumps - 23 Crore INR - HYDRODYNE TEIKOKU INDIA
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Kaiga 5&6
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GHAVP-3&4
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Re: India Nuclear News and Discussion 4 July 2011

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Coal crisis:

Nuclear plants are operating at near full capacity and exceeding their planned targets which is rare as purchasers prioritise cheap coal based power over nuclear if they can avoid although it is against the Central guidelines.

Central guidance says Solar+Wind+Hydro+Nuclear are Must Run category which means any power produced should be considered primary and purchased in full at any PPA price. Cheaper Coal and other thermal is considered dynamic load and should cover the rest only.

The discoms don't bother to follow any of the above rules due to their financial situation. They don't bother to even take solar and wind although it will go waste if not extracted.

KAPS-1, MAPS-1, NAPS-1 are down for their 20-year enmass refuelling. KAPS-3 is operating at low load although it is still in tetsing and not commissioned and is not reflected in this report as it is directly selling to exchange.

Data for September: (October data is much wilder - We are only 10 days into october but they exceeded their 17 days target)
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Re: India Nuclear News and Discussion 4 July 2011

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Tenders have been released to complete the final phase of BARC Vizag campus.

Next likely efforts could include start of construction work on High Flux Research Reactor and Innovative High temperature Reactor ar Vizag.

NFC Kota construction seems to be nearly complete and will be primary supplier to all the new PHWRs comping up.

GHAVP-1&2 foundation work seems to be nearing completion. Main buildings likely to start construction around January.

KAPP-4 few months away from completion. Covid delayed this one significantly.

RAPP-7&8 are each a year away from completion.

But most of these delays are due to HR issues and not execution issues. KAPP-4, RAPP-7&8 commissioning and GHAVP-1 &2, KKNPP-3 to 6 construction are putting incredible stress on people resources in NPCIL. They don't have enough trained and experienced people to execute so many projects at the same time. They are being stretched too far. Training and experience validation of new people takes time.
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