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Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 20:53
by anmol
Singha wrote:Sources in the BJP say Mr Sinha may have been referring to an American diplomat and his partner, who faced visa difficulties last month.



www.gaypolitics.com/2009/04/06/obama-appoints-gay-man-interim-ambassador-to-india/

Gay Politics — Obama appoints gay man interim ambassador to India
by Denis Dison, gaypolitics.com
April 6th 2009

Peter Burleigh, a seasoned foreign service officer with deep expertise in South Asian affairs, will serve as America’s top diplomat in India until a permanent ambassador is named, according to reports in the Indian press.

In a 2008 profile of Burleigh in the South Florida Blade, the former acting ambassador to the United Nations said he had sometimes had to hide his sexual orientation during his more than 30-year career as diplomat:

“Up until the 1980s, it was dangerous [to be out] because you couldn’t do foreign work without security clearance,” Burleigh said. “By 1990, it was no longer a problem if you were out.”

Burleigh said he was open about his sexuality within the State Department once the policy changed. He kept his private life to himself, however, when he was assigned to foreign countries where homophobic attitudes prevailed in the culture.

The Gay & Lesbian Leadership Institute’s Presidential Appointments Project is championing several openly gay candidates for ambassadorial nominations as President Obama pulls together his diplomatic team. For information on the Presidential Appointments Project, go here.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Burleigh
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Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:09
by Mahesh_R
anmol wrote:www.gaypolitics.com/2009/04/06/obama-appoints-gay-man-interim-ambassador-to-india/


Also during the detention of Indian High Commissioner daughter from her school ...the US issued a statement "Diplomatic immunity is ONLY for the high commissioner and NOT to the family"
We SHOULD now arrested the "COMPANION" saying he does not enjoy the immunity...well if we could figure out some many loop holes to put them in the hole then just imagine how many more goi might be aware of....its only they could act tough on them...this is just plain black and white case...with no grey shades :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:10
by pankajs
Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade put through cavity search like criminals by US
"As a diplomat, she is entitled to certain courtesies. Let alone the courtesies, she was subjected to strip and cavity searches like a ordinary criminal," a source said.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:15
by Altair
pankajs wrote:Indian diplomat Devyani Khobragade put through cavity search like criminals by US
"As a diplomat, she is entitled to certain courtesies. Let alone the courtesies, she was subjected to strip and cavity searches like a ordinary criminal," a source said.

How is cavity search NOT a state sponsored sexual harassment? No one obviously would consent to it.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:15
by habal
Can't imagine after opening up Kejriwall for all fun and games, Maino ji will slowly take all the toys away after Jan 2. The street outside should be like a normal Indian street, I don't know why it's kept so sanitised. After all NYT and WP daily reports that India is such a dirty country etc. So the street should be like an avg Indian street and cows too should be free to move about. Also NYT and WP photographers do not have to venture too far (now too dangerous also) to post their drain inspector photos.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:23
by vishvak
The extreme right wing within USA is still under radar and must be investigated for any EJ games.

In case of Italian marines murdering Indian fishermen, there were a lot of efforts to get the trigger happy shooters from Italy out including diplomatic deals and 'promise from minister' etc.

In this case, the usual chattering mobs from left are totally silent.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:24
by anmol
Altair wrote:How is cavity search NOT a state sponsored sexual harassment? No one obviously would consent to it.


This is how they do cavity search: [nsfw-ish]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e34_1355877149[/nsfw-ish]

In that video, police officer inserted her fingers into "cavities" of two ladies. Without changing gloves.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:26
by pankajs
Withdrawal of facilities is fine but to restore the friendship between the two democracies an arrest before the media followed by handcuffs followed by a strip search and cavity search followed by a day in Tihar jail of an American diplomat is a must.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:34
by krishnan
block , google , facebook, twitter :mrgreen:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:37
by pankajs
no no saar .. block walmart .. raid McDonalds etc on food safety etc. Investigate pepsi/coke on water usage and contamination issues. Implement local buy for all GOI contract ..

Ensure 100% compliance of local laws on labour, food quality, water quality, etc.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:39
by Altair
anmol wrote:
Altair wrote:How is cavity search NOT a state sponsored sexual harassment? No one obviously would consent to it.


This is how they do cavity search: [nsfw-ish]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e34_1355877149[/nsfw-ish]

In that video, police officer inserted her fingers into "cavities" of two ladies. Without changing gloves.


Try doing that in India. Governments will fall. I feel proud India is not down that road yet. Its possible in US because they are good in that, probably the only thing they are good at. Fingering asses and vaginas.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:45
by paramu
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Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:46
by member_22733
So just like I suspected EJ gang is in on this ( from Twitter).

NY times, Time articles on domestic abuse in India and the plight of 'slaves' in India will soon follow. This will be followed by how Indians need to be civilized etc.

CT:
Since most EJ orgs are CIA front ends I wonder if they are involved in this.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:49
by Yagnasri
No need for all this. Immediate need of US in the region is to get Karzai sign the agreement on immunity to Khan forces. They are asking for our help badly. Just deny it. Or better give a dozen jaguar a.c. to afghan airforce with India pilots to mistakenly bomb U.S. dogs when ever they mmIstakenly kill afghan families. End of story.

I don't think there is maino angle here. Her need not reply to a useless court which has no real power to do anything.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:50
by Kati
Let the stew simmer slowly.......Good that the general election is approaching, and massa couldn't have picked a worse time to show its b@11s....


India downgrades privileges of US diplomats, wants details of local staff
The Telegraph, Kolkata

New Delhi, Dec 17 (PTI): India on Tuesday retaliated strongly to the arrest of its deputy consul general in New York by withdrawing privileges enjoyed by US diplomats and their families and stopping import clearances for the embassy.

Asking all consulate personnel and their families to turn in their ID cards immediately, the government has also sought key information such as salaries paid to all Indian staff employed at the consulates and by consulate officers and families including as domestic helps.

“The government has asked for all US Consulate personnel's ID cards and that of their families immediately. These will now be downgraded on par with what the US provides to our consulates in US,” sources said.

The government has asked the US to provide it with visa information and other details of all teachers at US schools and pay and bank accounts of Indians in these schools.

Apart from these measures, Government has stopped all import clearances for the US embassy including for liquor.

Also, the traffic barricades near the US embassy on Nyaya Marg here, barring the picket, will be lifted.

The steps followed the arrest last week of India’s Deputy Consul General in New York, Devyani Khobragade, on visa fraud charges relating to a domestic help she had taken from India. Khobragade was arrested handcuffed on a public road, but later released on bail.

Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh has already summoned US Ambassador Nancy Powell and issued a demarche in this regard.

The displeasure was also evident among leaders and officials of Indian government who cancelled their meetings with visiting US Congressional delegation.



There are two completely separate issues:
(1) Giving a dressing down to our vaideshik daptar babus about wheeling and dealing in our countries. But that is a total internal matters of bharat.
(2) Let us not allow massa get away with this. More than equal proportional measure needs to be applied to make massa realize that such behavior can't be tolerated.

If the current measures don't work then tightening the screw should come in Afghanistan by giving some parties vital info about massa's jaiwan movements.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 21:51
by Yagnasri
By the way Tejpal may be couched by US police in certain things :D

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:00
by Altair
Possible steps India should take to show US its place.

1. Sign a billion dollar gas deal with Iran and pay in Rupees onlee.
2. Participate in Joint Military Drills in Persian Gulf with Iran and Russia.
3. Joint India-Iran space program.(Iran recently brought back a space monkey in a bio-capsule safely back)
4. Invite E.Snowden to high profile events on strategic affairs which are frequented by whos who of India.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:01
by KJo
Let's go stone KFC in bengaluru like our how our paki brothers do! Who is with me, let's meet at majestic at 9am :twisted: :rotfl:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:05
by krithivas
Can GoI assert rape charges against the Federal Marshall's who assaulted the Indian diplomat? It may not go anywhere nevertheless it highlights a sickening practice that United States is now claiming as "normal process".

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:06
by habal
KJoishy wrote:Let's go stone KFC in bengaluru like our how our paki brothers do! Who is with me, let's meet at majestic at 9am :twisted: :rotfl:


umm .. how about Nobody !
:mrgreen:

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:11
by kish
So this guy Preet Bharara has political ambitions. He humiliated India to prove his political correctness to the american public

Khobragade victim of local ambition


The case against Khobragade was she took a babysitter/housekeeper with her to the US and told the US immigration department that the help would be paid the minimum wage in that country---$4,500 a month. However, the actual payment was only $530 a month. According to the office of US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, two sets of contracts were signed between Khobragade and her housekeeper, one offering her the minimum wage and another citing the real wage she would be paid. According to Bharara, the help was instructed not to say anything about the second contract during her visa interview.


Indian officials say the extremely public nature of Khobragade’s arrest has a lot to do with Bharara’s political ambitions. Calling him the Arvind Kejriwal of New York, a former Indian government official who served in the US, said, “After taking down one state senator, two members of the assembly, a member of the council and many others in two alleged bribery plots; after going after Rajat Gupta and Raj Rajaratnam and putting him away for more than 10 years; and after pursuing the case against IMF (International Monetary Fund) chief Dominique Strauss Kahn (which was dismissed), Bharara was looking for another scalp. Now, he has one—Devyani Khobragade.”

Bharara has denied he intends to run for any office. But The New York Times suggests his style has an uncanny similarity to that of former New York governor Rudy Giuliani, who held the same post in the 80s and used it to hunt down corrupt politicians and as a springboard to public office. In fact, while hearing a case argued by Bharara’s office, one of the judges mocked publicly at the purple prose in a press release issued by Bharara, saying this seemed to be for “tabloid consumption”.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:26
by johneeG
anmol wrote:
Altair wrote:How is cavity search NOT a state sponsored sexual harassment? No one obviously would consent to it.


This is how they do cavity search: [nsfw-ish]http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e34_1355877149[/nsfw-ish]
Altair wrote:
In that video, police officer inserted her fingers into "cavities" of two ladies. Without changing gloves.


Try doing that in India. Governments will fall. I feel proud India is not down that road yet. Its possible in US because they are good in that, probably the only thing they are good at. Fingering asses and vaginas.


krithivas wrote:Can GoI assert rape charges against the Federal Marshall's who assaulted the Indian diplomat? It may not go anywhere nevertheless it highlights a sickening practice that United States is now claiming as "normal process".


True. This is an assault on human dignity. In schindler's list movie, they show the Nazis making the women and men run around naked while the guards watch. How is the practice of strip search or cavity search different? Different rules for different people?

And these searches are administered casually to everyone and anyone without the connection to the case in hand? As altair saar said, this does seem like a state sanctioned sexual harassment.

I think it would be a good idea to start some kind of online campaign against this sort of thing.
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I think the idea is to rile the dhesh. They first humiliated the dhesh by arresting the diplomat on such a flimsy grounds(which seems to be a norm among most diplomats of all countries). But, there was no reaction from the dhesh. So, they went ahead and did the cavity search. And the dhesh finally got riled up(atleast, the babus seem to be riled up). I am still unable to understand why now and whats the final motivation? I don't think some lowly guy in hierarchy would be allowed to disrupt international relations. It seems to me that the lady was targeted because she is well-connected... one more clue that perhaps the idea is to finger the dhesh.

CT:
Maybe it gives the sarkaar an issue from which it can divert people's attention and ultimately when the amirkhan apologizes, it can be the victory of the sarkaar.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:32
by a_bharat
Time for some graffiti on US embassy walls: replace "United States of America" with "United States of Ass****s".

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:35
by member_22733

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:36
by anmol
a_bharat wrote:Time for some graffiti on US embassy walls: replace "United States of America" with "United States of Ass****s".


Mega/Megaupload's Kim Dotcom did this in Germany(Projected "United Stasi of America" on Embassy building) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-dFDUwAvGM

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:44
by vivek.rao
kish wrote:So this guy Preet Bharara has political ambitions. He humiliated India to prove his political correctness to the american public

Khobragade victim of local ambition


The case against Khobragade was she took a babysitter/housekeeper with her to the US and told the US immigration department that the help would be paid the minimum wage in that country---$4,500 a month. However, the actual payment was only $530 a month. According to the office of US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, two sets of contracts were signed between Khobragade and her housekeeper, one offering her the minimum wage and another citing the real wage she would be paid. According to Bharara, the help was instructed not to say anything about the second contract during her visa interview.


Indian officials say the extremely public nature of Khobragade’s arrest has a lot to do with Bharara’s political ambitions. Calling him the Arvind Kejriwal of New York, a former Indian government official who served in the US, said, “After taking down one state senator, two members of the assembly, a member of the council and many others in two alleged bribery plots; after going after Rajat Gupta and Raj Rajaratnam and putting him away for more than 10 years; and after pursuing the case against IMF (International Monetary Fund) chief Dominique Strauss Kahn (which was dismissed), Bharara was looking for another scalp. Now, he has one—Devyani Khobragade.”

Bharara has denied he intends to run for any office. But The New York Times suggests his style has an uncanny similarity to that of former New York governor Rudy Giuliani, who held the same post in the 80s and used it to hunt down corrupt politicians and as a springboard to public office. In fact, while hearing a case argued by Bharara’s office, one of the judges mocked publicly at the purple prose in a press release issued by Bharara, saying this seemed to be for “tabloid consumption”.


Not surprise!

What do gutless,spineless people of Indian origin do to increase their profile to win a political office?

Go after high-profile Indian stock brokers hard and get them jailed but let off all white guys easy. Not disputing about Raja Gupta or that Srilankan guy but they let off so many wall street folks of non-Indian origin with fines because this guy does not want to hurt them.

Go hard after some Indian consular office person and show off how tough guy you are. Again, not rationalizing what she has done but showing his cunningness. She could have been asked to leave the country through back channels. But the moron has to show his machoness on his fellow oily yindoo indian who can be crushed to make himself look like a crime fighter Hero.

Don't touch any high-profile whites/blacks.

Now run for office and make yourself a great crime fighter.

In fact, while hearing a case argued by Bharara’s office, one of the judges mocked publicly at the purple prose in a press release issued by Bharara, saying this seemed to be for “tabloid consumption”.


If not for the fact that this woman is SC, all the Libtards of Indian would have jumped to make this Upper caste yindoo evil woman an example of yindoo culture and support US at all costs.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:49
by member_22733
Malcolm X called such people House Ni**ers. http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt ... mxa17.html

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 22:56
by member_23692
People on this forum who are going "wacko bird" over this Devyani incident are revealing their membership in the modern day India elite circle which consists of the corrupt politician and the corrupt babus.

Go easy on labeling people; you can state your opinion without resorting to name calling and using offensive language. Next such act will get a warning. - rohitvats.

The babus in India demand and get special treatment, not because they are serving a strong and powerful government of a strong and powerful country, but because they like to hold themselves above normal, everyday people of India. So, they feel entitled to special treatment within India by virtue of them being "mightier" than their fellow citizens of a weak country.

These Indian babus now expect the same special treatment outside India as well. That is the real rub felt by Indian babus and the Indian government. If it were a matter of Indian pride and equality of Indians, then the Indian government and its embassies would routinely be standing up for ordinary Indian citizens who routinely are mistreated in all foreign countries including the US, but mainly in the Gulf Arab and other Muslim countries. We all know how well the Indian government and its embassies treats ordinary Indians. So, it is not about equality and Indian pride. I for one, as an ordinary citizen of India do not want to associate myself and my pride with that of how an Indian babu is treated. I will not get overly excited about alleged mistreatment of an Indian babu. The Indian babu had it coming - the Indian aam aadmi could not get him/her, we should be grateful, Massa got em.

The American diplomats and babus do not get any special treatment at home. They are the same as everyone else on American soil. They drive their own cars, live in homes which either they own or pay rent on out of their own pocket. They do not get any servants and they do not have the "other" income, generally speaking. They do get special treatment elsewhere, such as places like India. It is not by virtue of them being babus, but because they represent a strong country which engenders awe and fear in others. Plain and simple. There is a huge difference in the rationale of an American diplomat getting special treatment abroad and an Indian babu expecting special treatment abroad.

I rest my case. Today, I take this opportunity to shed a tear of all the Indians living overseas and Indian tourists who have been mistreated abroad by all countries and about whom the Indian government and babus have never cared a damn or raised a finger to help. I shed no tear for the Indian babu. I dont associate Indian pride with that of an Indian babu's but that of all ordinary Indians.

To be honest, I am rather enjoying this Indian babu's plight. Perhaps, that is my guilty pleasure.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:06
by rohitvats
Well, as per a panel discussion on NDTV comprising of Mr. Sibal and Lalit Mansingh, the practice of taking domestic staff to US is known to Americans. The Americans and Indians both knew the issue about minimum wages in US and had devised a means to counter that - the domestic help does not travel on a common/personal passport but on an official passport.

Therefore, by extension, the maid/domestic help is not an immigrant to US and hence, the minimum wage law does not apply. And this was a mutual understanding between US and India. Further, the insurance, travel to/from India and other charges are paid officially and together account for much higher value than the minimum wages being thrown about.

In short, this act of belittling the Indian diplomat was done on purpose - the Americans knew of the arrangement but still went ahead with the whole drama. This is premeditated with the ulterior intentions.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:11
by Yayavar
rsangram: that is feedback you have to send to babus through the media somehow - that there is less sympathy due to their high-handedness. Tie it to why there is support for Kejri in dilli etc.
At the same time Indian govt has to react since it is a diplomat - whatever be the personal foibles.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:11
by a_bharat
@rsangram:
What's your point? Where did you get the idea that people are going "wacko birds" because Devyani is from babu ranks? That is the most stupid inference one can draw. People are angry because they see it as an insult to the country.

One shouldn't expect much from MUTUs.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:13
by Yagnasri
MEA and babus there have no time for any commoner. They don't give a thought when we are mistreated in gulf or in other places. Now they are learning things in a hard way.

But the babu involved sent there by us and is a Indian women who should not treated by them in this manner.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:19
by Bade
^^^ This has deeper reasons to send India a message. Everything is not out in the open. It is not a case of babus using their clout either. Removing all those safety barricades has deeper significance, India has never done any such thing before.

All CT theories should limit to those that involve US interests or their pov to make sense. Even the Bharara dude is just being the water-boy in this case.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:22
by putnanja
India should also revoke visas of the teachers in American school within the US embassy area. If they want, let them send their kids to local schools! There are more than one way to skin the cat. Just keep at it till the US realizes its folly

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:22
by rsingh
wasu wrote:http://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/khobragade-arrest-india-launches-massive-diplomatic-backlash-113121700284_1.html

Indian govt hits back through 7 measures to express its displeasure

1. The immunity US embassy and consular staff enjoy will now be limited.

2. The government has asked for details of salaries paid to all Indian staff employed at the US consulates, including by consulate officers and families, such as domestic help.

3. All airport passes for US diplomats - both from Embassy and Consulates – have been cancelled, which means Americans employed by their diplomatic missions will not be able to walk into the immigration areas to receive family and other visitors arriving in Indian cities.

4. Visa and other details of all teachers at US schools and salary and bank accounts of those of Indians in these schools have been sought by the Indian government – to check if any American teachers are violating India’s visa policy.

5. The Identity Cards of consulate personnel and their families have been recalled.

6. All import clearances for the US including for the import of liquor have been stopped.

7. Traffic barriers around the US embassy in Delhi – put up as a courtesy measure for US embassy staff but a serious inconvenience for Indians – have been removed.


Yaaaa Alllahhhh those bad bad Indians bloking da liduor imports. Now it is up to UK diplomats to provide Americans with liquor. My problem is that I can almost see myself watching Natgeo/sky/ITN/ BBC documentory about how brave british diplomate saved US diplomate during Liquor blockade by bad bad India.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:29
by rsingh
putnanja wrote:India should also revoke visas of the teachers in American school within the US embassy area. If they want, let them send their kids to local schools! There are more than one way to skin the cat. Just keep at it till the US realizes its folly

Cant do that. What they are looking for is do the drama teacher do extra earning like being guide for the Americans or taking extra English classes for locals etc

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:32
by paramu
India removes barriers to...

Comment section

smacc wrote:
It seems,by way of India’s history of mistreatment and abuse of it’s Women,that this indignation over this women’s arrest is hypocritical to the extreme.This is a first for Indian men,standing up for a lowly women?
Dec 17, 2013 8:00pm IST


DeepakNanda wrote:
As an Indian-American (who happens to work at another consular mission in the U.S.) I am extremely upset at what Ms. Devyani has done. This level of hypocrisy is unbelievable for an ‘ambassador’ who supposedly supports women rights.
It is well know in the Indian community that we hire ‘servants’ and pay them next to nothing wages while forcing them to endure hard working conditions. This exploitation of household-workers is a pandemic problem in the Indian community. Rich and entitled land-owners and business owners may treat their servants like slaves in India, but in this country, America, things are a little different. Here we work for ourselves and honor our obligations

The fact that she refused to honor the original contract made with the nanny, shows her true character.

And yes, in America, everyone who goes to jail gets “strip-searched” to check for weapons and other contraband, it’s part of the criminal procedure. Nobody gets special treatment. Even if they arrested the mayor, or governor, or any other important government official they would still go through the same procedure. While she may be innocent until proven guilty, by putting herself in this situation, she has shown a severe lack of judgement.

Also, I would not be be surprised if her “bureaucrat” father in India is involved in some shady stuff as well.

Tell me, are these the kinds of people you want representing our nation? As an Indian-American I am ashamed of the negative publicity she has brought on our nation. By violating the law, Ms. Devyani has brought unwarranted attention upon her self, her family, and by extension the Indian-community. We should hold our ambassadors to higher standards, not support a woman who has no respect for her workers. What an embarrassment…Shame on you Ms. Devyani!

The truth will come out, and all of the people defending Ms. Devyani are inadvertently supporting a perverse form of slavery. Shame on you for not standing up for worker’s rights!

twitter: @deeunlimited

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:34
by Bade
They are looking for small technicalities which are normally overlooked, but now will be considered violations. Retaliation to these moves from the US side will reveal more on the real reasons for slapping the diplomat's hand at a higher level, perhaps.

If the house-hold helps are on diplomatic passport, how can local wages be applicable at all. This was not revealed in the media before even in India. If that is the case then there is no violation in principle. It is like saying the diplomat's themselves are being underpaid on US soil by the GoI. :-) Does not make sense.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:36
by Victor
rsingh wrote:Now it is up to UK diplomats to provide Americans with liquor.

That would amount to black marketing under IPC. Americans will have to make do with tharra.

Re: India-US Strategic News and Discussion

Posted: 17 Dec 2013 23:37
by Gus
rohitvats wrote: Further, the insurance, travel to/from India and other charges are paid officially and together account for much higher value than the minimum wages being thrown about.


insurance runs a max of 400 or 500 a month. travel is 2000 giver or take.

minimum wage is certainly more than all these things included.