Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Aug 05, 2011

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Aug 2011 09:50

ramana wrote: Shiv, Can you put that in a Venn diagram?

ramana - I haven't understood exactly what you want in a Venn diagram. Did you mean my post about Pakhanis? I could do that.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 25 Aug 2011 10:48

ramana wrote:So the Pakis need Chinese paint for their power plants too?

Earlier, the Pakis were painting onlee over the Chinese maal. Now, the Chinese are also supplying the paint by getting it from the Americans and passing it off as Chinese product ! With the Pakistani situation being so dire, I wonder if the Chinese technicians at Chashma also do the actual painting job.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 25 Aug 2011 14:00

That 1 Anna of Edward VII costs 1000 + rupees in that condition
Quarter Anna of 1906 in that condition commands 400 rupees

Not even an anna. Gandhiji gave away many crore rupees to bious especially in high denomination notes with portrait of KG VI

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 25 Aug 2011 15:42

shiv wrote:If this bunch were not murderous, they would be funny. Are they really trying to live like their Prophet as they claim? Really? Is this how the man lived? Wow.

To your fine list of 'likes' - add the bizzare adulation and worshipping of the various genocidal 'herrows' of islamic past, near and far. As well as the homoerotic romantasisation of their person and the celebration of their very genocide, via debasing as subhuman their victims. (Salman Taseer was consumed by the heroic past of his Islamic rapist ancestors, as are the whiskey swilling swine who bought chini repainted tincans and called them baboor and ghoori, etc)

The problem with the above for the secular gazhi is that the real glorious gazhi can out love, out homoeroticise and out celebrate this past. And then rub the secular gazhi's face in the dirt by saying '..Deen ki baat akl se nahi, nakal se chalti hai..'

Till this Deen celebrates genocide and its genocidal criminals, the game will always squeeze the Pakjabi, favouring the true talib - both love killing those who disagree with them, but the talib's Deen is purer and his hand is steadier.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 25 Aug 2011 16:12

^^^ It becomes quaintly clear why subcontinental muslims (esp in N India) at partition time had so soiled their shalwars.

They imagined the Hindus might do to them what their genocidal herrows had been doing all along. Vaat lag gayi at the very thought. So they ran to a moth eaten place and all that. The rest is history of course.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 25 Aug 2011 16:29

>>They imagined the Hindus might do to them what their genocidal herrows had been doing all along.

Exactly right. Projection onlee, you see. And what's worse, that was considered normal (witness what has happened in the excised appendages and still continues), therefore taken for granted.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Aug 2011 19:30

JE Menon wrote:>>They imagined the Hindus might do to them what their genocidal herrows had been doing all along.

Exactly right. Projection onlee, you see. And what's worse, that was considered normal (witness what has happened in the excised appendages and still continues), therefore taken for granted.

The unfortunate part is they also see the act of not treating them like dogs as weakness. There was this recent something I read (on BRF) about Arab psyche where the middle grade officer would tremble and behave extremely obsequious in front of his senior but immediately after that would actually kick his junior. Another article I read was the Paki feudal who absolutely had to have guns and use them in disputes or he would be seen as weak. Pakis need to be treated like shit and they should be able to do nothing about it. That is the only language they understand.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 25 Aug 2011 20:04

^^^ Even baboon tribes - normally very aggressive - can change their culture.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387823/

Societies get stuck in stable equilibriums of behavior norms. "Grovel/kick" is one such.

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BTW, Freakonomics said that the crime rate in India state-by-state is directly correlated to the gender ratio. The more the state is skewed to males the more the crime.
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Civilization and preservation of civilization requires a balance between taming of aggression and aggression. Lose that balance, and go Pakistan's way.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 25 Aug 2011 20:48

A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Even baboon tribes - normally very aggressive - can change their culture.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387823/

Societies get stuck in stable equilibriums of behavior norms. "Grovel/kick" is one such.

--
BTW, Freakonomics said that the crime rate in India state-by-state is directly correlated to the gender ratio. The more the state is skewed to males the more the crime.
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Civilization and preservation of civilization requires a balance between taming of aggression and aggression. Lose that balance, and go Pakistan's way.

Very interesting Arun

Yet another explanation could be that males in troops with such a high proportion of females become less aggressive because they don't need to fight as much for female attention and are perhaps rewarded for good behavior.

Reminds me of a couple lines from the song by Lobo linked on YouTube at bottom

But you picked another guy to entertain
you that night
And I was left to entertain myself
so I got into a fight.

Lobo: "Standing at the end of the line"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHEAFDXpjU

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Aug 2011 21:13

shiv wrote:
JE Menon wrote:>>They imagined the Hindus might do to them what their genocidal herrows had been doing all along.

Exactly right. Projection onlee, you see. And what's worse, that was considered normal (witness what has happened in the excised appendages and still continues), therefore taken for granted.
The unfortunate part is they also see the act of not treating them like dogs as weakness. There was this recent something I read (on BRF) about Arab psyche where the middle grade officer would tremble and behave extremely obsequious in front of his senior but immediately after that would actually kick his junior. Another article I read was the Paki feudal who absolutely had to have guns and use them in disputes or he would be seen as weak. Pakis need to be treated like shit and they should be able to do nothing about it. That is the only language they understand.

Pakis have been inculcated with an understanding that brutality is good, the more the gore, the superior the conqueror. It is all a question of who is the stronger horse. With such a programming, the "neo-Dharmic" route of winning hearts with love and showing the other cheek, are doomed for failure.

Secondly a black and white enmity too would only feed the stories of victimhood of the Muslims at the hand of outsiders, making the call to arms elsewhere in the Ummah for Jihad shriller.

What the Islamic heart desires most is neither friendship nor enmity, but slavery! The Kufr have to treat them like dirt, kick them like dirt, put them on a leash, and basically beat the shit out of them to convert. This they will accept gladly.

Modern War is only about winning territory and submission to a secular order. Such wars will not break the back of Islamism, and mean no loss to the Islamic heart! The Islamic would not accept that as the final bell. But submission to another God, that is understandable, and acceptable. Isn't it Allah-o-Akbar! Great is one who conquers! If a God loses, there is nothing Great about him! Any other God has to match the (interpretation of) Islamic God in terror, before the other is deemed stronger and more persuasive. That is the test, that has been set down in Islam.

Others may look for compassion, love and benevolence in their Gods, and consider that to be the criteria for the Supremeness of God, but that is not the criteria as has been laid down by the Prophet of Peace. There submission is decided by totally different rules and criteria.

So those who have embraced the message of Islam in all its glory and gore, like in Pakistan, can be won over only by using the same path of submission as laid down in Islam - brutal and ruthless oppression! Before an Islamic graduates to the enlightenment at Saraswati's Feet, his schooling has to be undertaken under the crushing feet of Kali.

Anybody who passes the test, wins the Islamic heart, and the Islamic will willingly convert! Allah and Mohammed can be forsaken and left behind, if the order of the new God convinces them of his strength!

The strong horse wins! That is how I understand Islamic logic!

That is also why Taliban's Allah is winning over Pakjabi Allah!

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Aug 2011 21:14

With the Pakistani situation being so dire, I wonder if the Chinese technicians at Chashma also do the actual painting job.

Ambar · Post by **Ambar** » 25 Aug 2011 21:20

Friday cometh! IED Mubarak in Nowshera - 9 dead,several injured!

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 25 Aug 2011 21:32

RajeshA

There is a story i have read about one of Ranjit Singh's generals (Ventura?) who, while runing his appointed area from Lahore, would throw a pathan tribal to his death from a mosque tower, daily, for no reason at all. Each day, one would be taken to the top and thrown to his death, in full view of the public.

While this may seem terrible from today's metrics, it worked wonders in keeping the tribal crazies at bay. They could respect the capricious cruelty and the horror of their overlord, and there was perfect communication.

Not sure of the veracity of the exact details, but the message resounds even today.

Post 71, IG's decency was repaid by the grass eaters in ways we continue to see today.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 25 Aug 2011 21:34

Burki's gone Thharki. Don't miss the India comparisons.
Pakistan’s economy has rich potential to grow fast: Burki

Pakistan’s economy can catch up fairly fast to the developed world, as compared with India, by adopting proper policy and fully mobilizing the available rich natural and human resources.

Burki said that Pakistan’s GDP growth had been double of India’s growth rate of 2-3 percent for four decades 1947-1987.

He quoted a recent Harvard University study which has mentioned that Pakistan’s higher education sector was performing better than India and Bangladesh.This, he attributed to the investment made by the private sector in education.

Syed Hasan Javed, High Commissioner of Pakistan in Singapore who was guest honour on this occasion said South Asia is blessed with rich heritage and natural, physical and human resources.

I need to read that Harvard study and analyze it.

AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 25 Aug 2011 21:38

Admins, this should be added to the first post links

Pakistani Military Officers' Links with Jihadist Organizations

saip · Post by **saip** » 25 Aug 2011 21:42

If I recall correctly people who complete tertiary education in Pakistan is somewhat higher than India or Bangladesh by a fraction of point. That may be because they are working off a very low base. Say 5.8% of 10 mil in India complete tertiary education compared to 6% of 1 million who do that in Pakiland (not the actual nos).

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 25 Aug 2011 21:43

A_Gupta wrote:^^^ Even baboon tribes - normally very aggressive - can change their culture. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387823/

But Baboons are not Baki or Islamists. Baboons have Culture to change, Baki dont have such heritage. Bakistani Nakalzadeh will change if Arabs change .

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 25 Aug 2011 22:07

anupmisra wrote:

He quoted a recent Harvard University study which has mentioned that Pakistan’s higher education sector was performing better than India and Bangladesh

I need to read that Harvard study and analyze it.[/quote]

Burki Saar, thats why I didn't go to harvard. Please do tell the procedure to apply here:

Kasb Institute of Technology

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 25 Aug 2011 23:59

From The News (posting in full). TSP gets its hands on Drone technology.
US drone crashes in Chaman

Updated 3 hours ago
CHAMAN: A US drone has crashed near FC Cantonment in Chaman, Geo News reported Thursday.

FC authorities confirmed that an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) of US origin while flying over the area hit the ground and burst into flames.

More details are yet to come.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Aug 2011 00:07

Here is mention of the Harvard study
http://tribune.com.pk/story/236961/prep ... n-economy/

Just remember, Pakistan is missing a census and so all its statistics rely on estimates and sample surveys.

The data used here are from the work done by the economists Robert Baro and Jhong-Wha Lee at Harvard University. Looking at this data, it appears that compared to other large countries of South Asia, Pakistan is doing better in an area that could be tremendously important for its economic and social future.

In 2010, India had 67 per cent of the 15-plus age group in school while Pakistan had 62 per cent. However, it is at the other end of the educational spectrum — what educationists call the tertiary stage — that Pakistan seems to be doing considerably better than other South Asian countries.

In 1950, for India and Pakistan, the proportion of people attending tertiary institutions was 0.6 per cent. Since this has increased to 5.8 per cent for India, a ten-fold increase, and to 5.5 per cent for Pakistan, a nine-fold growth. For Bangladesh, the increase was spectacular, a twenty-fold growth. However, it is the impressive increase for Pakistan that provides the element of surprise.

Pakistan does well in one critical area — the drop-out rate in tertiary education. Those who complete tertiary education in Pakistan account for a larger proportion of persons who enter school at this level. The proportion is much higher for girls, another surprising finding for Pakistan.

With a considerably lower drop-out rate at the tertiary level, it is not surprising that the number of years students spend in school in Pakistan (5.6 years) is higher than that in India (5.1 years) but a bit lower than that for Bangladesh ( 5.8 years). For tertiary education alone, Pakistan’s youth spend more time being educated than those in Bangladesh and India.

It is in the last two decades that the real brake occurred in Pakistan. The proportion of the 15-plus age group receiving tertiary education in Pakistan increased from only 2.4 per cent in 1990 to 5.5 per cent in 2010. The proportion of students completing tertiary education in Pakistan is 41 per cent higher than that for India. Better performance, when measured in terms of the proportion of the population receiving tertiary education, matters a great deal for the economic future. As Baro and Lee point out, the estimated rate of return is very high for tertiary education, close to 18 per cent. This is only 10 per cent for secondary education and almost zero for primary education. The state, by only concentrating on primary education, is not buying a better future for the citizenry. It must make it possible to develop tertiary education as well.

Hiten · Post by **Hiten** » 26 Aug 2011 00:18

AFP report about the same: US surveillance drone crashes in Pakistan

An American surveillance drone equipped with a camera crashed in southwestern Pakistan Thursday close to the Afghan border, local officials said, adding the wreckage had been recovered.

The unmanned aircraft went down because of a technical fault just inside Pakistani territory in Chaman town, in insurgency-hit Baluchistan province, but had caused no damage, a security official in the area told AFP.

"It was an American surveillance unmanned aerial vehicle. It crashed on this side of the border," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, adding the wreckage of the aircraft had been recovered.

Earlier this month, The New York Times reported that Pakistan probably let Chinese engineers examine what was left of a top-secret US stealth helicopter that crashed in the country during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in May.

Citing unnamed officials, the newspaper said US intelligence agencies concluded it was likely that Chinese engineers -- at the invitation of Pakistani spies -- took detailed photographs of the severed tail of the Black Hawk helicopter equipped with classified technology designed to elude radar.

Relations between Pakistan and the United States are at a low point, strained by the covert American raid that killed bin Laden near Pakistan's main military academy and Pakistan's earlier detention of a CIA contractor.

An official from Pakistan's paramilitary Frontier Corps in Quetta, Baluchistan province's main town, confirmed Thursday's incident.

"Some spare parts and a camera were also found with it," the official said. "It crashed near a Frontier Corps fort in Chaman but caused no damage."

Such crashes of US drone aircraft are rare but a Pakistani surveillance drone went down in the city of Karachi in July after hitting a bird on a routine flight.

In September 2008, tribesmen in the country's South Waziristan tribal district claimed to have shot down a US surveillance drone in Jalal village near the Afghan border.

The Pakistani army said it was investigating but did not make the results of that probe public.

The United States uses unmanned aircraft in its war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and to monitor militants in Pakistan, from where Al-Qaeda and Taliban-linked fighters launch attacks in Afghanistan.

It also uses Predator armed drones to launch missile attacks aimed at militants in Pakistan's unstable northwestern border areas.

The campaign is deeply unpopular among an anti-American public and the government has publicly demanded an end to the attacks, although in private military and civilian leaders are thought to co-operate with the programme.

Copyright © 2011 AFP. All rights reserved.

do these drones carry spares with them on missions, for situations like these, where if they crash, anybody locating them can fix it & send it soaring back into the blue skies? this one is even better - these UAVs are probably self-healing/fixing. pakistanis have landed themselves a great haul

subodh · Post by **subodh** » 26 Aug 2011 00:22

A_Gupta

Unless i am not understanding this right - this dude has written this OpEd in the last few days, referencing a paper written in August 2000, which uses a data set that ends in 1995.

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/facult ... p_jwha.pdf

Also, as a lay person, i am not sure what 'tertiery' education means - and if its generically comparable - an IT degree from an Indian colllege may not be the same as an I(nternational) T(errorism) degree from a paki madraasa. But again, i could be wrong, and they have controlled for this.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Aug 2011 00:24

Hiten wrote:AFP report about the same: US surveillance drone crashes in Pakistan

So now the Chinese have access to drone technology also! Wah!

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 26 Aug 2011 00:47

Here is mention of the Harvard study

u mean Harvard ,NJ ?

Sure madarssa institute of tekniki teaching djineering in the state of the art manner...

Bliss to send this to benis...

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 00:53

I swear I am not making this title up. Zardari orders indiscriminate action

Zardari orders indiscriminate action against miscreants

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 26 Aug 2011 00:56

anupmisra wrote:I swear I am not making this title up. Zardari orders indiscriminate action

Zardari orders indiscriminate action against miscreants

Great!

Zardari has finally delivered his long awaited Tryst with Dysentery speech

Bah! and Kaffirs on this forum including Benny ji were going gaga over some Anna

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 26 Aug 2011 01:12

From Tribune:(posting in full)

US reconnaissance drone crashes in Chaman

By Express / Shehzad Balcoh
Published: August 25, 2011
Security officials gather near a damaged US surveillance drone which crashed at the Pak-Afghan border on August 25, 2011. PHOTO: PPI

CHAMAN: A US spy plane crashed into Pakistani territory in Chaman, near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in Balochistan, on Thursday evening.

According to Express 24/7 correspondent, Mohamamd Kazim, the drone was surveying the border when it crashed near the Pishin Scouts compound in Chaman, 300 meters inside Pakistani territory.

Frontier Constabulary officials confirmed the crash and said that they had taken custody of the drone and would attempt the uncover the reason for the crash.

The official went on to say that the drone was not carrying any weapons systems and was probably for surveillance purposes.

“The unmanned aerial vehicle had two spy cameras and it crashed near the Frontier Corps (FC) headquarters in Chaman, a bordering township with Afghanistan,” an eyewitness said.

A heavy contingent of Frontier Corps and other law enforcement agencies rushed to the spot and sealed off the area and took control of the wreckage.

“The remotely controlled aircraft was not brought down by security forces and may have crashed as result of technical fault,” official sources said, adding that it was three feet wide and four feet long.

The US, which owns and operates much of the drones in this region flies both, armed and unarmed drones for a number of reasons. The Predator and Reaper models of their drones are armed with hellfire missiles, used to attack and destroy targets on either side of the border.

Pakistan and the US have been at odds with each other over the operation of drones, more so after a stealth raid by US special forces into Pakistani town of Abbottabad which killed Osama bin Laden. Pakistan has repeatedly asked US to stop flights of armed drones into its territory and that Washington either sell or transfer technology for drones to Pakistan in order to conduct effective campaign against militants in areas bordering Afghanistan.

This is the fourth US drone crash this week with two reconnaissance crafts going down in northern Afghan city of Balkh, while another drone went down to “technical fault” in Ghazni.

NATO forces or American forces had not contacted Pakistani officials in this regard till this report was filed. Nor they had demanded return of the wreckage of the UAV.

The unmanned aircraft took off from American owned Qarar Ga airbase near Spinboldak in Kandahar.

No group has claimed the responsibility for incident till this report was filed.

The allied forces had also violated the Pakistan airspace in past near Bab-i-Dosti gate in Chaman and Pakistan officials also recorded their protest with NATO officials in this regard. However, it was for the first time that any American manufactured aircraft landed in Balochistan, thought, such incidents are common in Tribal areas of Pakistan.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 01:26

Mahendra wrote:Bah! and Kaffirs on this forum including Benny ji were going gaga over some Anna

Crazy Benny from pakiland? Reminds me of Benny Lava. Enjoy!

saip · Post by **saip** » 26 Aug 2011 01:39

This is a small drone ('it was three feet wide and four feet long') and for all you know it is probably one of the drones US gave to Pakis. Anyway here is another link and look at the picture (

) and the text which says ' The debris of the plane was under FC officials.' Obviously the plane went up one of FC's behind!

Nutty Nation

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 26 Aug 2011 02:11

@A-Gupta ^^^. Why not email the authors and ask them whether they've done a follow-up and whether they still feel the findings hold 'true' today? Their email addresses are in the PDF.

You can then quote a response and post here

KLNMurthy · Post by **KLNMurthy** » 26 Aug 2011 03:35

anupmisra wrote:I swear I am not making this title up. Zardari orders indiscriminate action

Zardari orders indiscriminate action against miscreants

Headline writer's pakiness only.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 26 Aug 2011 06:26

Cross posting from China thread
China Launches Communications Satellite For Pakistan – Analysis

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Aug 2011 06:56

A_Gupta wrote:
Just remember, Pakistan is missing a census and so all its statistics rely on estimates and sample surveys.

Minor nitpick. Technically Pakistan is missing 2 census reports.

The last census in 1996 was actually the one that was to have been held in 1991. So they should have had one in 2001 and 2011. But I recall at least one Pakhani argument that asked "why sould it be at the beginning of a decade?"

I suppose another argument good for Pakhanis would be "Why have a census at all? Allah will care for us"

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Aug 2011 07:17

subodh wrote:A_Gupta

Unless i am not understanding this right - this dude has written this OpEd in the last few days, referencing a paper written in August 2000, which uses a data set that ends in 1995.

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/facult ... p_jwha.pdf

Also, as a lay person, i am not sure what 'tertiery' education means - and if its generically comparable - an IT degree from an Indian colllege may not be the same as an I(nternational) T(errorism) degree from a paki madraasa. But again, i could be wrong, and they have controlled for this.

The paper by Robert J. Barro and Jong-Wha Lee which has got Shahid Javed Burki all excited was apparently updated and published by NBER in April 2010 :

A NEW DATA SET OF EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT IN THE WORLD, 1950–2010

Prima facie going by the Appendix on Page 46 of the NBER paper, data for India is derived from 1991 data while for the Islamic Republic it is derived from 2006. That may or may not be significant.

For those who wish to delve deeper into the statistics and understand the fine print, the dataset used for the paper is linked from this page:.

Barro Lee

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 26 Aug 2011 07:18

shiv wrote:I suppose another argument good for Pakhanis would be "Why have a census at all? Allah will care for us"

Because Allah knows all (about the pakis).

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 26 Aug 2011 07:28

Checking the spread of AIDS in Pakistan

'Clearing' Kurram

arun · Post by **arun** » 26 Aug 2011 07:42

Ambar wrote:Friday cometh! IED Mubarak in Nowshera - 9 dead,several injured!

The Ramadan / Ramzan month demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan yesterday seems to have targeted the Pakistan Air Force:

Five PAF personnel among 11 killed in Nowshera blast

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 26 Aug 2011 08:05

For those who wish to delve deeper into the statistics and understand the fine print, the dataset used for the paper is linked from this page:.

Barro Lee

This guy proclaims to be from Univ of korea...search of college of economics and politics Univ of korea does not reveal his name.... has a .com domain , and can't write decent sql scripts for his site database...

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 26 Aug 2011 08:20

arun wrote:
subodh wrote:A_Gupta

Unless i am not understanding this right - this dude has written this OpEd in the last few days, referencing a paper written in August 2000, which uses a data set that ends in 1995.

http://www.economics.harvard.edu/facult ... p_jwha.pdf

Also, as a lay person, i am not sure what 'tertiery' education means - and if its generically comparable - an IT degree from an Indian colllege may not be the same as an I(nternational) T(errorism) degree from a paki madraasa. But again, i could be wrong, and they have controlled for this.
The paper by Robert J. Barro and Jong-Wha Lee which has got Shahid Javed Burki all excited was apparently updated and published by NBER in April 2010 :

A NEW DATA SET OF EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT IN THE WORLD, 1950–2010

Prima facie going by the Appendix on Page 46 of the NBER paper, data for India is derived from 1991 data while for the Islamic Republic it is derived from 2006. That may or may not be significant.

No sense in SDREs getting confused by a Pakis article - it is invariably lies or subterfuge to present Pakistan in a better light. Fool me once and the fault is yours, fool me twice etc. By tertiary education this Pakhani means "education after age 15".

There are several well known facts about education for which one seen to delve into the arcane figures that the Pakhani has used to show Pakistan's superiority over India. The Pakhani writes as if primary education is less important but tertiary education is more important because "rate of return is higher for tertiary education" according to "Baro and Lee"

Primary education is fundamentally important for development because it equips a population with survival skills in the modern world. Primary education is needed to learn how to avoid disease, nutrition and health and access to weather and other data that are needed for avoiding disasters. Disease and natural calamities add a huge burden to any population that add to poverty and misery and the only way to help people out of that is primary and secondary education.

You need tertiary education and beyond that (college) for modern economic productivity. That is where your engineers and PhDs come in.

If your primary education is low - but then you claim that of the very few who are getting primary education many are getting tertiary education, it means bullshit.

In a population of 10 million - if only 10 kids get primary education and of those 10 kids, 5 become PhDs they are hardly going to improve the economy that is pulled down by the rest of the 10 million. But this Paki is trying to spin it as if it is doing exactly that in Pakistan. The Paki beggar economy itself shows that he is bullshitting only to himself. No one else needs to be fooled. Fool me once and it's you fault etc.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 26 Aug 2011 08:37

Another cable regarding Qasmani, the LeT person the US fingered as being responsible for Samjhauta Express bombing has been released. It doesn't add anything, but reproducing it here:
July 27, 2009
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2009/07/09BEIJING2137.html

UNCLAS BEIJING 002137

C O R R E C T E D C O P Y - SENSITIVE CAPTION ADDED

SENSITIVE

SIPDIS

DEPT FOR EEB/ESC/TFS(LSRECHT)

E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: EFIN PGOV KTFN ECON PTER CH
SUBJECT: TERRORISM FINANCE: UN AND U.S. DOMESTIC
DESIGNATION OF QASMANI, MUJAHID, AND AL-PESHAWARI

REF: SECSTATE 70271

¶1. (SBU)On July 23, Poloff conveyed to MFA International
Organizations and Conferences Department UN Division Officer
Li Jun reftel points requesting China to freeze the assets of
and take other necessary actions against Qasmani, Mujahid,
and Al-Peshawari in accordance with UNSCR 1267 designation
requirements. In response Li told Poloff that China takes
its obligations under UNSCR 1267 very seriously and will
carry out its obligations under the resolution as necessary.
Li had no other substantive response pending further internal
Chinese government consultation.
GOLDBERG