CRamS wrote:Guys, we might kick and scream as would the Afghans, but there is a simple reality we must deal with and I thougt out aloud about this a long time ago on BR. After the initial ferrocity and gumption in launching the so called GWOT, with the zenith being even white maacho football players that capture the imagination of majority of whites joining in, on the fight against the "bad guys", reality has replaced fatnasy. Short of someone aiding Jihadis big time, there is no way Afganisthan is going become another launch pad for a 9/11 type attack. And TSP can guarantee that. With its proxies in power in Afganisthan, they will have everybody there by their b@lls. So Americans have no issue handing over Afganisthan to TSP in return for no terror on whites. The payoff being India out of Afganistan and TSP gets to keep LeT. A diabolical bargain, but not a bad one from US PoV. That seems to be the unstated mantra now. I cannot believe that US is begging Haqqni to talk. Thoo.
CRamS, let's assume you are right on this... the diabolical bargain that you describe is under way right now.
Only one question. Why wasn't this deal already done? US has no wish to keep bleeding in AfPak. Many factions in Washington have wanted to get out of there since the financial crisis blew up in 2008.
If the US had made this deal months or years ago, it could have saved a lot of money and lives, and Obama could have looked like a great hero for "bringing the troops home." In fact, if the US is seriously considering such a deal... Obama should have directly announced that he was going to bring the troops home, right after the Abbotabad raid. "Getting Bin Laden" would have silenced any critics who were insisting that Obama "stay the course." Obama could have given 400% credit to TSPA/ISI for helping to get Bin Laden, expressed his trust in Pakistan to guarantee the safety of the West from terrorist attacks, and withdrawn from Afghanistan... handing over the whole region to Pakistan's control as you describe.
Pakistan would have been delighted to kick India out of Afghanistan and dominate Afghanistan via the Haqqanis, plus use the LeT against India... all in exchange for guaranteeing that there would be no more terrorist attacks out of Afghanistan against white people.
So why isn't this already the case? I have no doubt that the US would love to be able to do this. But why haven't they been able to?