Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): Sep 22, 2011

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Oct 2011 06:58

ManuT wrote:Riedel on Pakistani Intelligence’s Relationship to Terrorism

By Spencer Ackerman
06.04.09 | 3:35 pm

That article is 2 years old.

ManuT · Post by **ManuT** » 11 Oct 2011 07:12

shiv wrote:
ManuT wrote:Riedel on Pakistani Intelligence’s Relationship to Terrorism

By Spencer Ackerman
06.04.09 | 3:35 pm
That article is 2 years old.

Yes sir, it was not known 2 years ago that OBL will get bumped off by US. He is saying this (Riedel) 6 months after Mumbai attacks.
I am only establishing a time line. His comments should have been known to the interviewer who interviewed him recently and should have held him to account.

BTW, snake oil salesman if ever there was one.

9.20-9.30

Lastly,
17 parts (This will be tedious, haven't watched all the parts, will see how much can I get it)
Here goes
[youtube]dfX5R1gpe6o&feature=related[/youtube]

^Part 3, interesting. Baghdad pact 1958 we went against NAM (Suhawardy's visit to US omitted). US abandoned TSP in 1965! 1971, when TSP was attacked.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Oct 2011 07:24

ManuT wrote: Yes sir, it was not known 2 years ago that OBL will get bumped off by US. He is saying this (Riedel) 6 months after Mumbai attacks.
I am only establishing a time line. His comments should have been known to the interviewer who interviewed him recently and should have held him to account.

Oh OK. I thought you were talking about Riedel. Although Riedel has been a bit iffy of late - in that article he is right on the money. IMO. He says (rightly) that the ISI should not be called a "rogue" organization because it is not rogue. It is doing its job of protecting Paki elite/military interests. But it had been penetrated by jihadis who are against that elite narrative. It had not turned totally jihadi (in 2009)

Calling the ISI rogue has been a silly media error. Although we knewd different - most people ended, including some un-clued-in US lawmakers probably believed that "reining the ISI in" would somehow make the Pakistan army moderate.

I must post my graphic of the relationship between Pakistan army and Jihadis which is the same as the relationship between Pakistn army and jihadis. It is an internal fight between "More islamic Jihadis" and "Slightly pale green Islamic Paki army/ISI". The US has been suporting the latter thinking it is "moderate". That is how people like that Haroon scumbag get a voice. The US think he is moderate and secular.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 11 Oct 2011 08:34

From above - the Pakistani ambassador to the UN claims....

Abdullah Hussain Haroon, Pakistan’s ambassador to the United Nations, about the release of that Lashkar-e-Taiba leader, Hafiz Saeed. Haroon defended Saeed and denied that he’s a terrorist:

Are you familiar in any way with the work of Hafiz Saeed? He’s not LET. He’s Jamaat-ud-Dawah [a front group for the LET], and it’s a purely social organization.

But, he's saying this about the same person who only a few years before this statement from at least 2003
http://www.gatewayforindia.com/articles ... _india.htm

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the ever-so erudite [b]Hafeez Sayeed who postulated "Killing Hindus is the way to move forward"[/b]

Terrorism from Pakistan is not due to its army - its due to the fact, that its people are terrorists or terrorist supporters. No Pakistani institution or family is far separated from terrorism and its support system in any form.

Kanishka · Post by **Kanishka** » 11 Oct 2011 11:05

BTW, snake oil salesman if ever there was one.

Pakis like to talk big and this scum is no different.
What is astonishing however is the amount of lecturing in this video.
Perhaps he is forgetting that he represents the most violent nation on earth, an international pariah state and an out caste which also
happens to be the most backword in terms of education, religious freedom, social justice, economy ...

Delusional scums!

menon s · Post by **menon s** » 11 Oct 2011 11:12

Kanishka wrote:
BTW, snake oil salesman if ever there was one.

Pakis like to talk big and this scum is no different.
What is astonishing however is the amount of lecturing in this video.
Perhaps he is forgetting that he represents the most violent nation on earth, an international pariah state and an out caste which also
happens to be the most backword in terms of education, religious freedom, social justice, economy ...

Delusional scums!

There are three oil containers that bring in furnace oil, every two weeks, that dock into Karachi harbour. If all three get hijacked, then there is no electricity to even supply, the PAF Masroor, air base, forget civilian installations in Karachi. And blokes like this, talk as if they are gods gift to humanity? Lets forget straw men like this.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2011 11:56

The usual 'TSP is a victim and good guy onlee' argument being peddled for the nth time hoping some of it might stick if they close their eyes and keep chanting it.
Afghanistan and the war

It is a known fact that the roots of present extremism in Afghanistan and Pakistan can be traced back to the Russian invasion of Afghanistan, when the Mujahideen were being provided help against the communists. The dangerously armed Mujaheeden were left alone by all to fight among themselves for Kabul after the Soviet Union withdrew. Many of those who fought against the Soviets are dead by now but their part of the land remains very much the same as it was during the soviet invasion.

The war ragged Afghanistan could not make its way out of economic ditch it had fallen into because of the Soviet invasion. Pakistan being a neighbor of Afghanistan could not have escaped the effects of Afghanistan’s destruction.

Pakistan preoccupation with the war has brought Pakistan into a net of chronic problems. The successive governments have been utilizing large amounts of national resources in a protracted conflict landing the country in a plethora. {So aids and alms received by fooling unkil is now pakinational resources hainji?} Pakistan now has an ailing economy, energy shortfall and a diminishing trust for foreign investment. Diplomatically efforts are being made to bog down Pakistan and put the blame of a failing Afghanistan on Pakistan.

The law enforcement operations conducted by Pakistan army in its tribal region have been more successful than those of U.S and allied forces operations in Afghanistan. Pakistan has been paying a heavy price for its commitment in the war against terror. Pakistan has suffered more than thirty five thousand casualties in terrorist violence from the year 2003 to 2011 along with an economic cost of more than $68.9 billion.

The Government of Pakistan is most sincere in rooting out extremism. Remarkable gains made by the Pakistan army against extremists are being supplemented by government efforts to socially uplift the people. The 2010 summer floods and the recent floods in Sindh have shattered the already fragile economy of Pakistan. Pakistan’s vital role in helping achieve a safer world can only be enhanced if Pakistani efforts are acknowledged. The recurrent U.S and Afghan blames against Pakistan and its armed forces would not help improve the situation in Afghanistan. Ten years of Allied and Afghan failures are not because of Pakistan but because of Afghanistan’s political and economic problems and their solution lay in Afghanistan.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 11 Oct 2011 12:27

FT: Time to take on Pakistan’s jihadist spies

By Mansoor Ijaz

October 10, 2011 7:58 pm

Early on May 9, a week after US Special Forces stormed the hideout of Osama bin Laden and killed him, a senior Pakistani diplomat telephoned me with an urgent request. Asif Ali Zardari, Pakistan’s president, needed to communicate a message to White House national security officials that would bypass Pakistan’s military and intelligence channels. The embarrassment of bin Laden being found on Pakistani soil had humiliated Mr Zardari’s weak civilian government to such an extent that the president feared a military takeover was imminent. He needed an American fist on his army chief’s desk to end any misguided notions of a coup – and fast.

Gen Ashfaq Kayani, the army chief, and his troops were demoralised by the embarrassing ease with which US special forces had violated Pakistani sovereignty . Inter-Services Intelligence, Pakistan’s feared spy service, was charged by virtually the entire international community with complicity in hiding bin Laden for almost six years. Both camps were looking for a scapegoat; Mr Zardari was their most convenient target.

The diplomat made clear that the civilian government’s preferred channel to receive Mr Zardari’s message was Admiral Mike Mullen, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff. He was a time-tested friend of Pakistan and could convey the necessary message with force not only to President Barack Obama, but also to Gen Kayani.

In a flurry of phone calls and emails over two days a memorandum was crafted that included a critical offer from the Pakistani president to the Obama administration: “The new national security team will eliminate Section S of the ISI charged with maintaining relations to the Taliban, Haqqani network, etc. This will dramatically improve relations with Afghanistan.”
The memo was delivered to Admiral Mullen at 14.00 hours on May 10. A meeting between him and Pakistani national security officials took place the next day at the White House. Pakistan’s military and intelligence chiefs, it seems, neither heeded the warning, nor acted on the admiral’s advice.
On September 22, in his farewell testimony to the Senate armed services committee, Admiral Mullen said he had “credible intelligence” that a bombing on September 11 that wounded 77 US and Nato troops and an attack on the US embassy in Kabul on September 13 were done “with ISI support.” Essentially he was indicting Pakistan’s intelligence services for carrying out a covert war against the US – perhaps in retaliation for the raid on bin Laden’s compound, perhaps out of strategic national interest to put Taliban forces back in power in Afghanistan so that Pakistan would once again have the “strategic depth” its paranoid security policies against India always envisioned.

Questions about the ISI’s role in Pakistan have intensified in recent months. The finger of responsibility in many otherwise inexplicable attacks has often pointed to a shadowy outfit of ISI dubbed “S-Wing”, which is said to be dedicated to promoting the dubious agenda of a narrow group of nationalists who believe only they can protect Pakistan’s territorial integrity.

The time has come for the state department to declare the S-Wing a sponsor of terrorism under the designation of “foreign governmental organisations”. Plans by the Obama administration to blacklist the Haqqani network are toothless and will have no material impact on the group’s military support and intelligence logistics; it is S-Wing that allegedly provides all of this in the first place. It no longer matters whether ISI is wilfully blind, complicit or incompetent in the attacks its S-Wing is carrying out. S-Wing must be stopped.

ISI embodies the scourge of radicalism that has become a cornerstone of Pakistan’s foreign policy. The time has come for America to take the lead in shutting down the political and financial support that sustains an organ of the Pakistani state that undermines global antiterrorism efforts at every turn. Measures such as stopping aid to Pakistan, as a bill now moving through Congress aims to do, are not the solution. More precise policies are needed to remove the cancer that ISI and its rogue wings have become on the Pakistani state.

Pakistanis are not America’s enemies. Neither is their incompetent and toothless civilian government – the one Admiral Mullen was asked to help that May morning. The enemy is a state organ that breeds hatred among Pakistan’s Islamist masses and then uses their thirst for jihad against Pakistan’s neighbours and allies to sate its hunger for power. Taking steps to reduce its influence over Pakistan’s state affairs is a critical measure of the world’s willingness to stop the terror masters at their very roots.

The writer is an American of Pakistani ancestry. In 1997 he negotiated Sudan’s offer of counter-terrorism assistance to the Clinton administration

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 Oct 2011 13:38

Some contacts I have touched base with have indicated that following the Mullen talk with Kayani, the S-Wing was indeed closed. Kayani issued a clear directive, which pretty much all external agencies detected (and friendly ones were passing around the English pdf accordingly). But the attacks continued.

In mid-September it was discovered that a new wing of the ISI had emerged. This was not easily detected, as only a couple of agencies intercepted communications referring to an FU-wing. Nevertheless, soon enough everyone was passing around the respective pdf (this time in Urdu). Needless to say, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mullen was soon appraised of this development; apparently this was while he was having a coffee at the Pentagon with Panetta and Petraeus. The timing was unfortunate for Pakistan. This is what resulted in the Mullen testimony, a display of American testicular fortitude which, soon enough unfortunately, resulted in utter policy flaccidity after sufficient cold water was thrown on it by Hillary and others with foggy bottoms.

rohitvats · Post by **rohitvats** » 11 Oct 2011 13:46

FU-Wing--->Fu*K You (americans) wing....

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2011 14:35

Hundreds in Pakistan rally for convicted governor’s assassin as he appeals death sentence

ISLAMABAD — Hundreds of demonstrators have rallied in support of a Pakistani man convicted of assassinating a liberal governor in the name of Islam.

Tuesday’s rally took place as Mumtaz Qadri appealed his death sentence before a high court.

Khwaja Sharif, Qadri’s lawyer, said the court in Islamabad halted his client’s execution until it rules on the appeal — a common procedural step.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2011 14:41

Pakistan`s governor escapes missile attack

KALAYA (Reuters) - Militants fired two missiles at a rally led by the governor of Pakistan's northwestern Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa province on Tuesday, killing one person and wounding four, but the governor was not hurt, security officials said.

Governor Masood Kasur was to address ethnic Pashtun tribal leaders when the rally was attacked in Kalaya, a town in the Orakzai region, the officials said.

"The governor was receiving a briefing before the start of the function when the rockets struck. He is safe," senior government official Fazal Qadir told Reuters.

"One rocket fell near the helipad while the other landed inside the ground where the rally was being held."

Orakzai is one of the seven agencies of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas in the northwest. All but Orakzai shares a border with Afghanistan.

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Oct 2011 15:01

Some contacts I have touched base with have indicated that following the Mullen talk with Kayani, the S-Wing was indeed closed. Kayani issued a clear directive, which pretty much all external agencies detected (and friendly ones were passing around the English pdf accordingly). But the attacks continued.

In mid-September it was discovered that a new wing of the ISI had emerged. This was not easily detected, as only a couple of agencies intercepted communications referring to an FU-wing.

TSP keeps pulling the oldest trick in its book of renaming its troublesome orgs like LeT/JeM etc and US keeps falling for it again and again?

Did the US really expect the Pakis to disband their crown jewel within the ISI and hang the much decorated officers out to dry?

Next US will ask TSP to disband ISI and then they will rename it to some "Pakistani peace lovers org" or something similar and US will buy that too...

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Oct 2011 15:07

More Aman-ki-Asha from TSP, this time at UN:
Kashmir is NOT an integral part of India: Pakistan

In provocative comments, Pakistan on Tuesday claimed that Jammu and Kashmir has never been an "integral part" of India and sought a United Nations-led plebiscite to determine the will of the Kashmiri people, evoking an angry rebuttal by India which termed the remarks as "unwarranted".

"Jammu and Kashmir is neither an integral part of India, nor has it ever been so," Tahir Hussain Andrabi, counselor at Pakistan's Permanent Mission to the UN, said during a debate at the General Assembly.

Raising New Delhi's hackles, Pakistan's Deputy Permanent Representative to the UN Raza Bashir Tarar said, "In South Asia, the inalienable right to self-determination of the people of JK had been recognised by a number of Security Council resolutions. Indeed, the UN decolonisation agenda would be incomplete without the resolution of the JK dispute."

Responding to the statement, Indian representative R Ravindra (First Secretary) said the reference made by the Pakistani official to Jammu and Kashmir "is unwarranted and completely irrelevant to the work of this Committee."

"I would like to remind the distinguished representative of Pakistan that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. The Indian Constitution guarantees fundamental rights to all its citizens. The people of Jammu and Kashmir have expressed their free will by participating in free and fair elections held at regular intervals," Ravindra said in exercise of the right of reply.

parsuram · Post by **parsuram** » 11 Oct 2011 15:41

So this haroon pig says " the way forward is to kill hindus". So why not come and preach to the extinct musslas of Amritsar, Ambala, Jalandhar, etc on how to move forward. We wait for the mighty pig.

abhischekcc · Post by **abhischekcc** » 11 Oct 2011 16:20

sum wrote:Next US will ask TSP to disband ISI and then they will rename it to some "Pakistani peace lovers org" or something similar and US will buy that too...

Maybe they will merge with FOSA/FOIL, arundhati roy, dilip padgaonkar, etc

Oh wait, they already did that.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Oct 2011 16:29

Decision on India's Afghan Transit trade after next month's meeting: Pakistani Commerce Minister

Pakistan's Commerce Minister Makhdoom Amin Fahim today said any decision on giving India transit trade rights to transport goods to Afghanistan will be made after a meeting of the Commerce Secretaries of India and Pakistan next month.

"The Commerce Secretary-level talks are being held in India next month and the issue of granting a Pakistani trade corridor (to India) for exports to Afghanistan will be discussed in that meeting, and any decision will be taken after that," Fahim said.

"India has assured us that it would support our case for (duty-free) access to EU markets," Fahim told the reporters.

Now, Pakistan was expected to accord MFN status to us when Fahim visited India last month. Nothing of that sort happened except that India agreed to issue multiple-entry visas to these terrorists. Now, they are dangling another carrot of Afghan Transit Trade and are seemingly extracting the no-objection to the grant of special EU status for Pakistani goods.

After the Indo-Afghan Strategic Security Pact, what chance does the transit trade have ?

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 11 Oct 2011 16:50

SSridhar wrote: After the Indo-Afghan Strategic Security Pact, what chance does the transit trade have ?

Despite lots euphoria here, the jury is still out on this pact. I am sure back channel deals are being worked out by US between his two munnas, Kiyani & MMS. I read between the lines of what US mouthpieces spill from time to time. In this case, I am refering to Michael O'hanlon (establishment dude) who said that Indian embassies in several Afghan cities can be closed down as part of a 'deal'. So lets wait and watch to see what MMS has given up for making piss with TSP before we believe this pact has any teeth.

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 11 Oct 2011 19:00

sum wrote:
Responding to the statement, Indian representative R Ravindra (First Secretary) said the reference made by the Pakistani official to Jammu and Kashmir "is unwarranted and completely irrelevant to the work of this Committee."

Reminds of this story wherein a man dug a grave for a neighbor. That, being just a story, had some colorful events culminating in the man falling in the same.

Theo_Fidel · Post by **Theo_Fidel** » 11 Oct 2011 19:05

Since the Hunza landslide TSP is physically cut off from Panda Land.

If TSP asked for access to the connection through Indian Kashmir I suspect the GOI may give it to them. Esp. in exchange for the Afghan connector. Long term too the connection through Kashmir or for that matter through Sikkim is truly all weather (open in winter) and far far easier than that crazy mountain route through the Karakorum.

If they asked for this connection in exchange IMO we should give it to them. Of course with the usual inspection and security protocols.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 11 Oct 2011 19:41

JEM, You should have smiley on that post of yours on the new unit.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 Oct 2011 21:07

Sushupti · Post by **Sushupti** » 12 Oct 2011 01:20

Abdul shouts "Altaf Kutta", realizes which protest he's at, slaps head & shouts "Mirza Kutta"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Oct 2011 01:20

Well meaning people have "Doctors without borders" etc.

Pakis have "Terrorists without borders!"

Ramen · Post by **Ramen** » 12 Oct 2011 01:42

anmol wrote:
FT: Time to take on Pakistan’s jihadist spies

By Mansoor Ijaz
More precise policies are needed to remove the cancer that ISI and its rogue wings have become on the Pakistani state.

Ah, first the Paki Army was one of the good guys, it was just the rogue ISI. Now ISI is also kosher, just one wing/section that is rogue. Soon it will be a small rogue group and then one rogue individual who is responsible for all the terrorism and barbarianism emanating from TSP just like Khan was one lone individual responsible for the nuclear smuggling. Have to give it to RAPE for trying and spinning this, but then again, the world brought it first time, so why not...

BTW, my first post (though I been lurker for a long time)... so warm greetings.

Sen_K · Post by **Sen_K** » 12 Oct 2011 01:51

Pakistan wants 50 Indian engines, Railways says no

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 12 Oct 2011 01:51

Today i played angry birds game for first time. Some kid told me its a hugely popular game. For some reason i thought its a paki-inspired game. The birds seem to be rage-boy type suicide bummers who you fling with a catapult. They scream something that seems like jeeehaaad and then crash into structures (killing themselves) that have pigs in them. If the birds can knock out the pigs then you advance (to next level for more soosai bombing) otherwise you got to do it all over again.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Oct 2011 02:14

Angry birds and pigs! Hmmmm.... Sounds a lot like Dronacharya raining down Hellfire on various pig types!

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 12 Oct 2011 02:26

Sen_K wrote:Pakistan wants 50 Indian engines, Railways says no

This article gives another interesting comparison point:

Over 300 of Pakistan Railways’ 500 locomotives are out of order, leading to a loss of Rs 25 billion a year, authorities said.

The Indian Railways has 4,214 electric and 6,000 diesel engines. Two hundred engines roll out of each of its two public sector manufacturing units every year. It is massively short of its Vision 2020 target of 1,200 engines annually.

So in total, there is a 20:1 ratio in number of Indian locomotives versus Pure locomotives. But only 200 of the Pure ones still work. Assuming all 10000 Indian ones work, that makes the ratio 50:1. I would assume that this is a telling statistic for the comparitive state of industrialization of the two economies.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 12 Oct 2011 02:31

^ You missed this...

In India, railway officials are not in favour of the deal with Pakistan, for the “corporate risk” it entails. “Relations with Pakistan being what they are, there will always remain the apprehension that India will not get its money back,” a railway ministry official said.

Banias.

But despite this, tenders for the supply of engines to Bangladesh and Myanmar are currently being processed.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 12 Oct 2011 02:36

How long before their whole rail system collapse? Let Pathan Bhais give few jolts and hasten the shutdown. IMHO, Poak rail is ripe for ripping like their Musharraf in 2001.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Oct 2011 02:39

Just supply gur to the Pashtuns and Balochis for their chai!

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 12 Oct 2011 02:44

Prem wrote:How long before their whole rail system collapse? Let Pathan Bhais give few jolts and hasten the shutdown. IMHO, Poak rail is ripe for ripping like their Musharraf in 2001.

Indians will definitely pay a fair price for the scrap metal from rails, wagons and engines they have.

Kanishka · Post by **Kanishka** » 12 Oct 2011 03:19

Pakistan treats enemies of terrorism as enemies of the state

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... the-state/

It’s pretty well known that the ISI has blood all over its hands from assisting the Taliban in Afghanistan, and works against supposed allies as much as it works with them.

If catching bin Laden goes against the national interests of Pakistan, Pakistan must have placed itself outside the community that views terrorism as an international crime. Which means Canada would no longer have much interest in being its friend.

One of the comments:

Pakistan, dishonor is thy name.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Oct 2011 03:34

sum wrote:More Aman-ki-Asha from TSP, this time at UN:
Kashmir is NOT an integral part of India: Pakistan

Another one on similar lines

The fact remains Pakistan annexed half of Kashmir and gained an area of territory in excess of 86000 sq km (larger than Austria) in the 1948 war, It then also defended itself in 1965 and India was forced into a soviet back Declaration called the Tashkent Declaration, The Indian PM Sashtri died within hours of signing the Tashkent Declaration in the overwhelming defeat that India had endured.

You can view that Tashkent Declaration here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGe6L3oIllw

Thats not even talking about the Chinese invasion of India in 1962 where it took Aksai Chin from India.

India has a long tradition of being invaded and loosing territory, Aryans, Muslims, Pakistan, Chinese, SIkhs and ofcourse the British!

Cup of tea!

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 12 Oct 2011 03:46

Sen_K wrote:Pakistan wants 50 Indian engines, Railways says no

A "technologically advanced" nation like Porkistan which makes its own high tech nukes and missiles is supposed to make relatively low tech rail engines, isn't it ?

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 12 Oct 2011 04:00

RajeshA wrote:
Prem wrote:How long before their whole rail system collapse? Let Pathan Bhais give few jolts and hasten the shutdown. IMHO, Poak rail is ripe for ripping like their Musharraf in 2001.
Indians will definitely pay a fair price for the scrap metal from rails, wagons and engines they have.

With hardly any trains running, how soon can we expect rails and sleepers to go missing? And show up in the AK market up north?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Oct 2011 04:23

http://www.voltairenet.org/Next-Stop-is-Pakistan

Next-Stop-is-Pakistan
by Wayne Madsen
It looks as if Syria will have to wait now that - as Wayne Madsen points out - Washington’s priority is seizing Pakistan’s nuclear booty before, as the story goes, it falls into radical islamist hands. The only obstacle remaining was to create an environment acceptable to world public opinion that would justify a multinational intervention in Pakistan. Over the past year and a half, Washington has been attempting to do just that through a crescendo of uninterrupted provocations.

The CIA and Blackwater (now Xe Services) have two major designs in Pakistan – to control the entire business of the Gwadar port and to carry out colossal suicide attacks across central Punjab and north-western areas of the country to tell the world that the first atomic Islamic power is ungovernable.

Rangudu · Post by **Rangudu** » 12 Oct 2011 05:04

Acharya,

What is the point in posting conspiratorial junk about CIA/Blackwater?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Oct 2011 05:29

Where did you find this madcap?

Looks like a Khan Zaid Hamid combined with Gul badan!!!