CRamS wrote:
In contrast, India faces an existential threat from TSP,
My bullshit meter hit full. Are you vying for nishan-e-pakistan? Grow up.
CRamS wrote:
In contrast, India faces an existential threat from TSP,
Islamabad: The funds collected in the Pakistani Prime Minister's fund for flood relief are just peanuts, said a daily on Saturday.
Floods in Sindh province have impacted over seven million people with almost half a million people being accommodated in over 2,500 camps. As many as 1.3 million homes have been damaged and six million acres of land were inundated.
An editorial in the News International said: "There had been widespread doubt in the national media that the prime minister's fund for flood relief would attract much interest, and so it has proved.
"Thus far it has received less than Rs.100 million - just over a million dollars - and calling such a sum 'peanuts' does a disservice to that humble foodstuff."
It said that the majority of that collected comes from official sources such as the National Bank of Pakistan where "people have donated a miserable Rs.0.5 million".
"Government officials are a little shy of discussing how much has been donated, presumably because it is the clearest possible evidence of just how little the public trusts anything that puts the words 'government' and 'money' in the same sentence," it noted.
"There is a similar reticence about how much international donors have given, and the reason is as plain as the nose on one's face. The current dispensation has a national and international reputation of being one of the most corrupt regimes in the history of the state," the editorial added.
sanjaykumar wrote:
So far it is like the morning ablutions of the average westerner- more noise than movement.
The authours emphasizes that TSP obsession is all about India, India, India, ..., India. This is the low-hanging fruit that I US still believes can exploit with willing collaboraters in Delhi, and hence won't result in any action against the ISI. Its the least costly and path of least resistence.abhishek_sharma wrote:Mullen Takes on the ISI: Will Sharp Words Be Backed by Deeds?: Paki guy
Senator Saifullah said that Pakistan and Thailand have a two millenniums old shared history, which still continues to this date. He said that Pakistan s well being is in the interest of Thailand and Thailand s well being in the interest of Pakistan.
Can you please read my post and comment on the substance.sanjaykumar wrote:Coming from an IIT topper like you, this is pitiful analysis.
I have not read the post, but it is curious that such badges of honour seem to be uncovered out for all to glimpse.
"....the zina of the tongue is speaking" : Cunning linguist this hurray guy...shiv wrote:As ulema have said let Hina never be accused of ZinaRajeshA wrote:IMO Pakistanis are the most pious in the world. They will never send a Pakistani woman to go and shake hands of all those foreign men. Who knows what they have been doing with their hands? Hain ji?
http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/76052This was aptly summed up in a Kafir movie that said it just right..What is the ruling on one who is intimate with women but does not commit zina, i.e. kissing etc?.
Praise be to Allaah.
Zina (adultery, fornication) does not refer only to penetration, rather there is the zina of the hand, which is touching that which is forbidden, and the zina of the eyes, which is looking at that which is forbidden, even though zina that is committed with the private parts, is the zina which is punishable with the hadd punishment.
It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah has decreed for every son of Adam his share of zina, which he will inevitably commit. The zina of the eyes is looking, the zina of the tongue is speaking, one may wish and desire, and the private parts confirm that or deny it.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5889; Muslim, 2657.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XOi1GzOgfczina yahaan, marna yahaan
Here is my comment: you write the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over... you get the drift!CRamS wrote: Can you please read my post and comment on the substance.
Very insightful. That is the piskology of Pakistan.KLNMurthy wrote:Apples and oranges. With India it is fury that a 'subject' people are not staying in its place. With US it is the rage of a spoiled son who thinks his father is being strict after a lifetime of pampering.Theo_Fidel wrote:Is anger=hate. Does TSP/TSPians Hate America more than India now?
That is the is the basis for the T**rd World moniker.sanjaykumar wrote:Burkitt the English surgeon in Uganda systematically weighed stool specimens and declared the African to have the higher volume than the European's I humbly submit the Panjabi specimen- the largest in the world. All related to fiber, of course.
No I don't, but if you are not willing to comment on the substance, let it pass.Dipanker wrote: Here is my comment: you write the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over... you get the drift!
CRamS wrote
Coming from an IIT topper like you, this is pitiful analysis.
Some simple piskology.CRamS wrote: Coming from an IIT topper like you, this is pitiful analysis.
CRamS wrote: Can you please read my post and comment on the substance.
As far as i can tell tell points you have made areCRamS wrote:Indeed, TSP poses a difficult problem. But the difficuty it poses for US is different from the difficulty it poses for For India. For US, it is TSP brinkmanship demanding that US deliver India in return for TSP cooperation. For US, this is not a bad value proposition instead of having to assemble a costly war machine to take on TSP directly, and as a collateral side effect, disturb the geo-strategic India TSP balance that has served it well for so long. And yes, US does not need smarty SDREs like you challenging their authroity in Asia and beyond. Hence the ambivalence in forging an alliance with India and solving the TSP problem once for all. But make nomistake about, TSP is not about to pick a fight with US beyond a certail level of brinkmanship. Thats the difficulty US faces
In contrast, India faces an existential threat from TSP, and hence MMS & his dhotiwallahs shivering at the thought of taking on Kiyani & Co. Better to take on Baba Ramdev & Co at Lal Maidan, victory is assured. Easier still to take on "saffron terror" which MMSJi and PCJi have done to perfection.
Finally, just speculating, but reading between the lines of Kiyani's "its unfortunate and not based on facts" and Hina baby's "don't humiliate TSP publicly" remarks post Mullen tough talk, I speculate that TSP did a desparate gubo and begged forgiveness from US in private. Hence the climb down from US side.
RajeshA wrote:
Can Khar Bhai in truth really be a woman?
Naaaaaah!
Mine too.sivab wrote:CRamS wrote:
In contrast, India faces an existential threat from TSP,
My bullshit meter hit full. Are you vying for nishan-e-pakistan? Grow up.
US is unwilling to fight TSP is not because of incompetence or cowardice or lack of capability (all of which apply to India) which you don't say in so many words, but seem to imply. If I am wrong to conclude this, my apologies. Assuming my conclusion is correct, thats where you loose the plot.
The fact that the US is unwilling to fight Pakistan is clear for everyone to see. The fact that the US is the sole remaining superpower is clear for everyone to see.
sivab wrote: My bullshit meter hit full. Are you vying for nishan-e-pakistan? Grow up.
I see. Humor aside, please explain to me MMS's surrender on 26/11.A_Gupta wrote: Mine too.
Thanks for the piskology. It looks correct from the top to the bottom.shiv wrote:Some simple piskology.CRamS wrote: Coming from an IIT topper like you, this is pitiful analysis.
"Your argument hurt me where it hurts the most by telling the absolute truth in a way that everyone can see. It pushed the real buttons that make me squirm, so I will, in turn, pull out some aspect of your background that others might not know on a public forum and deride that to buttress my own pathetic arguments and make me feel much better."
-10 for that
That was a good one Sadhna. You did exactly what is expected of an IIT topper, whether you are one or not.
So let me get this straight ...CRamS wrote:DocJi,
We are going in circles. First, good analysis from you, although flawed in some respects.For e.g.
US is unwilling to fight TSP is not because of incompetence or cowardice or lack of capability (all of which apply to India) which you don't say in so many words, but seem to imply. If I am wrong to conclude this, my apologies. Assuming my conclusion is correct, thats where you loose the plot.
The fact that the US is unwilling to fight Pakistan is clear for everyone to see. The fact that the US is the sole remaining superpower is clear for everyone to see.
As I said many times, given US's lethal military machine, they can annhilate TSP in a heartbeat, and you know that. But US goes out of its way to protect TSP. Why? Not because of cowardice or incompetence or lack of capability, but superpower real-politick. Once again, I admit I may be wrong here because US does seem to be paying quite a heavy price for this pratice of this real-politick visa vi TSP. TSP has US blood on its hands. Usually, US professing of weakness is sophistry, used to justify a certain policy at a given instant in time. But not when a country has US blood on its hands.
This is where India comes in, and all the familiar arguments I and other have made that needs no repitition. Also, heaven knows how many moles US has inside TSP. So maybe through a combination of US covert control of TSP, its ability to influence India to make concessions to TSP (see MMS's surrender on 26/11, and please don't tell me that was not an abject surrender), and financial inducements, US still prefers the "benign" approach as opposed to daisy cutters.
But make no mistake, both TSP and US know where the final Lakshman Rekha is. And TSP RAPE are not that stupid to cross that. Even on the current brinkmanship, my gut feel is that TSP has already wired some gubo pleadings.
Mere toppers can't explain anything to you, you'll have to look elsewhere.CRamS wrote:sivab wrote: My bullshit meter hit full. Are you vying for nishan-e-pakistan? Grow up.I see. Humor aside, please explain to me MMS's surrender on 26/11.A_Gupta wrote: Mine too.
how long do you think news.com.pk/default would carry that news ?saip wrote:Wonder of wonders! Pakistan renting railway engines from India!
http://thenews.com.pk/Default.aspx
9/11 was carried out by Saudis and financed by Paki ISI, yet we all have seen the macho action Uncle Sam took against both of them ... India must learn from the US ... we should send Kasab back to Pak on Samjhauta express and also give TSP millitary aid worth a couple of hundred million dollars (after all we are poor SDRE country only and not superpower like US) ... I wonder if these actions will be counted as realpolitik or cowardly/incompetent/incapableA_Gupta wrote:PS: 9/11 was done by Saudis; the US helped them all reach home safely. As though MMS escorted Kasab to the border.CRamS wrote:
I see. Humor aside, please explain to me MMS's surrender on 26/11.
Apples and oranges. Saudi govt did not conduct 9/11. Besides, US asks Saudi govt to jump, and they will say how high. In contrast, Kesab was sponored by the state of TSP. And MMS resumes piss process with them, and TSP demands Kashmir. See the difference?A_Gupta wrote:
PS: 9/11 was done by Saudis; the US helped them all reach home safely. As though MMS escorted Kasab to the border.
Ahh ... which countries has the US "crossed oceans" to attack in order to protect its interests since WW2 ... lets see ...CRamS wrote:AnimeshP,
Give me a f$%^ing break. US has crossed oceans to protect its interests, and faces an enermy in TSP which blows hot and cold.
TSP crosses the border and enters India and slaughters Indians and dares India to a nuke showdown.
You don't see the difference?
One does not have to follow every hare-brained action of US. India's best policy, most honorable policy would have been, no talks, none, until TSP moves on 26/11 suspects. I mean think about it, India has tons of evidence on its side, and MMS frittered it away.Rahul M wrote:CRS, how about we attack sri lanka or thailand in retaliation for 26/11 ? will that be sufficiently TFTA in the amriki mould ?
( Uncle ka late gussa on Poaqussa)Documents obtained by Fox News suggest that for decades Pakistan spread nuclear weapon technology around the globe in exchange for cash, political influence and help with its own atomic bomb program. Among those on the other side of the deals: China, Iran, North Korea and Libya.The charges are contained in two documents written by A.Q. Khan, the Pakistani nuclear arms trafficker long thought to be the mastermind behind an elaborate global supply and procurement network: a thirteen-page confession to government authorities and a dramatic letter hastily written to his wife as an international manhunt tightened around him.
In a Fox News exclusive, never-before-seen Khan photographs and documents will be featured in an upcoming special: "Fox News Reporting: Iran's Nuclear Secrets," airing Saturday at 10 p.m. ET and Sunday at 1 a.m. ET. The documents include the thirteen-page confession, the letter to his wife, and a Pakistani intelligence service report on Khan. The exclusive photographs show the Khans in a variety of intimate settings, including under house arrest. Fox News is also releasing the documents and photographs over the Internet today.
The extent of official Pakistan government involvement with Khan is a matter of intense and at times acrimonious debate among counter-proliferation experts. Was Khan a master criminal operating outside the system—or was he part of the system?The documents obtained by Fox News are A.Q. Khan’s version of events. They should be carefully weighed against other available evidence. But with U.S.-Pakistan relations severely strained by the killing of Usama bin Laden and the imminent draw-down of U.S. troops in neighboring Afghanistan, the question of nuclear-armed Islamabad spreading weapons of mass destruction takes on a new urgency.