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"Intriguingly, 'Sudarshan Chakra' Corps will be aiming to build its capacities for "breaching the hostile army's defences and capturing important strategic assets deep inside enemy territory." The exercise is the third of its kind this year... The question is: why is India holding three massive war games in a year at the Pakistan border that aim at capturing important strategic assets deep inside the enemy territory?" it added
AdityaM wrote:Why is SM krishna getting loose motions if the Pak-US equation goes down the drain?
either he want Pak-US to be good frnds
or they are scared that if us looses leverage with Pak, the dogs of war will be unleashed on india (dogs of terror more like it)
I think I know what happened.
Last time SM Krishna met Agent Khar, Agent Khar lifted up a tiny corner of his wig and implanted one of these underneath:
It went in through the ear and lodged itself deep under the occipital lobe of the cerebrum.
Now SM Krishna thinks of the Pakistanis and the US as friendly countries. And he also thinks that Agent Khar is a woman.
Hmm. America has ordered AssPhuck Kiyani to GUBO okay.. not even GU, but just BO and AssPhack is now blustering about "America will think a 10 times" etc , Mohtarma Kiltain is warning of "serious consequences" and arriving with a "high power" team .
And just like the meek SDRE bania, SM Krisha is counseling 'Piss talks' between the Friends!! . Perfect. Pays to pay the Americans back in their own coin.. Whenever it threatened to get out of hand after any outrage by Paki land, they always counseled "restraint" and "talks" .. Now time for us to do the same thing and tut-tut sympathetically. Touche!
I think this Indian war games on TSP's eastern border and ISAF troop concentration on the western border at the same time are more than coincidence. Add to that soft statements from NATO chief and a very odd soft statement from SM Krishna. Why is India playing along with unkil's carrot & stick policy so openly? What do we gain in this bargain if tomorrow US succeeds in getting the cooperation of TSP back? It is in fact detrimental to Indian interests. What gets my goat is that MMS and Co fails to act in Indian interests when there are multiple terror attacks in India but they are willing to walk the extra mile and stick their neck out when it is for US's interest. May be I am reading too much into it but it does look very odd to me.
‘Doing business in Pakistan is 25% cheaper than India, Bangladesh'
Pakistani cow produced 1,000 litres of milk a year on average. “However, the average yearly milk production of a cow in the United States is 10,000 litres.”
He was asked a question in the presence of his French counterpart..
He gave a goodie goodie reply to it.
That Pakistan is a terrorist country and supports the Hackany terrorists is something he should have added but didnt...But then that is too much common sense to expect from him.
A seven-hour emergency was declared at a key nuclear power plant in Pakistani city of Karachi after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe of the reactor but no one was affected by radiation, officials said today.
The emergency was declared at Karachi Nuclear Power Plant (KANUPP) at midnight on Tuesday after the leak in the primary heat transport system of the plant at Hawke’s Bay was detected.
The emergency at the plant built in 1971 with the cooperation of Canada continued till 7 am on Wednesday, when the situation was brought under control, a media report said.
The Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission announced today that a "minor heavy water leakage" occurred during a "maintenance job" at KANUPP in the early hours of October 19.
abhijitm wrote:lots of pressure from US on pakis mean high probability of spectacular terror attack on India
No. Not this time. There is lot of IA,IAF strike formations very close to border and it can be turned westward at a moments notice. Pakistan knows any repeat of 26/11 and there will be a third partition on the 40th anniversary of second partition.
vina wrote:Pays to pay the Americans back in their own coin.. Whenever it threatened to get out of hand after any outrage by Paki land, they always counseled "restraint" and "talks" .. Now time for us to do the same thing and tut-tut sympathetically. Touche!
I'm simply loving it. I liked that 'heal the rift' advice. Nehru spoke of a "concerted attempt to build up Pakistan and build down India". For an India that faced open hostility, indifference, condescension from the US for six decades, to say what SMK said was very ironic.
ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday that efforts to stabilise Afghanistan would focus on getting the Taliban and the al Qaeda-linked Haqqani network to pursue peace, but warned stern action must be taken if they don't cooperate. "Now we have to turn our attention here on the Pakistani Taliban, Afghan Taliban, Haqqani and other terrorist groups and try to get them into a peace process," Clinton told a news conference during a visit to Pakistan, a nation seen as critical to U.S. efforts to end the conflict in Afghanistan.
"But if that failed, prevent them from committing more violence and murdering more innocent people," she said.
On Thursday, Clinton and top U.S. military and intelligence officials delivered a tough message to Pakistani leaders to crack down on militants, especially groups like the Haqqanis that are blamed for attacks on American targets in Afghanistan.
ISLAMABAD: Leader of the Opposition in the National Assembly Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan said on Thursday the government had not taken parliament into confidence on giving India the Most Favoured Nation (MFN) status.
"We have serious reservations on granting the MFN status to India and the government should bring the issue in parliament for debate but it seems that they are running everything in mafia style," he said while addressing a press conference here at the Punjab House. He was of the view that India had always cheated Pakistan and in this situation the rulers were taking decisions against the public opinion.
He said he would file a petition in the Supreme Court against the appointment of NAB chairman Admiral (retd) Fasih Bukhari.
Asked whether it was not conflicting that while he was opposing the MFN status to India, Mian Nawaz Sharif in his recent statement has expressed the desire to have good trade relations with India, he said Nawaz Sharif has always stated that India and Pakistan are two nuclear states and they cannot resolve their disputes through war. "But giving MFN status to India not only has political but also economic and regional implications. We have to make decisions not at the cost of Kashmir and national interests and we should evolve a consensus on such issues," he added.
While Ms. Clinton's stern talk is welcome, there is a jarring note as well. She says,
"In recent months, we've seen the Haqqani Network turn from being a fighting force to one that is deliberately targeting American targets like the US embassy in Kabul", she told CNN in an interview in Kabul Thursday.
"We cannot tolerate that," Clinton said. "And the safe haven in Pakistan from which they launch these attacks has nothing to do with the Taliban coming back into Afghanistan."
"It has nothing to do with Pakistan hedging against India or whatever the explanation is," she said according to a transcript of the interview released by the State Department.
Twice earlier Haqqani has targetted the Indian Embassy and the US has proof of this through communication intercepts etc. While I agree that the US is genuinely threatening Pakistan now, I doubt if the US will ever drop its blatant double standards vis-a-vis India. As I read it, the US will tolerate Pakistani efforts if they were genuinely to hedge against India. We all know what that means. Pakistanis are disliked by the Afghans including the Taliban. The commonfolk Afghans have no enmity with India and OTOH they have only pleasant memories. So, the only way Pakistan hedges against India is through violence inflicted on the Afghans and the Indians. To me, it appears that while revealing the US redlines to Pakistan, Ms. Clinton has (in)advertantly told them that they have no concern if Pakistan attacked India. I have no beef with that US approach because India will have to sort out Pakistan all by itself and it has failed to do the right thing so far.
KHAR, Pakistan (AP) — More than 30 militants armed with rockets and machine guns attacked a prominent pro-government tribal elder's house in northwestern Pakistan on Friday, killing three members of his family, a government official said.
The militants struck Malik Noor Mohammad's home in Minzare Cheena village in the Mohmand tribal area before dawn, said Jawed Khan, a local administrator. Two of Mohammad's sons and a daughter-in-law were killed in the attack, he said. Mohammad was at home but was not harmed.
LAHORE - Justice Sh Azmat Saeed of Lahore High Court on Thursday issued notices to law officers of the federal and provincial governments for assistance on a petition against use of words “My Lord” for addressing judges during court proceedings. LHC senior most judge Sh Azmat Saeed agreeing to the petitioner counsel’s arguments observed it is correct that calling judges “My Lord” in courts is fundamentally wrong and should be done away with because it is a reflection of slavish mindset and goes against basic teachings of Islam as well.
Dilbu, calling the judge as 'My Lord' is indeed blasphemous because it associates partners with The Lord. Under Section 295-c of the Pakistan Criminal Code, death is the only punishment. The Judges should also be punished similarly because they never objected to such an 'association' and acquiesced in the act all along.
ISLAMABAD (AP) – The Obama administration on Friday intensified pressure on Pakistan to do more to crack down Islamist militants destabilizing Afghanistan, as U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton delivered a tough public message that extremists have been able to operate in and from Pakistan for too long.
For the second time in two days, Clinton pressed Pakistani authorities to step up efforts against the Haqqani militant network, which is based in the country's rugged tribal region, and is blamed for attacks both inside Pakistan and neighboring Afghanistan. After leading an unusually large and powerful U.S. delegation, including CIA director David Petraeus and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey, for four hours of talks with Pakistani officials late Thursday, Clinton met Friday with Pakistan's president and foreign minister to make the case.
"We should be able to agree that for too long extremists have been able to operate here in Pakistan and from Pakistani soil," she said. "No one who targets innocent civilians, whether they be Pakistanis, Afghans, Americans or anyone else should be tolerated or protected."
The U.S. has grown increasingly impatient with Pakistan's refusal to take military action against the Taliban-linked Haqqani network and its ambivalence, if not hostility, to supporting Afghan attempts to reconcile Taliban fighters into society. Clinton made clear that that was no longer acceptable while American officials warned that if Pakistan continued to balk, the U.S. would act unilaterally to end the militant threat.
"Pakistan has a critical role to play in supporting Afghan reconciliation and ending the conflict," Clinton told reporters at a joint press conference with Pakistani Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar. "We look to Pakistan to take strong steps to deny Afghan insurgents safe havens and to encourage the Taliban to enter negotiations in good faith."
In the last few weeks, the situation in FATA is fast moving towards the pre-2008 status. Mangal Bagh in Peshawar, Mullah 'FM' Fazlullah in Swat et al are creeping out once again and the PA & FC are taking a lot of fatalities.
SSridhar wrote:Dilbu, calling the judge as 'My Lord' is indeed blasphemous because it associates partners with The Lord. Under Section 295-c of the Pakistan Criminal Code, death is the only punishment. The Judges should also be punished similarly because they never objected to such an 'association' and acquiesced in the act all along.
So the person who is calling and the one who is being called are both wahji-bull-cutlet. Great.
SSridhar wrote:Twice earlier Haqqani has targetted the Indian Embassy and the US has proof of this through communication intercepts etc. While I agree that the US is genuinely threatening Pakistan now, I doubt if the US will ever drop its blatant double standards vis-a-vis India. As I read it, the US will tolerate Pakistani efforts if they were genuinely to hedge against India. We all know what that means. Pakistanis are disliked by the Afghans including the Taliban. The commonfolk Afghans have no enmity with India and OTOH they have only pleasant memories. So, the only way Pakistan hedges against India is through violence inflicted on the Afghans and the Indians. To me, it appears that while revealing the US redlines to Pakistan, Ms. Clinton has (in)advertantly told them that they have no concern if Pakistan attacked India. I have no beef with that US approach because India will have to sort out Pakistan all by itself and it has failed to do the right thing so far.
Extremely, extremely well caught SS ji. That's why some times it pays to see how people react when under pressure. Like Plato said..you can learn about a person in one hour of play than in a year of leisurely diplobabbel.
..no country has as much influence on Pakistan’s future as India does. Whether setting the stage for a reduced role for the armed forces or reversing the radicalization of Pakistan’s population, the best road to reforms goes through a Pakistan that feels more secure and less threatened by India. This requires real concessions from India; Pakistan needs to chalk up a few real victories.
What can India do? For a start, Indian policy can be more empathetic towards Pakistan’s insecure view of the world.
For a start, India can desist playing any grand games in Afghanistan that go beyond what is specifically needed to reduce the risks of a Taliban-like regime in the country.
On the economic side, a big and bold proposal that was floated earlier this year was for Indian information technology firms to band together and commit to channeling a share of their outsourcing work to Pakistan.
But no issue is more important to Pakistan than that of Kashmir. India and Pakistan will be locked in a deadly embrace for a very long time unless the two countries find resolution on Kashmir.
Here, New Delhi will have to make serious concessions.
Sec. Clinton broke into laughter during a town hall meeting in Islamabad when an audience member compared the United States to a mother-in-law who is "just not satisfied" with Pakistan (AP). "We are trying to please you, and every time you come and visit us you have a new idea and tell us, 'You are not doing enough and need to work harder,'" the woman said.
Goes into lurking/sleep mode since there is no purification, implosion, explosion, destruction, dessication et al.
shiv wrote:
Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh and the Maldives did not specifically ask for Indian hegemony and India is not deliberately trying to exert hegemony over them. But Pakistan is asking for it and Indian hegemony needs to be exerted openly and in a manner that all Pakis understand. if they don't like it and want to die fighting, good. They need to be killed.
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..no country has as much influence on Pakistan’s future as India does. Whether setting the stage for a reduced role for the armed forces or reversing the radicalization of Pakistan’s population, the best road to reforms goes through a Pakistan that feels more secure and less threatened by India. This requires real concessions from India; Pakistan needs to chalk up a few real victories.
What can India do? For a start, Indian policy can be more empathetic towards Pakistan’s insecure view of the world.
For a start, India can desist playing any grand games in Afghanistan that go beyond what is specifically needed to reduce the risks of a Taliban-like regime in the country.
On the economic side, a big and bold proposal that was floated earlier this year was for Indian information technology firms to band together and commit to channeling a share of their outsourcing work to Pakistan.
But no issue is more important to Pakistan than that of Kashmir. India and Pakistan will be locked in a deadly embrace for a very long time unless the two countries find resolution on Kashmir.
Here, New Delhi will have to make serious concessions.
Rudradev wrote:It went in through the ear and lodged itself deep under the occipital lobe of the cerebrum.
Now SM Krishna thinks of the Pakistanis and the US as friendly countries. And he also thinks that Agent Khar is a woman.
Well you can't blame only SM Krishna, even our media has been influenced to cover Mr. Khar as if he was a woman! There is a deep konspiracy at work!
Mr. Khar has also been treated by some good Sex Reassignment Treatment Doctors in the world! Mr. Khar also uses some very powerful perfumes to cover up his manly smell! He however does have a problem - his addiction to Pindi Channa! For a moment, the mask comes off and Mr. Khar's deception targets can smell through the perfume! Mr. Khar's Achilles Heel!
Remarkably similar to what Krishna said, isn't it? What I think this means is that Hilary has renewed Amritraj's threat to stone Pak into the stone age, and GoI is privy to that.
SSridhar wrote:Dilbu, calling the judge as 'My Lord' is indeed blasphemous because it associates partners with The Lord. Under Section 295-c of the Pakistan Criminal Code, death is the only punishment. The Judges should also be punished similarly because they never objected to such an 'association' and acquiesced in the act all along.
Boss are you saying the Mirpuri Lord Nazir Ahmed is wajib ul kottlett for being called my lord?
Gautam
The Pakistani military has also refused to fall into the trap of launching a full-fledged operation in North Waziristan, which, it knows fully well, can only become a quagmire of such proportions that the military juggernaut itself might ultimately disintegrate. The Pakistani civil and military leaderships are today agreed that the only means to pacify the tribal areas is through networking with the tribal chieftains and the various militant groups and that is going to be a long haul. In the meanwhile, Pakistan is not going to be hustled by the US into precipitate actions.
Some commentators have rushed to interpret Kiani's statement on Tuesday as "nuclear blackmail". But the decision to deploy regular troops on the border suggests that the Pakistani military will resist and make the US pay an intolerably high price in casualties that Obama simply cannot afford as a badly-battered politician gearing up for a crucial election campaign.
Therefore, any false step in the shadow boxing and high-pitched rhetoric that has been going on between the US and Pakistan ever since the Raymond Davis affair in January (when the ISI and the military leadership came to know the full extent of the US' covert operations inside Pakistan) can easily lead to a full-fledged "asymmetrical war" in the region - with "disastrous consequences" for regional security and stability, as Krishna put it.
In 2001, there was a film called "Good Advice", with Charlie Sheen where he starts writing columns in a newspaper under the name of his ex-girlfriend, who ditched him and ran off to South America. I sometimes think, some Paki must be writing columns under the name MK Bhadrakumar as well. It is difficult to imagine that this guy represented India once!
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1. Pakistan has alleged but never offered any hint of evidence that India is involved in Afghanistan in nefarious ways. It is a nefarious argument used by Pakistan to divert attention from its own terrorist sponsorship of violence in Afghanistan.
2. Legitimate aspirations of Kashmiris in a secular India are their pure and simple democratic rights - which do not have any relevance for Pakistan's claims to Kashmir
3. India has offered a lot of concessions to Pakistan - which has offered nothing in return. Among other things is the MFN status offered by India to Pakistan which has not been reciprocated.
The author is erroneous is assuming that Pakistan is expecting any concessions from India as a quid pro quo for stopping support to terrorism (which in itself is blackmail).
The rationale for Pakistan's support to Islamic terrorism is the very rationale for its birth - to be an otherwise unaccommodating Islamic State. This needs to be understood very clearly.
to one that is deliberately targeting American targets like the US embassy in Kabul", she told CNN in an interview in Kabul Thursday.
Pranams.