Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 2011

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby shiv » 11 Dec 2011 06:45

Jhujar wrote:http://www.dawn.com/2011/12/10/the-call-of-nature.html
The call of nature ==
is common in both countries to see men standing or squatting against a wall or a tree. The amount of ammonia absorbed by the soil must make it some of the most fertile in the world. But women have a harder time. Many girls in Pakistan don`t go to school because there are no separate toilets for them. ( Do they have girl schools)So why can`t our governments address this issue after over six decades of independent rule? After all, this is not rocket science we are talking about. Most countries, many poorer than India and Pakistan, have provided their citizens with piped water and waste disposal systems.The answer, I suspect, is that our ruling classes


Pisko time!!

A nishaan-e-hyder to the guy who pointed out that Indians think Pakistan is a separate country, but Pakistanis think they are as separate vote bank in India. Note the refs to "our" and "our governments" from this shitistani.

But folks - it is the Pakistaniyat in us that makes us Indians refer to our politicians and government as "ruling casses". There is no separate ruling class in India. There definitely is, in Pakistan. But yet we act like shitistanis when we refer to our elected folks as "ruling class".

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby shiv » 11 Dec 2011 07:01

RCase wrote:Interesting read on why Pakistan behaves this way. I find it interesting that piskologically, most Pakis fit the following behavior pattern:

1. First response is to deny or lie.
2. Bluster, bravado, defiance and threats.
3. When confronted with stark reality, downhill ski and pretend HSR&D is maintained.

This can be applied to scenarios from the recent past like 1971, OBL incident, Veenaji and FHM, 24 jihadis on a remote mountain top embracing hellfires, economic figures, Zardari's hijrat to Dubai etc.

Doc ji - would appreciate your professional pisko analysis of the Paki mindset.


Absolutely perfect description. Nothing to be added. No professionalism needed to pisko Pakshits. This is exactly the route we need to make the whole goddam country follow - but we go one step further and keep up the pressure so they don't revert to bravado and bluster. You see the bravado and bluster from Pakis was given a cloak of Islam that allowed them to say and do what they like knowing that the world is full of idiots like Dubya who will instantly conclude that "if it is religion it can't be bad" That link needs to be smashed by showing exactly what part of Paki behavior (murder, kiling women and children, shias, raping and suppressing women) is embedded in Islam and what is not Islamic.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby JwalaMukhi » 11 Dec 2011 07:15

RajeshA wrote:Should we all grow long beards and finish off the Pakjabis then? :lol:

:rotfl: Rajeshji you already beat me to it. But was going to say one word "KHALSA".

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby partha » 11 Dec 2011 07:23

shiv wrote:
Pisko time!!

A nishaan-e-hyder to the guy who pointed out that Indians think Pakistan is a separate country, but Pakistanis think they are as separate vote bank in India. Note the refs to "our" and "our governments" from this shitistani.

But folks - it is the Pakistaniyat in us that makes us Indians refer to our politicians and government as "ruling casses". There is no separate ruling class in India. There definitely is, in Pakistan. But yet we act like shitistanis when we refer to our elected folks as "ruling class".

I have observed that these so called Pakistani liberals are insecure about their Pakistani identity because of which they leave no opportunity to hide behind the South Asian burqa. They have enough hate towards India to not hide behind the Indian sub-continent burqa. South Asian is fine.

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Postby JwalaMukhi » 11 Dec 2011 07:25

SA - could be conveniently invoked to be either South Asia or when in purer moments to be as Saudi Arapia.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby ramana » 11 Dec 2011 07:49

SSridhar wrote:vishvak, the houbara bustards are critically endangered species and yet the hunting goes on year after year in Sind & Balochistan. What does it show ? It shows that the much hyped about sovereignty is lost to the Princes and Princelings of the desert Kingdoms. One doubts if Pakistan has the will to muster courage to ask these royalty to return the ceded territories and stop hunting. FATA is already lost to the 'Islamic Emirate' and NWFP was almost lost by 2008 before partially retrieved. China has taken over GB and creeping into the rest of PoK. Punjab is lost to the Punjabi Taliban. The National Capital Region of Islamabad is lost to the Laal Masjid thugs. Karachi is lost to Muhajirs and the Pashtun. Balochistan has been on the boil since 1948. Quetta, for long, has been under Afghan Pashtun control. Naval bases, air bases, military-industrial complexes, and nuclear weapon sites have all come under attack and have been barely defended. So, where does the writ of the state run except within the perimeter of the GHQ ? Even that was attempted to be taken over in 2009.



Can the more artistic try to map all these encroachments? SS is right TSP is now a rump state like Mughalia sultanate.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby menon s » 11 Dec 2011 08:38

Meanwhile, the ‘memo tension’ reached its peak on Sunday last. And it was Sunday at 8pm when President Zardari held a 45-minute telephonic talk with American Ambassador Cameron Munter in a state of severe anger, as reported by sources privy to the developments.

Soon after that, President Zardari received a call from President Obama that continued for about 25 minutes. Sources said the president was visibly upset during this conversation, and that’s why American Foreign Policy magazine, quoting US president’s office sources, reported that the President Zardari’s talk lacked coherence. No denial had come so far in this regard from the Obama administration.

Sources said these telephonic talks result in a health condition of the president. Beads of perspiration stood out on his forehead; he felt giddy and fell on the ground, according to the sources. Doctors were called in, who found out that the president’s blood pressure had dipped very low. More doctors were called out, the president was administered medicines, and he started feeling well.


Seems like OMbaba is good at administering GUBO! Wonder what blackmailing would have made Zardari suffer a hart attack!


President Asif Ali Zardari is telling his friends and acquaintances that he and his government are the target of the United States.
Sohail Warraich, senior journalist and Geo anchorperson, said on Saturday in the Meray Mutabiq show that the president recently spoke to him and disclosed that he and his government are not threatened by anyone inside Pakistan but by Washington.
According to another source, who also claimed to have recently talked to the president, Zardari is of the view that Washington has aligned with Nawaz Sharif against the Zardari-led PPP and the Pakistani establishment — the Pakistan Army and the ISI.


i think its nothing but "Taqiyya" or dissimulation. by Zardari.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby vic » 11 Dec 2011 08:46

My version:- After memo gate leak, Kayani went to meet 10 percenti and slapped him around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Ambar » 11 Dec 2011 08:49

SSridhar wrote: It shows that the much hyped about sovereignty is lost to the Princes and Princelings of the desert Kingdoms. One doubts if Pakistan has the will to muster courage to ask these royalty to return the ceded territories and stop hunting... ...


It is a known fact that KSA keeps the wahhabi-jihadi cauldron boiling through funding and were forefront in giving legitimacy to the brutal taliban regime , but we never talk much about UAE and its role in the region. Lest we forget UAE is where dirty money of mullahs,mafia,politicians and businessmen gets washed and rerouted into India, some of these guys including guthka baron and Dawood Ibrahim have deep connections with the royals. Question really is how much does UAE support jihadis / AQ in the region ? I'm curious because in 1998 when the CIA spec-ops had narrowed on OBL near Kandhahar, they spotted a C-130 in the airbase, the tail # was beamed back to states and was confirmed that it belonged to a UAE prince, the mission was then aborted as US did not want a political showdown with UAE by blowing its royals with obl. In less than a year the same airbase was used as a theater for the climax of IC814 drama, with Dubai being mid-stage.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Prem » 11 Dec 2011 09:05

Tor Diya Jalim, tunne Paki Dream torr diya
US troops may stay in Afghanistan past 2014
KABUL: The United States and Afghanistan are in talks about drawing up an agreement that would govern many aspects of the US-Afghan relationship after the end of 2014."I'm feeling pretty good about where we are sitting in terms of being able to conclude a strategic partnership," US Ambassador to Kabul Ryan Crocker said. "Some aspects of that will be security. It will not set troop levels," he said, adding that no date had been fixed for the expected finalisation of the agreement.Beyond the end of 2014, there may well be scope for an ongoing military presence, as the Afghan army will need training and technical assistance."There is nothing in the Lisbon declaration on 2014 that precludes an international military presence beyond 2014," Crocker said. "That is to be determined by the parties ... as we get closer to that date. We've said it's going to be an Afghan request, they would need to ask for it, but I can certainly see us saying 'yes, it makes sense'," he said.American plans to withdraw many of its near-100,000 Afghan-based troops by next September, bringing numbers down to 68,000

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Prem » 11 Dec 2011 09:10

The nudity matter
Poakerstan mmei sarre nange hai

The trouble with us Pakistanis is that we have too much hatred in our hearts and too little imagination in our heads to fully appreciate people for their confidence and perseverance alone, if nothing else.Look at the poor president for instance. He takes all sorts of pressure from all sides for too long, falls ill eventually, goes for a check-up abroad, and all hell breaks loose.I mean what does a president need to do to fall ill in peace around here?And speaking of Zardari
Question: What is common between Veena Malik and president Zardari?
Answer: Both of them have the maximum number of enemies in Pakistan, and both of them don’t give a flying UFO to that.
And then there is more.Both of them are ambitious, both take calculated risks, both are shrewd enough to know what they are getting themselves into, and both bask in the glory of the aftermath these risks generate.

Question: What is common between Veena Malik and an average Pakistani?
Answer: Both of them need attention, and now!!
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby GopiD » 11 Dec 2011 09:26



An enlightening post and I think that post should go to the first page of TSP thread...

What I could glean from the post is,

1. INC and it's previous heads have been playing the hind-muslim division card for pretty long time,

2. The pakis are practically living in a self-created illusionary bubble of khilaphate and sole proteges of the Mughal empire theory.

My 2 paise...

1. The bubble is going to explode sooner than later. But it's going to be very tough to crack the bubble and India will be the spear to burst it open.

2. Cracking the paki bubble would most probably trigger the next world war, without which the pakis and their supporting WKKs world over can't be cured en masse of their mental illness, something like shock treatment. It has been engrained too deep into the paki psyche and it would require an extermination drive, like the allies did to Nazis and the japanese. Sure it won't be called world war, but it would definitely involve the clown jewels. It most probably would involve seizure of the jewels or mushroom clouds over a few of our cities. But that would be the price we would have to pay for all the WKKism we and our ancestors have followed and the failure to protect our culture and our own people falling prey to the "aggressive islamism" centuries ago.

3. And we (India) need some more time and a few more jhapads to realize the above and that realization would most probably arise our of a mushroom cloud over either delhi or mumbai, no less.

WE CAN RUN and buy some time and have some more toys like mmrca, arihants, agnis, prithvis lca's gorshkovs etc, but WE CAN'T HIDE from the coming storm.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby arun » 11 Dec 2011 09:31

menon s wrote:
President Asif Ali Zardari is telling his friends and acquaintances that he and his government are the target of the United States.
Sohail Warraich, senior journalist and Geo anchorperson, said on Saturday in the Meray Mutabiq show that the president recently spoke to him and disclosed that he and his government are not threatened by anyone inside Pakistan but by Washington.
According to another source, who also claimed to have recently talked to the president, Zardari is of the view that Washington has aligned with Nawaz Sharif against the Zardari-led PPP and the Pakistani establishment — the Pakistan Army and the ISI.


i think its nothing but "Taqiyya" or dissimulation. by Zardari.


:wink: ............. Former Dictator of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Gen. Zia Ul Haq to former US President Ronald Reagan according to former US Secretary of State George Pratt Schultz:

“Muslims have the right to lie in a good cause”

Turmoil and Triumph : My Years As Secretary of state

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby devesh » 11 Dec 2011 09:54

ramana garu,
within 10-20 year time frame the rump state has to be broken. otherwise, the myth will stand that Pak "ruled" for so "long". just like what happened with Mughals. the myth remained that they ruled for 350 years, when in fact, their power was waning within 200 years and for all intents and purposes they became puppets soon after.

if Pak is allowed to linger, then the same nonsense will become "reality" again. at an opportune time, break it up, and destroy any linkages between the constituent territories. specifically, the familial networks which form the political alliances between the different provinces.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby jrjrao » 11 Dec 2011 10:24


Sorry for responding to my own trumpet, but this story on MSNBC now has a new photo attached, with this caption:
Pakistani security personnel examine a crashed US surveillance drone inside Pakistan in August.

And the photo under this caption is this:

Image

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby shiv » 11 Dec 2011 10:53

jrjrao wrote:And the photo under this caption is this:

Image


Omigod - I think it is still alive - see the man still has his gun pointed at it. :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby jrjrao » 11 Dec 2011 11:15

And yes, I hope it was not missed for all to detect that laser-guided, radar-malished very mean HELLFIRE missile under that starport wing --- for it is as big and thick as an eraser-laden pencil onlee!!!

Narraaaa-e-Takbeeer, Pakistaaan kyaa mutlub kyaaaa, AAAOOOAAAA, AAAOOOOAAAA....... :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 Dec 2011 11:46

This drone is very SDRE looking. Are the TFTA Americans also acquiring Indian characteristics now that they are moving away from TFTA mard to SDRE Hindus ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Anujan » 11 Dec 2011 11:54



US Should issue a tit for tat response that any Pakistani flying in US airspace will be shot.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby RajeshA » 11 Dec 2011 12:28

Jhujar ji,

aapne Prem se nata kyon torh diya! :((

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby shiv » 11 Dec 2011 12:58

SSridhar wrote:This drone is very SDRE looking. Are the TFTA Americans also acquiring Indian characteristics now that they are moving away from TFTA mard to SDRE Hindus ?


No. Compared with Pakis - everything looks SDRE

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby arun » 11 Dec 2011 14:31

X Posted from the Islamism thread.

Green on Green violence in the self -named Land of the Pure otherwise known as Islamic Republic of Pakistan. In the Khyber Agency of that country, the more pure Mohammaddens attack shrines of presumably less pure Mohammaddens by dynamiting one shrine and setting fire to another.

Will this incident bring out the Islamic Rage boys onto the streets? I somehow think that is not very likely:

Extremists pull down two shrines in Khyber

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 Dec 2011 16:13

A City on the Edge- Karachi by Ms. Meena Menon, The Hindu
On the flight back, my co-passenger who moved to Karachi after marriage, was filling out endless forms. “I don't wear gold when I go out and I cover my hair. I am so relieved to go to Mumbai,” she says.
Co-education schools are under attack in the city, like Sufi or Sunni mosques and terror surfaces in new unexpected ways. At the University of Karachi, with 70 per cent women students, bright posters advertise: “Let's rock the party.” Opposite there is a flowery printed message from the moral police, the Islami Jamiat Talibat (Girls wing). “You live in the East but your hearts are in the West.”
Outside the Karachi Press Club a not so liberal graffiti says, “ We are proud of Mumtaz Qadri (who shot Sindh governor Salman Taseer). We don't like cowards.
“Women drive cars here,” people say proudly :)
For a country where liquor is supposed to be restricted, Scotch flows freely (thankfully) in elite drawing rooms, complete with “bearers”. If you are well-heeled, life can be tolerable in this city.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Philip » 11 Dec 2011 16:58

Yep,most well-heeled , VIP,IP (important persons) residences have "basement bars".One gent I know on a trip there was entertained by the chief of police at his best pals house,in his lavish underground bar with shelves groaning with Scotch et al.He also claimed he was seduced by an IP's wife! Not that we are much better at booze hypocrisy,with Gujarat,Gandhi's home state a "wet dream"!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Narad » 11 Dec 2011 18:29

SSridhar wrote:A City on the Edge- Karachi by Ms. Meena Menon, The Hindu

Outside the Karachi Press Club a not so liberal graffiti says, “ We are proud of Mumtaz Qadri (who shot Sindh governor Salman Taseer). We don't like cowards.”


What a ****** retard this meena menon !! :x

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby SSridhar » 11 Dec 2011 18:40

Taliban Commander Confirms Peace Talks
The Pakistani Taliban is in peace talks with the Pakistani government, a senior commander in the militant group said on Saturday. He said negotiations were “progressing well” and could soon end in a formal agreement.

The statement by Maulvi Faqir Mohammad is the first time a named Taliban commander has confirmed that the group is negotiating with the Pakistani government.

But it is unclear whether he speaks for entirety of the loose-knit network, which is believed to have splintered into different factions over the last year.

Mohammad, who is recognised by many in both Pakistan's militant movements and its government as the deputy chief of the Pakistani Taliban, said his men had held “peace talks with relevant government officials”.

“They are progressing well, and we may soon sign a formal peace agreement with the government,” he said in a telephone conversation.

Asked about the alleged negotiations, Pakistani Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said his government followed a policy of “dialogue, deterrence and development” to tackle militancy. “That is a continuing process,” he told a local television station, giving no more details.

Pak Taliban Spokesman Denies Peace Talks
A Pakistani Taliban spokesman on Sunday denied an earlier announcement by the militant group's deputy chief that it was holding peace talks with the government.

The conflicting claims are a clear sign of splits within the movement, which could make it even harder to end the violent insurgency gripping the country.

Spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan denied the claims, saying there would be no negotiations until the government imposed Islamic law, or Shariah, in the country. He has previously denied reports of peace talks by unnamed commanders and intelligence officials.

"Talks by a handful of people with the government cannot be deemed as the Taliban talking," Ehsan said on telephone from an undisclosed location.

But another commander, Mullah Dadullah, also now claims to be Taliban chief in Bajur. Dadullah contacted the AP on Sunday and denied the group, also known as the Tehrik-e-Taliban, or TTP, was negotiating with the government.

"As TTP chief responsible for Bajur, I am categorically saying there are no talks going on between the government and the Tehrik-e-Taliban at the Bajur level or the central level," Dadullah said, also speaking from an undisclosed location.

Ehsan, the spokesman, said Dadullah rather than Mohammed was the head of the Pakistani Taliban in Bajur.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby harbans » 11 Dec 2011 19:21

Just saw that pic of burning tankers in the Baki thread. By burning the oil and tankers wouldn't the road be damaged? These tankers would also belong to some pvt transport Paki company. IF the Amercians say they don't pay for the oil till it reaches them, then Paki's really are burning their own assets, trucks and roads really.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby svinayak » 11 Dec 2011 19:27

Anujan wrote:


US Should issue a tit for tat response that any Pakistani flying in US airspace will be shot.

Also any Pakistan soldier inside Afganistan who attacks Afganistan will be shot dead. All the border around Pakistan including LOC and India border will follow this order

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby saip » 11 Dec 2011 19:54

harbans wrote:Just saw that pic of burning tankers in the Baki thread. By burning the oil and tankers wouldn't the road be damaged? These tankers would also belong to some pvt transport Paki company. IF the Amercians say they don't pay for the oil till it reaches them, then Paki's really are burning their own assets, trucks and roads really.


Why are you surprised? Pakis are known to threaten the world with a gun to their own head. Now they will claim their infrastructure is damaged and so the rest of the world should pay them.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby harbans » 11 Dec 2011 20:17

Sai Ji, not surprised. Till now though i used to think the Americans have paid up for the oil. But after the American statement looks some Paki consortium imports and holds the oil too till delivery point. So basically Paki's are burning their own oil, trucks, roads and destroying their own environment. Just making note of that. Old cliched wisdom: Hatred is self consuming. Paki's are outstanding in that department.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby RamaY » 11 Dec 2011 20:20

harbans wrote:Just saw that pic of burning tankers in the Baki thread. By burning the oil and tankers wouldn't the road be damaged? These tankers would also belong to some pvt transport Paki company. IF the Amercians say they don't pay for the oil till it reaches them, then Paki's really are burning their own assets, trucks and roads really.


Shhh... Don't say it loud

I was wondering if these tankers are looted before they were burned. Does US send military h/w in this route?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby shiv » 11 Dec 2011 20:36

Narad wrote:
What a ****** retard this meena menon !! :x


I found some pisko in the article. We read too many articles about Karachi from the viewpoint of people who are grateful that Karachi has women drivers and nightclubs as evidence of its normality. In that sense this is a run of the mill article although I must give it to Meena Menon that she is only 50% gushing about Kraachi rather than the usual 75 to 100%

What we never get to hear about is how the 80% of Kraachi residents feel. DMany probably live there because they have no other go. They have some sustenance there. What about the killers and looters. Why is there no government? Or is Kraachi like a concentrated Somalia? A Beirut without the heavy artillery. The army, it appears does not control Karachi. Is Karachi under any government at all?

Who does any census? How do they come up with population figures? How much tax does kraachi pay? There must be plenty of smuggling of people and goods in and out of the port? Who will say who and what?

If Karach really has 18 milion peope it has 10% opf Pakhanaland's population and ranks 60th (ahead of Chile) and just behind Sri Lanka in a list of countries of the world by population (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... population)

is Karachi part of Pakistan?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby brihaspati » 11 Dec 2011 20:38

Denial by Taliban commanders/hierarchy against others of their own - follow a certain pattern. For the paki-Taleb ballroom dances, both declarations of "peace" as well as "denial" soon after are part of the same stage managed show which Pakis, Talebs, ISI and perhaps their real controllers sitting within the Anglo-Saxon power centres put up for the benefit of the world - and especially for all other parties willingly or unwillingly involved with the subcontinent.

The earlier declaration about "peace" was to give a sense of easing of tensions and a shrewd cynical use of the well-known tactic of raising hopes. This is used to relax the vigil. For Paki-Taleb dances, inevitably the talebs follow up with a denial connected to explicitly Islamist demands and pre-conditions. Thats a signal by the Paki and Anglo-Saxon-"Islamists" (or Islamophiles) that what is really being sought to be established - is that "peace" can onlee be bought by surrendering to more of Islamism. This is a careful long term desensitization programme intended to get the peace==agree to Islamist demands, become acceptable.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby harbans » 11 Dec 2011 21:01

I don't think there are night clubs and like in Kraachi. Paki's can't booze in Gutterstan. The only Pubs open in the Islamic republic are in 5 star hotel for foreign clients. Clifton elites obviously have basement pubs and can drink. Paki's also know Indian journo's like their booze. They make it available and our Aiyers come back and gush how similar we both are. 99.9% of Paki's can't drink. I'm just so happy to be in India and enjoy some of the finest nightclubs and watering spots in Gurgaon/ Delhi...meanwhile Gutterstan is getting ready slowly for purer Islam.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby asgkhan » 11 Dec 2011 22:21

Here is a Paki R.A.P.E class inbred abdul spreading his BS on how safe na-pakistan on REDDIT.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/n ... tan_after/

Look at how casually he brushes aside the image of terror/murder/religious intolerance. He tries to talk about KFC, pizza hut and other familiar western related landmarks to show Pakistan in positive light.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 11 Dec 2011 22:38

Karachi: Pakistan's capital of violence

National Public Radio host Steve Inskeep has sought to narrate the story through the periscope of a particular event - the horrific bombing of a Shia procession on the occasion of Ashura on December 28, 2009. Not only was the procession, which marks the tenth day of Muharram, bombed, but the Jinnah hospital, to which many of the casualties were taken, was also targeted by a bomb placed in a computer monitor that did not go off.

The writer somewhat whimsically follows various threads of his own story and seeks to give a portrait of what he calls the Instant City, which grew from 350,000 in 1941 to a metropolis of 13 million. Incidentally, Delhi, which had a population of 900,000 in 1941, has more than 20 million inhabitants, if you take into account the NCR towns of Noida and Gurgaon, Ghaziabad and Faridabad. But India's capital city, which, too, grew in great measure because of refugees from Pakistan, does not have the kind of ethnic tension that Karachi has developed.

The reasons for the violence in the city are a secular turf battle between its principal ethnic groups - the Mohajirs, or refugees from India, who form the majority of the city; the Pakhtuns, who arrived there in large numbers following the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan; and the Sindhis, who are the original natives the city.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 11 Dec 2011 22:42

Pakistan’s strategic dependence

Let me make a prediction: Pakistan-US relations will soon return to what passes for normal and any major scaling back of ties will remain at the sole discretion of the US. Pakistan simply remains too profoundly and strategically dependent on the US for any other outcome.

Since its inception, Pakistan has defined its security pre-eminently in military terms and pursued an increasingly untenable military balance with India. The strategic arithmetic of this position is as clear today as it was to Pakistani leaders in 1947: an abiding foreign policy of military confrontation with a foe possessing overwhelming strategic superiority can only be sustained with a powerful, external patron who is militarily, diplomatically and economically underwriting Pakistan’s position.


But the civilian-military entente on India has fragmented since the late 1980s. Most political leaders worth their salt understand that Pakistani peace and prosperity, the legitimacy of civilian rule and the key to keeping the military confined to the barracks, are all tied to a settlement with India. Disposable civilian governments, military adventures like the Kargil fiasco, and even the recent choreographed furore over Most Favoured Nation (MFN) trade status for India are all signposts of military pushback against a potential settlement.

Even now, the military establishment’s real fear is not continuing a servile relationship with the US, but the approaching reality of a return to the 1990s, when Pakistan faded into insignificance for US foreign policy. This fear is now mingled with terror at the prospect of the US forging an alliance with India instead, something a break in relations could hasten.


Despite misinformed assertions to the contrary, China possesses neither the political will, nor the economic clout or military muscle to replace US largesse. With an eye on Uighur unrest, China is also increasingly sceptical of Pakistan’s proxy jihadists, a dangerously infectious disease cultivated in Pakistan’s anti-India military laboratory. More obviously, it makes little sense to swap dependency on the US for China.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 11 Dec 2011 22:44

US-Pak tensions: Delhi's Strange Passivity

For the first time since the Partition of the Subcontinent, India's relations with Pakistan and the United States appear in a better shape than those between Islamabad and Washington. But the UPA government, which appears to have lost its way at home, seems incapable of exploiting a rare strategic opportunity that has presented itself.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Brad Goodman » 11 Dec 2011 22:49

OTIF membership, Pakistan to expand rail links to Europe, ME

ISLAMABAD: As part of its endeavour to expand rail network to Europe, Central Asia and Middle East, Pakistan is set to become member of Inter-governmental Organization for International Carriage by Rail (OTIF) soon, said Minister for Railways Haji Ghulam Ahmed Bilour on Sunday.

Talking to media, he said that OTIF membership would help Pakistan to have contracts of carriage for the international carriage of passengers and goods, dangerous goods{read terrorists and clown jewels} :twisted: , use of vehicles, use of railway infrastructure and validation of technical standards and adoption of uniform technical prescriptions for railway material. Federal cabinet has already given its consent to the membership, the minister added.


Biolur said there is no bottleneck in getting the OTIF membership rather things were going smooth. He said now the railways ministry would move a summary to the Prime Minister for final approval and once the process is finalized, Pakistan would be in the position to expand its international rail operations to the other regions.


SOB's dont have locomotives and carriages for its own people and now want to service the ummah & kafirs

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 06 Dec 201

Postby Upendra » 11 Dec 2011 22:50

Blast from the past; Cash for nukes attempt that failed

ISLAMABAD: General (r) Ziauddin Khawaja, former DG ISI, has disclosed for the first time that North Korea had attempted to bribe him by providing him 0.5 million US dollars in Benazir Bhutto’s last tenure as prime minister, in 1995.

“They wanted an expedited cooperation between the two countries on the missile programme, which was going on between the two countries in that era,” said General (r) Ziauddin while exclusively talking to Dawn at his Lahore residence.

Khawaja, was heading the Directorate of Combat Development, currently known as Strategic Plans Division (SPD). He was directly involved in Pakistan’s defense agreements with North Korea.

The retired general while answering a question said that, a bag full of dollars was actually dropped in his office by a North Korean General Kang who at that time was serving as Defence and Commercial Attache in the North Korean Embassy located in Islamabad.

Khawaja asked General Kang why he was giving him such a large amount of cash. The North Korean General told him that his government is distributing money among the relevant officers dealing in defence cooperation with his country.

General Khawaja said that he immediately informed the then Chief of General Staff (CGS) General Jahangir Karamat who spoke to the then Chief of Army Staff General Abdul Waheed Kakar who was on a foreign trip at the time.

Khawaja added that General Waheed consulted with Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and ordered him to return the money after two or three days.

“General Kang was called at the Headquarters of the Military Intelligence, General Headquarters in Rawalpindi, where the money was returned to him by the then MI Chief, Major General Ali Kuli Khan in my presence,” said Khawaja.

Ziauddin Khawaja is living a retired life in Lahore these days. He was nominated Chief of Army Staff by the former prime minister Mian Nawaz Sharif, on 12th October 1999 soon after the removal of General Pervez Musharraf but the orders of the prime minister could not see the light of day as the military launched a coup.


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