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Rumourgate’ not worth a response: Babar Awan

is he mailing something and saying something else ???

Aides have so far been unable to say when he will return home, after one member of the cabinet initially said he would go back to Islamabad on Thursday.

"It depends on the doctors, when he will be discharged. They will tell after receiving results of some more tests," Babar added.

Aditya_V wrote:

SSridhar wrote:Such mail & phone calls are common in Pakistan. Even their President is threatened by such calls originating from condemned prisoners. Nothing surprising in this Babar Awan e-mail.

May I add the condemned Prisioner's death sentence was passed way back in 2002 but is still getting his share of briyani and procreation activities. His past actions in terror notwithstanding.

QUETTA: At least three Pakistani fishermen were gunned down, while two others were injured, by Iranian security forces when they wandered into Iranian territorial waters in the Pasaband area, about 40 kilometres off the Jewani coast in Pakistan.

The fishermen, who belonged to Sindh, had entered into Balochistan from Karachi, police officials said.

District Police Officer Gwadar Liaquat Baloch confirmed the incident and said the bodies are yet to be handed over to Pakistani officials.

“The trawler, Al-Mariam, entered into Iran’s territorial waters when Iranian security forces opened fire on them, killing three crew members on the spot, while injuring another two,” he added.

Station Officer of Jewani Imam Baksh said that there were 20 to 25 people onboard Al-Mariam, which was engaged in illegal fishing.

“Three people were killed, while two sustained injuries. The deceased, injured and those who have been caught alive are in the custody of Iranian security forces,” he told The Express Tribune.

Baksh added that there were two trawlers. “One of them escaped when Iranian forces opened fire, while they captured the second one.”

The injured have been admitted to a hospital in Chabahar, Iran. Identities of the fishermen hailing from Sindh could not be determined.

A senior police official in Jewani said Iran had tightened security across the border with Pakistan during Muharram.

“The trawlers often enter Iranian territorial waters, but these days, Iranian officials are strictly dealing with those who enter Iran without valid travelling documents,” he said.

The police have tried, in vain, to establish contacts with Iranian officials for handing over the bodies and those injured.

SSridhar wrote:In fact, this Krasner guy is offering Pakistan the lifeline it needs. I don't know why Moeed must be unhappy. Krasner can understand why Pakistan needs jihadis to 'defend' itself against India. Let him 'understand' anything but this 'defence' is total cr@p. Pakistan has been using jihadis to attack, aggress and grab India, not defend. It has gone even beyond that to subvert India from within. Krasner should know all that if he had been following Pakistan (obviously he is otherwise he would not have written this article) and yet he peddles a lie. Krasner is even suggesting to curtail normal India-Afghanistan state-to-state relations to satisfy imaginary Pakistani fears. Let us look at the increased economic and reduced military assistance under Obama that he peddles. If total aid increased by 48% and economic aid increased from 25 to 45 %, does it translate into less military aid ? No. That means that military aid actually increased from 75% to 81.4 %.

The American intention is crystal clear. They are *still* willing to sacrifice normal Indian interests to make Pakistan behave better towards them. They have never minded that their policies have endangered India, and Afghanistan too in the past, tremendously. This is how the US would behave in the future too vis-a-vis India.

Satya_anveshi wrote:What happens to analysis if this premise is flawed? Nothing that US is doing is fundamentally related to 911.

SSridhar wrote:I was just listening to Karzai blaming LeJ for the bombings in Kabul & Mazar-e-Sharif and vowing to take revenge. He also mentioned they were responsible for the Mumbai attack. Did he confuse with LeT or was he referring to the ISI ?

Theo_Fidel wrote:That is the impression one gets at the local level. It is this support that give the POTUS freedom to fund a known killer of American troops. They die there so we don't have to die here.

The DGMO further said the attack was pre-planned and was aimed to strengthen the Taliban because the two check posts attacked were built to curb militants’ infiltration and had been serving the purpose effectively.

Anujan wrote:Here is a ironic Lulz.

Apparently Mansoor Ijaz is an Ahmedi.

According to official sources, as many as 119 oil tankers and 111 containers carrying fuel and military hardware for Nato forces are parked in different terminals of Quetta for the past 13 days since Pakistan suspended the supply.

johneeG wrote:I think Army is not the only problem in pak. The root of the mess is corrupt and selfish elites. And a poisonous ideology.

Replacing a few individuals with others or replacing one Org.(like army) with another org. seems like a temporary fix and is unlikely to solve anything.

Narad wrote:Can you post a link? All I can gather is onlee 20 gutted so far.

Narad wrote:

Anujan wrote:40 NATO tankers in Quetta have been given their 72. So it starts.

Can you post a link? All I can gather is onlee 20 gutted so far.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/303666/42-parked-nato-tankers-containers-attacked-in-quetta/

Was it intended as a provocation? Is Barack Obama seriously thinking of unleashing a civil war in an already battered country? Some commentators in Islamabad are arguing this but it's unlikely that Nato troops will occupy Pakistan. The death of soldiers stirred the mind of the nation to new activity. "Save us from our friends" is a growing sentiment even within the ruling elite.The overall effect has been a growth of dissent within the military and the uncovering of related scandals. It was one of these, described as "memogate", that may have led a frightened President Zardari to flee the country to Dubai, supposedly for health reasons. Though why Pakistani doctors in the country are considered inferior to their kin in the Gulf is a question posed by many in the country. Army doctors who, according to some reports, did examine him said he was "fine". A US government official is reported to have said that Zardari was "incoherent" when he spoke with Obama last weekend. His own official admitted he was unfocused. This too is nothing new.Exhausted by war and the resultant suicide terrorism within its borders, in the opinion of many bled white economically by Zardari, his cronies and the bubble class that lives in its own world – Pakistan is in a terrible mess, worse than at any time in its recent history. Zardari's status as a widower of the slain Benazir Bhutto propelled him to the presidency. His main function appears to have been to carry out US instructions and make a lot more money. With the amounts he has accumulated over the years he should not be unduly despondent, unless the pending corruption case in Switzerland is re-opened.
There is little doubt that the army want him out. Will they replace him with the prime minister, Yousuf Gilani, as the frontman until the February 2013 elections? Or order a behind-the-scenes dissolution of the existing assembly and install an emergency national government for a year?

Satya_anveshi wrote:All those conditions that facilitated 911 (assuming we believe alquaida/taliban did it) exist with same and/or increased strength now. islamic parties seem to have gained strength across host of other nations. So, how do we reconcile US exit in these conditions, US sops to Pakarmy/ISI, back stabbing civilian government with "preventing another 911 being US's sole objective"?

The lovable red monster is about to hit TV screens here in a locally produced version of one of America's most potent exports - Sesame Street. There are local productions in 20 countries, from China to Palestine.The Pakistani programme, Sim Sim Hamara, has not come cheap.The United States Agency for International Development, USAID, has committed $10m (7.4m euros, £6.3m) to the four-year project. The final figure could be twice that. It is a major investment in a troubled nation, where the only education on offer for some is in radical madrassas.The US government is hoping that as well as providing basic literacy and numeracy skills, the programme will teach lessons in tolerance, and mutual respect.On set in Lahore, the producers, the Rafi Peer Theatre Workshop, insisted that while Washington funded the series, it did not write the script.
Pig-tailed puppet
The finance came with no strings attached, according to Faizan Peerzada, the theatre group's chief executive officer."I think I really respect the American taxpayer that at this critical time they have invested this money for the children of Pakistan, and without any prerequisites," he said.
RANI THE PUPPET
Rani is a six-year-old on a quest for knowledge, with a magnifying glass at the ready.
This farmer's daughter with flowers in her hair has a love of nature and a garden of her own. She is sporty, and fond of Pakistani traditional music but her defining characteristic is her hungry mind.She has an endless supply of questions, according to Yamina Peerzada, the puppeteer who plays her. "She's this over-enthusiastic child, who always wants to know everything. She's out-there, and confident."Rani's creators say she is over-enthusiastic, and unstoppable, deliberately so. "She's very much at the top of things," says the show's head writer Imran Peerzada. "We wanted to show her taking the lead.""The only requisite is to make a beautiful programme, so our children can get inspired."Elmo's new home is a Pakistani village, complete with tea-stall and shady Banyan tree. Big Bird has not made the journey, so he is surrounded by new friends. There is Baily the donkey - who wants to be a pop star - and a vain crocodile called Haseen O'Jameel, who dwells at the bottom of a

johneeG wrote:I think Army is not the only problem in pak. The root of the mess is corrupt and selfish elites. And a poisonous ideology.

Replacing a few individuals with others or replacing one Org.(like army) with another org. seems like a temporary fix and is unlikely to solve anything.

Big events do not always have big causes. The British once went to war over an injury to a sea captain's ear. And today's Pakistan may collapse into military rule because of one man's eagerness to read his name in the newspaper and see his face on TV.

The man in question is Mansoor Ijaz, a Pakistani-American businessman who takes a special delight in political intrigue. Ijaz represents himself as a democrat, a secularist, and a friend of the West. Whatever Ijaz's personal views, nobody has done more these past weeks to undercut Pakistani democracy and poison U.S.-Pakistan relations.

In the 2000s, Ijaz produced a series of sensational revelations, which again and again proved untrue.

The embarrassment of bin Laden being found on Pakistani soil had humiliated Mr Zardari's weak civilian government to such an extent that the president feared a military takeover was imminent. He needed an American fist on his army chief's desk to end any misguided notions of a coup -- and fast."

And it's not like it would be so hard for the president of Pakistan to get a secret message directly to the president of the United States: There's a large and highly capable U.S. diplomatic mission in Islamabad. Ijaz's story was bizarre on its face.

After all, if the conspiracy theories about Ijaz are not correct, we are left with only two other possibilities: Either he is telling the truth -- but that possibility has to be discounted by the heavy evidence to the contrary -- or Pakistani democracy has been corroded, and the U.S. and Pakistan have been pushed toward a dangerous confrontation by a reckless fantasist motivated by childish vanity.

Theo_Fidel wrote:

SSridhar wrote:The American intention is crystal clear. They are *still* willing to sacrifice normal Indian interests to make Pakistan behave better towards them. They have never minded that their policies have endangered India, and Afghanistan too in the past, tremendously. This is how the US would behave in the future too vis-a-vis India.

Don't understand why we expect different and I always scratch m head when people say Amrika should concern itself with Indian interests. Despite all the fawning we share very little in common. They don't understand us and we don't understand them. It will always be so.

Pakistan's president has left an intensive care unit at a hospital in Dubai and is "resting to recuperate," his spokesman said Thursday.

n a report on the state-run Associated Press of Pakistan, Babar said Zardari is in Dubai "for his regular medical checkup."

Another spokeswoman, Farahnaz Ispahani, said Wednesday that the president was undergoing routine tests related to a previously diagnosed heart condition.

The trip to Dubai sparked rumors that Zardari had suffered a heart attack. But Babar, on Wednesday, described those reports as as "speculative, imaginary and untrue."

Babar added that the president went to Dubai "at the insistence" of his children.

BajKhedawal wrote:Is it possible that the pakistani's willfully aware of the Osama Bin Laden raid silently decoded the RQ-170 signature, and shared it with its axis of evil allies? RQ-170 that Iran brought down was done so by electronic warfare, which explains why its intact, and not in debris.

Once again karma is trying to teach the great Amerikhan that if you lay down with pigs you will wake up with fleas.

Cosmo_R wrote:Is indeed intact? Any links to pictures from the Iranians?

[url=http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=81199&Cat=2]Pakistan finally in peace talks with TTP[/url]

In a surprising development, Interior Minister Rehman Malik has expressed thanks to the Pakistani Taliban for not staging any terrorist attack during Ashura, thus giving credence to earlier reports that the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) was in peace talks with the government.

But it remains unclear whether Rehman Malik, who is infamous for making notorious statements on important issues of national importance in the past, was referring to a formal appeal made to the Taliban, given the fact that he himself had previously denied reports of peace talks with the Taliban.

The only known offer of peace talks made by Rehman Malik to the Taliban on the eve of Eidul Azha [on November 6] was rejected by the TTP chief Hakeemullah Mehsud [on November 7], by vowing to carry out more terrorist attacks on the state of Pakistan.

The offer was made in accordance with a resolution adopted at an all-party conference [on October 18, 2011] in Islamabad, which had endorsed peace talks with the Taliban. But well informed circles in the ministry of interior claim that the TTP had actually set some pre-requisites to initiate peace negotiations with the government, most of which have been accepted in the aftermath of the November 26 Nato air attack on two Pakistani check posts on the Pak-Afghan border, killing 25 soldiers.

Pakistan reacted sharply to the deadly Nato strike by announcing
1) a review of the Pak-US ties,
2)suspending the Nato supply lines through from Pakistan to Afghanistan and
3) giving a 15-day deadline to the Americans to vacate the Shamsi Air Base in Balochistan.
All the three Pakistani actions correspond closely with the November 19 pre-conditions made public by a TTP spokesman for entering into peace negotiations with the federal government

The government circles in Islamabad say following the deaths of TTP founder Baitullah Mehsud and the chief of the group’s suicide bombing squad, Qari Hussain Mehsud, the Pakistani Taliban are comparatively weakened and are ready to hold peace talks with a government which is increasingly seen at odds with the United States eversince the May 2 Abbottabad.
Therefore, the rhythm of suicide attacks has changed dramatically in Pakistan, which has not experienced any major suicide attack after September 15 when a suicide bomber killed 46 people at a funeral in the Lower Dir district of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Province.

It was the first major anti-Shia attack in Afghanistan since the fall of the Afghan Taliban a decade ago, the responsibility for which has already been claimed by none other than a Pakistan-based sectarian-cum-terrorist organisation - the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al Almi - an offshoot of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, an anti-Shia sectarian-cum-jehadi group founded in 1996.

A spokesman for LeJ (Almi) claimed the Kabul attack in a phone call to Radio Mashaal, a Pashto language radio station in Afghanistan. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al Almi is reportedly based in Pakistan’s tribal areas on the Pak-Afghan border and is considered an even more radical offshoot of the LeJ. Both groups act as surrogates for al-Qaeda. In fact, the TTP has its roots in anti-Shia violence, with LeJ acting as the training ground for many of its anti-Shia leaders including Hakeemullah Mehsud and his first cousin Qari Hussain Mehsud.

According to the interior ministry circles in Islamabad, the LeJ consists of eight loosely coordinated cells spread across Pakistan with independent chiefs for each cell. Headed by a fugitive Punjabi Taliban leader, Maulana Abdul Khalil, who comes from the central Punjab, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi al-Almi is largely believed to be the international wing of the LeJ, which operates mostly in central parts of Punjab and the tribal areas on the Pak-Afghan border.

But many terrorism experts believe that there is hardly any difference between the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi Al-Almi and the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi that used to maintain military training camps in Afghanistan under the Taliban regime led by Mullah Mohammad Omar.

Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit said "October next year is the timeframe which has been given" for granting MFN status to India.

Battered by Pakistani military operations and U.S. drone strikes, the once-formidable Pakistani Taliban has splintered into more than 100 smaller factions, weakened and is running short of cash, according to security officials, analysts and tribesmen from the insurgent heartland.

Another factor is the divide-and-conquer strategy Pakistan’s military has long employed in its dealings with militants. Commanders have broken away from the TTP and set up their own factions, weakening the organization. Battles have broken out among the breakaway factions, and in one particularly remote tribal region the TTP was thrown out. These growing signs of fissures among the disparate groups that make up the Pakistani Taliban indicate the military’s strategy could be paying off.

That would explain the mixed signals this month coming out of the tribal belt, where some militants are mulling the idea of peace talks with the government, others are offering to stop fighting and still others are disavowing both peace and a cease-fire. It might also explain a steady decline in suicide attacks in Pakistan, according to the privately run Pak Institute for Peace Studies.