Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP): 15 Jan 2012

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 16 Jan 2012 19:10

Blackberry refuses to give Memogate data to Pakistan

Geo News reported that the BlackBerry maker has refused to release data related to the memo that led to the stepping down of the country's US envoy Husain Haqqani and a festering row between the military and the political leadership.

The phone manufacturer, based in Canada, has said that their privacy laws prohibit disclosure of a customer's data to any other party without the consent of the parties concerned, hence Pakistan cannot have the information.

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 16 Jan 2012 21:32

Pakistan points gun at its own head (The Australian)

Who gets to decide when a democratically elected government's time is up? To the average Japanese, Indian or American, the answer is obvious: the same people who voted it into office in the first place. Not so for the average Pakistani.

...whatever their frustrations, Pakistanis need to be wary of a cure that's worse than the disease. Simply put, the costs to the country of yet another government turfed out prematurely - whether by the courts or by the military - far outweigh any benefits. How can democracy be expected to take root when undemocratic forces yank it out of the ground every few years?

Pakistanis must also understand that none of the main protagonists in this drama can credibly claim to be placing national interests over parochial ones. The Supreme Court has gone out of its way to target Zardari and Haqqani while ignoring older cases.

Don't hold your breath for the court to investigate the role of the army's Inter-Services Intelligence agency in influencing national elections, or claims that the ISI canvassed Middle Eastern countries to support a coup last summer. And then there's the mystery of why the world's most wanted terrorist was comfortably ensconced a stone's throw from Pakistan's premier military academy.

The army has perfected the art of dressing up self-interest as patriotism. In most democratic countries, army chief General Ashfaq Kayani and spymaster General Ahmad Shuja Pasha would have been sacked for incompetence or insubordination.

Pakistan once again finds itself at a crossroads where it can choose between strengthening democracy and perpetuating the malign influence of a politicised army. At this point, those baying for Zardari's blood ought to remember one simple fact: that the democratic process is more important than a single individual.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 16 Jan 2012 22:10

No, darkest green is black, the color of turbans of Muhaamad's lashkar.

However Taleban are Ghilzai Pashtuns usurping the early Arabian colors to claim ultimate doctrinal purity. Taleban is a Pahstun nationalist movement.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 16 Jan 2012 22:28

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/17/world ... ml?_r=1&hp#
Pakistan Court Orders Prime Minister to Testify
By DECLAN WALSH
Published: January 16, 2012
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Pakistan’s highest court escalated its clash with the government on Monday by initiating contempt of court proceedings against Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani for failing to pursue corruption charges against his boss, President Asif Ali Zardari.
The Supreme Court was clearly infuriated after the government’s lawyer said the government had given no instructions on how to respond to the court’s demands.
Justice Nasir ul Mulk ordered Mr. Gilani to appear Thursday to explain why he should not be charged with contempt, a charge that could open to the door to his dismissal from office.
“We are left with no option,” Justice ul Mulk told a courtroom packed with lawyers, journalists and politicians.
Prime ministers are rarely called to court in Pakistan and the order was a measure of the seriousness of the clash between the two institutions, as a hawkish military hovers in the background amid sporadic rumors of a coup.
Last week the military, which has done little to disguise its loathing for the president and prime minister, warned of “potentially grievous consequences” if the government did not halt its unusually frank public criticism of the army.
Few analysts believe a coup is imminent, but speculation is rife that the military is using the court as a means of ousting President Zardari through constitutional means.
The army chief, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, met with the president and the prime minister over the weekend in an apparent show of unity. But the military has quietly supported two legal cases that, in different ways, challenge the government’s authority......."
Gautam

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 16 Jan 2012 22:34

Where’s Pakistan the Quaid fought for? (The Int'l News)

There are people who as young boys and girls either participated in or saw others for themselves fight for Pakistan under the leadership of law-abiding and peace-loving Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah. Many of them are now struggling for survival with dignity and honour, exhorting the youth to get united and prepare for turning their homeland into a progressive welfare state as was envisioned by hundreds of thousands who sacrificed their lives.

What was the ideal for which our elders struggled after March 23, 1940? Why that ideal hasn’t been achieved so far? What kind of state the Quaid had in mind for an overall improvement in standards of living. Why socio-economic justice is still foremost in our minds? The fact of the matter is that the country, for most part of its life, has been ruled by adventurers and power hungry politicians who sought blessing of an imperialist power. They didn’t fear God, nor did they ever try to develop a pro-people economic and political system according to the teachings of Islam to solve the varied problems a large number of which still exit, such as the need for unity, discipline and integrity.

The founder of Pakistan never wanted a state ruled by landlords and capitalists who flourish at the expense of masses by a vicious and wicked system which makes them selfish.

The suffering people are looking for the Pakistan which the Quaid and his followers had dreamed. And that was an exploitation-free well-defended, independent and sovereign state with a government of the people, for the people and by the people. How to evolve such a peaceful and prosperous political entity? The task may look gigantic, but that’s certainly not beyond accomplishment provided we get united with iron determination to translate the dream of social progress and economic prosperity. For that, as true Muslims, we’ll have to zealously guard and preserve our unity.

... that is possible only when political leaders stop seeking monetary help from any imperialist power, surrender to the will of God and mentally decide to serve the cause of motherland. Soon will re-emerge in the comity of nations the real Pakistan where principles of Islamic social and economic justice will find free play.

“Nature has given us everything, we’ve got unlimited resources and manpower; we must work our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on the true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice,” that’s how citizens have begun thinking about the future economic survival of their homeland. They say the moment has arrived to distinguish between friends and foes, and defend and save the country by strengthening the foundation of brotherhood that already exists between the civil and military departments of life.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 16 Jan 2012 22:42

Hundreds of computers and smartphones from US to GCC countries, Europe to India and even in mainland Balochistan, were used by Baloch activists sitting at their homes, logged in to twitter accounts to force the most powerful country to comment on Balochistan issue. It is a great success of Baloch activism. It reflects how Baloch movement has grown up and how it has disassociated itself from mainly tribal struggle.It should be noted that girls were very active in tweeting to the State Department that resulted in coming forth of the statement. The female factor is becoming a significant factor in Baloch Resistance. In future women and girls will be playing a greater role.
I am proud to have played a small part on evoking a response from US State Dept.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 16 Jan 2012 22:44

chaanakya wrote:Mullen has accepted that he had received some Memorandum from paki sources though he did not reveal its content. If it was not real, PPP would have been hell bent on discrediting it. Izaz is poison pill for PPP in the wake of OBL to help Army come out of its ignominious situation post OBL and regain its credibility.

On TimesNow Mr Parthsarathy mentioned that Gen Kyanai visited DC and interviewed Izaz and did not report the findings to PM for three weeks. Gen Kayani would have been sacked if in India. But , instead a crisis for Govt erupted. I think Izaz was ISI agent all along , a leaking back channel for PPP..

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 16 Jan 2012 22:54

Swizerland of the East, indeed
Jo Lahore may ...., woh Swizerland may bhi....

Dad killed daughter in brutal axe murder

A Swiss prosecutor has described as a "veritable slaughter" the vicious axe murder of a 16-year-old girl by her 53-year-old Pakistani father, who believed his daughter had tarnished her family's honour.

After washing his hands, he left the apartment and called his wife to say he had killed his daughter.

Swera's boyfriend explained that the girl's parents had strongly disapproved of her relationship with him, primarily because he was a Christian.

AoA!

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 16 Jan 2012 23:03

^ Pacquis will be proud....One of the comments.

Typical uncivilized stuff we see from middle eastern immigrants.

pankajs · Post by **pankajs** » 16 Jan 2012 23:05

National Assembly votes in favour of democratic government

Pro-democracy bill gets passed in the National Assembly with a majority vote. Gilani terms Parliament supreme.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 16 Jan 2012 23:15

http://www.rferl.org/content/pakistan_d ... 53750.html
Democracy As 'The Best Revenge' In Pakistan
January 16, 2012
"While the political crisis that has beset Pakistan is seen as do-or-die for its civilian government, the country's powerful army is also feeling the heat amid signs of public opposition to any explicit military intervention.
Despite "provocative" albeit well-placed "state-within-the-state" comments by Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani referring to the army and its powerful intelligence arm, the ISI, or the sacking of defense secretary, the military leadership so far has not attempted to intervene directly.
Instead, analysts suggest, the generals are behind the scenes pushing an "interventionist" Supreme Court not to let the civilian government off the hook.
The case in point is the murky memo addressed to former U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, appealing for help to prevent Pakistan's generals from an attempted coup in light of the May 1-2 raid to kill Osama bin Laden in Abbotabad and the controversial National Reconciliation Ordinance (NRO) introduced by former President Pervez Musharraf granting amnesty to all political leaders, workers, and bureaucrats accused of corruption, embezzlement, or misuse of authority from 1986 to 1999.
In recent weeks, the hydra-like crisis in Pakistan has become the focus of both Pakistani and international media following every turn with utmost interest.
Notwithstanding media criticism of the civilian government over a host of issues -- including governance, economic woes, law and order, energy, and perceived timidity in the face of militancy -- many leading analysts, newspapers, and television commentators say they're averse to the kind of extraconstitutional measures seen in the past.
So despite the drawbacks, many commentators appear to favor the existing civilian set-up -- which could mark a positive trend in Pakistan, where portrayals of the army are frequently those of the hero, whether through conflict with India, overthrow of civilian governments, or efforts to counter militancy......"
Gautam

Philip · Post by **Philip** » 16 Jan 2012 23:19

Famous last Paki words! Gen.Kill-any and his cronies in 'slambad and Pindi, and his cohorts across the country must be rolling with laughter at the vote in the Paki Natl.Assembly.The "supremacy" of the Paki army is such a naked fact,that the vote passed is nothing more than a circus act...time to play,"send in the clowns"!

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Jan 2012 00:06

Chances of coup are receding every day this kabuki goes on. The audience that is aam janata are not truign the TSPA as first choice to pull them out of deep doo doo. After a long time the there is doubt about TSPA being the final saviors of TSP.

But then I hope to be proven wrong!!!

partha · Post by **partha** » 17 Jan 2012 00:10

I think this is what will happen - Army will bring down this government using the supreme court -> Fresh elections -> Army rigs elections and makes sure Imran Khan comes to power.

krithivas · Post by **krithivas** » 17 Jan 2012 00:22

“Being an agricultural country, we have a vast range of animals and we invite Muslim countries to trade with Pakistan on Halal,” Aolukh said.
The minister was addressing the ‘2nd International Conference & Expo on Halal Industry’ at a local hotel. Aolukh added that the Halal industry was worth $3 trillion and was expanding day by day

http://tribune.com.pk/story/322373/paki ... -minister/

Hope springs eternal? If only Pigs can fly? etc. etc.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Jan 2012 00:25

When I was first working in US, a Paki guy had a book on whats hallal and would consult it before buying cookies from the vending machine. It had detailed list of whats allowed and if its not on its not allowed!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 17 Jan 2012 00:58

ramana wrote:Chances of coup are receding every day this kabuki goes on. The audience that is aam janata are not truign the TSPA as first choice to pull them out of deep doo doo. After a long time the there is doubt about TSPA being the final saviors of TSP.

But then I hope to be proven wrong!!!

I think SC is helping the Army for the coup. Army wants an institutional help to justify their act. But that is a weakness which was never TSPA's trait in the past. Kiyani is their weakest among the strong mards.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 17 Jan 2012 01:05

Groper made a very strong speech in the Parliament and threw down the gauntlet. The Parliament also passed a resolution supporting democracy. I think he has manage to sell them the idea that they (ruling as well as opposition party) are going to collectively get it if any of them supports the power-grab by the Army or the Courts.

This is an interesting situation. Those in the assembly can cut deals with each other leaving the army and the Courts out. Badmash for example, wants early elections before more of his support base is eroded by Imran Khan and might be willing to play ball.

Or all of this is a huge farce where every party waxes eloquent about democracy in the assembly but will stab each other in the back.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 17 Jan 2012 01:49

Altair, what is the background? Are there any web sites summarizing this effort?

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 17 Jan 2012 02:20

krithivas wrote:
“Being an agricultural country, we have a vast range of animals and we invite Muslim countries to trade with Pakistan on Halal,” Aolukh said.
The minister was addressing the ‘2nd International Conference & Expo on Halal Industry’ at a local hotel. Aolukh added that the Halal industry was worth $3 trillion and was expanding day by day
http://tribune.com.pk/story/322373/paki ... -minister/

Hope springs eternal? If only Pigs can fly? etc. etc.

$3 trillion worth Halal industry? What is this Paki minister smoking? The combined GDP of all the Islamic countries together in nominal terms is around $1.5 trillion.

Paki can't tell the difference between billions, trillions, etc.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 17 Jan 2012 02:24

Nandu wrote:Altair, what is the background? Are there any web sites summarizing this effort?

I was one of the earliest ones to give folks in BLA a blueprint for a coordinated plan to reach American and European diplomats both current and Ex through E-mail campaign, Twitter & Facebook feeds, Podcast etc..It is simple online marketing strategy which I apply at a corporate level and I modified that for a good cause. Nothing too fancy and hard work when you have people who work for free with die hard passion. It is actually easier than it appears!
I must have saved atleast 100 million dollars in lobbying cost for them and I did it for free. It gives great satisfaction.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Jan 2012 02:27

Altair wrote:[quote="I was one of the earliest ones to give folks in BLA a blueprint for a coordinated plan to reach American and European diplomats both current and Ex through E-mail campaign, Twitter & Facebook feeds, Podcast etc..It is simple online marketing strategy which I apply at a corporate level and I modified that for a good cause. Nothing too fancy and hard work when you have people who work for free with die hard passion. It is actually easier than it appears!
I must have saved atleast 100 million dollars in lobbying cost for them and I did it for free. It gives great satisfaction.

Jai ho !!

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 17 Jan 2012 02:30

Congratulations. Great work.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Jan 2012 02:35

Gilani to appear before SC on Jan 19

Ja charr jaa puttar phansi pei, Allah jannat dega
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani will appear before the Supreme Court on Thursday, Jan 19 accompanied by a team of the governments legal experts, DawnNews reported.
The decision was taken by at a meeting of the Parliamentary Committee of the coalition partners on Monday.
The meeting was attended by Chaudhry Pervaiz Elahi, Asfandyar Wali, Farooq Sattar, Munir Orakzai, Israrullah Zehri and other leaders of the political parties present in the coalition.Meanwhile, Minister for Information and Broadcasting Firdous Ashiq Awan, while briefing reporters after the meeting, said the PPP had always respected institutions and believed in the independence of judiciary. She said the prime minister will appear before the court on Jan 19. The government believes in resolving problems through negotiations, she added.Interior Minister Rehman Malik repeated similar words, saying “We respect the Supreme Court, and will appear before the court whenever summoned.”“The Prime Minister will appear before the SC on Jan 19,” said Malik.PM Gilani was issued a contempt of court notice in the NRO implementation case on Monday, and was directed by the SC to appear before the apex court on Jan 19.Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) leader Qamar Zaman Kaira also confirmed that a team of legal experts would accompany the prime minister on Jan 19.The coalition parties are with the prime minister,” said Kaira, indicating that the government had the support of its coalition partners. “We will appear before the court to represent our point of view,” he added.Coalition partners had advised the prime minister to appear before the apex court. In a meeting also attended by President Asif Ali Zardari, the coalition partners also advised the premier to avoid policies of confrontation and play his role to eradicate tension between the institutions

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 17 Jan 2012 02:36

Thank you for your appreciation. I would also request all BR folks to put a status message supporting Baluchis in your social media sites and educate your friends to do the same.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Jan 2012 02:39

Bberry na Khole,phatt jayegge,Kayani garam hai ,Massa narm Hai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMD0VOT30gQ
Haqqanis BlackBerry lost
Att-horney-General Maulvi Anwarul Haq told the commission that Haqqani's old BlackBerry phone had been lost in the United States. The commission subsequently directed the authorities to look for his phone. Meanwhile BlackBerry maker has refused to release data related to the memo that led to the stepping down of the country's US envoy Husain Haqqani and a festering row between the military and the political leadership.The phone manufacturer, based in Canada, has said that their privacy laws prohibit disclosure of a customer's data to any other party without the consent of the parties concerned, hence Pakistan cannot have the information.RIM said that their response was to a sealed letter from the attorney general of Pakistan, the media report said.The Att= horney General Maulvi Anwarul Haq informed the Commission Monday that the Pakistan High Commission in Britain was instructed to issue Canadian visa to Mansoor Ijaz as soon as he appears.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 17 Jan 2012 03:25

I must have saved atleast 100 million dollars in lobbying cost for them and I did it for free. It gives great satisfaction.

I am proud to have played a small part on evoking a response from US State Dept.

Great and congratulations for your humble effort.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 17 Jan 2012 03:41

$3 trillion worth Halal industry? What is this Paki minister smoking? The combined GDP of all the Islamic countries together in nominal terms is around $1.5 trillion.

Most of the turkeys sold in USA/Canada during thanksgiving could be HALAL!! (Butterball sells all Halal turkies), people in these lands to not care whether food is halaal/koshered or not.

anishns · Post by **anishns** » 17 Jan 2012 04:01

^^^

Au contraire....Bajwa sir!

America Gives Butterball the Bird Over Halal Turkey Cover-Up

SBajwa wrote:
Most of the turkeys sold in USA/Canada during thanksgiving could be HALAL!! (Butterball sells all Halal turkies), people in these lands to not care whether food is halaal/koshered or not.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 17 Jan 2012 04:05

pankajs wrote:National Assembly votes in favour of democratic government
Pro-democracy bill gets passed in the National Assembly with a majority vote. Gilani terms Parliament supreme.

I thought Qooran was supreme.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Jan 2012 04:40

Who is gonna convince the customers that the Animals hallaled were not sexually molestd by Paki before cutting their neck ?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -edge.html
Mymygate Brings Pakistan to the Edge

Pakistan is sinking deeper into its political morass as the economy teeters and security deteriorates. It was sucked down further today when the Supreme Court ordered the embattled government’s Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to appear before it on Thursday to show why he should not be held in contempt of court for refusing for two years to obey a court order requiring him to reopen corruption cases against President Asif Ali Zardari and many other political allies. An eventual contempt ruling could disqualify him from holding office and could theoretically topple his government. “If the court announces a conviction, that could be sufficient to disqualify him to hold a seat in Parliament,” says lawyer Ahtar Minallah, who argues cases before the Supreme Court. “The prime minister seems blatantly determined to violate the decision, knowing full well the consequences.”Zardari and Gilani have been asking for trouble, and now they have it. Two years ago the Supreme Court overturned a controversial amnesty agreement that had dropped corruption charges against Zardari and hundreds of other allied politiciansZardari and Gilani seem to be standing firm. Senior members of their ruling Pakistan People’s Party are already saying that they are ready to nominate a new prime minister if necessary. Gilani is said to be mentally prepared to resign if that could ease the pressure from the court and the army on the government. With a new man in office, their reasoning goes, the government could plead it needs more time for compliance with the court’s decision.

The only good news in this depressing landscape of power struggles, inflation, electricity and natural gas shortages and resurgent terrorism is that the possibility of a military coup at this point seems remote. “The only good point is that none of the [anti-government] forces would want the democratic architecture to be toppled,” says Masood. “The military has no love for democracy. It’s simply that the generals don’t want the responsibility of toppling the government, and then picking up the resulting responsibility of dealing with the economic mess.”

( Moral of the story. Kyani to Commanuds , Dekho Mere Khali Haatth, China nahi dega Ek Nakad Paisa, Sirf Lafzi Shabaash. Bolo Unkil Se Niha Kabool hai tho Mehar set karron. )

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 17 Jan 2012 06:14

Thirteen dead in clash with armed militants in Musakhel

Just Another Day In Parasite Paradise

QUETTA: At least 13 people were killed Monday as security forces clashed with unidentified armed militants in Musakhel district of Balochistan, DawnNews reported.According to security sources, Frontier Corps (FC) paramilitary troops exchanged heavy gunfire with the armed group of militants on Monday evening near the Kingri area of Musakhel district.The gunfire reportedly ensued for several hours. Security officials confirmed 13 casualties, while the number of injured could not be confirmed.

SBajwa · Post by **SBajwa** » 17 Jan 2012 06:44

Halaal is prohibited for Sikhs (not sure about Hindus) but Sri Guru Gobind Singh himself forbade Sikhs to eat Halal meat. So if Sikhs are eating Halal meat in USA/Canada (without knowing) it is a HUGE POLITICAL ISSUE!! I have already put butterball on my HIT LIST for Sikh organizations.

Can Shankaracharaya or other hindu leaders declare that "HALAL IS A NO-NO for HINDUS?" I do see hindus buying and eating halal meats (goat) from pakistanis (and arabians) where not available.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 17 Jan 2012 07:05

Altair wrote:
Nandu wrote:Altair, what is the background? Are there any web sites summarizing this effort?
I was one of the earliest ones to give folks in BLA a blueprint for a coordinated plan to reach American and European diplomats both current and Ex through E-mail campaign, Twitter & Facebook feeds, Podcast etc... . . It gives great satisfaction.

Altair, brilliant. Keep it up.

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 17 Jan 2012 07:16

As U.S.-Pakistani relations sink, nations try to figure out ‘a new normal’

In a call to her Pakistani counterpart this month, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton reiterated the Obama administration’s counterterrorism “red line”: The United States reserved the right to attack anyone who it determined posed a direct threat to U.S. national security, anywhere in the world.

Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar responded in kind, telling Clinton that Pakistan’s red line was the violation of its sovereignty. Any unauthorized flight into its airspace, Khar bluntly told Clinton, risked being shot down.

After the November border clash, the Obama administration suspended its regular drone attacks inside Pakistan to avoid further unsettling relations, U.S. officials said. And in a rare display of deference early this month, the CIA informed the Pakistani government that it planned a drone strike against a terrorist target in the North Waziristan tribal region and asked Islamabad’s permission. When Pakistan declined, the strike was cancelled, officials said.

But on Jan. 10, barely a week later, the 55-day drone hiatus ended abruptly with a strike that killed four alleged militants in North Waziristan, followed by another strike two days afterward. Although officials said Pakistan was notified in advance, permission was not sought.

U.S. officials question whether Pakistan has the ability or the desire to shoot down U.S. aircraft, whether armed drones; unarmed, unmanned planes that regularly conduct surveillance over border areas; or manned attack and military transport planes that sometimes stray unintentionally over the border.

They said there have been at least two accidental violations of Pakistani airspace in recent weeks by piloted aircraft in Afghanistan, but both incidents were calmly defused by border coordination centers on the Afghan side.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Jan 2012 07:24

Actually a raid or a skirmish is not the right to attack anyone, anywhere.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 17 Jan 2012 07:25

SBajwa wrote:Halaal is prohibited for Sikhs (not sure about Hindus) but Sri Guru Gobind Singh himself forbade Sikhs to eat Halal meat. So if Sikhs are eating Halal meat in USA/Canada (without knowing) it is a HUGE POLITICAL ISSUE!! I have already put butterball on my HIT LIST for Sikh organizations.

Can Shankaracharaya or other hindu leaders declare that "HALAL IS A NO-NO for HINDUS?" I do see hindus buying and eating halal meats (goat) from pakistanis (and arabians) where not available.

Half the Indian restaurants in US will close down! Most of them use halal to attract people.

ranjbe · Post by **ranjbe** » 17 Jan 2012 07:27

Meanwhile, head money for MushRat keeps going up, as does his potential accomodations when he returns:

"We will give Rs 1 million in cash and a bungalow worth 100 million rupees to anybody who kills Musharraf. And we'll also provide him full security," Shahzain Bugti said.

"The gallows are ready for Musharraf. There will be serious consequences, if the government does not arrest him upon his arrival," he warned.

The prisons authorities were also reportedly considering an option of keeping Musharraf in the District Jail, Quetta, but due to high security facilities available at Mach, it is expected that the former president will be detained at the central prison

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/bugti ... ad/900259/

rajanb · Post by **rajanb** » 17 Jan 2012 08:11

Altair wrote:
Nandu wrote:Altair, what is the background? Are there any web sites summarizing this effort?
I was one of the earliest ones to give folks in BLA a blueprint for a coordinated plan to reach American and European diplomats both current and Ex through E-mail campaign, Twitter & Facebook feeds, Podcast etc..It is simple online marketing strategy which I apply at a corporate level and I modified that for a good cause. Nothing too fancy and hard work when you have people who work for free with die hard passion. It is actually easier than it appears!
I must have saved atleast 100 million dollars in lobbying cost for them and I did it for free. It gives great satisfaction.

Way to go!! Great!!

Proud to be Indian and proud to be a BRFite!

Airavat · Post by **Airavat** » 17 Jan 2012 08:42

Punjabi-Seraiki dishum-bishum

Seraiki is a just dialect of Punjabi and not a different language. Moreover, the Seraiki population in Punjab is 17%, while 40% of Sindh’s population is Seraiki. Given these statistics, where should a Seraiki province first be made, Punjab or Sindh? Haven’t Punjabis already divided their motherland to become a part of the federation of Pakistan?

@ Author
Dude! First learn to do some credible research. Saraiki is not a dialect of Punjabi. Have you ever heard Saraiki? If you are a Punjabi, I bet you would never be able to speak it.

@Pakistan Khan: I don’t know where you get your information but most linguists do consider Seraiki a dialect of Punjabi and for that matter Hindko spoken in Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa is also a dialect. I suggest you reference a classic text on South Asian languages to prove this to yourself. Granted Seraiki may take time for a native Punjabi speaker to master but don’t kid yourself.

“Seraiki is a just dialect of Punjabi and not a different language.”
for your information seraiki is a DIFFERENT language.
how can such an uninformed person write for a mainstream media group???
and thx to punjabi dominance most seraikis cant read or write so u wont find many comments by seraikis here(just check the HEC’s website to see the number of universities in southern punjab)