Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Suppiah » 20 Nov 2012 20:51

SSridhar wrote:The tactic of the PA/ISI (as it is true of most other similar organizations) is to create another group or split an existing group when the original one becomes too big for comfort, even though both groups continue to receive support from the PA/ISI.


Recent experience shows whenever TSPA/ISI does that, it only makes the splinter groups more independent, more anti-TSPA and even happy to coordinate with each other for mutual benefit, instead of bumping each other off, as darker shades of green are already doing...

The benefit of course, is that having more feet on the ground to paint the whole of TSP further and further into darker shades. Since the problems created within TSP can only be solved by more Islam, this is of course welcome.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Mihaylo » 20 Nov 2012 20:57

Arun_J wrote:Watched the National Geographic's - Seal Team Six last night and was really disappointed to see that the all the Paki parts were shot in Maharashtra with Indian Sarees and Hindi shop signs all too visible. Director did not even make an attempt to use urdu and the Indian actors were saying "Shanti Rakhiye" in Abbottabad when the raid was on. wtf??

Also, in the movie it shows that Pukis scrambled their F-16s and were told to return to base by Amerikhan's planes. I thought they didn't know till the raid was over. Double wtf??



Actually, if we step back a bit, the whole thing is a big WTF!!. When it happened, the Pukes went "WTF-Allah knows best", Indians went "WTF-if only we had the balls", Chinese went "WTF-if only we had the tech". Hell even, a lot of Amrikhans went "WTF-Really ?".
In time, the several versions of the truth will come out :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Rudradev » 20 Nov 2012 22:14

The US/UK academic and media elevation of Hafiz Sayeed, as well as his casting in a politician's role by the TSPA/ISI, fit perfectly with a theory I advanced some months ago on the India-US thread:

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[The "Arab Spring"] is a situation partially created and wholly taken advantage of by the West to consolidate the strength of the Muslim Brotherhood, newly adopted as an Anglo-American Sunni Islamist proxy, in North Africa and West Asia. The MB has been chosen because ideologically it is at odds with Al-Qaeda/Wahhabandism/Salafism.

The collateral threat to India lies in the fact that these experiments in the Arab world will undoubtedly be replicated in Pakistan. The current Pakistani Islamist leadership of the TSPA and ISI is overwhelmingly pro Al-Qaeda/Wahhabandi/Salafi. If this bunch can be replaced with another group of equally vicious Islamists, equally anti-India, but pro-Muslim Brotherhood and anti Al-Qaeda/Wahhabandi/Salafi... it should be clear why this would represent a win for the West, and a serious threat to India.


To recap briefly, after 9/11, the grand thesis in Washington was that many Muslim countries were led by oppressive and corrupt dictators/monarchies, some of whom were anti-US but many of whom were allies of the US; and that anti-US Islamists were taking advantage of popular disaffection with US-backed tyrants to strengthen militant fronts like Al-Qaeda etc. Different groups in the Washington establishment espoused two alternative paths to deal with Muslim countries.

1) The Bush Neoconservatives wanted to invade certain Muslim nations with anti-US regimes, depose their dictators (making an example of them), fight Islamist groups with American forces on foreign soil, and eventually re-model the invaded countries under pro-Western and apparently "democratic" regimes.

The problem with this, as we saw in Iraq:

a) Nation building is expensive and time-consuming. The initial mission was under-manned and overconfident. As time went on, the US electorate lost faith in the process, and were further aggravated by domestic economic collapse to withdraw any support for the war. Hence, given a half-a$$ed effort, an ambiguous result was the best that could be achieved.

b) More importantly: the balance of power post-invasion was one in which the masses were anti-US, and the clergy (who control the Muslim masses) were also anti-US. All Islamist groups were anti-US, and in fact, competing with one another to be more "pure" (hence, inflict more damage on the US). This allowed no scope for leveraging the existing factional splits between different Islamist groups, for a very long time. Eventually, when the Sunni Triangle was pacified, it was only because Muslim Brotherhood (MB) aligned Islamist militias were finally co-opted by the US against Wahhab/Salafi militias (al Zarqawi etc.) But the general disposition of US plus its non-Islamist (Chalabi, Alawi etc.) proxies vs. all Islamist groups, made the process of co-option very difficult.

2) Having learned these lessons, the Obama administration has come out with the other approach: a Clinton-Wilsonian approach of backing putsches by some (MB-friendly) Islamists against existing regimes. Their calculation is that MB-friendly Islamist regimes will have at least short-term support among the general public (because of disaffection with the old regime), and long-term support among substantial sections of the clergy; plus, they will have a vested interest in fighting against the anti-US Wahhab/Salafi political groups and clergy in their respective nations. As an added bonus, these MB-pasand regimes are likely to be anti-Iran for sectarian reasons.

Advantages of this:
a) It allows you to associate yourself with highly visible signs of public protest, because of legitimate popular disaffection with the old regime. Facebook, Twitter, thousands of people in the public square. It looks like a "good cause" mission of spreading demokrajy... so the American people, fed appropriate narratives by the media, will back it more readily than they would back an invasion.

b) It also looks less like "intervention" and more like "Muslims determining their own fate." The US can pull strings from behind the scenes without putting boots on the ground. Hence, the international community of US allies, NATO etc. are more likely to get behind this sort of operation rather than an Iraq-style invasion.

c) Ultimately the Muslim nations concerned remain Islamist totalitarian countries, and hence immune to progress, prosperity and independence... they are still capable of being controlled through colonial machinations.

Remember that the Clinton-Wilsonians were the original architects of "Color Revolutions" in Europe, Central Asia and Africa throughout the 90s. This is merely an extension of that operating procedure to Muslim countries.

By and large the experiment has succeeded in Egypt, Yemen and Tunisia, of whom all have deposed questionable dictators and replaced them with MB-friendly regimes. (Interestingly, Libya was the only case in which the MB lost elections by a small margin... one wonders if the Benghazi episode was payback for "promises not kept?") In Syria, both the Iraqi and the Egyptian MB are backing the guerrillas against Assad. GCC have resigned themselves to going along with the program and jockeying for as much political space as available.

Importantly, a nexus for many of the strings being pulled is in Istanbul, where the Gulenists have played the role of benign, US-approved godfather to all the MB-pasand movements elsewhere in the region.

And Pakistan?

To implement the same program in Pakistan, the West needs a committed Islamist who is not a Wahhabandi. In my earlier set of posts, I had thought the West might try to elevate someone connected to the MB-linked Hizb Ut Tahrir.

I was wrong on that detail. The man they seem to have chosen is Hafiz Sayeed. JuD is an Ahle Hadees group, and has been on the backfoot recently, losing cadres to the Wahhabandi groups fighting in AfPak. Ahle Hadees aren't directly or visibly connected with the MB as far as I know. However, through antecedents in the Khliafat movement they do have connections to the Gulenist Islamists in Turkey... once again, underscoring the potential role of Istanbul as the lynchpin of Washington's new Muslim strategy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby RajeshA » 20 Nov 2012 22:25

Rudradev ji,

excellent analysis! However do you think that through Gulenists, USA would have sufficient leverage over LeT, JuD? Also what leverage does USA really have over MB? Cairo?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Rudradev » 20 Nov 2012 22:40

Rajesh A-ji, whatever leverage they have now is better than what they had. Is it guaranteed? Of course not. In fact, in the medium-to-long term it is guaranteed to fail onlee. In the long term, people will get disaffected with the Morsi type MB-pasand leaders; the Morsi types will then declare martial law and pull out all kinds of blackmailing demands from their Musharrafs, that Washington should save their skins. Then it will be time for another round.

For now some trust exists between MB and Washington because Washington (1) did not back Mubarak, Ben Ali or Saleh ; (2) Lent muscle to topple Gaddaffi and is lending muscle to topple Assad, both of whom the MB does not like; (3) did not suppress (and may have indirectly assisted) elections of MB leaders to power in Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen; (4) cooperated with MB-pasand groups to get rid of Al-Qaeda elements in the Sunni Triangle of Iraqi... and is returning the favour by helping those same groups support their chosen proxies in Syria.

Point persons like Huma Abedin, a senior State Dept official with family ties to the MB, have also been instrumental in cementing the relationship. US-Turkey dealings have happened behind closed doors, so one can only guess at what has been promised to Ankara (one indicator is the public encouragement of Turkey by the "international community" to assume a "leading role in Syria/the ME".)

So that much political capital is there. When it runs out it runs out, but that gives Washington time and space to explore other options.

The US' strategy is not to find solutions but rather to manage the situation and keep a majority of factors in their favour for as long as possible. They want to minimize the operating space available to hardcore anti-US Islamists of the Wahhab/Salafi/Deobandi persuasion (the ones OBL & Taliban are associated with.) Balancing Sunni GCC against Iran is another priority. In AfPak, the priority is getting back to a situation where Pakistan can once again become a proxy rentier state for the West. None of those will be permanent situations, and as time goes on they will have to be continuously managed.

The JuD has popular support in Pakistan's heartland; they are an Islamist party with strong popular support and a certain degree of conflict with the Wahhabandi groups who otherwise dominate the Islamist spectrum in TSP. The US may be counting on aggravating the Wahhabandi/Ahle Hadees division as a means of gaining additional leverage over JuD. TSPA/ISI will play a role in this to "rehabilitate" themselves as well-intentioned allies of the West. Gulenist Turkey will probably play the role of an honest broker, trusted by all sides and offering its good offices to make sure everyone stays committed to the deal.

It is in America's interest if a TSPA-backed, democratically elected JuD regime once again takes control of most of the jihadis in AfPak, weaning them away from the Afghan-focused Wahhabandis to wage jihad against India instead.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Avik » 20 Nov 2012 22:54

they will have a vested interest in fighting against the anti-US Wahhab/Salafi political groups

They want to minimize the operating space available to hardcore anti-US Islamists of the Wahhab/Salafi/Deobandi persuasion (the ones OBL & Taliban are associated with.)


Rudradevji: Where does the above postulate leave US-Saudi relations? If the US is anti-Wahabi, then by extension, it is Anti-House of Saud. I dont think thats the case, yet.
Even if one were to assume that the US has gone anti-Wahabi, then the most logical (and easiest) path for the US to pursue would be to start becoming friendly with the Iranians. Those guys are the original anti-Wahabis.
Again, the Turkish Gulenist angle, while working to some degree, is not in full play. US-Turkish relations today, are not what they were 5 years back, especially after Turkey's antics with Israel. Turkey appears to be driving change in the ME, but that change is driven by Turkey's fear to keep the Kurds contained in Iraq, Iran and Syria. For Turkey, thats the driver. Everything else is secondary.
Finally, I think the LeT Jekyll & Hyde show is better explained by looking at what the Europeans did in Palestine, first with Al Fatah, and now trying with Hamas. Take an essentially terrorist organization, and then start gradually whitewashing it into an aid organization, and then a political entity. I think we need to examine UKs role in deeper detail in the Pakistan show- they're the ones the Pakis take inspiration from

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Prem » 20 Nov 2012 23:02

USA is Massa power,it dont make friends but partners for different projects. Mahapower thinks only of its own interest and can be friend of all parties as well adversary of all parties simultaneously by keeping its fingers,hand and leg in all the stirring pots but head in DC only.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Rudradev » 20 Nov 2012 23:04

Avi K ji, with respect, I think you are greatly oversimplifying the Saudi situation. Please read the links I have posted above, to my earlier (more detailed) posts on the subject. House of Saud does not automatically == Wahhabi; Wahhabis were a big influence there, but have come under pressure since 9/11, and especially since Prince Nayef (their biggest backer among the royals) died. Meanwhile the Saudis, despite their dislike for MB, have been persuaded to come around to an MB-pasand point of view before (e.g. the Khobar Towers incident, when they first blamed the MB, but later under US pressure shifted the blame to Iran.)

Becoming friendly with the Iranians creates a whole lot of other issues that the US does not want to deal with at this time; hence it is neither the easiest nor the most logical.

The Kurds in Northern Iraq, are, in fact, the Americans' best leverage against the Turks if they misbehave. But the Turks' ambitions go far, far beyond containing the Kurds. Any power which makes a public show of challenging Israel is, in fact, announcing itself as a contender for overall leadership of Islamic West Asia. The US and the Israelis both realize that this was Ankara's motivation to instigate that ship incident; and the US is now seeking ways of elevating Turkey's profile in Islamic West Asia in exchange for seeing its own interests served, while extracting promises to leave Israel alone.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby anupmisra » 21 Nov 2012 00:40

Pisshour emerges as polio reservoir
Ususally I use the term "reservoir" in a positive spin for an idea or achievement. Such as "reservoir of talent or ideas or capital". Apparently the pakis use it demonstrate how far deep down the ...er... reservoir they have sunk.

The Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Health Department has decided to focus its anti-polio efforts in the province on Peshawar as the city has turned out to be a reservoir of the crippling virus
the government had planned to vaccinate five million children in the province but couldn’t do so due to availability of only 1.4 million doses against the required six million.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Prem » 21 Nov 2012 03:56

Hassan Nisar, not only herrows and zerrow but Pir Awaliyas also foreigner. Pakis all Qaddoos and Fuddus . Ponooqqiostan was made to do loot maar and fear of lacking brain. Time of badmashi was over in 47.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0pFnomV ... ge#t=2678s

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Jhujar wrote:Hassan Nisar, not only herrows and zerrow but Pir Awaliyas also foreigner. Pakis all Qaddoos and Fuddus . Ponooqqiostan was made to do loot maar and fear of lacking brain. Time of badmashi was over in 47.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0pFnomV ... ge#t=2678s

Whatever Hassan Nisar says is not some revolutionary awakening from religious ignorance. It is the standard fare from Indo-Pak Islamist religious scholars for at least the last 125 years. I find a lot of Indians are big fans of Nisar because he knocks the more obvious corruptions of Paki society, but they don't realize that he is still very much an Islamist.

All Islamist scholars, including hardcore India-haters in the line of Imam Rabbani (Sheikh Sirhindi) always complain that: The Mughal sultanates, etc were composed mostly of ayyaash, promiscuous rascals, or those who went astray. Its just that Allah uses even imperfect humans to spread His message. Yet, these sultans are worthy of reproach because they didn't do enough to truly Islamize and enlighten the Indian subcontinent, apart from using Islam to control a section of people. Moreover, they were in league with Sufi cults which are plain superstitious or mystagogical heresy in most cases. Different contentious sects even within Islam are a bane and must be assimilated into purity. True Islam is against all this.

The likes of Hassan Nisar are merely reiterating the same thing. They believe that there is the REAL Islam which is enlightened, destroys all sorts of old superstitions, and picks up the best of science and technology available from all over the world and established the first globalized society.

To quote Mirza Asadullah Khan Ghalib, who like Hassan Nisaar was caustic in his criticism of mullas and loved his peg:

ham muvaahhid hain hamaara kesh hai tark-e rusoom
millatein jab miT gayeen ajzaa-e eemaan ho gayeen


"We are monotheists, our religion is in the abandonment of traditions,
When sects/nations were wiped out, they merged into and were absorbed into True Faith."

A noble soundbyte, but not less dangerous (not least because it touches upon Islamism's eminent ability in devouring nations). Islamism is full of noble sounding ideas. Its how they all come together or used that needs to be understood.

The same Hassan Nisaar in other places spews contempt for what was in Pakistan before the Islamist marauders came. He clearly says in one speech that the Islamist marauders were bad, but they made things better for the people there. He says that before Islam, the low caste Hindus had no rights and dignity at all - high caste Hindus could sleep with their wives whenever they wanted to, etc. If Indo-Pak Islamic elites were bad, the erstwhile Hindu elites were much worse -- and its all an integral part of Hinduism to boot, whereas true Islam is against it all. Therefore, cleave to the truth of Islam, which is the lucky gift that came with those bad marauding elites.

The same Hassan Nisaar also toes the familiar Paki line of encouraging Punjabi cross-border love, especially with Sikhs. Recently he moderated an episode interviewing Khalistani Sikhs who had gathered in Lahore to protest.

In another episode, the same Hassan Nisaar also said he feels Bengalis were rather strange people, and Pakis should not be sorry about 1971 because there isn't anything in common - he says even the smell in the dorm rooms of old Bengali classmates was different from the smell in his room, thus proving that the two had no business being part of the same nation in the first place. So much for the man's intelligence and vision.

One can go on and on. And now Hassan Nisaar has been effusive about Imran Khan as the saviour. So anyone who thinks Hassan Nisaar is great also thinks Imran Khan is a wonderful thing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Prem » 21 Nov 2012 05:21

Carl ji,
Poaqer Tey Vishwas na Keejey
Chahe,
Lakkha Kasma Khave Hooo!!!
Inna , Minna Jaa Jinna Pawwki
Subb BDY Kahay Hoooo!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Agnimitra » 21 Nov 2012 05:24

Jhujar wrote:Carl ji,
Poaqer Tey Vishwas na Keejey
Chahe,
Lakkha Kasma Khave Hooo!!!
Inna , Minna Jaa Jinna Pawwki
Subb BDY Kahay Hoooo!!

:lol: Elahi Ameen

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby shiv » 21 Nov 2012 05:55

Of course one explanation for the peaceful politicization of Shitpiece Saeed is US patronage. The opposite explanation is also possible. By denying his involvement in terror and by pulling him into politics the ISI/PS/Islamists are protecting the people they have been asked to fight. Once he becomes a legitimate politician, no one can touch him.

One scenario envisages supreme US power and ability to manipulate Pakistan. The other envisages US impotence vis a vis Pakistan. The same event can mean either.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby kshatriya » 21 Nov 2012 08:12

Kasab gets his 72 ! Shocked that they did it !

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby sum » 21 Nov 2012 08:19

^^ Woah...when did GoI grow a pair??

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby svenkat » 21 Nov 2012 08:24

Congratulations to GOI for the superb,professional way in which they handled Kasab.Justice Done.Sure a long way still to Aabpara/Rawalpindi.But a magnificient,professional way in which every ounce of life/leverage has been extracted from Kasab while alive.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 08:27

^Agreed. Justice was not only done but also seen to be done by the rest of the world.

It would be interesting to watch the reaction from Pakistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Anujan » 21 Nov 2012 08:28

Kasab was given a very competent lawyer. His lawyers did their constitutional duty and donated their fees to charity. Ujjwal Nikam proved his case without any doubt.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby krisna » 21 Nov 2012 08:36

good riddance. let him rot in hell *&^%%

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby arun » 21 Nov 2012 08:42

kshatriya wrote:Kasab gets his 72 ! Shocked that they did it !


Mohammadden terrorist holding the citizenship of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has indeed been executed. Good riddance to bad rubbish:

Breaking News: Kasab executed in Pune's Yerwada jail in secret

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Mihaylo » 21 Nov 2012 08:50

Since, pukes have always claimed that Ajmal was a hindu terrorist, he should be cremated as per his religious requirements.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Anujan » 21 Nov 2012 09:01

We should also remember ASI Tukaram Omble who braved bullets to catch this scum alive.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Anujan » 21 Nov 2012 09:04

SSridhar wrote:In a veiled snub, India cancels Malik's visit
Though senior Ministry of Home Affairs officials said the busy schedule of Union Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde, who is also the Leader of the House in Lok Sabha, ahead of Parliament’s winter session was the main reason behind the decision, sources in the government pointed out that Pakistan’s reluctance to punish those responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks was behind this veiled snub. Significantly, the proposed visit would have been close to the fourth anniversary of the 26/11 attack. As a result, India was not keen on hosting Mr. Malik as it could have given the Opposition more ammunition to target the Congress-led UPA government, the sources said.


The highlighted portion simply cannot be the reason. Pakistan could not have been expected to punish the 26/11 terrorists within 8 days (between November 12 when Shinde met Malik and agreed to his visit and today) when it has been dragging its feet for over 3 years now. Again, the fourth anniversary of 26/11 has not suddenly loomed over the horizon.

The real reason is that Shinde was taken in by the fraudulent offer of voice samples by Rehman Malik and he fell for the trap and later when the Pakistani reluctance and inability was known, Shinde knew he had been taken for a ride by the wily Malik. Hence this turnaround.

But, this will only be temporary. The Master will force the issue and Malik will insist to the Master on visiting India to operationalize the visa regime. Master will demand that India does not delay this crucial issue over a petty matter, India will agree and the visit will take place in December. All fine and dandy.

The voice samples issue will thus be closed permanently.


India was also probably protecting Rehman Malik's "sensitivities" by postponing his visit. We would not want to embarrass our Pakistani guests by hanging their fellow countryman during their visit, would we?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby abhijitm » 21 Nov 2012 09:16

72 virgin bulls up there finally got their due. Enjoy guys.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby svenkat » 21 Nov 2012 09:23

We should also remember ASI Tukaram Omble who braved bullets to catch this scum alive.



With gratitude and respect.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Charlie » 21 Nov 2012 09:37

Respect to the Great Indian Hero Ashok Chakra Tukaram Omble

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Anujan » 21 Nov 2012 09:39

Apparently Pakistan refused to accept the letter informing Pakistan of Kasab's hanging.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby abhijitm » 21 Nov 2012 09:43

^ TSPA is keepinmg up with their tradition of not recognising their soldiers.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby shiv » 21 Nov 2012 09:46

Get this basturd next. He should be eliminated in Pakistan by covert action.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 10:06

Anujan wrote:India was also probably protecting Rehman Malik's "sensitivities" by postponing his visit. We would not want to embarrass our Pakistani guests by hanging their fellow countryman during their visit, would we?

Agree.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 10:09

svenkat wrote:
We should also remember ASI Tukaram Omble who braved bullets to catch this scum alive.

With gratitude and respect.

Absolutely.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 10:13

PA & Professor saheb will now demand that Pakistan execute an Indian in retaliatiion. He would bring enormous pressure on Zardari by depicting him as an Indian agent if he doesn't do so. Elections are coming there. GoI will have to bring to bear greater pressure on Zardari to stop such a thing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby shiv » 21 Nov 2012 10:17

SSridhar wrote:PA & Professor saheb will now demand that Pakistan execute an Indian in retaliatiion. He would bring enormous pressure on Zardari by depicting him as an Indian agent if he doesn't do so. Elections are coming there. GoI will have to bring to bear greater pressure on Zardari to stop such a thing.


Well that will only help move things in the right direction by showing how the Paki government is controlled by the Lashkar e Toiba rather than the Aman kissasses pretence that Hafiz Saeed is different from the Pakistan that needs power, cricket, visas, railway engines and refined petroleum produucts.

Allah should control Pakistan and everyone should know that India is a kafir country.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby Prem » 21 Nov 2012 10:27

Its Paki day Todin

Making him Kandam by Impalement would have been better for this and Hoor world !! He could only watch but not enjoy 72.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby RCase » 21 Nov 2012 10:42

Jannat had to put an expedite order for 72 virgins! :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 10:43

Jhujar wrote:Its Paki day Todin

:rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby abhijitm » 21 Nov 2012 10:56

SSridhar wrote:PA & Professor saheb will now demand that Pakistan execute an Indian in retaliatiion. He would bring enormous pressure on Zardari by depicting him as an Indian agent if he doesn't do so. Elections are coming there. GoI will have to bring to bear greater pressure on Zardari to stop such a thing.

but SSridhar he was supposed to die in the hands of kafir anyway. Pakis will try to distant themselves as much as possible.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Oct 4 2012

Postby SSridhar » 21 Nov 2012 10:57

Edit in DT
One may wonder why an openly right-wing, jihadi supporting politician would be considered fair game by the terrorists. He openly supports them when he blames foreign forces for their attacks and does not oppose the fundamentalist ideology of the militants. It is here one would like to remind all that the terrorists have been waging a war against the original father of the militant mujahideen and Taliban — the military. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has been attacking our security forces for years now so bloodily and frequently that it seems hard to believe that the military once fully supported these monsters. The JI has been the mother of the early mujahideen especially those belonging to Gulbuddin Hekmatyar’s faction. However, if the many attacks against the security forces, today’s attack against Qazi Hussain and other recent attacks against right wing politician Fazlur Rehman of the JUI-F are anything to go by, a clear pattern emerges: that the militants are diverging from their original intended targets and are taking their jihad to all, even their erstwhile supporters. They are warring against the security forces because of their commitment in the war against terror and are now targeting even extreme right wing politicians who may have originally supported them because, in the end, these politicians do stand for the continuation of democracy — a process considered anti-Islamic by the militants. It is time that people like Qazi Hussain and those of his ilk, including Mr Imran Khan, accept that the days of supporting the militants and being a Taliban apologist are over.


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