anupmisra wrote:RajeshA wrote:Pakis suffer all the time. It is not as if for ordinary Pakis, there are rivers of mead flowing. There is of course scope for them to suffer a bit more....
True. Not a bit more but to make the pakis suffer extreme pains, do you want Indians to suffer along with them? Why not bide your time, plan a concerted attack on their financial, economic and civic systems, on their very idea of their being, their lifelines....? The pakis have so many open defenses, too many fault-lines to list. Pick the top ten. No one outside the land of mlecchas like the inhabitants of that toilet complex. They are shunned everywhere. However, everybody including the eyerainians and the chinese are biding their time, using them like throw-away tools. They wouldn't want to have India upset their applecarts just yet.
I, too, want retribution. But the middle-aged in me counsels patience. Must be because of being in the rough and tumble world of real estate in NY. My timing is more long-term and the desired results will be more viscious and permanent.
There is a saying in Hindi - Saanp bhi mar jayay aur lathi bhi na tootey. Be the vulture. Patience.
I have absolutely nothing against the long game. But the long game is simply not being played.
I believe our difference in perspective on this issue arises from perhaps a different perception of who we are pitted against. There are of course many support networks that Pakistan plugs into - Anglo-American, Chinese, Saudis, etc. That may be so, but when we look at it that way, we are still looking at different quarters helping Pakistan, bolstering it against India. We also believe that when the 3½ friends of Pakistan have a parting of ways with Pakistan and the Pakistani deep state starts failing, our problems would become lesser, as the resources that Pakistan has as its beck and call decrease. We have hope that when the resources decrease, they would become more inward looking, or perhaps make peace with us, as we may remain their only means of aid.
There is some substance to such speculation, of course.
However in this perspective we concentrate too much on the Pakistani Army tree and forget the Islamist forest. When the Pakistani Army loses its unity, it would start getting poached by other Jihadist groups, and the strength of the Jihadis lies in brainwashing and motivating jihadists. They are networked everywhere in the world, and the whole network supports the endeavors of some group to subjugate the Kufr. Moreover as we have seen in Libya and Syria, by becoming agents of change of status-quo, agents of regime changes, they manage to receive monetary, material and tactical aid from Anglo-Americans as well.
So if tomorrow Pakistani Army were to capsize and be routed completely, it would not really change a thing for us. The enmity would remain, their agenda would remain, their methods would remain or become more brutal, their connections and support base across the world would remain.
If one considers the whole Islamic forest to be the threat to us, than we have to learn how it ticks, and knowing how Pakistani Army ticks is only a very small part of that.