Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 15 Jan 2013 13:38

Till now this long march has been a total Yawn onlee...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 13:46

Pak aims to develop smaller, lighter nuke warheads
Expanding its nuclear arsenal at a rapid pace, Pakistan is now aiming to develop smaller and lighter atomic warheads more suitable for use on missiles, the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientist has said.

Pakistan is expected to surpass Britain's nuclear stockpiles in a decade, the journal said, referring to the rapid development of nuclear warheads by Islamabad.

"Pakistan has shown clear signs of its intention to grow its nuclear arsenal. Most recently, the country has begun to increase its plutonium production capabilities, with two new plutonium production reactors under construction, as well as a new chemical reprocessing facility," the journal said.

"The country's increased interest in plutonium demonstrates its likely goal to develop smaller, lighter warheads more suitable for use on missiles. In 2011, Nuclear Notebook reported that, in the next decade, Pakistan's arsenal could grow larger than that of Britain's," it said.

According to the journal, the global nuclear stockpile stands at roughly 19,000 nuclear weapons -- the nuclear-armed states account for an estimated 420 of those weapons, while the nuclear weapon states have the rest.

"With stocks of fissile material sufficient for an arsenal of up to 200 nuclear warheads, Israel may have the largest stockpile among the nuclear-armed states, while both India and Pakistan each have around 100 warheads," it said.

"Today, these three countries have the largest arsenals they have ever had. This growth trend among key nuclear-armed states stands in stark contrast to Britain, which, with an estimated 225 warheads, has the smallest arsenal of the nuclear weapon states; its arsenal peaked between 1975 and 1980 with 520 warheads," it said.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Aditya_V » 15 Jan 2013 13:48

Looks like ur only hope is pakis nukes end up somewhere else otherwise they are bound to be used against India. this appessement will not work with them.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JE Menon » 15 Jan 2013 14:19

Well it depends. Certainly India will be the primary target. Let's say I, as a saffron brigadier, consider that an impossibility because well Pak nukes will selectively kill only Hindus - as the Pak leadership wants the world to believe too. But consider an escalation in West Asia, whether on the Iranian front, or the Israeli Front; is it so inconceivable that the Pakistani weapons, especially if they are getting lighter and optimised, and more numerous, would find their way into the hands of another friendly country fighting the same Islamic cause but without the Islamic bomb? Will all the big European powers, Israel, the US, believe what the Pakistani leadership want them to believe?

The game is different now. Entirely. And physics is physics.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby chaanakya » 15 Jan 2013 14:21

SSridhar wrote:I am listening to Qadri's speech in Islamabad. He is an Islamist propped up by the TSPA. All doubts are gone.


he reminded me of Amrish Puri in Moogamo Khus hua of in Mr India. Kya Nautankit hai. Wah Wah . Dus percenti is shivering. KisaNahi is laughing all the way to power. BTW he was due for retirement.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JE Menon » 15 Jan 2013 14:28

Yup, in a few months IIRC...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby abhijitm » 15 Jan 2013 14:32

Kayani is up for the presidency, I think.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby shiv » 15 Jan 2013 14:44

SSridhar wrote:I am listening to Qadri's speech in Islamabad. He is an Islamist propped up by the TSPA. All doubts are gone.

Yes it does look like that.

But the bugger is speaking in English and Times Now thinks that he's a wildly popular cleric.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 14:50

news coming in of court orders to arrest rental raja.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby r_subramanian » 15 Jan 2013 14:50

Rental power case: SC orders arrest of PM Ashraf
The Supreme Court ordered the arrest of Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf in the Rental Power Plants case on Monday, reported Express News.
The court also ordered all other respondents in the case to be arrested.
PM Ashraf was given the title of Raja Rental after he was accused of receiving kickbacks in the rental power projects. He was also accused of buying property in London from money earned through corruption in various scams.
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link: http://tribune.com.pk/story/494267/rent ... pm-ashraf/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Aditya_V » 15 Jan 2013 14:52

You mean Rental :rotfl: Raja going to be arrested for Rental Power theft. :rotfl:

Got to luv the Pakis, when we create a title for a Paki, they make sure he lives up to the name.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 15 Jan 2013 15:03

r_subramanian wrote:Rental power case: SC orders arrest of PM Ashraf
link: http://tribune.com.pk/story/494267/rent ... pm-ashraf/

Just what was needed amid the Qadri circus :D
It looks like Judiciary has joined hands with the army to bring this Govt down!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 15:12

This is about postponement of elections. Wasn't Qadri too talking about that?
The vaccum will be filled by the PA. Who knows, they may install Qadri, the leader of popular uprising against the corrupt politicians.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby chaanakya » 15 Jan 2013 15:16

Aditya_V wrote:You mean Rental :rotfl: Raja going to be arrested for Rental Power theft. :rotfl:

Got to luv the Pakis, when we create a title for a Paki, they make sure he lives up to the name.

Now I understand why he was called Rental Raja. He lived up to his name.
Next may be Dus percenti.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby RajeshA » 15 Jan 2013 15:17

Is Im the Dim still in the race?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Yogi_G » 15 Jan 2013 15:18

news reports speculating Zardari's departure to Dubai.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 15 Jan 2013 15:20

RajeshA wrote:Is Im the Dim still in the race?


Info from an army hack

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 15:22

Isn't this the guy who talked about "change in narrative in tomorrow's papers" referring to the recent LoC events. Pravin Swamy's Chindu article was that game changer.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 15:23

After reading about SC order of Rental Raja's arrest and the above spate of news, I could not control laughing.

Just about 3 hours back I said that this government was already making a tall claim as though it was the first in Pakistan's history to complete the term while two more months still remained and here is a bombshell.

Pakistan is the weirdest, wildest and funniest monkey country that probably ever existed on planet Earth. Even when we are angry and sad after the LoC incident, Pakistan never fails to make us laugh through its antics.

And, there was a Pakistani man in TimesNow channel yesterday warning India that geostrategic situation has turned so much in favour of Pakistan that India would be crushed like a cockroach. Are these Pakistanis getting paid by TimesNow and is that the reason they come for such discussions ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 15 Jan 2013 15:26

SSridhar wrote:Pakistan is the weirdest, wildest and funniest monkey country that probably ever existed on planet Earth. Even when we are angry and sad after the LoC incident, Pakistan never fails to make us laugh through its antics.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 15:30

Thanks, Partha.

Sometimes, you have to pinch yourself to make sure that it is all for real. No Pakistani PM has ever completed his/her term, even a truncated term !!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 15:34

SSridhar wrote:Are these Pakistanis getting paid by TimesNow and is that the reason they come for such discussions ?

All channels pay. In fact, there was somebody (a paki IIRC) who complained to barkha on twitter a few days ago about his outstanding dues and she responded by "I'll look into it" type of reply.
About penalists Does have a lot of OT stuff wrt this thread.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 15:47

Pukistan says "not many applications for VOA". So, the scheme is off from their side.
Just a while ago my father said, "let me go and visit my village across the border" !! He does not have a passport and I was going to suggest him to apply for one.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 15:49

kenop, thanks for the info & the link. Wonderful.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 15:50

kenop wrote:Pukistan says "not many applications for VOA". So, the scheme is off from their side.

But, GoI may not cancel from our side. After all, aren't we the bigger and more generous brother with the sole responsibility to protect Pakistani democracy, especially at this critical situation ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 15:53

SSridhar wrote:
kenop wrote:Pukistan says "not many applications for VOA". So, the scheme is off from their side.

But, GoI may not cancel from our side. After all, aren't we the bigger and more generous brother with the sole responsibility to protect Pakistani democracy, especially at this critical situation ?

That was based on a ticker of a news channel.
More details are coming in. It is actually off from Indian side at least, from the quotes MHA

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Yogi_G » 15 Jan 2013 16:09

After the coloured revolutions in Central/Eastern Europe, the Arab Spring in desert lands, is it time now for "South Asia". Is this a movement propped up by the sole super power installing favourable regimes all across the world, is this another thrust in the great game by the Islamists around the world, is this a Paki army funded by Saudi money movement to put the existing supposedly civilian govt in its place?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 16:11

The fair question to be asked (and answered) is why is it taking such a long time for him to be arrested ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Aditya_V » 15 Jan 2013 16:16

Well if this a revolution, every other revolution like Syria etc has been bloody, why these bloodless revolutions in TSP. The same % of displaced and dead in Syria/Afgan can happen to Pakis

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 15 Jan 2013 16:18

It is a revolving door in Pukistand. Army or army backed group will come to power this time.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 15 Jan 2013 16:48

Sphinx No 2 has finally spoken.

No business-as-usual with Pakistan after jawans' killings: MMS
"It cannot be business as usual" with Pakistan, he told reporters on the sidelines of an Army function. "What has happened is unacceptable," he added

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Philip » 15 Jan 2013 17:11

Enter the Dragoon!

The arrival out of nowhere,Pak's jack-in-the-box cleric ,Qadri ,is not happenstance.It is a move on the chessboard by the manipulators and would-be puppet masters of the subcontinent who sit at Langley and Pindi.With elections due in Pak in the near future and the hopes of the PPP that another scion of the Bhutto clan will hopefully lead them to victory,the "Vulture".Gen. Kill-any has at last shown his hand.Kill-any is determined to succeed the Zardar as president of Pak and re-establish the military's full control over the nation..But how can he manipulate the pieces on the board to achieve his goal? The current events in Pak and on the border are all linked and a retrospective must be made to see through this "fog of peace".

The Paki army was in the sh*thouse after the extermination of Osama Bin laden.That he was under the protection of the Paki army establishment was clear to all with his hideout being just a few hundred yards from a major Paki military establishment.The repeated drone attacks picking off anti-US taliban,etc., was the spear up the Paki military's backside,shafting it time and time again for its duplicity towards its most generous patron.Eventually the Paki military and the Yanquis came to a deal as the need of Obama to flee Af_Pak with his tail between his legs asap,could only be done with the acquiescence and assistance of the Paki army and ISI.So this deal was made in hell,whereby the Paki army would be allowed by the Yanquis to take control of Pak yet again and play Yankee Doodle on the bagpipes as the US left Afghanistan! It would be open season again for the Pakis as far as India was concerned,so that more pressure could be put upon an unwilling India to engage with Pak on Paki and US terms.

The immediate need however has been to unseat the Zardar-disgrace him and his regime,hence the SC's shafting of the new PM on the charges of corruption.Simultaneously to lead the fight for a new regime,pro-military,has been the advent of Pak's Khomeini,another cleric who living in the west-but who espouses a pro-western Paki state (see how he just corrected his grammatical mistake when he said "I stand before this parliamentary house.......parliament house") ,showing his Freudian obeisance to perfect English grammar,much appreciated in western quarters! This "great white hope" is the latest magician's trick being brought out of the hat at the opportune time,coinciding with unrest and chaos in Pak,the manipulated SC verdict on the PM, and tension on the border too,which has been the personal handiwork of the Vulture. Gen. Kill-any now has put his pieces in motion to unseat the Zardar,using a triple attack against the Zardar and his cronies,from the judiciary,Qadri "the great white hope" and the military manipulating the security situ.If the military wanted it could swiftly cut the cleric down to size-as was done with Bibi Bhutto.She was simply swatted aside by Gen.Bandicoot's hired killers and the evidence swept away within minutes of her murder! Here we have the cleric praising the military to the skies!

India must now prepare itself for a very dangerous period ahead with the Vulture calling the shots who now has a western trained rabid cleric to shout and shoot at India rousing the populace when the time comes.The retreat of the US from Afghanistan is going to see a twin attack strategy by the pakis ,aimed both at the Karzai regime through the Taliban and against India through the Paki army.India's attention will once again be brought to bear upon its western borders while it was just showing the correct strategy in preparing to deal with the threat from the east,China,Pak's chief supplier of nuclear and missile capability.

PS:MMS has finally "broken wind",but the sh*t hit the fan days ago!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Narad » 15 Jan 2013 17:25

Arrahu Akbal !!!

India puts on hold visa-on-arrival for Paki senior citizens.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 032698.cms

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Aditya_V » 15 Jan 2013 17:37

I hope now Paki Corp COmmander or Brig level person embraces martyrdom to Kaffir Smerch/Pinaka/Artrillery piece. Only then will these sub humans realise Beheading yoru enemy especially when you claim to be in peace talks with them be unacceptable.
Either declare war or Honour peace agreements.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby chaanakya » 15 Jan 2013 17:40

RajeshA wrote:Is Im the Dim still in the race?

You asked for it.

Im the Dim is back with demands

Fresh Election
Backs qadri, no force against him
Zadari should resign

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Brad Goodman » 15 Jan 2013 17:42

idk if this should be here or in benis dhaga

Ban the burning tire


wish other protestors would realise that the burning of tires releases a toxic soup of pollutants into the air, which are extremely harmful both for the protestors and those living in the area. Hundreds of different toxic pollutants are created by burning tires, including a large number of small particles that settle deep into the lungs. Children, fetuses, nursing babies, the elderly, asthmatics and immune suppressed individuals are all much more vulnerable to these pollutants. The small particulates released by burning tires worsen asthma.

Tires are not designed to be burned and contain hazardous ingredients, which are suspected human carcinogens. In fact, the burning of tires releases Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPs). These are toxic substances composed of organic (carbon-based) chemical compounds and mixtures. POPs include industrial chemicals like PCBs and pesticides like DDT and are primarily products or by-products from industrial processes, chemical manufacturing and resulting wastes. The existence of POPs is relatively recent, dating to industrial production after the 2nd World War.

They are long-living chemicals that build up in the food chain and slowly poison animals and humans. POPs tend to accumulate and magnify in the fatty tissues of living beings. They are also semi-volatile, which means that they can stay on the ground for a number of years and then be transported hundreds of miles away and be deposited in another place until they eventually end up in animals and humans.



come on few months back a paki met his 72 burning a flag

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Neela » 15 Jan 2013 17:43

Narad wrote:Arrahu Akbal !!!

India puts on hold visa-on-arrival for Paki senior citizens.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 032698.cms



Arrahu Akbal right back to you my brother!
All nine Pakistani players for Hockey India League to return home

Mahmood Rashid was the most expensive of the Pakistani players with a price of $41,000 (approx Rs 22.32 lakh) while Tousiq went for $27,000 in the auction.

Hopefully the starred clauses in small print in the contracts kicks in!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby RajeshA » 15 Jan 2013 17:52

Neela wrote:Arrahu Akbal right back to you my brother!
All nine Pakistani players for Hockey India League to return home

Mahmood Rashid was the most expensive of the Pakistani players with a price of $41,000 (approx Rs 22.32 lakh) while Tousiq went for $27,000 in the auction.

Hopefully the starred clauses in small print in the contracts kicks in!

I on the other hand hope that there are no such starred clauses. The Pakis should get their full fees.

At least after that the HIL and IPL would be more wary of inviting Pakis to play in India. It becomes a risky proposition.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Brad Goodman » 15 Jan 2013 17:57

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2013_pg5_9

Rupee dips by 36%, joins club of worst performing currencies


Just checked it is at 97.35 for USD.


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