Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jan 2013 17:43

Elecetion Commission of Pakistan approves India-like electoral reforms
The Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) approved on Thursday electoral reforms ahead of the upcoming general elections, empowering itself in a manner similar to their Indian counterparts, DawnNews reported.

The decision was taken at a meeting of the commission held here on Thursday, a DawnNews report said.

According to the approved reforms, the entire government machinery would come under the authority of the Election Commission once the election schedule is announced.

Another clause in the reforms also empowers the commission with administrative authority with the announcement of the election schedule.

Moreover, the commission would be allowed to make transfers and postings of high ranking officials including IGs, secretaries and chief secretaries.

Sources said the motive behind these reforms is to ensure transparency of the upcoming general elections, which the Chief Election Commissioner had termed crucial.

It is pertinent to mention that the election commission in neighbouring India gets all administrative powers with the announcement of election schedule, a power that the Pakistani election commission never had before.

‘Balance’ sybmol

In the same meeting, the ECP had finally resolved between two political parties when it allocated an election symbol of ‘balance’ (tarazoo) to Jamaat-i-Islami (JI).

Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf and the JI were seeking “balance “ as their election symbol. The ECP had formed a three member bench to address the matter.

The ECP sources said that former cricketer turned politician Imran Khan could be assigned a cricket bat or ball as an election symbol.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jan 2013 17:45

Pakistan Committed to Granting MFN Status to India: Foreign office
Pakistan is committed to its stance of granting the ‘Most Favoured Nation’ (MFN) status to India, a spokesman for the foreign office said on Thursday.

During a weekly briefing in Islamabad, Foreign Office spokesman Moazzam Ali Khan said that Pakistan hopes for better trade relations with India and will continue its efforts for normalisation of trade relations with the neighbouring country.

Khan said that Pakistan wishes to resolve all issues with India through dialogue, and urged that both countries should opt for bilateral talks to remove any reservations.

Speaking about statements by Indian government officials regarding Hindu terrorist organisations, the spokesman hoped that firm steps would be taken in light of the statements.

Moreover, Khan expressed the hope that India would soon complete its investigation of the Samjhauta Express tragedy, and that it would bring to book the perpetrators of the crime.


The spokesman also reiterated Pakistan’s stance on US drone strikes on its territory, calling them unlawful and a breach of the country’s sovereignty.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Hiten » 24 Jan 2013 18:08

in the aftermath of the 26-11 attack, a serving pakistani General IIRC had referred to the TTP in benign terms, and had said they could be reconciled with or something to that effect

can't recollect the general's name or the term he'd used to refer. Would be very nice if someone could tell what it was.

Unsure though, although most likely, it was in the aftermath of 26-11. But the guy was definitely a serving officer.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 24 Jan 2013 18:30

Hiten, there have been quite a few such positive references of the jihadists by various serving Army officers.

Specifically, after 26/11, Mullah Fazlullah and Baitullah Mehsud announced that they would fight alongside Pakistan's armed forces in case of an India-Pakistan war. It was ISI Chief, Lt. Gen. Shuja Pasha who told a group of Pakistani & foreign journalists in a briefing (reported by Hamid Mir and Syed Saleem Shehzad independently) “We have no big issues with the militants in Fata. We have only some misunderstandings with Baitullah Mehsud and Fazlullah. These misunderstandings could be removed through dialogue.” He then went on to call them 'strategic assets'.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 24 Jan 2013 18:51

Plan to boost Pukistan as cricket destination for the world
Pakistan offers insurance worth $2 mn to foreign cricketers
The head of Pakistan's cricket board on Thursday offered foreign players insurance worth $2 million and up to $100,000 tax free income in a bid to lure them to join the troubled country's new Twenty20 league. The world professional cricketers' union has warned players against taking part in the Pakistan Super League (PSL), due to start in March, because of the "unmanageable" security risk.

Fauji Insurance Corporation is looking forward to increasing the shareholder value.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sum » 24 Jan 2013 19:11

Aman ki Asha in full flow:

NGOs demand action for Indian's death in Pak jail

Chhamel Singh, 40, died in Lahore'’s JinnahHospital after being mercilessly thrashed by authorities in the city's Kot Lakhpat Rai Jail.

According to reports, Singh was beaten up following a small tiff related to the washing of clothes under a water tap inside the jail on January 15. Human rights activists in Pakistan have accused the jail authorities of violating the basic rights of jail inmates. Singh was washing his clothes under a water tap to which jail staffers objected.

They reportedly made derogatory remarks against Indian nationals, saying they were dirty and spread dirt in the jail also.

When Singh objected to this racial remark, he was mercilessly thrashed and later died,
said Tehseen Khan, a human right activist who is heading an non-governmental organisation called Jesus Rescues.

Khan said he witnessed the incident in the jail, as he was teaching inmates as part of the ongoing reforms process. Lahore’s largest jail houses many Indian nationals, including Sarabjit Singh, who has been lodged there for the last 21 years.

"I saw the whole scene myself. It was tragic. Singh was thrashed mercilessly and then taken to the hospital. Action must be taken against the erring officials," said Khan.

Meanwhile, Indian inmates have expressed their resentment against the jail authorities. They have refused to succumb to the pressure tactics of the authorities to give in writing that Singh was not thrashed, but had severely injured himself after following down from a height inside the premises.

Praveen Swami can now write a article saying how some grandmother thrashing a Paki 1 year back some near LoC was the cause for this action!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Sagar G » 24 Jan 2013 19:28

Tehseen Khan, a human right activist who is heading an non-governmental organisation called Jesus Rescues.


The situation is very ironical I guess.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby AbhiJ » 24 Jan 2013 19:56

Another Pappi Jhapi Orgy with WKKs

The Common Capital of India and Pakistan

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Hiten » 24 Jan 2013 20:00

thank you SSridhar Sir. Unsure if I had him in mind when asking the Question. This one is even better given that the ISI is how PA controls terror outfits
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Shuklaji's latest column, quite jarring.
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Col. Hariharan - Comments on Pakistan Army's actions in J &K
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/node/1129

Media bytes on developments in India-Pakistan relations
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/node/1139

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 24 Jan 2013 22:45

Headley got 35 years.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Narad » 24 Jan 2013 22:56

twin blast in krachis landi area. 4 meet their 72.

www.dunyanews.tv/index.php/en/Pakistan/ ... chi-blasts
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby RamaY » 24 Jan 2013 22:57

AbhiJ wrote:Another Pappi Jhapi Orgy with WKKs

The Common Capital of India and Pakistan


I liked this comment
I wonder why this brotherhood is sold to Pakistanis and Indians? Why not first Pakistanis make friendship and brotherhood with Afghans, Iranians, Iraqis, Saudi Arabians etc and make a common capital in Mecca?

After all we all are muslims first and it is our religious duty to become one Ummah!

Why are our priorities mixed? Why are we so interested in peace with Hindustan before we make peace among ourselves and our Ummah brothers?

I think this article is an attempt at mixed priorities and unnecessary comparisons. What next? We all have two eyes, one nose and two years so let us make a democratic front with monkeys?

No wonder, Pakistan is being misguided by such self-declared peace prophets.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby ramana » 24 Jan 2013 23:16

Anujan wrote:Headley got 35 years.



Anything to keep him out of Indian hands.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby member_22872 » 24 Jan 2013 23:31

Headley got 35 years.

What are the charges this time? he tried to kill Danish cartoonist too?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 24 Jan 2013 23:32

Apparently his defence was that he was re reading some scriptures he had misinterpreted.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JohnTitor » 25 Jan 2013 00:17

ramana wrote:
Anujan wrote:Headley got 35 years.



Anything to keep him out of Indian hands.


Actually, I think its better that hes in a US prison than in an Indian one. If he were in India, he'd probably be released and be free to be sickular and do some more hindu bashing.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kish » 25 Jan 2013 00:29

Shonu wrote:
ramana wrote:

Anything to keep him out of Indian hands.


Actually, I think its better that hes in a US prison than in an Indian one. If he were in India, he'd probably be released and be free to be sickular and do some more hindu bashing.


Plus, Tax payers money would be spent for his security in jail.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby member_22872 » 25 Jan 2013 00:39

Plus, Mahesh Butt, Pooja Butt, her brother and all the closet Paki artist lovers will make sure he is comfortable and will complain in B.Dutta programme, how inhumanely we treat him, he is not guilty until proven guilty.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby RamaY » 25 Jan 2013 02:59

How simple we have become. All we need is simple solutions, the less the responsibility the better.

What about a simple fact that a crime committed against india should be tried in Indian courts and the culprit is punished as per Indian law?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby ramana » 25 Jan 2013 03:14

Also don't forget Ram Gopal Varma making anotehr movie with him in the lead.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 25 Jan 2013 03:33

Sixty Nine(69) cities face suspension of cellular phone services today
Pakistan Ka Mazhab Kya Hai

ISLAMABAD: In line with the government’s security plan for Eid Milad-un-Nabi (Prophet Mohammad pbuh birthday), mobile phone services will be suspended in around 69 cities and towns of the country on Friday, DawnNews reported.
( Fryday too)On the directives of interior ministry, Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) will enforce the suspension of all cellular phone companies from 8 am till 6 pm on Jan 25.According to sources in PTA, 18 districts of Punjab, one each in Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and seven districts in Sindh will face the blockage.The major cities where the service will be blocked include Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Quetta, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, Multan, Sargodha, Bahawalpur and Hyderabad.Earlier, Federal Interior Minister Rehman Malik had said the provincial governments requested the federal government for the suspension of mobile phone services.Meanwhile, pillion riding will also be banned in some parts of the country on the occasion of 12th Rabi-ul-Awwal.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby ramana » 25 Jan 2013 03:37

IOW, a return to Mohammed's times on his birthday!

Guess they need Bilal to communicate instead of cell phones.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 25 Jan 2013 03:38

US foreign policy more than troops and drones: Kerry

Kerry TO Sherry,Get ready to Merry,LOt of Money I Will Carry

WASHINGTON: American foreign policy is more than just drones and troops, Senator John Kerry pledged on Thursday, as he outlined to US lawmakers his priorities if they back him as the next secretary of state.“American foreign policy is not defined by drones and deployments alone,” he told the Senate Foreign Relations committee, sitting across from the committee which he has been a member of for 29 years, and which he has also chaired.“American foreign policy is also defined by food security and energy security, humanitarian assistance, the fight against disease and the push for development, as much as it is by any single counter terrorism initiative.”Kerry has been tapped by President Barack Obama to take over from Hillary Clinton, who is leaving office after a four-year term.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Cosmo_R » 25 Jan 2013 03:44

ramana wrote:Also don't forget Ram Gopal Varma making anotehr movie with him in the lead.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilasrao_Deshmukh

"In the aftermath of the November 2008 Mumbai attacks, following controversy over taking his actor son Riteish Deshmukh and director Ram Gopal Verma to the Taj Mahal Hotel, where the attacks took place, he took the moral responsibility and offered to resign, which was then accepted by the party.The BJP leader of the opposition Sudhir Mungantiwar criticised him saying: "He has misused his position when he took Ram Gopal Varma to the Taj (Mahal Palace & Tower Hotel) after the terror attack"

The 'netas' have led the way in desensitizing us. The Taj scene of VD & son talking about making a movie is itself a bizarre scene out of a film noir. He resigned but he also came back. Same as the one or more of the idiot Patil bros (RR?) who said "It is to be expected in a large city like Mumbai". It's like saying the Lions have a right to pick off the weakest of the herd. Triage in its rawest form.

BTW Headley is better held in a US prison where he won't ask/get biryani as Kasab did. But in the showers he will get a mouthful of something quite different.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sadhana » 25 Jan 2013 05:18

Pliss to take bets on how soon John Kerry will mention Cashmere after he becomes SoS?

My guess : the day after :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 25 Jan 2013 07:12

sadhana wrote:Pliss to take bets on how soon John Kerry will mention Cashmere after he becomes SoS?
My guess : the day after :roll:


The moment is attached to his Belt and Zipper providing access to Pakistan for daily Pakistani purpose.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Charlie » 25 Jan 2013 07:58

Superb must read piece on CRI by Vinod Sharma

ISI plotting with Congress for 2014 Victory

Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde’s outrageous allegation that “BJP and RSS conduct terror camps to spread terrorism” is not a shot in the dark. Made at Jaipur in the presence of Sonia Gandhi and Manmohan Singh, it has not only not been disowned by them, but has actually been backed by External Affairs Minister Salman Khurshid who says it was based “entirely on facts.”

The timing and import of this political assault are significant.

In the first reported incident of Pakistani barbarism after 26/11, two Indian soldiers patrolling on the Indian side of the LOC were beheaded by Pakistani troops on 07 Jan, 2012. The head of one of them was taken away and bodies of both were mutilated. The news went viral on social media and led to a spontaneous outrage and righteous outcry across the country for suitable retaliation.

Surprisingly, Salman Khurshid, in his first reaction, said he was not going to be “pressurised by any wild calls for revenge” as India has made a “huge investment in the peace process.” This was followed by Praveen Swami’s mischievous report in The Hindu, where he not only blamed the Indian Army for initiating the ongoing LOC violations but also alleged that it too had beheaded two Pakistani soldiers in 2012. Mysteriously, Pakistani journalist Wajahat S. Khan, who took a very aggressive Pro-Pakistan stance and made preposterous allegations on Barkha Dutt’s show on NDTV, knew about Swami’s piece – he called it “a narrative changer” – well before it was published.

Fortunately, in the face of continued public outrage, and after the Prime Minister was belatedly briefed by Army Chief Bikram Singh, India toughened its stand and took a few damage-control steps like sending back Pakistani Hockey players and artistes, and putting on hold the disastrous visa-on-arrival agreement etc. The Prime Minister too said, rightly, that there could not be business as usual with Pakistan.

Suddenly, all the gains that Pakistan had extracted after and despite 26/11, without conceding anything in return as always, are beginning to evaporate, and the situation is back to where Pakistan and the Congress party do not want it to be. Both have made “huge investments” since 2009, but Pakistan’s de facto rulers, the men in uniform, have made them in keeping with their hostile strategic objectives in mind, — as many Pakistani panelists on TV reminded us — while India’s myopic and avaricious rulers have put electoral prospects of Congress ahead of and above India’s national interests.

When the Congress party did better than even it expected during the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, among the many theories doing the rounds was one that was whispered but not openly articulated, the evidence then being not solid enough to substantiate it. As per this conspiracy theory, the ISI had a role to play in the victory of the Congress and defeat of the BJP. This was based on the following :

The Congress has lost its core dalit vote in UP to Mayawati and Yadav vote to Mulayam Yadav. It also no longer has any core vote among remaining Hindus, who remain vulnerable to advances of the BJP. Due to this fundamental weakness, Congress needs Muslim votes to survive and win. A Congress government will, therefore, per force be very soft towards the activities of the banned Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI) and the Indian Mujahideen (IM); this will give them much needed time and space to expand their influence and multiply their hit capability, to be activated at the right time.
The Congress will also turn a blind eye to ISI’s efforts to radicalise Indian Muslims and fan Muslim separatism, both necessary to achieve the long term objective of turning the whole of India into an Islamic state through a thousand cuts.
A BJP government is most likely to react militarily to another 26/11 type of attack. After the terror attack on Parliament in 2001, the then BJP government had given the go-ahead for launching a military offensive that was called off at the very last minute, thanks to the intervention of the US. The Congress, on the other hand, made a bit of noise and did nothing after 26/11. In future too it will try its best to avoid precipitating a crisis, no matter how grave the provocation, having been convinced by Pakistan-friendly elements within that it will cost it Muslim votes.
In support of this theory, the following facts were cited at that time:

There has not been a single terror attack, big or small, since 26/11. This is because the ISI ordered all such attacks to be put on hold at least till the elections to ensure that no floating Hindu votes get diverted to the BJP.

Compared to 2004, the Congress has gained around 6% vote share. But in UP, where the Muslim population is large, the party has gained a huge 10% compared to the Assembly elections in 2007, when it got just 8.56% of the votes. The fact that the only other party to gain vote share in the state since 2007 is the BJP, although by only 0.57%, while the SP and BSP have lost around 2% and 3% respectively, is conclusive evidence that Muslims have shifted to the Congress in huge numbers. Hindus, on the other hand, have not gravitated towards the BJP.
This tectonic shift in the Muslim vote to the Congress in UP has taken place virtually unnoticed. This could not have happened on its own. There was obviously a concerted effort by influential and powerful extremist elements and possibly some fundamentalist religious leaders to keep this development under wraps to prevent any reverse polarisation of Hindu votes in favour of the BJP, because had that happened, this shift of the Muslim vote would have got negated.
The success that the Congress party achieved, manifestly led its strategists to believe that all that it needs to do to retain power in Delhi is to get Muslims to vote for it en bloc again. The Hindu vote, splintered along every fault line possible, cannot pose any challenge to it, as long as hatred and revulsion can be generated and sustained among enough Hindus for the BJP and RSS. Caste based ‘Hindu’ parties and regional outfits can easily be made to fall in line and make up the shortfall in seats, if any.

The ‘heavy investment’ in the peace process with Pakistan and the relentless attacks on the Sangh parivar flow directly from this ‘Unite Muslims, divide Hindus’ mantra adopted by the Congress to minimise the negative electoral impact of its dismal performance and monumental corruption over the last nine years.

That is why ISI, LeT, SIMI, IM and other umbrella terror outfits have been virtually removed from public mind with the help of an obliging media and the candle brigade that either do not talk about them or do so in manner that makes them look benign, even wronged. They have also got into overdrive about the common culture, language and ethnicity – the sameness — of the people of India and Pakistan, (South Asia for bubble gum kids) and the great love they have for each other. All this also helps make the case that giving more and more concessions to Pakistan — itself a victim of terror, they say — is in India’s supreme national interest.

On the flip side, Indians are being told ad nauseum that a vast majority of ordinary Pakistanis are secular and want to have very close relations with their Indian brothers, but – this is critical – their wishes are not being fulfilled primarily because the BJP and RSS are poisoning the atmosphere in India. The almost total silence about the many Pak-sponsored terror attacks that have killed thousands of Indians is being matched by the almost daily front-paging of leaks about four bomb blasts allegedly carried out a few years back – the last was in 2007 – by a handful of misguided Hindu extremists, in reaction to Pak-sponsored attacks. Conveniently ignored is the fact that almost all of them are in prison and no one has yet been convicted, and that earlier the LeT was blamed for most of these attacks.

The picture, thus, that has been photoshopped and rammed, very systematically and deliberately, is that of Hindu terror happening now, a terror that poses a real, present and growing danger to India and Indian Muslims. The BJP and RSS, we are not allowed to forget for even a minute, are the only enemies that Indians need to worry about: India’s real war is not against friendly brother Pakistan or Islamist terror groups promoted and supported by that country, but against Hindu/saffron terror deliberately spawned by the Sangh. That even Rahul Gandhi has been led to believe this nonsense is a telling indication of how deep the reach of elements inimical to India is.

In fact, under the garb of fighting BJP and RSS politically, communal elements in Sonia Gandhi’s all-powerful kitchen cabinet, the NAC, have gone the whole hog and unleashed a war on all Hindus. The draconian Communal Violence Bill, approved with alacrity by her but not yet enacted, has in one stroke, achieved what a thousand terror attacks cannot. The Hindu has been virtually declared The Terrorist in his own country and subject to draconian provisions of law that even terrorists who blast innocent people are not. He cannot speak, he cannot write — much less do — anything that can be construed as offensive by a member of a minority community. Worse, even democratically elected governments, where Hindus are in majority, have been declared untrustworthy; unelected bodies in which minorities will be in majority are going to decide whether the Hindu is guilty or not. His voice has, thus, been throttled and his spirit, his freedom killed far more effectively by Mrs Gandhi than the ISI could even have dreamt.

Why has there been no major Pak-sponsored terror attack since 26/11? The answer, to my mind, is simple. When the Indian government has taken upon itself to unwittingly further the agenda of the ISI, where is the need for the Pakistani establishment to resort to active terror that will inflame passions and undo such good work prematurely? But when you ingrain soldiers — in uniform and out — with violent hatred for your enemy, you have to periodically whet their appetite for blood. Talk doesn’t work for them; their oxygen is wanton, brutal violence.

The barbaric beheading and mutilation of two Indian soldiers in Indian territory, despite a cease fire being in place, may have excited Kiyani, Hafiz Saeed and their men, but it has upset the proverbial apple cart of the Congress. The grand old party that led India to freedom has, tragically, so completely put its eggs in the minority basket that, ironically, the only Indians left to oppose it electorally are, honourable exceptions apart, Hindus. If they get together, Congress has simply no hope. It is mortally afraid of their rage.

That is why Shinde and Khurshid have launched a new attack on BJP and RSS. They do not want Hindus enraged by yet another Pakistani assault on their country and their sensibilities, to rise and punish Congress for not punishing Pakistan, by voting for BJP. Their attention has to be deflected from Pakistan’s hostility and barbarism, and Congress’ treachery. They have to be made to see in BJP the enemy that Pakistan is, the Devil’s Alternative that they must not vote for.

This Goebbelsian refrain is Congress’ lifeline. It is, equally, BJP’s death warrant. And it is the opening that a much smaller and weaker Pakistan needs, to win the existential war that it senses it is finally beginning to win. So far, the BJP has shown little interest and imagination in taking on this threat by shaming the Congress and educating and awakening the voters. Its leaders – the same old story – are more keen on defeating each other than in saving their party, indeed the country. Will they, will we, learn?


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby habal » 25 Jan 2013 08:29

No wonder then that N. K. Narayanan didn't pick up his phone when he was sought to be informed about 26/11 initial events, because he well knew what was about to happen, but he couldn't do jack about it. He was busy partying at some club.

IA should take the initiative and launch strikes at TSP before elections, so that votes on this side can be consolidated. It is the loaded statement that the 'strike back will be at a time of our choosing' that must be exercised. It is also the opportunity of Bikram Singh to have his Musharraf moment. After all both were undeservingly promoted by superceding many other eligible & far senior contenders. They can serve their just desserts to their benefactors.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Satya_anveshi » 25 Jan 2013 09:55

per yawn, there is no cell phone service in shitland today. So, today may be a boring fridin for some. :evil: but one can never say.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 25 Jan 2013 10:05

There is a very perceptive piece by vikram sood , where he points out that long term success of India and long term failure of Pakistan will be when the subcontinent Muslims realize they are safer and better off in India than Pakistan.

That is why you have things like mush come over and tell Indian Muslims how bad it is for them and things like that buffoon interviewing gulzar telling him how bad Muslims have it in India. The ruling party for some reason seems to be hand in glove with the pakis to portray as though Muslims in India are having it as bad as they have it in Pakistan. Hence equating sectarian terror in Pakistan with imagined Hindu terrorists in India.

They are cooperating in equal equal itis and this cannot be by accident. At these times is when I miss PVNR. he was truly out to destroy the dynasty and Pakistan. read what APJ has said about him today.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sum » 25 Jan 2013 10:31

At these times is when I miss PVNR. he was truly out to destroy the dynasty and Pakistan. read what APJ has said about him today.

Any maybe thats why he got destroyed so brutally?

Sadly, w.r.t TSP, things will only go downhill ( in terms of Indian interests vis-a-vis TSP) if another UPA-xx comes to power in 2014.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 25 Jan 2013 10:33

Kerry is a known paki sympathizer and India hater.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 25 Jan 2013 10:52

Charlie wrote:Superb must read piece on CRI by Vinod Sharma
ISI plotting with Congress for 2014 Victory
There has not been a single terror attack, big or small, since 26/11. This is because the ISI ordered all such attacks to be put on hold at least till the elections to ensure that no floating Hindu votes get diverted to the BJP.

Whatever may be the merit or otherwise of the above article, the bolded part above is simply not true. From my earlier post (in September) in the TSP thread,
Less than two months back, there were serial bomb blasts in Pune and much fatalities, maiming and damage were averted because of pure luck: rain and a failed electronic circuitry. In July 2011, the most sought after target in India, Mumbai, was rocked once again by three serial bomb blasts that killed over two dozen people and maimed 150. In December 2010, the Sankat Mochan temple was bombed and a toddler was killed. In February 2010, the Best bakery in Pune was bombed again killing a dozen and injuring over 50. Yet another attack was exactly a year ago to this day at the Delhi High Court which killed a dozen people and injured over 70. How quickly we have forgotten all these ! May be, we no longer classify such attacks where the fatalities are less than a hundred, as terror attacks. In that case, I have to agree with the WKKs and their friends. May be we have grown accustomed to these attacks, in which case too, I have to agree with the WKKs and their blind supporters. Otherwise, not even the most imbecile idiot would claim that the terror attacks have been successfully staved off through Indian diplomacy.

These are cases which happened. We don't know how many attempts were nipped by the intel agencies. All these were not by aliens, but our friends from across the border. Even as I write, we are aware of a Pakistani spy being caught from the most improbable place, Thanjavur. He was carrying out his activities through Sri Lanka which is increasingly and alarmingly becoming a conduit for Pakistani terror into India. The Best bakery bomber learnt bomb-making in Sri Lanka under a Pakistani guru. So, the pearl of strings not only applies to the Chinese attempt to strangulate us but also to Pakistani terror outfits.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sum » 25 Jan 2013 10:59

11:00 MEA bars two Pak diplomats from Jaipur Litfest:

The government has prevented two Pakistani diplomats from attending the ongoing Jaipur literary festival. Media reports quoted Union Home Ministry sources, as saying that it was not in favour of allowing the two Pakistani diplomats -- Manzoor Memon and Naeem Anwar -- to visit Jaipur on Thursday as the Ministry of External Affairs had not given them the requisite approval.

Manzoor Memon heads the media wing of Pakistani High Commission, while Naeem Anwar is Minister (Trade).

Must have been ISI folks trying to meet up with some of their "friends" in the liberal community which counter-intel/IB must have detected

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Aditya_V » 25 Jan 2013 11:02

I think what is happening just like the left and INC etc many Indians think BJP-RSS is the main Enemy. Many Right Indians think if INC is eliminated Pakis will automatically corrected and all INC is bad and in the process lost focus on Pakistan.

The truth is many in INC also know what Pakistan is upto and good work has been done in Security apparatus etc.

Pakistan might be talking peace and using INC statements but its actions on the ground and attitude has never changed.

today unfortunately we have a split nation due to our media sheenigans, Right hates INC more than Pakistan and INC/ LEft/ Secular supporters see Pakistan incl. Army and ISI as friends and BJP-RSS as the Enemy.

I just hope we correct ourselves from this path.

What Indians must we vary off is Pakis at this time are definitely planning something, its been a long time since Zaveri Bazaar and Pune bakery. THier hunger will not be satisfied, we must ever more vigilant with no complacency.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Comer » 25 Jan 2013 12:52

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/john-ke ... QI1AL-WqtB
“Our folks were able to cooperate on the ground in Pakistan,” Kerry said during his first hearing about his nomination to replace Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State. “That’s one of the ways we were able to get Osama bin Laden. I don’t think the Pakistanis have frankly gotten credit, sufficiently, for the fact that they were helpful. It was their permissiveness in allowing our people to be there that helped us to be able to tie the knots that focused on that. To some degree — not exclusively, obviously, but to some degree.”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JohnTitor » 25 Jan 2013 13:14

RamaY wrote:How simple we have become. All we need is simple solutions, the less the responsibility the better.

What about a simple fact that a crime committed against india should be tried in Indian courts and the culprit is punished as per Indian law?

I do not think it is just that. I think people would rather accept some justice than none (or very little) at all. While your second statement of being tried and punished in India is something I agree with, it is not something that will happen.

How long was kasab kept on death row. For a crime that he committed and was caught red handed. Yet the Indian justice system entertained his silly moves. When Bhopal tragedy occured Warren Anderson was allowed to walk scott free by the then congi govt. The parliament attacker afzal is still on "death row" - no doubt enjoying his biryani and making demands. Lets first deal with the criminals we have, then we can worry about trying those outside India.

I just noticed something, the same thoughts and feelings are being expressed by many people. Please have a look at the comments.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 25 Jan 2013 14:34

Pakistan facing both external and internal threats: CJCSC - DT
The armed forces of Pakistan are prepared to defend country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, said Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee General Kahlid Shamim Wynne on Thursday.

The CJCSC was visiting the ongoing ‘Exercise Saffron Bandit 2012-13’ at an operational base of the Pakistan Air Force. Chief of Air Staff Tahir Rafique Butt also participated in the exercise.

General Wynne said the prevailing complex global geo-political environment and regional situation is not only unique but also more challenging, since Pakistan faces both internal and external threats. “Readiness and war preparedness have attained enhanced significance in the current scenario. PAF is a potent and frontline element of the national security and, through the highest levels of professionalism, it will always come up to the expectations of the nation,” he said

The CJCSC also flew in an AEW&C Aircraft to observe the complexities of aerial warfare and the professional handling and employment of integrated air and ground combat elements by the aircrew.

While interacting with the participants after flying the mission, General Wynne said the Exercise Saffron Bandit serves well for enhancing war preparedness in the hi-tech scenario of aerial warfare. “It is heartening to see PAF stepping into the future with its newly acquired capabilities and emerging concepts of employment.”

Earlier, on arrival the CJCSC was received by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt. He was given a comprehensive briefing on the Exercise Saffron Bandit 2012-13.

Exercise Saffron Bandit is a triennial command level exercise conducted in PAF since 1994. A sequel of five exercises has been conducted so far while sixth exercise is in progress. This time where modern capabilities of PAF are operating under one umbrella for the first time, Pak Army Aviation and Army Air Defence are also deployed for undertaking the exercise.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Philip » 25 Jan 2013 15:18

Of course the ISI and Paki uniformed sh*ts want a Congress/UPA victory. There could be no better leadership of India for them than snake-oil Singh and his Italian "capo",Donna Sonia.The castratti leaders of the Congress are so paralysed with inaction against pak,that that terrorist entity is having a field day with the arch-perpetrator of 26/11,Hafiz Syed giving a "good conduct" certificate to India's shameless Home Minister! To add insult to injury,his castratti chorus keep braying his tune in support,doing untold damage to India's fight against Paki terrorism.

It is ironic that such a travesty should occur around the B'day of one of India;s greatest patriots,Netaji,who if alive today would certainly launch a revolution against the Cong/UPA quislings.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 25 Jan 2013 15:26

Role of Maulaner Masood Azhar in British jihad.

http://www.hurstpublishers.com/maulana- ... ish-jihad/

Shows how much the yahoos have penetrated Britain and how little the govt there did.


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