Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Sri · Post by **Sri** » 30 Jan 2013 17:19

sum wrote:
Speaking on condition of anonymity, the scientist said that during the Kargil crisis of May-July 1999, Musharraf, who was then army chief, “wanted to deploy Ghauri missiles, but air went out of his balloon when the top general in charge of the missile program told him the missile had a faulty guidance system.”

Reads like true BENIS material....v

If only someone from inside TSP confirms what we have known about nook-nude stuff also.

Additional headache for drdo intercept system team. No one knows the actual trajectory onlee.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Jan 2013 17:23

Sri wrote:Additional headache for drdo intercept system team. No one knows the actual trajectory onlee.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 30 Jan 2013 17:24

kenop wrote:With a cigarette dangling from his lips too. Or was that another occasion?

No, that was the same occasion.

James B · Post by **James B** » 30 Jan 2013 17:30

Sri wrote:
Additional headache for drdo intercept system team. No one knows the actual trajectory onlee.

Or this could happen

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 30 Jan 2013 18:09

Sanku wrote:
Baikul wrote: She spoke of on instance in which junior officers in a PA felt free to hug and salute their Colonel. As an IA brat I never once saw that happening, but my father retired more than 20 years ago.
If some one tries that even in todays IA, he better have a good excuse, such as having come down alive after single handedly winning Tiger hill AND drinking a bottle of old monk to celebrate it, he is other wise likely to feel warmer on Siachen without winter kit on 14th January.

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 30 Jan 2013 19:07

As per news X tv report, citing intel officials, the cowardly beheading of indian soldier was plannrd and executed by ISI.

An ambush was laid under subedar jabbar of isi. Anwar, a local guide of rawalkote area carried out the beheading.

Anwar rewarded rs 5 lacs by ISI. It was a meticulosly planned op.

habal · Post by **habal** » 30 Jan 2013 19:09

I can't understand why Shah Rukh is repeatedly calling himself a 'Pathan' this & that. He is related from his father's side to the late Gama Pehalwan, who was a gujjar punjabi before partition. His father just translocated to Peshawar, unless all those who live in NWFP or borders consider themselves Pootan, don't understand the criteria with which he just gave himself this promotion or demotion, depending on from which side of the fence you look at it. Aren't pathans divided into ghilzai or durrani clans and various sub-tribes. Shahrukh doesn't belong to any of these unlessh he is constantly massaging his ego.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Jan 2013 19:15

habal wrote:I can't understand why Shah Rukh is repeatedly calling himself a 'Pathan' this & that. He is related from his father's side to the late Gama Pehalwan, who was a gujjar punjabi before partition. His father just translocated to Peshawar, unless all those who live in NWFP or borders consider themselves Pootan, don't understand the criteria with which he just gave himself this promotion or demotion, depending on from which side of the fence you look at it. Aren't pathans divided into ghilzai or durrani clans and various sub-tribes. Shahrukh doesn't belong to any of these unlessh he is constantly massaging his ego.

SRK is in show biz and the Pathan label is right at the top of the food chain in "South Asia" for manhood and sex-appeal!

habal · Post by **habal** » 30 Jan 2013 19:36

Problem is everybody in Peshawar knows that he and his family are 'guests'. Just pashto speakers, and not ethnic pushtuns.

habal · Post by **habal** » 30 Jan 2013 19:41

Narad wrote:As per news X tv report, citing intel officials, the cowardly beheading of indian soldier was plannrd and executed by ISI.

An ambush was laid under subedar jabbar of isi. Anwar, a local guide of rawalkote area carried out the beheading.

Anwar rewarded rs 5 lacs by ISI. It was a meticulosly planned op.

Subedar & Jamadar, these are the only guys left in Pakistan who can behead goats & animals.

the Afghans regularly behead Paki Army subedars, jamadars, and their commanders in cross border raids in FATA. How about the Jernails themselves come across and do some beheading in person. Or are they too soft for that these days & afraid of getting their balls chopped off when UNMOGIP is not looking. Anyways, the Afghans were right on how cowardly the Pakistanis are and continue to lop their heads off with gay abandon.

AbhiJ · Post by **AbhiJ** » 30 Jan 2013 20:20

RajeshA wrote:
habal wrote:I can't understand why Shah Rukh is repeatedly calling himself a 'Pathan' this & that. He is related from his father's side to the late Gama Pehalwan, who was a gujjar punjabi before partition. His father just translocated to Peshawar, unless all those who live in NWFP or borders consider themselves Pootan, don't understand the criteria with which he just gave himself this promotion or demotion, depending on from which side of the fence you look at it. Aren't pathans divided into ghilzai or durrani clans and various sub-tribes. Shahrukh doesn't belong to any of these unlessh he is constantly massaging his ego.
SRK is in show biz and the Pathan label is right at the top of the food chain in "South Asia" for manhood and sex-appeal!

Why doesn't he live in Pathanwadi, Malad?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 30 Jan 2013 20:45

Sri wrote:Additional headache for drdo intercept system team. No one knows the actual trajectory onlee.

imagine their plan to start a space program is to mount satellite in place of warhead and point missile to the sky.

...and of course then search the satellite.

saip · Post by **saip** » 30 Jan 2013 20:51

This is the Nov 28,2012 test where they claim 'Pakistan succesfully test-fires Hatf-V Ghauri missile: ISPR'

Link

Broken parts that rained down in Sindh!

Link to broken parts

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 30 Jan 2013 21:06

DocJi, I would not dispute that economic conditions are roughly the same across "South Asia". I was refering to TSP's treatment of minorities. Surely you would agree that India is in a different leauge and it is the height of gall for TSP to lecture India. And in the case of SRK, you know how he is treated as a demi God by millions and DDM in India. There is simply no comparison.

I know you may not like analogy with US. If you leave aside the BS propaganda that CNN/VOA etc dole out to the rest of the world, just a a few months stay in US, and watching US media for a few hours in between will show how entrenched white nationalism is in this country. Thus if a black celebrty were to make the kind of comments SRK made about made to a foreign magazine, and even truthful ones at that for e.g., how he is treated by conservative whites or how his father was brutalized during cvil rights movement etc he would be be pillioried, and he would have become a pauper in a heart beat. Michelle Obama once said that she was not proud of some some aspects of her country's past, man, she was bludgeoned, so much so, she had to hit airwaves and proclaim America's greatness round the clock.

So thats what we are talking about. Low lives like Rehman Mallik and Hafeez Saeed and other Pakis hectoring India and goading the faithful. At his level, SRK must come out and denoucne Rehman Mallik and Hafeez pig, not some wishy washy statement about "my comments being misunderstood", and I love India crap after the row has erupted. He needs to shut TSP up, and India must demand that. But I am not holding my breath.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 30 Jan 2013 21:15

CRamS wrote:Michelle Obama once said that she was not proud of some some aspects of her country's past, man, she was bludgeoned, so much so, she had to hit airwaves and proclaim America's greatness round the clock.

Her husband had a lot riding but there is more than enough anti-Whitism among black celebrities, especially in the Rap scene!

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 30 Jan 2013 21:19

Do we have a list of NPAs and their articles, that "certify" that paki program is more advanced than Indias? Will make even more fun reading after the jernail's memoirs

Amazing there are still lots of Chuck Yeagers eager to take baki's crumpled Nodongs and shove it up their backsides....

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 30 Jan 2013 22:44

Now it is even more important to stack anti missile system across Indian borders lest some debris come over and fall on unsuspecting Indian villagers. Not just across the border from baki but also across the marine borders, and even ship mounted anti-missile defense system is needed perhaps to counter this dangerous situation.

lakshmikanth · Post by **lakshmikanth** » 30 Jan 2013 22:57

Considering Bakis have fitted their own "Four Father" Seekers on their red tipped noDongs, one has to wonder whether the missile will land in Iran, Turkey, Russian Steppes, or Saudi Arabia. It is important that these countries "erect" their own missile defenses.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 30 Jan 2013 23:47

India seems to have a policy of not commenting on Pakistan`s technological 'achievement'. I am sure India knows more about the performance of their missiles than do Pakistanis (given their long range radars, space based assets and excellent relations with the US and Russia).

It might be better to disabuse the adoring Islamic masses of some cherished illusions, delusions actually.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 31 Jan 2013 00:09

James B wrote:Japan Times: North Korea’s missiles tied to Musharraf's Kargil blunder
But he ridicules the assertion that Musharraf wanted to return them over their faulty guidance system, saying, “What difference does it make if a nuclear-tipped missile falls 1 km left or right of the predetermined impact point?”

Exactly.

He went on to state "What difference does it make if the missile fell all over 100s of sq kms around the "pre-determined point"?"

We really need to have a compilation of khanlander articles on the "advanced paki mijjile program, compared to India's rudimentary one", as well as DDMs that faithfully copied them.

The NoKo satellite launch vehicle is going to make its appearance in pakland soon, since army H&D is at its ebb and it is a low hanging-fruit to buy one or two of those using JohnKerry Change. Khan also will be happy at the civilian aspect of such a launch.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 31 Jan 2013 02:04

hnair wrote:
James B wrote:Japan Times: North Korea’s missiles tied to Musharraf's Kargil blunder
But he ridicules the assertion that Musharraf wanted to return them over their faulty guidance system, saying, “What difference does it make if a nuclear-tipped missile falls 1 km left or right of the predetermined impact point?”
Exactly. He went on to state "What difference does it make if the missile fell all over 100s of sq kms around the "pre-determined point"?"

We really need to have a compilation of khanlander articles on the "advanced paki mijjile program, compared to India's rudimentary one", as well as DDMs that faithfully copied them.

The NoKo satellite launch vehicle is going to make its appearance in pakland soon, since army H&D is at its ebb and it is a low hanging-fruit to buy one or two of those using JohnKerry Change. Khan also will be happy at the civilian aspect of such a launch.

I feel that this is a Trojan, it is now evident that Indian has made substantial progres in PAD and BMD systems, now our WKK groups and Aman ki tamasha combined with NPAytollahs will try to put brakes in further developments of advanced systems.

SO wath out for Prafool and bhadrakumar like jokers writing in THE CHINDU and Toilet out lets how money can be used for upliftment of down troden etc

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jan 2013 02:11

Pentiah, You could be right. Its a Trojan to rein in Indian programs.

Recall Japan counts for half a father of TSP.

kish · Post by **kish** » 31 Jan 2013 02:21

hnair wrote: Exactly. He went on to state "What difference does it make if the missile fell all over 100s of sq kms around the "pre-determined point"?"

We really need to have a compilation of khanlander articles on the "advanced paki mijjile program, compared to India's rudimentary one", as well as DDMs that faithfully copied them.

The NoKo satellite launch vehicle is going to make its appearance in pakland soon, since army H&D is at its ebb and it is a low hanging-fruit to buy one or two of those using JohnKerry Change. Khan also will be happy at the civilian aspect of such a launch.

Sadly

, the last NoKo satellite launch was way off target too. Like pakis, NoKo called it a success. Damn, these failed states have a different "measure of success".

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 31 Jan 2013 02:26

Now Pakistani Websites is the source for our University textbooks, such is Aman ki Asha. Looks deaf and dumb is the source for our elites. pathetic.

Mumbai varsity course text has material from Pakistani defence site

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 31 Jan 2013 02:27

If Trojan, why japan newspaper? if Japan News Paper is Chosen, then seems like uncle is a part of it. if not a Trojan, NK gets it's tech from China, so these failures means China gave NK tech that doesn't work or their guidance systems are like that onlee?

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 31 Jan 2013 02:31

Sri wrote: Additional headache for drdo intercept system team. No one knows the actual trajectory onlee.

The funniest thing is one missile went farther and landed in eye-ran. Imagine a bum planned for Kolkata lands Dhakka.

pentaiah · Post by **pentaiah** » 31 Jan 2013 02:35

Japan was one the loudest voice against 1998 Shakti tests and cheer leader against Nuke deal, and Japn is one of the biggest donor to TSP

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 31 Jan 2013 02:50

Japan's fears of India's advances in Nuke tech seem to be misplaced or misguided, given that TSP and NK are thick as thieves, given the history of nuke black mailing, missile tech proliferation by both TSP and NoKo, fearing India and funding TSP and planting stories in it's new papers to blunt any more Indian missile tech advancements seems to undermine it's own security. No idea they are this dumb.

paramu · Post by **paramu** » 31 Jan 2013 02:52

Once Japan was showed the missile details of the NK nodong they have kept quite.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Jan 2013 03:31

SSridhar wrote:So, it is in a range between 1:2 to 1:10 depending on the purity levels (otherwise, height of the shalwar above the ankles and the length of the unkempt beard which must certainly be more than four fingers).
AoA.
PS: The Daughter of the East, BB, unilaterally changed it to 1:100 for TSPians against the kafir Hindus.

Well, Well, Jeehad is not permitted if the enemy strength is twice that of true believers and we know Paki are not even believers as they are 90 Kufr practicing grave worrship, singing and dancing.
Abb Terra Kya Hoga Pakiya ?
Soutjh Asia Ka Namak Khatte ho
Orr Gungaan Aerbo ke Gatte HO ? (Ho as in Amrikhan slang)

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 31 Jan 2013 03:46

This could be just jernail on jernail action of the Vivid entertainment type. Mushy seem to be the "bottom" as is the case nowadays.

(But that praveen swamy article sounds like something straight from khan's box of trojans and durex. The truthy feel of the "facts"....)

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 31 Jan 2013 03:59

Aditya_V wrote:Now Pakistani Websites is the source for our University textbooks, such is Aman ki Asha. Looks deaf and dumb is the source for our elites. pathetic.

Mumbai varsity course text has material from Pakistani defence site

And the author Prof. Vaz claims innocence and will correct in next edition!!!

IOW he doesn't know where his sources comes from and he is Prof!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 31 Jan 2013 04:48

pentaiah wrote:Japan was one the loudest voice against 1998 Shakti tests and cheer leader against Nuke deal, and Japn is one of the biggest donor to TSP

Hearing that during the fukushima fcukup, they were forced to use a lot of nuclear grade welders from India, one because they did not have enough and second because a lot of those available refused to work in the radiation hazard zone. That's the toyota way!!

So much for these guys.

Suraj · Post by **Suraj** » 31 Jan 2013 04:54

India vs Japan in 1998 is a world apart from today.

In 1998, Japan did not face the dynamic it does today. Back then, it was not even one decade into stagnant growth. It still saw the funk of the 1990s as just a lull that would go away 'soon', with the zenith of the late 1980s economic ascendancy to resume. PRC was neither in WTO, nor a significant economic or security concern. India was even smaller economically than PRC and far less integrated into the trading world then. DPRK was a sleepy hermit kingdom where Kim Jong Il was still trying to fit into his recently dead dad's shoes.

In 2013, Japan is still in the same economic mire, which shows no sign of going away. Its population is in decline. A lot of its manufacturing base has been outsourced to PRC, which now has a GDP larger than Japan's in absolute dollars. Even India has a larger GDP than Japan in PPP terms now. PRC has been rattling sabers around Japan for the last several years. Japan has trillions in accumulated wealth it needs an effective investment sink for because its own aging population doesn't generate sufficient returns, and PRC is no longer geopolitically safe for them. They hold $1 trillion in US govt securities but earn a pittance in return from that, thanks to record low rates.

They may seek to throw some bones to TSP to keep them quiet and ensure Japanese interests are not hurt, but there's no country that can really serve to address their economic an security interests in the long term besides India.

Japan's opposition to India's weaponization is a function of their own threat perceptions. The more bellicose PRC gets, the more receptive to Indian arms buildup they get. If Unkil even hints as a drawdown in the US nuclear umbrella, Japan will go completely silent about Indian's nuclear program, and probably invoke an Israel-like policy as they build their own nuclear arsenal to deter PRC.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 31 Jan 2013 04:59

SSridhar wrote:
Baikul wrote:MacDonald spoke of how PA officers were so much more outspoken and 'easier' around their seniors than their IA counterparts. She spoke of on instance in which junior officers in a PA felt free to hug and salute their Colonel.
There was a photo of the then Kamandu General standing next to the Prime Minister, Nawaz Sharif, and testing a pistol casually.

Remember TFT saying in such gup that kammandu pointed the gun at nawaz who asked who the kammandu was gunning for.

It is also mentioned in the book "Pakistan in the eye of the storm".

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Jan 2013 05:23

Pakistan approves Gwadar port transfer to China
Yawn

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday approved a deal transferring from Singapore to China the management of the strategically located deep-sea Gwadar port on the Arabian Sea.China provided about 75 per cent of the initial $250 million in funding for the construction of the port in Pakistan’s southwestern province of Balochistan.It is currently being operated by Singapore’s PSA International, but needs further development work to become fully operational. According to PSA’s Gwadar website, there has been no ship in the port since November.“The cabinet today gave approval to transfer Gwadar port operations from Port of Singapore to Chinese Overseas Port Holdings Limited,” Information Minister Qoomar Zaman Kaira told reporters.“Both the companies have settled their deal,” he said, without giving a timetable for the transfer.Kaira said that Singapore’s PSA International could not develop or operate Gwadar “as desired” and said he hoped that under new management the port would soon contribute to Pakistan’s flagging economy.“The Chinese will make more investment to make the project operational,” Kaira said.China, one of Pakistan’s closest allies and its main arms supplier, has also funded ports in Sri Lanka and has been approached to help build a port in Bangladesh.Pakistan’s former defence minister Ahmad Mukhtar said in May 2011 that China had agreed to take over port operations at Gwadar.He also said Islamabad would be “more grateful to the Chinese government if a naval base was being constructed at the site of Gwadar for Pakistan”. At the time, China’s foreign ministry said it was unaware of any such request.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 31 Jan 2013 05:38

Pakistan's battle against polio (inoculations)
Pakistani policeman protecting polio workers shot dead, and another polio vaccinator attacked with axe

Gunmen on motorbikes killed a police officer protecting polio workers during a UN-backed vaccination campaign in a north-western village.

The attack took place as dozens of health workers – including several women – were going door-to-door to vaccinate children in Gullu Dheri in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, a police spokesman said. None of the health workers were hurt.

Elsewhere in the north-west, a man wounded a polio worker, Mohammed Mumtaz, with an axe. Mr Mumtaz was marking houses in Machi village to indicate where vaccinations had been administered. The attacker became irate after his door was marked and swung the axe at Mr Mumtaz, injuring him on his left arm.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 31 Jan 2013 05:42

ramana wrote:
IOW he doesn't know where his sources comes from and he is Prof!

He doesn't know how he became prof either.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Jan 2013 05:44

Haram Ailaan Paigam Of Khan To Poaqam

US won’t repeat 1989 mistakes: Olson

ISLAMABAD: The US ambassador in Pakistan Richard Olson has assured that his country will not repeat mistakes it made in 1989 while withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan.
Richard was addressing at the Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad on "the United States' relationship with Pakistan and Afghanistan, now and beyond the 2014 security transition."
Olson said, "even as we work with Pakistan to ensure that 2014 is not a repeat of 1989, we are not myopically focused on December 2014. Instead, we continue to look over the horizon. We see a Pakistan and a region that will continue to grow in importance.""2014 is not 1989," he said adding, "The United States recognizes the mistakes of the past, and will not disengage from the region."The US relationship with Pakistan is not shaped solely by US's commitments and responsibilities in Afghanistan, he said.The ambassador called for the United States and Pakistan to work together with purpose to facilitate a negotiated peace in Afghanistan. "For the sake of Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the region, Pakistan's full support to an Afghan-led, Afghan-owned peace process is needed now," he added.
The US ambassador commenting on the forthcoming general elections in the country said it is a historic and defining moment for Pakistan, when, for the first time, one civilian government transfers power to the next in accordance with the constitution, and reflecting the will of the Pakistani people.
Moreover, Ambassador Olson also underscored that US assistance to Pakistan in energy, economic development, education, and health is a tangible sign of the United States' long-term investment in Pakistan's future.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 31 Jan 2013 05:51

Capital talk on Geo news - Lt. Gen. (R) Shahid Aziz
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