Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby AbhiJ » 05 Feb 2013 23:50

shiv wrote:No one killed today in shitland? No soosai? wtf. No bombs? No attack on military targets? Bad day.


18 Pakjabis Die

Nature kills 18 Pakjabis for Killing and Torturing Balochis.

Roof collapses and electrocution alone have left more than a dozen people dead

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 05 Feb 2013 23:56

Coexistence with India
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Pakistan’s new army doctrine comes as good news for all who wish us well as a nation. For the first time in 65 years the army has shifted its focus from the eastern border to our internal enemy in the northwest. Let us hope it does not mean hands free for a crackdown on the Baloch, an issue that needs a political solution while harder military measures may result in deeper tragedies. Although, the army spokesman assured our lions and eagles that we shall keep India as our enemy no.1, yet the admission that the enemy within is more dangerous at the moment, may well prove to be a turning point in our history. Facts and events of our history have shown that this mindset of pathological narcissism, of self-righteous self-love breeds a hundred tragedies till the society falls into paranoia and starts hurting itself and everything around it. What our army and government have now decided to fight is a threat not only to Pakistan but to the entire region’s peace. We have to combat that mindset and the forces that promote it, if we wish to survive as a state and society, whatever the amount of effort it may need, however painful the sacrifices it may demand. We cannot afford to fail, because such failure can empower nations of the region to intervene, exposing our land of anarchy to immense bloodshed and misery.
Unfortunately, the enemy within is the product of our obscure ambitions since 1947. It is of critical importance for us to understand why and how our establishment fed this monster for decades. We, the people, must know the truth if we wish to survive and grow.

The dominant classes of Pakistan that demanded separation from the rest of India in 1947 were mainly the same who had ruled India under different Muslim dynasties. They were the landed aristocracy, “pirs” and ulema of different levels. They lost power to the British, but never gave up their claim over India. Some Muslims who served the British as civil servants and the army men also joined to share the ambition for power. Being small in number these groups, even with the support of the entire Muslim population of India could not hope to dominate a huge Indian population in a democratic system. Therefore, they aroused the Muslim masses to support their demand for a separate homeland, appealing to their religious pride and fear of persecution. Congress leaders and a large number of Muslims who chose to live as Indian citizens all exerted each nerve to show our Muslim league leadership that a religious approach to politics in a world of diverse religions and people will initiate disaster but the highly aroused fears of persecution decided our course; our self-image as a special community prevailed.Shah Waliullah invited Abdali in that same capacity of a down-to-earth, power sharing priest. This same formula created the present day kingdom of Saud where a tribal chief and a holy man struck a deal. Almost a similar deal created Pakistan where Quaid-e-Azam seems to have been just a brilliant lawyer whose job ended soon after the partition.ndependence comes as jubilation to a nation. But in 1947 it came with tragedies of separation and bloodshed to the subcontinent. India overcame many of her problems because its leaders depended not on a religious class but on democracy, where the army accepted its subordinate and supporting role, while politics and diplomacy made the main defense. In Pakistan, medieval concepts dominated instead. We had been perpetually indoctrinated to love the “mujahid” and the maulana. The ulema and religious parties immediately demanded a decisive role. Landed gentry found the ulema and the army as their best protectors. That perhaps explains why no land reform has damaged them to this day.These two stake holders decided to promote each other as the champions of Islam, fighting the heretics of India as their core duty. The Kashmir problem existed only as a permanent excuse for arousing sentiment; it was never handled with the modern tools of effective diplomacy because a liberal, democratic India always found more friends against our ever deepened religious identity. Only one education was allowed and available to the nation: Fight India with the power of Islam.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Kati » 06 Feb 2013 00:06

200 million creditcard fraud exposed by the US Feds
http://news.yahoo.com/massive-200m-cred ... ories.html

The defendants, including the alleged ringleaders, Babar Qureshi and Muhammad Shafiq, are due to make their initial court appearances this afternoon before U.S. Magistrate Judge Madeline Cox Arleo in a Newark federal court

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby ramana » 06 Feb 2013 00:50

^^^^

The dominant classes of Pakistan that demanded separation from the rest of India in 1947 were mainly the same who had ruled India under different Muslim dynasties. They were the landed aristocracy, “pirs” and ulema of different levels. They lost power to the British, but never gave up their claim over India.



This is imagined identity that disgruntled people have.

Even the Brits came up with Queen Bodaecia, Arthur and his Round Table and all that to justify their sorry national state.

Recent research shows Arthur was some Sarmatian guard stranded in post Roman Britain! In other words as British as a Central Asian Huns/Scythians.

Similarly the glorious figures that Pakis go into rapture about are also free booters from Central Asia and Middle East.

Pity their mothers for the Pakis literally had four fathers:Arab, Persian, Turcoman and Afghan.


And by the way the Marathas and Sikhs did reconquer them and reduce them to pensioners.
Its not in Hindu or Sikh psyche to reconvert the dregs that enabled these new dregs to nurse imagined identites.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby RSoami » 06 Feb 2013 01:27

http://dawn.com/2013/02/05/sunni-itteha ... terrorism/

At least 50 Islamic scholars belonging to Sunni Ittehad Council issued a fatwa (ruling) in which they condemned terrorism in the country.

The fatwa also said that the United States is the enemy of Pakistan and the Islamic world. Further stating that any alliance with the US is un-Islamic and illegal.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Kati » 06 Feb 2013 04:17

More on the $200 million creditcard scam

http://money.msn.com/identity-theft/new ... d=16082591

Prosecutors allege one man was able to withdraw and wire $1.5 million from personal accounts despite not having a job. They said he engaged in an "enormous" amount of travel to Pakistan and was ordered held

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Brad Goodman » 06 Feb 2013 04:56

ju kaffirs habe no patience

Grenade attack near Pak Air Force base in Karachi

Unidentified miscreants :shock: hurled two hand grenades in front of a Pakistan Air Force base, in the port city of Karachi this evening, injuring at least one person, a spokesman said.



The hand grenades were lobbed near the Base on Shahra-e-Faisal Air Base Flyover at about 7:15 pm, during busy traffic hours, the PAF spokesman said in a statement.

"One pedestrian got injured :cry: at the exit end of flyover, who was shifted to JinnahHospital for first aid," he said.

He said the security agencies were in control of the situation and were carrying out thorough investigation of the incident through all available means including CCTV footage.

"The security of all PAF Air Bases is already on high alert," the spokesman said.

No group has claimed responsibility for the attack.

In May, 2011, militants had attacked the Mehran Naval base which is adjacent to the PAF base.

Around 15 people including security personnel and the attackers were killed in the 15-hour gunbattle that ensued at the naval installation.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Brad Goodman » 06 Feb 2013 04:58

Rental Raja rehearsing for Miss World paegent.. talking about world peace

Pak PM says Kashmir poses threat to world peace

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sanjaykumar » 06 Feb 2013 05:23

I think he meant to say Pakistan is a threat to world peace.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Anujan » 06 Feb 2013 06:34

And This is what Hamid Mir says
"Historically Kashmir was closer to Central Asia than India Mahmood Ghaznavi failed to conquer Kashmir Islam came there by Sufis"


Someone should ask him why Kashmir is called "Kashmir" and who its capital city "Sri Nagar" is named after.

Central asia indeed! :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 06 Feb 2013 07:00

Drone strikes violation of Sauviriginty’
Soverignty Belongs to Allah: Virginty Belongs To Amrika

WASHINGTON: Pakistani Ambassador to US]Sherry Rehman has said that CIA drone strikes in Pakistan are “a clear violation of our sau Virgnity and a violation of intercoursenational law”that threaten stable relations between Islamabad and Washington, US newspaper The Washington Post reported. The Washington Post quoted Sherry Rehman as saying that persistent reports that Pakistani Naa means Haan and tacitly approved the strokes while publicly denouncing them are untrue.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 06 Feb 2013 07:21

Shinde's Cousin Hafiz Saeed urges India to ‘leave Kashmir’
Inbreds Forget 47 and 71

LAHORE: Jamaatud Dawa (JuD) chief Hafiz Saeed urged India to “leave Kashmir” while addressing a rally in Lahore to mark Kashmir Solidarity Day on Tuesday.
“No one could defeat the Muslims… If America had to run away, then India, you will have to leave Kashmir as well,” said Saeed amid chants of ‘al-jihad, al-jihad’.Saeed expressed support for all Kashmiri leaders and prayed to God to protect and unite them.“India’s army of 800,000 will lose… Kashmiris will get independence,” he said.Pakistan observed Kashmir Solidarity Day on February 5 to denounce Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan region claimed in whole by both countries.


( Czek the Remarks :rotfl: )

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 06 Feb 2013 07:26

Ahmadi literature: Printing press employees accused of blasphemy
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LAHORE: An additional district and sessions judge has fixed February 7 for arguments on the after-arrest bails of four men accused of publishing allegedly blasphemous books about the Ahmadi faith.
Moeed Ayaz, Asmatullah, Razaullah and Ghulamullah, employees of Black Arrow Printing Press, were arrested on January 7 as they loaded a small truck with thousands of books and CDs. The four accused are Ahmadis. Arrest warrants have been issued for the printing press’s owner, who is at large.He said that even if the complaint were true, his clients should have been charged under Sections 6 (literal distortion of ayah text), 7 (translation or interpretation of Holy Quran contrary to belief of Muslims) and 9 (penalty) of the Punjab Holy Quran (Printing and Recording) Act of 2011 – which carry a maximum penalty of three years in prison – rather than Sections 295B (defiling the Holy Quran) and 298C (an Ahmadi calling himself a Muslim or preaching his faith) of the Pakistan Penal Code (PPC), which carry a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.At their remand hearing before a magistrate, Advocate Chaudhry Ghulam Mustafa, the lawyer for the complainant, contended that the accused were planning to distribute the “blasphemous literature” in various markets. The magistrate remanded them in judicial custody for 14 days.The FIR was registered on the complaint of Muhammad Tayyab. Islampura police confiscated the material and truck and registered a case against the men on January 7 under Sections 295B and 298C of the PPC, as well as Section 24A of the Press and Publications Ordinance, though the ordinance was repealed in 2002.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby sanjaykumar » 06 Feb 2013 07:58

No one could defeat the Muslims… If America had to run away, then India, you will have to leave Kashmir as well,” said Saeed amid chants of ‘al-jihad, al-jihad’.Saeed expressed support for all Kashmiri leaders and prayed to God to protect and unite them.“India’s army of 800,000 will lose… Kashmiris will get independence,” he said.Pakistan observed Kashmir Solidarity Day on February 5 to denounce Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan region claimed in whole by both countries.


Muslims have a great sense of humour.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby shiv » 06 Feb 2013 08:04

Anujan wrote:And This is what Hamid Mir says
"Historically Kashmir was closer to Central Asia than India Mahmood Ghaznavi failed to conquer Kashmir Islam came there by Sufis"



What I find remarkable here is that this guy who is so full of Islamic pride is a dhimmi slave to western Macaulay version of history where "central Asia" is different from Punjab or India. The Oxus river in Tajikistan was called Vakshu in the Vedas and the area from Central Asia to Afghanistan were all part of "Madra" or Uttaramadra, also known to the west as Media or the Medes.

But then again Islam was born yesterday and anyone who speaks of history of islam is talking abut recent events
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

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sanjaykumar wrote:No one could defeat the Muslims… If America had to run away, then India, you will have to leave Kashmir as well,” said Saeed amid chants of ‘al-jihad, al-jihad’.Saeed expressed support for all Kashmiri leaders and prayed to God to protect and unite them.“India’s army of 800,000 will lose… Kashmiris will get independence,” he said.Pakistan observed Kashmir Solidarity Day on February 5 to denounce Indian rule in the disputed Himalayan region claimed in whole by both countries.


Muslims have a great sense of humour.


Even when facing certain death.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kenop » 06 Feb 2013 10:22

Why is the mard-e-momeen Hafiz-e-piglet urging kaffir banias?
He should immediately launch ghazwa-e-behind and take over.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Prem » 06 Feb 2013 10:45

US urged not to cross ‘red line’ :rotfl: in Fata

Sherry To Kerry , I wont Merry to Cary The Lary

WASHINGTON: Pakistan’s ambassador to the United States on Tuesday blasted the Obama administration for continued drone strikes in Fata, calling the violation a “red line” that should not be crossed. At a breakfast meeting with the Christian Science Monitor staff, Sherry Rehman said that drones strikes were “a clear violation of our sovereignty and a violation of international law” that threatened stable relations between the two governments.She rejected persistent media reports that Pakistan tacitly approved the strikes while denouncing them publicly as untrue. “Let me assure you that since we have been in government, there has been no quiet complicity, no question of wink and nod,” she said. ( No Pious Witness for Four Fathers Activity)Pakistan warns that the civilian deaths are counter-productive as they increase public sympathy for the militants and wants the United States to stop the strikes.The drone strategy “creates more potential terrorists on the ground and militants on the ground instead of taking them out,” the ambassador said. “We need to drain the swamp, but instead it is radicalising people.”Ambassador Rehman complained that the United States had failed to appreciate Pakistan’s domestic terrorism problems and counter-terrorism operations, which have cost nearly 50,000 military and civilian lives and 72k billions of dollars in expenditures and lost income over the past decade.She said Pakistan was increasingly concerned that the US troop withdrawal from Afghanistan would leave “the kind of detritus we were left to deal with” after the last US departure from the region in the early 1990s.But the ambassador also noted that the United States and Pakistan had overcome years of “chronic distrust and periods of crisis management” and Pakistan was now looking for an enduring, sustainable relationship with the US, based on mutual respect and cooperation.She also upheld her government’s criticism of the Academy Award nominated movie “Zero Dark Thirty”, calling it “very zero, very dark”.The film depicts the CIA-led raid on a compound in Abbottabad where US commandos killed Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.Ambassador Rehman said Pakistan was fully engaged with the US and their dialogue groups were working across a range of structured issues on which there was cooperation.She praised incoming Secretary of State John Kerry as somebody who “brings experience and knowledge” of her country to the table.Referring to Mr Kerry’s statement at his confirmation hearing last week, she urged Washington to give her country credit for joining in the anti-terror campaign of the last 11 years and helping to stop insurgents from crossing the border into her country.


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Postby Prem » 06 Feb 2013 10:50

Obama TO Poaqama, Apna Hai Jamana ,Drone Must Oorana
Drones are legal, ethical and wise: White House

WASHINGTON: The White House said on Tuesday that US drone strikes on potential terrorist targets were ‘legal,’ ‘ethical’ and ‘wise’ and would continue.“These strikes are legal, they are ethical and they are wise,” White House Press Secretary Jay Carney told a briefing in Washington. “The US government takes great care in deciding to pursue an Al Qaeda terrorist, to ensure precision and to avoid loss of innocent life.”Mr Carney rejected the media criticism of the US drone policy, the day after a Department of Justice memo leaked the conditions in which it viewed drone strikes targeted at American citizens abroad as legal.The DOJ memo, which was first reported by NBC, says that the government can order the killing of American citizens abroad if there is reason to believe they are “senior operational leaders” of Al Qaeda or “an associated force”.“If an informed, high-level official” determines that an individual is “a senior, operational leader of Al Qaeda or an associated force” and poses “an imminent threat” to the United States and that individual’s “capture is infeasible”, then killing him or herwouldn’t violate the Constitution, says the memo.The 16-page “white paper” provides a legal framework for killing a terrorist overseas, without violating his due process — even if the person is an American citizen.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby PratikDas » 06 Feb 2013 11:26

Why do I get the feeling that the DOJ memo leak and official justification from Safed Ghar signals the final chapter in drone warfare against Pakistan? Sherry is also on an anti-drone campaign over-drive. They're wrapping up and they want to leave Sherry and others with a thank you note.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Baikul » 06 Feb 2013 11:42

Brad Goodman wrote:.........
Grenade attack near Pak Air Force base in Karachi
The hand grenades were lobbed near the Base on Shahra-e-Faisal Air Base Flyover at about 7:15 pm, during busy traffic hours, the PAF spokesman said in a statement.
...............


This is just commuters managing traffic during rush hour and trying to get home early. Welcome to Pakistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 06 Feb 2013 11:50

Kargil redux by Ejaz Haider

http://tribune.com.pk/story/502956/kargil-redux/

If Musharraf and his lieutenants had worked out the scenarios, they would have known that they could not finger India without the other two services onboard and, in the worst-case scenario, preparing the nation for a possible broader conflict.


Just like they fingered India in 47, 65 and 71 :rotfl:

These Pakis are unbelievable! The article reads like a "If only the military planning was good..." wet dream.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Raja Bose » 06 Feb 2013 12:02

partha wrote:Kargil redux by Ejaz Haider

http://tribune.com.pk/story/502956/kargil-redux/


Only a highly educated Paki senior journalist can write articles with terms such as this liberally sprinkled...

Or what options, if any, Pakistan could exercise in case the Indians decided, which sure as hell :rotfl: they would have and did, to sacrifice any number of men to regain lost positions.


Pretty soon, I am sure they are going to descend into using m****ch*d/b****ch*d in their editorials. After all GUBO has its effects on vocabulary. :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Lalmohan » 06 Feb 2013 13:37

i see that 800,000 is the new 700,000

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby partha » 06 Feb 2013 13:54

partha wrote:From archives:
Brad Goodman wrote:
Sunil Gavaskar denies reports of his involvement with PPL

Raja Bose wrote:
What else to expect from the Pakis. :rotfl: When they have had no good news for the last 50 years, all they can do is manufacture them.
1st, it was LinkedIn opening an office in Pakistan - DENIED.
After that, it was Putin visiting Pakistan - DENIED.
Now, it is Sunil Gavaskar helping set up the PPL - DENIED.
:rotfl: :rotfl:

partha wrote:
Japan offering $4B funding for Basha dam - DENIED.
Bill Gates inviting Pakistani student - DENIED (http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/05/28/ ... G50Yfl27cY)
Bangladesh Cricket Board agreeing to tour Pakistan - DENIED (http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/bcb-chief ... 08451.html)
Salman Khan and Katrina attending Pakistani awards function - DENIED (http://tribune.com.pk/story/405801/katr ... situation/)

SG involvement in PPL should be the best :rotfl:
Looking at the state of Pakistan, I won't be surprised if Jinnah comes back from the grave and denies having created Pakistan.


Future denials.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/492677/pakistan-super-league-indian-players-want-to-take-part-says-pcb-official/
Pakistan Super League: Indian players want to take part, says PCB official


KARACHI: At a time when India and Bangladesh have refused to play in Pakistan, their players have contacted the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) in order to take part in the Pakistan Super League which is scheduled to get underway in March.



Guys, time for update on Pakistan Spot-Fixing League (PSL). Auction coming up on Feb 24th.
http://in.news.yahoo.com/pakistan-super-league-md-says-indian-players-showing-100637862.html
Islamabad, Jan 27(ANI): Pakistan Super League (PSL) managing director Salman Sarwar Butt has said no Indian player has shown interest in participating in country's inaugral Twenty20 competition so far.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21289087
Ex-England wicketkeeper Phil Mustard says he wants to play in the Pakistan Super League despite safety warnings.The international players' union (Fica) described the security situation in Pakistan as "unmanageable".

Yeh Phill Mustard kaun hain bhai? Mustard bhai, dobara soch kar deny kardena.

Fica and England's Professional Cricketers' Association (PCA) have called on players to avoid the 25 March-7 April competition because of concerns over security in Pakistan. The governing bodies of Australia and South Africa have both indicated that they would not support contracted players taking part.

Mustard: "My agent got in touch and asked if I would be interested in going. My first instinct was 'no' but in Bangladesh I have spoken to a couple of the Pakistan players and a couple of guys from the ICC [International Cricket Council]. "They say it is all going to go ahead and the security is going to be amazing. There are going to be bullet-proof buses and everything else."


Mustard bhai, bakra mat bano :rotfl:

Should other counties follow Durham's lead, the Pakistan Super League could take place without any players from England, Australia or South Africa, a situation that would disappoint Pakistan all-rounder Shahid Afridi.
"Pakistan cricket is suffering because of non-cooperation and it is high time that other nations contribute to our efforts," he said. "Don't leave us alone,"


wow!! suffering because of non-co-operation. Nothing is wrong with Pakistan. Conspiracy of baniyas and goras with small hearts only.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JE Menon » 06 Feb 2013 13:57

>>Why do I get the feeling that the DOJ memo leak and official justification from Safed Ghar signals the final chapter in drone warfare against Pakistan?

You are absolutely right. But it is not the "final chapter". It is the ground work being prepared in public, and undoubtedly in private, for the future of America's war in Pakistan. Pakistan, and probably to some extent parts of Afghanistan too, will be the ground in which America's remote and autonomous capabilities will be tested and refined. There will also be tactical availability of ground forces on a case by case basis as always. The ONLY thing that is going to reduce is the absolute number of American defence department and intelligence personnel, including soldiers, on the ground in AfPak. Americans are going to leave, but America is preparing to stay for a long time. Pakistan is going to be violated at will. But they will give them sweets and other colourful things to let them put their hands and other body parts here and there. It's OK. Pakistanis are used to that and understand the underlying dynamic from their experience in their own homes. They will not object too loud after a while.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby PratikDas » 06 Feb 2013 14:08

If I understand what you mean, the Americans will stop claiming drone successes and the Pakistanis will stop crying for sovereignty, but everything regarding the drones will probably be business as usual. H&D polish.

Makes sense.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JE Menon » 06 Feb 2013 14:53

Not quite. Americans will not stop claiming drone successes, and Pakistanis will not stop crying for sovereignty. What has happened is that the grounds for the actual operations has been legally and publicly laid, and given White House seal of approval. There was always legal cover of course, and if there wasn't it would have been created. Here, however, the fine point is that they have given cover to kill American citizens in Pakistan. Now, guess what, this means there is zero legal case anyone can make in the US against killing non-Americans in Pakistan - and I suppose that is the key. In effect, this means, it will be a literal turkey shoot for a while to come with periods of ups and downs in operational intensity. Like I said, Pakistan will be violated. It will scream a bit for a while, but eventually not too loudly, and will simmer down to a whimper, because it knows what's coming, has experienced it before, knows it probably can't get much worse, and that it can't bloody do a thing about it anyway. Resignation. Sherry should know well what that means. :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby ArmenT » 06 Feb 2013 14:57

partha wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21289087
Ex-England wicketkeeper Phil Mustard says he wants to play in the Pakistan Super League despite safety warnings.The international players' union (Fica) described the security situation in Pakistan as "unmanageable".

Yeh Phill Mustard kaun hain bhai? Mustard bhai, dobara soch kar deny kardena.

Here's the man's stats. Looks like he plays in the T20 Bangladesh league for the Barisal Burners. Wikipedia lists his annual salary for 2013 in the BD league as $50,000 so he may be looking to make some extra money on the side any way he can during his playing years.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Suppiah » 06 Feb 2013 15:25

partha wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cricket/21289087
Ex-England wicketkeeper Phil Mustard says he wants to play in the Pakistan Super League despite safety warnings.
Mustard bhai, bakra mat bano :rotfl:


Murtard bhai is one spelling mistake away from being declared wajib-al-qatl...oops I did it!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby shiv » 06 Feb 2013 16:12

JE Menon wrote:>>Why do I get the feeling that the DOJ memo leak and official justification from Safed Ghar signals the final chapter in drone warfare against Pakistan?

You are absolutely right. But it is not the "final chapter". It is the ground work being prepared in public, and undoubtedly in private, for the future of America's war in Pakistan. Pakistan, and probably to some extent parts of Afghanistan too, will be the ground in which America's remote and autonomous capabilities will be tested and refined. There will also be tactical availability of ground forces on a case by case basis as always. The ONLY thing that is going to reduce is the absolute number of American defence department and intelligence personnel, including soldiers, on the ground in AfPak. Americans are going to leave, but America is preparing to stay for a long time. Pakistan is going to be violated at will. But they will give them sweets and other colourful things to let them put their hands and other body parts here and there. It's OK. Pakistanis are used to that and understand the underlying dynamic from their experience in their own homes. They will not object too loud after a while.


So Shitistanis need not fear. America will stay with them this time then?

BTW any Pakis killed yet today? Or is it a day off?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby krishnan » 06 Feb 2013 16:14

it got so routine, they stop publishing the news of people getting killed

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby JE Menon » 06 Feb 2013 16:41

>>So Shitistanis need not fear. America will stay with them this time then?

Indeed. And his name, in due course, will be Amerikhan. From Central Asia. And Pakistanis will still be TFTA (Tall Fair & Torn Arsed).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 06 Feb 2013 17:17

partha wrote:Kargil redux - by Ejaz Haider

These Pakis are unbelievable! The article reads like a "If only the military planning was good..." wet dream.

From the above,
Kargil requires closure

I say the whole of Pakistan requires closure.

Again, Ejaz Haider is not condemning the Pakistani obsession or resort to military and terrorist means to achieve its illegitimate and unattainable objectives. He is all right with the objectives per se, but he only faults a lack of planning !

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Lalmohan » 06 Feb 2013 17:21

you have to remember that all paqui journo's are "licensed" by the ISI - so print whatever the party line is - or go swimming in the canal with some extra lead in the head. right now the faujis are closing ranks and keeping mush out of the power plays. there must be a credible threat to kiyakahin from a mush-returns agenda

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby SSridhar » 06 Feb 2013 17:38

Pak calls for OIC probe into LoC Violations - The Hindu
Seeking to internationalise tensions along the Line of Control, Pakistan has called for an investigation into the recent incidents there by the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation.

“We would also welcome an OIC fact-finding mission to investigate the recent incidents of ceasefire violations along the LoC,” Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar said while addressing a meeting of the OIC contact group on Kashmir in Cairo on Tuesday.

She reiterated that Pakistan is ready to work with the United Nations Military Observer Group for India and Pakistan to carry out an independent inquiry into the ceasefire violations.

Earlier, Pakistan’s attempt to rope in the United Nations by demanding a probe by UNMOGIP was foiled by India, which rejected it saying the matter can be settled bilaterally.

Ms. Khar again contended that there were “negative and hostile statements emanating from the Indian leadership” during the ceasefire violations.

She said Pakistan chose to “exercise restraints to keep the Pakistan-India peace process on track.”

“Pakistan has entered into dialogue with India in good faith to amicably resolve the Kashmir dispute. We are earnestly implementing the cross-LoC confidence-building measures to bring relief to the divided families and reduce the sufferings of the Kashmiris on both sides of the LoC,” she said in her address.

The CBMs had contributed towards creating a “congenial environment between the two countries to address the issue of Jammu and Kashmir”, she said.

Ms. Khar said she had told her Indian counterpart of the need to address the Kashmir dispute “in the larger interest of bringing peace and stability to South Asia and ameliorating the sufferings of the Kashmiri people.”

Pakistan, Ms. Khar said, is “convinced that the key to enduring peace and security in South Asia lies in resolving the longstanding dispute of Kashmir.”

Islamabad is committed to finding a peaceful solution in line with UN Security Council resolutions and aspirations of the Kashmiris, she said.

“To this end we believe that the Kashmiris should be associated with the dialogue process,” she said.

Ms. Khar called on the Indian government to initiate appropriate steps for an early resolution of the Kashmir dispute.

She thanked the OIC for extending support to the Kashmir cause. She also alleged that rights violations in Jammu and Kashmir were continuing.

“Despite the signals that sometime emanate from India that the security forces presence in Kashmir would be reduced, the number of the Indian occupied forces has not gone down,” she alleged.

“Pakistan reiterates it demand and calls upon the government of India to exercise restraint, stop killing of innocent Kashmiris and ensure those responsible for such crimes are brought to justice,” she said.

The contact group on Kashmir met on the sidelines of an OIC summit.

The OIC secretary general reaffirmed the organisation’s commitment to the Kashmir issue.

The contact group decided to invite Azerbaijan to join the group and attend future meetings.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kish » 06 Feb 2013 19:57

These days anything pakis say or do is funny. To start with they have a financial daily called "Business Recorder" :lol: (What kind of business, when their forex reserves is $9billion and dwindling)

Anyways, "business" news is..

'Kashmir Day' being observed

'Kashmir Day' is being observed as Solidarity day across the country.

Debates and declamations in schools and colleges throughout the provinces will be arranged by the Higher Education and Elementary Education Department.


No wonder they are inventing waater gaadi, with Higher Education department sponsored "cashmere debates" as reported in "Business Recorder"(Higher education department & Financial media doing what they meant to do :D )

He stated this while addressing a Kashmir Conference and launching email awareness camping organized by Jamat-i-Islami Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) at National Press Club on Monday.

He said this is the internet era :rotfl: so we use these tools for highlighting the Kashmir issue all over the world.


People know what pakis do with internet :mrgreen: . Is Internet not a kafir invention? The facebook ban is not revoked, so boor pakis has to do with email campaign onlee.

[/End of business news]

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby kish » 06 Feb 2013 20:13

A "letter to the editor" from pakistani in Melbourne to pakitribune.

This guy give me hope. If pakis are subjected to decent education, they may become normal human beings rather than being radicalized reptiles.

Kashmir Day... By Atif
Processions are taken out across Pakistan to support the rights of Kashmiris for independence or accession to Pakistan. I was a school child when February 5 was declared Kashmir Day and also a national holiday. There used to be a lot of enthusiasm about Kashmir in Pakistan and many people believed that the unfortunately divided but stunningly beautiful Valley of Kashmir would soon join the Pakistani federation.

State-owned Pakistan Television aired immensely popular plays like Angar Wadi, an unsuccessful attempt to send a message across the Line of Control (LoC) to Kashmiri nationalists that they should embrace the concept of nationalism based on religion instead of Kashmiri culture and join Pakistan. The Kashmir jihad was in full swing and the successive Pakistani governments of the 1990s did their best to win support from the Muslim and non-Muslim world for the Pakistani stand on Kashmir. The situation took an awkward turn when Pakistan and India went to war in 1999, once again in Kashmir. Without going into the events that led to the Kargil debacle, this appeared to be the last armed struggle between the two nuclear weapon possessing neighbours. General Musharraf, in his day, even went to the extent of scrapping what used to be the principal stand of Pakistan over Kashmir, the UN resolutions. This was the height of pragmatism in the approach of the Pakistani establishment, which has since not shown any interest in reviving Pakistan's narrative on Kashmir to pre-Musharraf days.

All the major political and non-political stakeholders in Pakistan have now realised that the most sought after support of local Kashmiris to join Pakistan will always remain a distant dream. We have paid a very heavy price to learn this lesson right from the days of Operation Gibraltar to Kargil. Finally, lessons have been learnt and, with this, observation of Kashmir Day will also gradually lose its fervour like Defence Day. Kashmir belongs to the Kashmiris like Pakistan belongs to Pakistanis and India belongs to Indians.

MALIK ATIF MAHMOOD MAJOKA
Melbourne, Australia

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Postby Lilo » 06 Feb 2013 20:30

kish wrote:Anyways, "business" news is..

'Kashmir Day' being observed

'Kashmir Day' is being observed as Solidarity day across the country.

Debates and declamations in schools and colleges throughout the provinces will be arranged by the Higher Education and Elementary Education Department.


No wonder they are inventing waater gaadi, with Higher Education department sponsored "cashmere debates" as reported in "Business Recorder"(Higher education department & Financial media doing what they meant to do :D )


For Bakis, just as in case of their Arap four fathers of yore, politics IS business.

Before this short lived (in historical terms) phase of oil economy, Araps lived by outright pillage or politics to retain control of the trade and pilgrimage routes .
Bakis as the self proclaimed illegitimate decedents of their arap four fathers and their rapacious ideology, are therefore destined to squander their current resource of arable land while having wet dreams of future hafta from trade to Central Asia & China "passing" though their lands owing to their supposed "strategic" location .


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