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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 10:52
by pgbhat
Are Pakjabis TSPA troops on ground okay to join Talibs led by Pashtoons?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 10:57
by ramana
Pakjabis are hijadas. They will join anyone with the whip.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 10:57
by Prem
pgbhat wrote:Are Pakjabis TSPA troops on ground okay to join Talibs led by Pashtoons?


Who else will keep the Talibans warm at night? SJihad is Obligatory at night time for Holy warriors on Jihad.Pakjabis will provide the Back-boning ingredient alognside Oral services to Pawshtoons.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 12:02
by Baikul
ramana wrote:SS, When can we expect to see the TTP become the TSPA? What signs and markers?
..............


When I read the story posted by Ambar above I immediately thought it interesting that while the TTP is speaking like a government.........

In the video, Hakimullah sitting besides Rehman, who commands the Mehsud Taliban, also rebuffed the notion that the two were at odds over talks with the Pakistani government, saying that “meaningful and serious dialogue” was always welcome and that the Pakistani Taliban were never opposed to it.


We are and we have always been open to dialogue…but true talks...."


"The top commanders of the TTP also said that their fight was not specifically against the ANP, Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP), or the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), but against the “system which has enslaved the Pakistani nation”, accusing the political parties of “supporting it on the behest of the US and foreign masters.


..........in a recent visit to a neighbouring South Asian state the honourable Interior Minister of South Asia, the Hon'ble Rehman Malik, was speaking like a terrorist.

"We do not want any 9/11. We do not want any Bombay blasts, we do not want any Samjhauta Express, we do not want any Babri mosque issue and we can work together not only for peace in Pakistan and India but also for the region," Malik said here.


Malik claimed Lashkar-e-Taiba operative Abu Jundal, who was allegedly present in the control room during the Mumbai attacks, is an Indian agent.

"Abu Jundal's statement was taken in Saudi Arabia. In his own statement, Jundal says he is a criminal having been charged in many cases. He also worked as one of the sources of a very elite agency of India. I will put it in another way, you become a source and you become a double agent," Malik said.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 12:08
by darshhan
ramana wrote:Darshann, Spelling mistake perhaps?
Gorilla instead of guerilla?


Ramanaji, From one of my earlier posts

darshhan wrote:X-Posted

See the commonality.

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Ofcourse how could I forget the old favorite( Islamic rage boy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 12:38
by SSridhar
pgbhat wrote:Are Pakjabis TSPA troops on ground okay to join Talibs led by Pashtoons?
ramana wrote:Pakjabis are hijadas. They will join anyone with the whip.

I agree with Ramana. Already, pakjabi terrorists are part of a TTP led by a Pashtun emir (have been so for a decade now under successive Pashtun emirs, Nek Mohammed, Abdullah Mehsud, Baitullah Mehsud and now Hakilullah Mehsud). Ultimately, thay have all taken a bayat in the name of another Pashtun, the one-eyed Mullah Omar. Mullah Omar has replaced Ayman Zawahiri. Pakjabis have not been given any posts in the hierarchy, not Deputy emirship, not spokesmanship nothing and they haven't demurred. OTOH, most suicide bombers have come from South Punjab. The attackers on the Indian embassy in Kabul (twice) and various other attacks organized by Haaqani, or even the TTP for that matter, were Punjabi foot soldiers.

Because of demographis, Punjabis will be in sizeable numbers even in TTP but there is no doubt about who dominates this setup and it is not the Punjabis. It is so different from the hierarchy in TSPA.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 14:14
by shiv
ramana wrote:Pakjabis are hijadas. They will join anyone with the whip.


jihad is an anagram of hijda.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 15:00
by Sagar G
shiv wrote:
ramana wrote:Pakjabis are hijadas. They will join anyone with the whip.


jihad is an anagram of hijda.


Careful Dr. Sahab inadvertently you are raising jihadis status.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 15:36
by r_subramanian
Blast heard near Karachi Cantt station
Small report. Posting in full.
A blast was heard near Cantt station, Karachi, Express News reported on Saturday.
Police and rescue officials have reached the blast site.
Injured have been taken to a nearby hospital. Buildings close to the site are also damaged.
The nature of the blast could not be ascertained as yet.

Link: http://tribune.com.pk/story/486295/blas ... tt-station

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 15:37
by r_subramanian
^
The toll now is 5

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 15:57
by r_subramanian
^
Apparently the blast was due to two CNG cylinders exploding! Not an act of terror

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 16:00
by Baikul
Or maybe it was General Kiyanahi farting after an unusually long lunch?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 18:53
by lakshmikanth
Sharia compliant pure cough syrup has done its duty in dispatching 33 to their 72 in pakhanastan:

http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 808666.cms

It has dispatched 33 murtads to jannat:

"The deaths from the cough syrup occurred in Gujranwala and villages surrounding the city", said Abdul Jabbar Shaheen, the top administrative official in Gujranwala. Another 54 people are being treated at hospitals in the city who are also believed to have consumed the syrup. Those involved are thought to be laborers or drug addicts who drank the syrup to get high, said Shaheen.

"Chemical samples collected from the victims' stomachs contained dextromethorphan, a synthetic morphine derivative used in cough syrup that can have mind-altering effects if consumed in large quantities", said Shaheen. "It is being investigated whether the people affected by the syrup in Gujranwala drank too much of it, or whether there was a problem with the medicine itself", he said.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 18:55
by Suppiah
. We have received 48 patients, some of which are critical. Six people killed have been shifted to the mortuary,” confirmed Seemi Jamali, a senior doctor at the Jinnah Hospital.


http://dawn.com/2012/12/29/blast-at-kar ... y-station/

Yawn agrees, pakbarians are animals

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 18:55
by pgbhat
The riddle of Tahirul Qadri ---- Khalid Ahmed
President Asif Ali Zardari, ever nimble-footed when it comes to survival, has countered the ISI move by moving closer to Nawaz Sharif through the appointment of Makhdoom Ahmad Mehmood as governor of Punjab. No ‘pipliya’ will enter the Governor’s House now. The Makhdoom is out to take down the Tehreek-e-Insaf, the tormentor of both the PPP and the PML-N. He has been and continues to be a friend of the Sharifs; he is additionally a sworn ally of President Zardari.
The Makhdoom says he belongs to no party and probably will not live in the Governor’s House, and if he does, he will spend his own money there. This will facilitate better mixing with the PML-N leadership who would not like to be seen visiting the big place in public view.
It is interesting how the bipartisan system in Pakistan defends itself despite irrepressible hatred between the leaders of the two big parties. They must feel that their vote banks are being raided by the likes of Imran Khan and TQ.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 18:59
by Suppiah
http://dawn.com/2012/12/29/mfn-status-f ... ackburner/

Mfn carrot is still dangling in front of wkk donkeys.... Miss the Dec deadline

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 19:03
by SSridhar
Suppiah wrote:http://dawn.com/2012/12/29/mfn-status-for-india-on-backburner/

MFN carrot is still dangling in front of wkk donkeys.... Miss the Dec deadline


Now, the donkeys will demand 'understanding', 'generosity' and more 'concessions' from big brother India to get MFN by June 2013.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 19:05
by Suppiah
lakshmikanth wrote:Sharia compliant pure cough syrup has done its duty in dispatching 33 to their 72 in pakhanastan:

http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 808666.cms

It has dispatched 33 murtads to jannat:


No houris, sorry, as no kafirs were killed before reaching jannat

What brand was it, tall mountain or deep ocean?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 19:20
by shiv
lakshmikanth wrote:Sharia compliant pure cough syrup has done its duty in dispatching 33 to their 72 in pakhanastan:

http://m.timesofindia.com/world/pakista ... 808666.cms

It has dispatched 33 murtads to jannat:



Hmm not kaff syrup. Probably kaffir syrup...

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 19:40
by Suppiah
From the Khalid article

According to some, first the ISI fielded Imran Khan and has now brought in TQ. More alarmingly, it is fielding the Defence of Pakistan Council, too, to prevent the Pakistani change of mind about India


Who is this 'some', Anujanullah? Congrats :-)

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 29 Dec 2012 21:54
by saip
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 01:26
by partha
Anujan wrote:
The Pakistani Taliban have seized at least 22 men from a regional paramilitary force in attacks on three checkpoints in northern Pakistan, a regional official said on Thursday. :mrgreen:
Taliban and other Pakistani sources put the number higher. 8)


Jhujar wrote:22 dont make any sense , 21 is considered auspicious in South Asia not 22.
I think the numbers have to Pakislamic "speciefic" 24 to make sense. 2+4=6 Chakka and 24x3=72 or 6x12=72 (12th month of the year) .


According to latest reports, 21 have been sent to meet their 72. 1 injured.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 01:56
by ramana
SS, I am thinking is some one of Badmash type defects to the TTP, we can see the overt takeover of TSP.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 02:08
by Prem
partha wrote:Anujan"]
The Pakistani Taliban have seized at least 22 men from a regional paramilitary force in attacks on three checkpoints in northern Pakistan, a regional official said on Thursday. :mrgreen:
Taliban and other Pakistani sources put the number higher. 8)="Jhujar"]
22 dont make any sense , 21 is considered auspicious in South Asia not 22.
I think the numbers have to Pakislamic "speciefic" 24 to make sense. 2+4=6 Chakka and 24x3=72 or 6x12=72 (12th month of the year) .
According to latest reports, 21 have been sent to meet their 72. 1 injured.


Allhamdolillah, Allah is all wise and listens to Kaffirs. Kaffirs had the numbers and Allah planned the Numbers . Lo Allah is right, Lucky 21 it is . Talibans hit the Black Jack.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 06:47
by SSridhar
ramana wrote:SS, I am thinking is some one of Badmash type defects to the TTP, we can see the overt takeover of TSP.

Ramana, that could be one of the signs, but I would expect that to come later. I know you asked the question. I am still thinking. May be, I will post in a couple of days.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 06:49
by Ambar
Alhamadillulah ! The most pious among the pious have kept their promise of putting Baki fauj on a supersonic plane to jannat ! My gut feeling about the recently "Kidnapped" 20 baki para-military soldiers soon meeting 72 houris came true today. Reuters is reporting 20 of the 22 kidnapped soldiers have been gunned down by TTP. Well, the "peace talks" is off to a good start i suppose..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20865888

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 07:50
by Prem
Zardari likely to visit India on Jan 3
And the Nautanki Continue

Zardari likely to visit India on Jan 3
KARAHI:President Assaf Ali Zardrai is expected to visit India to witness Pakistan-India match as part of cricket diplomacy to improve bilateral relations between both the neighbours on Jan 3, Indian media reports said.According to reports, the president would see the Jan 3 match in Kolkata along with his Indian counterpart Parnab Mukherjee while Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was also likely to witness the match with the Pakistani president.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 07:57
by Prem
Saij is being Set for new Sayyna
Defence secretary retracts statement about nuke threats

ISLAMABAD - The ‘disclosures’ from Defence Secretary LT-Gen (retd) Asif Yasin Malik on the ‘grey areas’ concerning the strategic relationship between Pakistan and the United States apparently put him into trouble with the retraction issued about his related statements a day after his assertion.
In an informal interaction with selective journalists from electronic media on Friday, the defence secretary was said to have spoken his mind on the presumed threats to Pakistan’s nuclear programme, contending that the US and United Kingdom were against it.
He was also quoted to have said that the spies from the foreign intelligence agencies were not allowed to operate undercover in Pakistan and the military authorities had complete information about the CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) secret agents operating in Pakistan. Moreover, Malik also purportedly stated that Washington’s (toughened) tone and tenor towards Pakistan was ‘changing’ and there were no Black Water marines here anymore.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 08:01
by Prem
Taliban execute 21 Murtads

South Asian Sharia Compliance Act

PESHAWAR - Taliban militants have shot dead 21 Pakistani soldiers who were kidnapped two days ago near Peshawar, officials said late Saturday night.“We found 21 bullet-riddled bodies of security personnel a short while ago in an uninhabited area,” local government official Naveed Akbar told AFP.The soldiers were abducted from two government paramilitary camps outside Peshawar on Thursday and the bodies were discovered about four kilometres away.Monitoring Desk adds: Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) claimed responsibility for massacring the 21 soldiers, reported private TV channels late on Saturday night.Officials of political administration and members of local jirga were sent to the area to retrieve the bodies. All the bodies have been identified and families of the victims have been informed about the killings. One injured soldier was shifted to Lady Reading Hospital in Peshawar while the other was still reported missing.Twenty-one of the 23 abducted soldiers were shot dead in execution style and their bodies were thrown away in Hassankhel area in FR Peshawar.It is to be mentioned here that the slaughter came one day after TTP chief Hakimullah Mehsud, in a video message, expressed his willingness to hold negotiation with the government for a ceasefire but refused to surrender arms and sever links with Al-Qaeda.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:01
by SSridhar
Jhujar wrote:Zardari likely to visit India on Jan 3
And the Nautanki Continue

He is not giving up, is he ? Who knows, our Prime Minister who many times loses sleep when somebody is arrested (but not when an indescribably brutal rape and murder happens in his own capital city) or who understands the priority in access to resources, might yet decide to make a visit before March. He is not going to be able to withstand the pressure from his Masters, the US, and his brother, Zardari.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:08
by SSridhar
The Taliban are consummate in dealing with the PA. They are pummeling them and also offering them an exit through dialogue that would impose their own T's & C's upon the martial TSPA.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:10
by Suppiah
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... e-is-allah

An amazing article, the very fact that it is published in English language daily, and the fact that it is written by a Lt. Gen, shows how deep TSP has sunk in the septic tank of fanatic barbaric animalism

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:31
by ramana
You mean marital TSPA?

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:41
by pgbhat
^ If not for the byline, one would think he is a maulana at the local mosque. Well TSPA jernails and maulanas are becoming one and the same. 8)

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:44
by Prem
SSridhar wrote:He is not giving up, is he ? Who knows, our Prime Minister who many times loses sleep when somebody is arrested (but not when an indescribably brutal rape and murder happens in his own capital city) or who understands the priority in access to resources, might yet decide to make a visit before March. He is not going to be able to withstand the pressure from his Masters, the US, and his brother, Zardari.


Visit will be done on the occasion of Baisakhi to provide religious cover for deer Singh.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:48
by SSridhar
Suppiah wrote:http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/columns/30-Dec-2012/on-whose-side-is-allah
An amazing article . . .

Indeed. Sample this,
Our hostility with the US will strengthen the currently stirred up extremist sentiments, while rendering our secular state vulnerable. . . We cannot remain on the current secular path

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:51
by Prem
Suppiah wrote:http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/columns/30-Dec-2012/on-whose-side-is-allah

An amazing article, the very fact that it is published in English language daily, and the fact that it is written by a Lt. Gen, shows how deep TSP has sunk in the septic tank of fanatic barbaric animalism


Dont they reduce their god to their own thinking level? :rotfl: OTOH, this is the basis of their religious doctrine destroying crtical thinking of adherents. BTW , Islam is secular by nature and so is Allah and his very own State Pakistan !! Poaqs are the most sincere hypocites who belive in their own lies and propoganda.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 09:53
by SSridhar
Pakistan Lifts Ban on YouTube only to Impose it Again - Anita Joshua, The Hindu
In a curious turn of events, Pakistan lifted the 103-day ban on YouTube on Saturday only to impose it again within a couple of hours as some television channels began reporting that the blasphemous content — which had invited the proscription in the first place — was still available on the video-sharing website.

The day began with hopes of the ban being lifted as Interior Minister Rehman Malik tweeted in the wee hours of Saturday that the notification ending the ban could be “expected today.”

And, sure enough, the ban was lifted early in the day with all Internet Service Providers being asked to “immediately block/restore complete YouTube website provisionally till further orders” and submit compliance through email by 3 p.m.

As word got around and television channels broke the story, some reported that the blasphemous film Innocence of Muslims was still available on YouTube. This saw the government swing into action and order a fresh ban on the website. How long YouTube remained accessible is unclear but from the various versions available, the duration was anywhere between 33 minutes to two hours.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 10:07
by pgbhat
Ambar wrote:Alhamadillulah ! The most pious among the pious have kept their promise of putting Baki fauj on a supersonic plane to jannat ! My gut feeling about the recently "Kidnapped" 20 baki para-military soldiers soon meeting 72 houris came true today. Reuters is reporting 20 of the 22 kidnapped soldiers have been gunned down by TTP. Well, the "peace talks" is off to a good start i suppose..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20865888


From NYT
Militants lined the officers up on a cricket field late Saturday night and gunned them down, said another local official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to talk to the news media.

Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Dec 25, 2012

Posted: 30 Dec 2012 10:32
by Harish
SSridhar wrote:
Suppiah wrote:http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/columns/30-Dec-2012/on-whose-side-is-allah
An amazing article . . .

Indeed. Sample this,
Our hostility with the US will strengthen the currently stirred up extremist sentiments, while rendering our secular state vulnerable. . . We cannot remain on the current secular path

From the quoted article:
The idea of standing up as a truly Islamic state is not as fearsome as some of us have been made to believe. The immediate image that comes to mind is of frenzied gun toting jihadists forcing the population to their version of Islam; of lashes and stoning; of a society living in fright and anguish: a Talibanised Pakistan. The reality could be far from it. This religion came to end tyranny and oppression; there is no coercion in it. Islam is a message of social justice, benevolence and peace, not only for the Muslims but for the entire community. If it does not bring tranquillity and serenity in the lives of the people, then it is not the true message of Islam but some distorted version of it.

If Islam does not bring peace to the masses, it is just not Islam, it is something else - a watered down version of Islam, a mis-interpretation, a case of not following the religion in its "true" spirit - anything but the fault of Islam itself. Similarly, a Muslim accused of rape, loot and murder is just not a good Muslim anymore - he is misguided, or if the crime is serious enough, a complete unbeliever.

In any case, those who commit crimes are not part of the Islamic fold. No introspection is needed. Soul-searching is uncalled for because the perpetrators do not represent Islam at all. Problem solved. All is well onlee.

If you do not buy this argument, you do not understand the spirit of Islam, or at worst, you are Islamophobic. What can Muslims and Islam do about that?