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Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Atri » 21 Feb 2013 18:07

Last page of previous thread.


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The following links are background material on Pakistan.

UNDERSTANDING PAKISTAN:

Jinnah's Pakistan: An Interview with MA Jinnah, and how the Pakistan of Yesterday is the Pakistan of Today
http://iref.homestead.com/Messiah.html

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/_files/012809Tellis.pdf

The above is the testimony of Ashley Tellis on Jan 28th 2009, to the US Senate Homeland Security Committee on LeT's global role. It is a good articulation of LeT's past and future trends.

Know Your Pakistan
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... /Shiv.html

The Monkey Trap: A synopsis of Indo-Pak relations
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... ayyam.html

PAKISTAN-FAILED STATE: an ebook that owes its origin and existence to BRF.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/EBOOKS/pfs.pdf

Whither Pakistan ? Growing Instability and Implications for India: an IDSA e-Book, July 2010
http://idsa.in/book/WhitherPakistan

A landmark article that demolishes myths built up about Pakistan
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/papers8/paper710.html

Pakistani Role in Terrorism Against the U.S.A
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... yanan.html

Pakistani Education, or how Pakistan became what it is: Curricula and textbooks in Pakistan
http://www.sdpi.org/publications/public ... 6-34.html#

Making Enemies, Creating Conflict: Pakistan's Crises of State and Society. A book written by Pakistanis on Pakistan.
http://members.tripod.com/~no_nukes_sa/Contents.html

Should Pakistan Be Broken Up? by Gul Agha
http://pakistan70.tripod.com/gul.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part I
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... art-1.html

Prof. Walter Russell Mead, "Pakistan's Failed National Strategy"
http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/ ... -strategy/

"Pakistan Is", by Barry Bearak in New York Times Magazine, December 7, 2003.
Brings out succinctly various facets of Pakistani perfidy, obsession, fundamentalism etc.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... nted=print

PAKISTAN & TERRORISM:

The Ideologies of South Asian Jihadi Groups (Laskar-e-Taiba)
By Hussein Haqqani (journalist and Pak ambassador to US)
http://www.futureofmuslimworld.com/rese ... detail.asp

Lashkar-e-Taiba: Past Operations and Future Prospects, Stephen Tankel, April 2011
New America Foundation
http://newamerica.net/sites/newamerica. ... _LeT_0.pdf


Pakistani sponsoring of Terrorism
http://www.geocities.com/charcha_2000/
http://pak-terror.freeservers.com/Terro ... y_Tool.htm

Terror Map: The Pakistani Hand
http://sify.com/news/specials/terrormap/?vsv=TopHP1

Ethnic cleansing in Pakistan - a statistical analysis
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/MONITOR/I ... idhar.html

A chronicle of genocide by the Pakistan army
http://www.gendercide.org/case_bangladesh.html

Documentary video evidence of Pakistani genocide in Bangladesh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-94U1bVUQ
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EBKlIUbpc ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sMg9Ly9nK0g
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xwwPbkyZV ... re=related

Inside Jihad - How Pakistan sponsors terrorists in India
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/ ... r_sb1.html

Pakistan's Role in the Kashmir Insurgency - Op-ed by Rand's Peter Chalk
http://www.rand.org/hot/op-eds/090101JIR.html

Alden Pyle in Pakistan, Part II
http://pundita.blogspot.com/2009/12/ald ... -upon.html

BEYOND MADRASAS: ASSESSING THE LINKS BETWEEN EDUCATION AND MILITANCY IN PAKISTAN
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/ ... nthrop.pdf

Pakistani Military Officers' Links with Jihadist Organizations
http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5587.htm

Putting Our Children in Line of Fire - The Nation, January 27, 2013
The above is an admission by Pakistan Army's Top General that it was the Pakistani Army at Kargil, not the mujahideen, and Musharraf was the Culprit

PAKISTAN TODAY:

On the Frontier of Apocalypse: Christopher Hitchens seminal article on Pakistan today
http://newsstuff.0catch.com/article5.htm

http://meaindia.nic.in/bestoftheweb/2002/10/14bow2.htm

A Slender Reed in Pakistan - Editorial in the Christian Science Monitor
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1229/p08s03-comv.html

Seymour Hersh Interview
http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_hersh.html

Pakistan's Nuclear Crimes (Wash. Post editorial)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dy ... 2-2004Feb4

http://www.indiadefence.com/LOA07Aug04.htm

The Battle for Pakistan: Militancy and Conflict in Pakistan's Tribal Regions
http://counterterrorism.newamerica.net/ ... r_pakistan

BOOK REVIEW Fulcrum of Evil: ISI-CIA-Al Qaeda Nexus
http://www.southasiaanalysis.org/%5Cpap ... r1844.html

Article from Vinni Capelli - Foreign Policy Research Institute:
Containing Pakistan: Engaging the Raja-Mandala in South-Central Asia
http://www.fpri.org/orbis/5101/cappelli ... kistan.pdf

The videos are from this documentary: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/

A bomb at all cost By Ahmad Faruqui - a candid admission of the wars that Pakistan started against India.

Popular support for suicide bombings in pakistan.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 008_pg12_1
Survey by university students in karachi say 50% of respondents support suicide bombings in kashmir.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OWsmJIwe9Q4
"Descent into Chaos"
UC Berkeley Conversations with History, host Harry Kreisler talking with Pakistani Journalist Ahmed Rashid. 59 minutes 120 MB. It sums up Pakistan and lays bare all Pakistan's terrorist support and proliferation activities. **Note - he wants the US to solve Pakistan's Kashmir problem.

Pakistan on the brink: Video Link (must download)

MISCELLANEOUS

Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto telling Bangladeshis to "Go to Hell": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsxfyxa ... re=related

IDSA's weekly summary of Pak Urdu Press:

http://www.idsa.in/pup
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Five installment series by Kapil Komireddi published in Frum Forum

Part I. Nov 16, 2009. “Pakistan In Crisis”.

Part II. Nov 18. 2009. “Pakistan: Origins of A Failed State”.

Part III. Nov 18, 2009. “Pakistan: It Could Not Succeed Unless India Failed”.

Part IV. Dec 06, 2009. “Pakistan: A Mecca for Radical Islam”.

Part V. Dec. 07, 2009. “Pakistan’s Army: Building a Nation for Jihad

A perceptive blog on Pakistan: http://pak-watch.blogspot.com/

Declassified documents from US National Archives on Pakistan:

http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/pakistan.htm
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Admission of state sponsored terrorism by Pakistani authorities


see this Der Spigel Interview where Musharraf admits to that.

On 7th Nov in TimesNow Channel, Tasneem Noorani, a former Secretary of the Pakistani Interior Ministry, openly said that.

Kiyani called the Haqqanis as strategic assets.

In Dec. 2008, President Zardari himself admitted to ISI helping LeT. He said,"The links between the Inter-Services Intelligence Agency and the LeT were developed in the old days when dictators used to run the country. After the 9/11 terror attacks in the US, things have changed to a great extent"

In an address to bureaucrats in July 2009, President Zardari said: "Militants and extremists were deliberately created and nurtured as a policy to achieve some short-term tactical objectives. Let us be truthful to ourselves and make a candid admission of the realities. The terrorists of today were the heroes of yesteryears until 9/11 occurred and they began to haunt us as well"

In Nov. 2009, Prime Minister Gilani admitted to the support for terrorism by Musharraf as "running with the hares and hunting with the hounds".

When Bush warned the Pakistanis in August 2008 of their support to Al Qaeda, Afrasiab Khattak, President of Awami National Party (ANP) said this: "The question is why it has taken the Americans so long to see what the ISI is doing. We’ve been telling them for years but they wouldn’t buy it.". See here.

In an interview to the BBC as far back as on Feb. 13, 1994, Benazir Bhutto admitted how she handed over to Rajiv Gandhi the complete list of Sikh activists colluding with the ISI in terrorism in the Punjab. Later, Nawaz Sharif described this interview as a faux pas.

Apart from these, of course, numerous Pakistani commentators, analysts, and editors have openly admitted to terror as a state policy.

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A Venn diagram, by Shiv, to illustrate the commonality and difference between "bad Taliban" and Jinnah's Pakistan.


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Why Did Pakistan's Spy Chief Make a Secret Trip to China?
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Pasha's China trip has been interpreted by some as a tacit act of defiance—a reminder to his American counterparts that the Pakistanis can always look east to their “all-weather” friend across the Himalayas rather than bend the knee to the will of the U.S.

But it also may be a sign of China's growing disquiet with Pakistan. Another top-ranking Pakistani military officer, Lt. Gen Wahid Arshad, had already conducted a considerable tour of China just weeks ago in a bid to improve ties. A few analysts have suggested that Pasha's trip — couched in vague terms about building a “broad-based strategic dialogue” — may have been less a visit and more of a summons.


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Chinese officials claimed the attacks in Kashgar were authored by the shadowy East Turkestan Islamic Movement, a jihadist organization of mostly ethnic Uighurs, a Turkic Muslim minority that comprises the majority in the far-western Chinese region of Xinjiang. China routinely invokes the specter of the terrorist threat when cracking down on dissent in the restive region. Yet disturbances there tend to be triggered more often by social discontent — many Uighurs chafe at state policies they deem discriminatory and marginalizing — than militant connivance. Pasha's presence in Beijing may mark Beijing's continued efforts to root out Uighur dissidents and sympathizers beyond China's borders, as it has already done in Kazakhstan.

Youtube video: Bilatakalluf with Tahif Gora: Tarek Fateh dissects with Pakjabi society and shows how its war-impotent Army loots the common Pakistani (Jan 13, 2012)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

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Bismillah the new dhaga with with this biratherly news
Pakistan is like India's younger brother and if relations between the two neighbours improve, they will be super powers, SP supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav has said."Pakistan is like our younger brother. If we stand by each other, we will be super powers and no one can challenge us,"
Yadav said while addressing convocation ceremony of a private university in Moradabad on Wednesday.
He alleged the Centre was not taking efforts to improve relations between the two neighbours.
The government was turning a blind eye to "negative" activities of China and only concentrating on Pakistan's "weaknesses", he said.
Addressing the gathering, Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav said the right combination of "triple E"-education, employment and energy - was the key to success.

Waiting for some reaction if any. I am sure Pukistan does not need any help to be the super power.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby pankajs » 21 Feb 2013 19:05

MJ Abkar @ Simon Fraser University - Canada (1 hr 22 min)



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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 21 Feb 2013 20:39

mahadevbhu replied in OT dhaaga

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby AbhiJ » 21 Feb 2013 21:04

May Allah not have Mercy on Pakistan!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem Kumar » 21 Feb 2013 22:03

'Zero Dark Thirty' unofficially banned in Pakistan

Well done Bakistan.

I am outraged! Yindians invented Zero and are dark. Zero Dark Thirty should have been a movie about India, not Pakistan!

A movie about Pakistan should be rightly called "Pure Fair 72"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby member_23858 » 21 Feb 2013 22:11

kenop wrote:Bismillah the new dhaga with with this biratherly news
Pakistan is like India's younger brother and if relations between the two neighbours improve, they will be super powers, SP supremo Mulayam Singh Yadav has said."Pakistan is like our younger brother. If we stand by each other, we will be super powers and no one can challenge us,"
Yadav said while addressing convocation ceremony of a private university in Moradabad on Wednesday.
He alleged the Centre was not taking efforts to improve relations between the two neighbours.
The government was turning a blind eye to "negative" activities of China and only concentrating on Pakistan's "weaknesses", he said.
Addressing the gathering, Uttar Pradesh chief minister Akhilesh Yadav said the right combination of "triple E"-education, employment and energy - was the key to success.

Waiting for some reaction if any. I am sure Pukistan does not need any help to be the super power.


He might not understand that it is rather difficult to be brothers and improve relations when one of the two PARTIES (refuse to call porkis our brothers :evil: ) is holding a sword on the neck of the other.
If we stand by each other, we will be super powers and no one can challenge us,"

Is there An IQ requirement for Indian leaders??? something like Not more than 30-40?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Comer » 21 Feb 2013 22:12

James B wrote:Birkin Babe's New Restaurant

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The ambience at the Polo Lounge is serene and reeks of old money, a lot like its owner, some would say. After all, the fine-dining restaurant is Hina Rabbani Khar's 'baby'. On the menu are steak, prawn and lobster - quite fittingly "foreign" for an eatery owned by Pakistan's foreign minister.


Checked tripadvisor's link on this "fine-dining" and "reeks of old money" joint, though LaWhore and not Slumabad:

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserRevi ... vince.html

Price range: $10 - $15


And this is upscale in Al-Bakistan, assuming per person.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rajsunder » 22 Feb 2013 05:14

Prem Kumar wrote:'Zero Dark Thirty' unofficially banned in Pakistan

Well done Bakistan.

I am outraged! Yindians invented Zero and are dark. Zero Dark Thirty should have been a movie about India, not Pakistan!

A movie about Pakistan should be rightly called "Pure Fair 72"

As always, porkistan fears TRUTH.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby jash_p » 22 Feb 2013 07:47

Prem Kumar

'Zero Dark Thirty' unofficially banned in Pakistan

Well done Bakistan.

I am outraged! Yindians invented Zero and are dark. Zero Dark Thirty should have been a movie about India, not Pakistan!

A movie about Pakistan should be rightly called "Pure Fair 72"


In shias there are many numeric sects like Twelver (believe in 12 Imam), Fivers(believe in 5 Imam) Paki shias are seventy twoers (wajibul destine for 72) so hence forth we will call Paki shias as as seventy twoers

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 22 Feb 2013 07:54

Hazara killers — supported from Punjab to the Middle East
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In the aftermath of the Quetta massacre, the arrests of a few Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) militants have been looked upon warily as nothing more than a ploy to placate an angry nation.If there was sincerity and strategic considerations behind this move, however, the headquarters of the Sunni extremist group in Punjab would have been dismantled much earlier.But with elections approaching, a full-fledged and whole-hearted operation against such militant groups seems highly unlikely, especially in the Punjab, the breeding ground of sectarian militants. This has much to do with the fact that in Punjab, extremist and militant groups have a strong electoral presence.“I doubt that there will be a real crackdown,” says author and journalist, Zahid Hussain, talking to Dawn.com: “The Punjab government has been looking the other way for too long and pursues the policy of appeasement.” He added that it had even made a covert deal for the release of LeJ leader Malik Ishaq.Seconding Hussain, defence analyst Hasan Askari Rizvi added: “The Punjab Government is known for patronising the LeJ and (its predecessor) Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP).”But it’s not only the Punjab government complicit in the inaction against extremist sectarian outfits. The centre hasn’t appeared earnest about the issue either.Hussain has serious reservations about Pakistan’s National Counter Terrorism Authority, for example. The authority was created in 2009 under an executive order. “It remains dormant and a toothless body because the bill has yet to be passed in the National Assembly. There is also the unresolved matter of whether it should fall under the umbrella of the interior ministry when in the original charter, it was to be under the prime minister,” he explainsAccording to Rizvi, “Organisations like the LeJ, the SSP and the Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat (ASWJ) are politically convenient, especially for all the Punjab-based political parties and even the present Punjab government – and they will not go beyond a certain point to enrage them.”
“So while they will condemn acts of sectarian attacks and militancy, they will never muster the courage to condemn a particular group,” he explains.In addition, says Rizvi, these groups have embedded themselves in society by setting up schools, hospitals, mosques and other welfare organisations and created a strong support base, including those in the lower ranks of the police and the intelligence agencies.”“There is no place left in Quetta that remains safe for Hazaras, be it an educational institution, school, bus stops, government offices or a marketplace. Public space is increasingly shrinking for us.”It is very easy for the LeJ, a predominantly Punjabi group to thrive in Balochistan, he further explai.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 22 Feb 2013 08:13

Pakistani Islamic society making less and less sense
Islam Have Established Itself In Pakistan. Peace Be Upon Them

f we had to come to this why did we go through the trouble of Partition? I have wanted to ask this question for years but never could bring up the courage to frame it thus. (BC wished the Poakshit on us Indians)After all, how can one question the basis of one’s existence?But as we continue to invent ever more elaborate forms of extremism and violence – killing in the name of our higher faith and exulting no end when the wages of barbarism are impressive – this question returns to haunt me.I can understand our helplessness, or rather the army’s helplessness, in getting hold of someone like Hakeemullah Mehsud. He is in the mountains where our troops cannot go, perhaps for perfectly valid military reasons. It was not easy for the Americans to fight the Viet Cong and the Taliban plus Al-Qaeda are our Viet Cong. The Lashkar-e-Jhangvi claims proud responsibility for the Hazara massacres and while in Balochistan this may be a shadowy outfit, although there are enough reasons to think this is not the case, aren’t we aware that elements connected to this outfit, or mutations from it, are to be found across the four corners of the holy province of Punjab? Will anyone do anything about them? We’ll look and sound tough, count on this, but perish the thought of anyone actually doing something.Our jihadis used to dream of planting the green flag on the Delhi Red Fort or creating fanciful emirates in Central Asia. Those proving arduous undertakings, they have embarked upon a new jihad – conquering Pakistan from within. ( Masaa Allah , All Ham DHo Killah)

Sinners of my age are in a strange kind of bind. We remember Pakistan as it used to be, no ideal kingdom to be sure but for all its faults a good place to be in. And now this onslaught of ignorance and illiteracy, the population breeding as if the end of the world is at hand and a laughable class of people claiming the mantle of national leadership, each luminary of this class a bigger hypocrite than the fellow standing next to himThis is a tale of two countries, both named Pakistan. The Pakistan created in 1947 collapsed amidst the tumult of the 1971 war, the two-nation theory plunging into the waters of the Bay of Bengal. In the aftermath of that self-propelled disaster Zulfikar Ali Bhutto proclaimed the birth of a new Pakistan.. But learning nothing from history we have allowed that thing of fantasy to come to its present pass, a cockpit of some of the most confused ideologies to be found anywhere on the planet.With our national energies thus crippled how on earth do we get our priorities right? How on earth do we fix our economy and break our begging bowl, and bring out the potentiality of a people still able to achieve so much if only there was someone to light their path and show them the way?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 22 Feb 2013 08:24

Track 2'ers from Pakistan are singing a new tune.

Apparently both India and Pakistan need to protest to Saudi Arabia and stop funding from gulf for LeT and LeJ because they cause so much carnage in respective countries. :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Baikul » 22 Feb 2013 10:09

Jhujar wrote: Pakistani Islamic society making less and less sense
Islam Have Established Itself In Pakistan. Peace Be Upon Them

If we had to come to this why did we go through the trouble of Partition?


Allow me to answer Mr Amir- so that the loonies, the scoundrels and the murderers could be confined within the walls of the vast prison that is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby sanjaykumar » 22 Feb 2013 10:11

So that Hindoo prejudices of a violent, uncivilised rabble could be demonstrated to be rooted in reality?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 22 Feb 2013 11:05

Jhujar wrote: Pakistani Islamic society making less and less sense
We remember Pakistan as it used to be, no ideal kingdom to be sure but for all its faults a good place to be in.

The above caught my eye and that is a blatant lie. Pakistan was never a good place to be in for the Pashtuns, for the Balochis, for the Bengalis, for the Hindus, for the Anglo-Indians, for the Ahmedis, for the Shi'a from the very beginning. They were systematically targetted and every passing year saw the screw tightening by a few grooves. During certain periods (such as ZAB or Zia), the screw was tightened rapidly and up a lot of notches but it was anyway going up only one way since August 14, 1947.

May be it was a good place to be in for Sunnis and now even that is getting shattered as only Deobandi/Wahhabi/Salafi/Takfiri brand of Sunni Islam is being allowed and the rest are being systematically eliminated just like what they did to the other groups in the 50s, 60s, 70s.

To claim therefore what the author claims is falsehood and he is whining because he is under attack today.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Baikul » 22 Feb 2013 12:47

^^^

In other words:

Massive (!) Historic (!) and Unprecedented (!) investment of $45billion as claimed by Bakistanis == Cancelled MOU for the other party. :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Comer » 22 Feb 2013 14:14

:rotfl: is this the same project touted as the world's tallest building planned in kraachi? if not we can await one more denial. One separate thread is required for bombast and denial.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rajanb » 22 Feb 2013 14:22

This thread is beginning to sound as Terrorist Republic of Denialistan. :D

Pretty soon they will deny, that they even exist! Since they are already denying the original reason of why they came into existence. (As a safe place for Muslims.)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 22 Feb 2013 14:29

rajanb wrote:This thread is beginning to sound as Terrorist Republic of Denialistan.

rajanb, plausible deniability was the core ethos of Pakistan for all its misdeeds until the entire facade came tumbling down in the last decade or so. Of course, nowadays, TSP is brazen about its tactics.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Comer » 22 Feb 2013 15:24

Like how droneacharya is the national bird, schrodinger's pig should be the national animal of Al Bakistan. A citizen can be both state and non state actor. A project can be signed and not signed at the same time. A war is won and lost simultaneously. Truly Djinn physics.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RajeshA » 22 Feb 2013 16:59

partha wrote:CLARIFICATION ON BEHALF OF THE ABU DHABI GROUP


Poor Bakis! Ab Baki hi kya bacchaa hai?! Such Humiliation!

:rotfl:

There must be some national award to get some bositive news for Bakistan from somewhere? Alas, even there were some such reward, who will be able to claim it?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 22 Feb 2013 18:07

saravana wrote::rotfl: is this the same project touted as the world's tallest building planned in kraachi? if not we can await one more denial. One separate thread is required for bombast and denial.


Now, it will be a one story tenement for the homeless and the distraught in the land of plenty.

BTW, this was an MOU (non-binding, photo op ploy) between this dubious Abu Dhabi group and the paki magician to provide technical assistance over a period of 15 - 20 years to help the development of the Bahria Township. The paki group's overly optimistic estimate of the total value of the township, once fully developed and functioning, would be around $45Bn (including inflation of 20% at current rates and based on today's PkR - Dollar parity).

Paki faithfuls heard the term $45Bn and took it to the bank (and the press) literally. What's even funnier was the claim that it would provide employment to a million or two people!! Wow! That's $45K per zero-value momeen. Momentary happiness and whoops of joy all around and then.... reality sets in and there is darkness until the next outburst of baseless projections of unbelievable proportions.

There used to be a magician in India called Gogia Pasha in the 60's when I was a pre-teen. He would use the phrase "Gilli - Gilli - Gilli" before each act and presto!...Magic! Every time the pakis come up with such fantastic projections, I remember the same phrase.."Gilli - Gilli - Gilli".

Magic!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 22 Feb 2013 18:08

rajanb wrote:This thread is beginning to sound as Terrorist Republic of Denialistan. :D

Pretty soon they will deny, that they even exist! Since they are already denying the original reason of why they came into existence. (As a safe place for Muslims.)


De Nile is a river in al bakistan. Its their Ganga, Jamuna and Saraswati...all combined. Didn't you know?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 22 Feb 2013 18:11

Baikul wrote:Allow me to answer Mr Amir- so that the loonies, the scoundrels and the murderers could be confined within the walls of the vast prison that is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.


Except that half of the loonies, scoundrels and murderers are still out.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby CRamS » 22 Feb 2013 18:51

I don't think this NYT op-ed by Uber TSP RAPE Moshin Hamid has been posted, but here it is. Puke Watch: Yes, TSP has lots of terrorist scum, yes we (TSP) are using them to hit India, but the "world" should not allow the rising Indian middle class to demand any retaliation, they must just absorb the terror attacks, because there TSPians are "piss loving" onlee

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/22/opini ... peace.html

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 22 Feb 2013 18:54

LeJ leader Malik Ishaque arrested for Quetta Shi'a killing - DAWN
The arrest comes a day after the Pakistan Army emphatically denied it maintained any links with the banned terror outfit. “The armed forces were not in contact with any militant organisation, including Lashkar-i-Jhangvi,” ISPR chief Maj-Gen Asim Bajwa told a media briefing on Thursday.

“There is no reason to think about army’s involvement with LJ,” the Dawn newspaper quoted Gen Bajwa as saying.

Human rights organisations have accused the army and its intelligence agencies of maintaining links with Lashkar-i-Jhangvi.

The allegations stem from the army using Ishaq for negotiating with the terrorists who had attacked the military headquarters in October 2009. Ishaq’s subsequent release from jail was sceptically seen as a deal. The escape of LJ’s operational commander in Balochistan, Usman Saifullah Kurd, in 2008 from a detention facility in the military Cantonment in Quetta has also raised questions.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rsingh » 22 Feb 2013 19:28

Baikul wrote:^^^

In other words:

Massive (!) Historic (!) and Unprecedented (!) investment of $45billion as claimed by Bakistanis == Cancelled MOU for the other party. :rotfl:


La whole villa quwat. What will happen to the people like me who already bought apartments in the building. Until yesterday Baharia Chacha "Dubaiwalle" was selling apartments for like "hot buffalo knee". I bought mine on 72nd floor.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby akashganga » 22 Feb 2013 19:30

pankajs wrote:MJ Abkar @ Simon Fraser University - Canada (1 hr 22 min)



My thoughts on the so called moderate muslim after watching MJ's full show. He says Jinnah changed his stance from homeland for muslims to homeland for islam. He also praises Jinnah for being truly secular. Jinnah is an example of a secular muslim home who played a major role in creation of a homeland for islam. Any hindu leader who even mentions homeland for hindus would have been shotdown by mainstream media and termed fanatic. MJ says the reason for Pakistan being in a mess was because Jinnah founded the country for islam. Had he founded the country instead for muslims Pakistan would not have been like this. This is madrassa logic. I am not surprised that a so called muslim intellectual talks like this. MJ says that shia/sunni split occured immediately after prophet died and it is political. What kind of political fight is this which lasted for 1300 years and still counting. The shia/sunni is just a family feud in the prophet family and the followers of this faith around the world are involved in this feud killing each other. MJ talks about democracy. One thing he did not point out is freedom of speach which includes freedom to criticize any religion openly. This freedom is dear to US where anyone can criticize any region. I can go on and on. This shows that even the so called muslim intellectual who is intelligent and can quote from history does not go anywhere near Koran or the founder. On the plus side I give him credit for defending and articulating the progress made by India since independence. My 2 cents.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 22 Feb 2013 19:54

RajeshA wrote:
partha wrote:CLARIFICATION ON BEHALF OF THE ABU DHABI GROUP

Poor Bakis! Ab Baki hi kya bacchaa hai?! Such Humiliation!
:rotfl: There must be some national award to get some bositive news for Bakistan from somewhere? Alas, even there were some such reward, who will be able to claim it?


The Gupp of Poasapp was always under Shakk and now their H &D is publicly Ph..ked.
This qualify as the longest, thickest and the biggest crooked finger of 2013 n the Mush of Poakillstan.
Pakistan is the Safeland / homeland of South Asian Musalmans but the tragedy is its 99.99% full of Kaffirs and Munafqins deserving Merciful Qital.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Comer » 22 Feb 2013 20:41

partha wrote:
Raja Bose wrote:
Brad Goodman wrote:
Sunil Gavaskar denies reports of his involvement with PPL http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-04/top-stories/34259545_1_sunil-gavaskar-pakistan-premier-league-wasim-akram

What else to expect from the Pakis. When they have had no good news for the last 50 years, all they can do is manufacture them.

1st, it was LinkedIn opening an office in Pakistan - DENIED.
After that, it was Putin visiting Pakistan - DENIED.
Now, it is Sunil Gavaskar helping set up the PPL - DENIED.


Japan offering $4B funding for Basha dam - DENIED.
Bill Gates inviting Pakistani student - DENIED (http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/05/28/microsoft-denies-inviting-pakistani-student-by-bill-gates/#.UG50Yfl27cY)
Bangladesh Cricket Board agreeing to tour Pakistan - DENIED (http://cricket.yahoo.com/news/bcb-chief-denies-committing-pak-tour-return-pcb-063008451.html)
Salman Khan and Katrina attending Pakistani awards function - DENIED (http://tribune.com.pk/story/405801/katrina-kaif-salman-khan-at-lsa-not-in-this-security-situation/)


SG involvement in PPL should be the best
Looking at the state of Pakistan, I won't be surprised if Jinnah comes back from the grave and denies having created Pakistan.


Adding to this wonderful collection:

Apology for 72ing napaks - DENIED
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6450&hilit=denial&start=0#p1348229

Anujan wrote:And this funny one:
NATO airstrike: Kerry to visit Pakistan with ‘formal apology’
http://tribune.com.pk/story/367375/nato-airstrike-kerry-to-visit-pakistan-with-formal-apology/
Influential US senator would likely offer a formal public apology on behalf of the Obama Administration over the Nato airstrikes on a Pakistani check post in November last year.


One day later:
US apology further delayed {Note: it is going to come, just delayed.}
http://dawn.com/2012/04/21/us-apology-further-delayed/

One more day later:
Senator Kerry not planning visit to Pakistan: Spokesperson
http://tribune.com.pk/story/367976/kerry-not-planning-visit-to-pakistan-white-house-spokesperson/
As opposed to previous reports of US senator John Kerry’s visit to Pakistan on US President Obama’s directive, the senator’s spokesperson Jodi Seth has claimed that no such visit has been scheduled, nor has the US president issued any such request.




Exporting Murree beer - DENIED
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6450&p=1365003&hilit=denial#p1365003

Saravana wrote:Pakiness on display

http://dawn.com/2012/11/16/banned-at-home-pakistan-brewery-seizes-hollywood-moment/

“Demi Moore and Bruce Willis’ daughter gave us multi-million dollars worth of publicity by default. We plan to go to the United States and make a queue to hug both the daughter and the mother,” Sabih ur Rehman, special assistant to the chief executive, joked with Reuters.


Typical Paki bombast followed by denial by the concerned party.

The Pakistani brewery said it has reached an agreement with the Czech Republic’s Zatec Brewery initially to produce at least 5,000 cases, each containing 24 bottles of Murree Beer, annually from next year. That amount will double in 2015, Rehman said.
However, the managing director of Zatec Brewery, Martin Kec, said he knew nothing of this arrangement and his firm had only produced a very small amount of Murree Beer in the past.


And as usual, bite the hand that feeds you.

But company officials are hopeful, particularly for the US market. “Americans will drink anything. They are like fish,” Rehman said.



tallest slum - DENIED
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6533&p=1414971&hilit=denial#p1414875



Added later:
French civil nuclear technology transfer - DENIED
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8052587.stm

South Korea emulated Al Bakistan - DENIED
shiv wrote:Cross post
Arjun wrote:
Someone, either Somnath or Cosmo, had made a reference sometime back on these pages to South Korea having regarded Pakistan as an economic model in the sixties.

Here's a detailed article that demolishes this popular Pakistani urban myth. Apologies if this has already been posted earlier.

Learning from Korea
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=221496&Cat=9&dt=1/30/2010
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby kenop » 22 Feb 2013 20:53

There is absolutely no cause to fear that there will be diminishing of interest from any of the arap four phathers.
They will keep their commitment to kill the wildlife of Pakistan till it is no longer possible.
Licenses renewed recently for the gulf dignitaries
For the hoi polloi from other countries.
Puki boars are available for a fee as usual

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 22 Feb 2013 20:58

Pakistani man accuses ambassador to U.S. of blasphemy

Sherry Fass Gye

MULTAN, Pakistan (Reuters) - Pakistani police registered an accusation from a businessman on Thursday that the country's ambassador to the United States had committed blasphemy, a crime that carries the death penalty, in connection with a 2010 TV talk show.The accusation against Ambassador Sherry Rehman is the latest in a string of controversial blasphemy cases in Pakistan, a largely Muslim nation whose name translates as Land of the Pure.According to Pakistan's blasphemy laws, anyone found to have uttered words derogatory to the Prophet Muhammad can be put to death. Those who are accused are sometimes lynched by mobs even before they reach court.Rehman has already faced death threats from militants after calling for reforms to the country's anti-blasphemy law, according to court documents. Two politicians who suggested reforming the law were assassinated.
The case against Rehman was brought by businessman Muhammad Faheem Gill, 31, who said that the comments Rehman made about the law on the Pakistani talk show in 2010 were blasphemous."I've been trying to get this case registered for the last three years, ever since I saw that TV show," Gill told Reuters. "I've even gone to the highest court. I'm glad that action will finally be taken now."Gill went to the Supreme Court with his complaint after police refused to register it. The court ordered police in the central Pakistani city of Multan to investigate.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby habal » 22 Feb 2013 21:07

he has just paved way for sherry to get US vija.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby pankajs » 22 Feb 2013 21:20

Pakistan State Oil ‘on its knees’, more blackouts threatened
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan State Oil may default on payments due this month unless state-run companies at least partially pay for their oil, a spokeswoman said on Thursday, putting energy supply at risk and threatening increased blackouts ahead of key elections.

The country’s largest energy company said last week it would be dramatically cutting back on the amount of oil companies can buy on credit, an action that would worsen already daily power cuts.

The power shortages have sparked violent protests and crippled key industries, costing hundreds of thousands of jobs in a country already beset by high unemployment, poverty and a local Taliban insurgency.

I was under the impression that 'On the Knees' was the correct position for Bakistan, perhaps I was wrong. And where are their 4 fathers when they really need them.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RajeshA » 22 Feb 2013 23:01

pankajs wrote:I was under the impression that 'On the Knees' was the correct position for Bakistan, perhaps I was wrong. And where are their 4 fathers when they really need them.

Four fathers come only when Bakis are on their knees, for then the four fathers know that Bakis are ready, but Bakis should not raise their hopes too much regarding payment.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby saip » 23 Feb 2013 01:15

To the list of Announced and Denied you can add one more. Iran building a refinery in Gawder.

US cautions Islamabad against ‘sanctionbale’ activities

Link

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby partha » 23 Feb 2013 02:00

saip wrote:To the list of Announced and Denied you can add one more. Iran building a refinery in Gawder.


400%.
1) Who in their right mind will risk investing $4B in Pakistan?
2) Only Paki news outlets have carried the reports.
3) No statement about it from Iran. Some Paki babu just announced it.


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