Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 04 Mar 2013 01:10


33 gives second degree passing mark to the IED Mubarak Master.

Khud Ko Kar Khudi se Buland itna
Ki Jannat Mei Pahunchne se pehley
Hoor Raste mey hi Pakkar ley
Orr apne aap se Pooche
Lagta Hai Pakistan se ayya Hai ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Cosmo_R » 04 Mar 2013 02:17

JE Menon wrote:Are they sure it's twin blasts?


They are iedentical

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 04 Mar 2013 02:56

look what pakis are doing

Pakistani asylum seekers end church occupation

VIENNA: A group of mainly Pakistani asylum-seekers who have been occupying a central Vienna church since mid-December moved out on Sunday and into a monastery where they have been offered shelter, organisers said.

The high-profile protest, which involved some in the group consuming only clear soup and liquids for a month, was to press for better conditions for refugees in Austria and the European Union.

“We are happy that we can continue our efforts towards obtaining better conditions for refugees and a safe future for all in a new, open place and in regular accommodation,” said Adalat Khan, a spokesman for the protestors.

The number of people taking part in the protest in the freezing-cold church varied between several dozen and a handful. Doctors had expressed serious concerns for the health of those on hunger strike.

The protesters’ demands included being able to choose where they live, access to jobs, schools and social security, and a halt to forced deportations.

But beyond promising to improve the provision of interpreters the government gave few concessions. afp



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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 04 Mar 2013 03:02

India asks Pakistan to seek NoCs for projects in GB, AJK POK

India has asked Pakistan to get no objection certificates (NoCs) from New Delhi for building all the hydropower projects being completed in Gilgit-Baltistan (GB) and AJK involving funding of international donor agencies.
India has also asked Pakistan to provide detailed information about all hydropower projects being built in Gilgit-Baltistan with the funding of these international donors.
This has been communicated to Pakistan in the latest correspondence in which India has again declared Gilgit-Baltistan as its integral part.
The World Bank currently believed to be under the influence of the Indians who occupy top slots, has already refused the funding for the most strategic project of the Diamer-Bhasha dam linking it with an NoC from India.
The most revealing and perturbing disclosure is that this is the same bank that has leaked the information to New Delhi that Pakistan is building hydropower projects in Shebratan and Chilas in Gilgit-Baltistan, the correspondence reveals.

In a letter of the Foreign Affairs Director General South Asia of the Foreign Ministry written on November 28, 2012 to the Ministry of Water and Power, of which a copy is available with The News, it has been revealed that India has sought detailed information about the hydropower projects being built in Gilgit-Baltistan as New Delhi is of the view that Pakistan needs its NoCs for building all kinds of hydropower projects in Gilgit-Baltistan and AJK as the said areas are ‘integral parts of India’.

However, the letter’s excerpt shows that the Pakistan high commissioner in New Delhi has rejected the Indian assertions about Gilgit-Baltistan being an integral part of India. The Pakistan high commissioner, however, asked the authorities in Islamabad to provide information about the projects and the donor agencies from which assistance has been sought.

The high commissioner of Pakistan, according to the letter, has recommended to the Ministry of Water and Power to discourage donor agencies from seeking India’s concurrence for projects in AJK and Gilgit-Baltistan.

The letter written by Zehra Akbari, DG South Asia in Foreign Affairs, to Nargis Sethi, the then Secretary of Water and Power, on November 28, 2012 says: “Our high commissioner in New Delhi has conveyed vide his telegram of 23 November 2012 that the Indian Ministry of External Affairs has made a verbal demarche to protest Pakistan’s plans to build hydel power projects at Shebratan and Chilas in Gilgit-Baltistan and also to seek donors’ assistance for these projects. They had learned about these projects from the World Bank. Indians said that the area was an integral part of India. Our high commissioner rejected the Indian assertions about Gilgit-Baltistan being integral part of India. The high commissioner has requested information about the projects and the donor agencies from which assistance has been sought. The India high commission has also recommended that the concerned ministry should discourage donor agencies from seeking India’s NoC for the projects in AJK and Gilgit-Baltistan.”
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 04 Mar 2013 03:02

Pakistanis are being discriminated. It is clear that the Church owners are going to treat them badly. They should demand a portion of the church be given to them, so Pakistanis can live there without fear and with good treatment. I personally support this two church theory.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 04 Mar 2013 03:08

Militants bomb four schools in Mohmand tribal region

Suspected Taliban militants bombed four boys’ schools in Pakistan’s northwestern tribal belt on Thursday, officials said, in the latest attack by militants on government educational institutions.


Only difference is now it is boys school. So looks like after girls schools are shut down they also want to make sure nanhas dont goto school as well

“All the four schools were completely destroyed, the number of schools destroyed in Mohmand is now more than 100,” Ali said.

Extremist militants opposed to co-education have destroyed hundreds of schools, mostly for girls, in northwest Pakistan in recent years.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 04 Mar 2013 03:12

After getting sick of fielding proxy candidates paki army has decided to field their own for the first time in election

Pakistani transgender candidate to run for office
It will also be the first time Pakistan’s estimated 500,000 “eunuchs” are eligible to seek office, after the Supreme Court in 2011 ordered the government to issue them with identity cards and to register them as voters.


But in a conservative Muslim country where sexual relations outside marriage are taboo and homosexuality is illegal, “eunuchs” are treated as sex objects and often become the victims of assault, ending up as beggars and prostitutes.


Exactly how massa treats them

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby a_bharat » 04 Mar 2013 06:20

It will also be the first time Pakistan’s estimated 500,000 “eunuchs” are eligible to seek office,


According to wikipedia, pak army has an active force of 620,000 personnel.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RCase » 04 Mar 2013 06:56

Since CNG cylinders in Shia territory are fair game for the IEDology of Pakistan, shouldn't the taliban come up with fatwas to declare the Shia Iran- Pakistan gas pipeline as haram and threaten gas pipe explosions?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 04 Mar 2013 09:29

Pakhtuns and Muhajirs are victims of conspiracy: Altaf

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2013\03\04\story_4-3-2013_pg1_4
ISLAMABAD: Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain said on Sunday that “hidden (Pakjabi ) forces” have conspired to pit Pakhtuns and Mohajirs against each other to keep both the ethnic groups under-developed.“The Pakjabi elements creating differences between Pakhtuns and Mohajirs must be exposed,” Altaf urged while addressing the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Convention, which was organised by the MQM at the Kashmir House. The convention, first of its kind by the MQM to reach out to the people of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ahead of the forthcoming general elections was well-attended with participation from various parts of the province, especially the Hazara region.Addressing the participants via telephone, Altaf asserted that there is no conflict between the two communities and their members are being killed under a conspiracy. He even praised Bacha Khan and the ANP and said the MQM and ANP are both revolutionaries and peace-loving parties. Altaf claimed that apart from driving a wedge between the Pakhtuns and Mohajirs, attempts were being made to pitch Pakhtuns and Hazarawal against each other in the province. MQM chief took the credit of giving the name of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to former North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and said that his party demanded this name change to give identify to the people of the province because NWFP was a name given by British Raj. Altaf said he wanted a system based on justice in the country.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 04 Mar 2013 11:02

RCase wrote:Since CNG cylinders in Shia territory are fair game for the IEDology of Pakistan, shouldn't the taliban come up with fatwas to declare the Shia Iran- Pakistan gas pipeline as haram and threaten gas pipe explosions?


WHY they can use the extra gas provided by the Pipeline to blow Shias in Pakistan.

Does anyone see the Irony.

Pakistan buys the Gas on credit. Blows up Shias, does not pay up saying Terror incidents.

The Iranians have no defense, the Sunnis hate them, they can take up causes from Kashmir to Israel to Myanmar, but they are still going to be blown up.

BTW score as per TOI is 48 killed, 150 injured. Dont know how many of the 150 are critically injured.

One thing about the report though

Forty-eight dead, 150 injured in Karachi's Shia area bomb attack

Sindh province Health Secretary Suresh Kumar put the toll at 45. No group claimed responsibility for the attack.


Seems to Kaffir Hindus are involved a lot in the medical set up.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby vic » 04 Mar 2013 11:23

With so many injured, the century is likely to be reached. Pakis are trying to do one up on Hyderabad blasts.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Raja Bose » 04 Mar 2013 11:52

Anujan wrote:Pakistanis are being discriminated. It is clear that the Church owners are going to treat them badly. They should demand a portion of the church be given to them, so Pakistanis can live there without fear and with good treatment. I personally support this two church theory.


Denying the occupation of the church to this contingent of Pakistani diplomats will only strengthen the hands of extremists in Pakistan leading to a surge in blasphemy cases against Christians there.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RSoami » 04 Mar 2013 12:10

This is benis maal.
No more GUBO. :eek:

No more dictation- Pakistan tells donors in plain words.

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-1 ... lain-words

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Gagan » 04 Mar 2013 12:21

Hmm,
I wonder how long before these pakistanis who are taking refuge in a church, start burning it?

BTW, in that Shiekh Rashid ranting and panting video, did everyone notice when he talks about 4 religious groups that don't participate in politics, the 4th one he and the anchor referred to as "The other group"
Were they referring to the Ahmediya Muslims? Or to JUD?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RSoami » 04 Mar 2013 12:24

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world ... 205126.htm

4 policemen also killed the same night in Karachi drive by shootings.
Noone noticed.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 04 Mar 2013 12:25

4 is not material

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Gagan » 04 Mar 2013 12:44

^^^
The pakistanis and cheenis are doing a great job.
They just want to console the abduls and ayeshas by saying that Bolismen are dying too, so now aam abdul has no right to complain that the situation is bad for them only.

== onlee
Aditya_V wrote:4 is not material

AOA, truer words have never been spoken like this.
it should be 400 (%) to be of any value.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Neela » 04 Mar 2013 13:20

Aditya_V wrote:4 is not material

Neither are 30 million Shias.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 04 Mar 2013 13:39

Positive news from Pakistan. First South Asian Federal Judge is the US!! He has been nominated for U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This is a proud moment for all South Asians. Imagine how much more we can achieve with peace between India and Pakistan #AmanKiAsha

http://www.advancingequality.org/news-r ... dc-circuit

Nomination of Sri Srinivasan to the U.S. Court Of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby shiv » 04 Mar 2013 13:52

vic wrote:With so many injured, the century is likely to be reached.


Pah. Old news from yesterday. What about today? Quiet day in the land of the religion of peace?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Narad » 04 Mar 2013 14:41

Injured Shai Naval officer succumbs to wounds.
KARACHI: Lieutenant Commander S. Azeem Haider Kazmi of the Pakistan Navy, who targeted in an attack in Keamari area of the city on Feb 27, died of his wounds, DawnNews reported on Monday.

He was the second naval officer to have been targeted in less than a month.

http://Yawn.com/2013/03/04/naval-office ... to-wounds/

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 04 Mar 2013 14:55

Now some Jehadi could only sink those AGostas

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Charlie » 04 Mar 2013 16:32

Must read piece by Vali Nasr on FP

1) Insider scoop on the tussle between State Dept, White House and Holbroke on how to take care of munna
2) 11 page long with several verbatim quotes from Holbroke and others on Af-Pak
3) Holbroke wanted to give Pakis 50B but eventually settled for Kari-Lugar 7.5B
4) NSA James Jones promised a nuke deal to Pakis in exchange for cooperation but White House later took it off the table.

FP link

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 04 Mar 2013 16:49

"It is a global Kanspirasy onlee" says the master nut-job conspiracy theorist.

Imran sees ‘global conspiracy’ behind Pakistan sectarian violence

a larger “global conspiracy” exists behind fueling violence between Shia and Sunni sects in Pakistan
Similar to Iraq, Lebanon and Bahrain
“Zardari does not have the time to pay attention to the situation in the country,” he said. “These corrupt politicians have become billionaires in the past five years.”


Why it has to be a conspiracy by the crusaders? Because, no true milsum will even think of harming another milsum, let alone kill him. It is written in al kitab.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 04 Mar 2013 17:02

Second PN Shia Commander attacked within a month in Karachi - Dawn
Lieutenant Commander S. Azeem Haider Kazmi of the Pakistan Navy, who targeted in an attack in Keamari area of the city on Feb 27, died of his wounds, DawnNews reported on Monday.

His death was confirmed by family sources, according to a DawnNews report.

The officer was on his way to the Dockyard in his private car on Feb 27 when he was targeted by gunmen.

Police said the incident took place in front of the KPT Gate No 15 on the road connecting Jinnah Bridge to Keamari Harbour.

“Lieutenant Commander Syed Azeem Haider Kazmi was driving his private car and was heading to work when attacked at around 6.40am,” said SSP West Asif Ajaz Shaikh.

He was the second naval officer to have been targeted in less than a month.

Earlier on Feb 7, Lieutenant Commander Syed Asif Hussain Kazmi and his wife were injured when an improvised explosive planted beneath his car exploded in the premises of the PNS Karsaz.


And, what does jihadi Imran Khan say about sectarian violence ?

Imran sees global conspiracy behind Pakistan's sectarian violence

Oh yes. The 'Globe' determined 1400 years back that the best way to take on the Muslims of Pakistan was to divide them as Sunnis and Shi'a and incite one against another cunningly. The Chankian kafir Hanud joined hands with the Yahuds and the Nasaras and struck a deal 1400 years back because they did not know of any other method to overcome the Believers.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby arun » 04 Mar 2013 19:45

X Posted from the "Oppression of Minorities in Pakistan" thread.

Wire service Sapa-Dpa is reporting that the death toll in the demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan at Karachi has reached 52:

Karachi shuts down, bombing toll rises to 52

Meanwhile the funeral procession for the Shia victims of the Karachi demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan come under gunfire resulting in 1 dead and 14 injured:

One killed as funeral procession participants fired upon

For a country claimed to have been created to provide a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent , Mohammadden Pakistani’s are expert at ensuring that other fellow Mohammaddens belonging to other sects enjoy no such safe haven.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

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arun wrote:The Islamic Republic of Pakistan, a country self claimed to have been created to provide a safe haven to the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent, sees yet again an incident of Green on Green religion inspired Intra Mohammadden violence with a demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan killing two.

What is not clear though is if this demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan is the manifestation of an act of Green on Green Sectarian Shia-Sunni violence or Green on Green Sub-Sectarian Sunni Deobandi-Barelvi or some such like act of violence:

Bomb blast at shrine in Shikarpur kills two


Earlier event of Green on Green Intra-Mohammadden religion inspired violence by way a demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan at Shikarpur claims one more victim, namely the head of the shrine.

Still not clear though if this demonstration of the IEDology of Pakistan is the manifestation of an act of Green on Green Sectarian Shia-Sunni violence or Green on Green Sub-Sectarian Sunni Deobandi-Barelvi or some such like act of violence:

Shikarpur blast: the pir of the shrine succumbs to injuries

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rgsrini » 04 Mar 2013 21:03

A way out of terror mayhem
The fact that terrorist transported a huge quantity of explosives hidden in a “water tanker” through check posts and barriers undetected also raises suspicion.

This is how the Rajiv killer escaped from TN to Bangalore. An old idea being repurposed to smuggle explosives. Hope our security forces stay on the alert and include a way to check this.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Sagar G » 04 Mar 2013 21:15

Brad Goodman wrote:look what pakis are doing

Pakistani asylum seekers end church occupation


Definitely they must be given asylum, each and every paki wanting asylum in Europe must be given one. It's there right and Europe is the torch bearer of human rights how can it not allow pakis asylum ???

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

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arun wrote:
For a country claimed to have been created to provide a safe haven for the Mohammaddens of the Indian Sub-Continent , Mohammadden Pakistani’s are expert at ensuring that other fellow Mohammaddens belonging to other sects enjoy no such safe haven.

I challenge your views saar, Bakis are selfless onlee. The believe in sending every believer to jannat asap! :lol: After all, it was Djinn-ahs vision to create One true jannat where indus valley civilization once existed. Bakis are following their Four-Fathers onlee in creating the portal for that jannat in Bakistan :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 04 Mar 2013 23:08

Haram Di Aysha
'curriculum of hate'

In many chapters outlined by NCJP, modern Hindus are referred to as “gangsters” and Christians are referred to as “violent crusaders.”According to the report, the hate content in textbooks has more than doubled since the last time they were revised. For example, some 30 Grade 5 to 10 textbooks published in Punjab, examined in 2009, were found to have 12 instances of biased material that could be considered “hate content.” In 2012, the textbooks underwent a curriculum revision. After another review, the total number of quantifiable instances of questionable or factually incorrect material went up to 33, according to Peter Jacob, the study's author.Curriculum authorities respondWhen Pakistan’s Federal Textbook Board – a government body that authorizes and reviews content published in schoolbooks – was contacted, at first they denied that there was such content.When a Monitor correspondent confronted them with the latest report by NCJP, Riaz Ahmad, head of the government curriculum committee, promised to look into itWe try our best to check such content, but since our society belongs to religious people, it is tough to bring [such] changes,.“” Dr. Ahmak says, adding that the curriculum has to respect the society it is being taught in

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby svinayak » 05 Mar 2013 00:19

Anujan wrote:Positive news from Pakistan. First South Asian Federal Judge is the US!! He has been nominated for U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. This is a proud moment for all South Asians. Imagine how much more we can achieve with peace between India and Pakistan #AmanKiAsha

http://www.advancingequality.org/news-r ... dc-circuit

Nomination of Sri Srinivasan to the U.S. Court Of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit

Ymerican version of #AmanKiAsha

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rohitvats » 05 Mar 2013 00:27

That Foreign Policy article about Holbrooke by Vali Nasr is a must read.

It gives insight into what is fvcked up in the US Administration and why we are on our own when it comes to Afghanistan. It paints a saintly picture of Holbrooke and how he was right all along - that is, talk to Taliban, get a political deal/adjustment going and get out.

Basically, give the keys of Afghanistan back to Pakistan through their proxies and see the country go back to stone ages...or, whatever is left of it. Not a single word about getting Pakistan to give up on Taliban and letting Afghans be on their own.

No wonder TSPA feels that it can make Americans ch@@tiya - take their dollars and kill their soldiers via proxy.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby pankajs » 05 Mar 2013 00:38

South Florida imam found guilty of financially aiding Taliban terrorists in Pakistan - FoxNews
Prosecutors built their case largely around hundreds of FBI recordings of conversations in which Khan expressed support for Taliban attacks and discussed sending about $50,000 to Pakistan. There were also recordings in which Khan appeared to back the overthrow of Pakistan's government in favor of strict Islamic law, praised the killing of American military personnel and lauded the failed 2010 attempt to detonate a bomb in New York's Times Square.
Khan, who testified over four combative days in his own defense, insisted the money he sent overseas was for family, charity and business reasons — above all, his religious school, known as a madrassa, in Pakistan's Swat Valley. Khan also said he repeatedly lied about harboring extremist views to obtain $1 million from a man who turned out to be an FBI informant wearing a wire to record their talk.

"That is not supporting terrorism," said Khan attorney Khurrum Wahid in a closing argument. "That is an old guy running a scam, who got scammed."

Does anyone remember the Video Link disruption stroy?
After Rehman's testimony, Pakistani authorities shut down the video link from an Islamabad hotel to the Miami courtroom, leaving Khan without the testimony of 10 witnesses on his behalf.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby rgsrini » 05 Mar 2013 00:47

Anujan wrote:Positive news from Pakistan. First South Asian Federal Judge is the US!!

Saar,
You forgot to post that SouthAsia also beat Australia in the first cricket match in Chennai.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 05 Mar 2013 00:54

Charlie wrote:Must read piece by Vali Nasr on FP

1) Insider scoop on the tussle between State Dept, White House and Holbroke on how to take care of munna
2) 11 page long with several verbatim quotes from Holbroke and others on Af-Pak
3) Holbroke wanted to give Pakis 50B but eventually settled for Kari-Lugar 7.5B
4) NSA James Jones promised a nuke deal to Pakis in exchange for cooperation but White House later took it off the table.

FP link

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Summary:
Vali Nasr argues that US should have made peace with Taliban long ago, given $50 billion to Pakistan and listened more to Kayani who didnt want a large Afghan army and a faster US withdrawal. Ofcourse Kayani wants all these! Afghanistan is a troublesome distraction for Pakistan from its usual endeavor of terror against India. Unkil's afghan policy has choked up the sewage pipe of Jihadis from Pakistan and the clogged pipe is leaking pakistaniyat all over Pakistan.

What he misses is
1. After finding Bin Laden in Pakistan, giving $50 Billion would have been a tough sell
2. Pakistanis were involved in London attacks and failed times square bombing. How on earth would US have a sustained aid campaign?

What Pakistan wants is contradictory. US withdrawal from Afghanistan, a transfer of Afghan policy from US to Pakistan, Afghanistan as Pakistan's munna instead of US munna *and* lots of aid and arms from the US. Vali Nasr wants to give all of those to them, expecting them to behave well. The deeper question is, what leverage does US have against Pakistan to prevent it from doing another 9/11 on US?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 05 Mar 2013 01:00

pankajs wrote:South Florida imam found guilty of financially aiding Taliban terrorists in Pakistan - FoxNews
Prosecutors built their case largely around hundreds of FBI recordings of conversations in which Khan expressed support for Taliban attacks and discussed sending about $50,000 to Pakistan. There were also recordings in which Khan appeared to back the overthrow of Pakistan's government in favor of strict Islamic law, praised the killing of American military personnel and lauded the failed 2010 attempt to detonate a bomb in New York's Times Square.

Or otherwise known as normal Pakistani conversation :rotfl: The defence could have successfully argued that the Jury does not understand Pakistani cultural practices and such conversation is normal all over pakistan :mrgreen: The Iman, if released has a bright future as a Pakistani columnist/think tanker/TV talking head. Even possibly in Pakistani politics.


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