Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

member_23858 · Post by **member_23858** » 31 Mar 2013 20:44

@akashganga
The gang today itself is known as pakistan!!!
Faultlines are already present in the structure of pakistan. Pakjab can only control the rest of the goons in the gang till money from Unkil is flowing. Let Unkil withdraw from afghanistan. US political machinery will then slowly but surely close the tap on Pakis. Then the gangs will disintegrate and a turf war begins to fight for the control of remaining resources. If we fear that the gangs will gang up against us, then they will be no worse than what they are doing now. Instead, to protect its interest, the weaklings of the gang will try to affiliate themselves to any strong regional power to guarantee survival. this is where afghanistan comes into picture. That's why Indian presence in afghanistan is so irritating for Pakjab. If we are lucky, we might even see a turf war between Punjab and sindhis to control the Meager resources that these pakis have left. The only down side is, that when this happens, there will be Mass migration from porkystan and WKK on Indian side will have to be restrained to full extent from accepting these flea ridden dogs with open arms.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 31 Mar 2013 21:48

I have every confidence that Saudia will frack off.

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 31 Mar 2013 21:58

shiv wrote:
Lord Mountbatty, the royal ignoramus trying to teach history - a 5000 year history condensed into one brief fart summing up all that remains undigested and unassimilated from yesterday's meal.

One of the best things about Indian independence is that half-baked utterings of princelings like Mountbatten are now COMPLETELY irrelevant to India and Indians. That is one big difference (IMO) between RAPE and Indians - RAPE seem to have this nostalgic reverence for the British feudal/colonial connection while Indians are indifferent if not ignorant about it. Indians care about the UK connection in purely modern context of business, jobs and education.

member_22872 · Post by **member_22872** » 31 Mar 2013 22:05

So KSA is root cause. KSA has lots of money and Allah. Which effects which? Say if KSA has money and no Allah will that make the financier and catalyst of the Islamic terror? No. Then the root cause after further filtering is Islam, which is the root cause but not KSA. Perhaps another country which thinks it is the gaurdian of Allah and lots of money would have behaved the same by encouraging Islamic terror?

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 31 Mar 2013 23:00

AoA
Krachi reporting one private school principal killed in grenade attack.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 31 Mar 2013 23:19

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 31 Mar 2013 23:35

Collusion between Djinna and the Brits

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Apr 2013 00:29

The cover of the April 22, 1946 issue of Time magazine pictured a grim-looking Mohammed Ali Jinnah and carried the caption,
"His Muslim tigers want to eat the Hindu cow".

from shadow warrior blog

sadhana · Post by **sadhana** » 01 Apr 2013 01:07

These cartoons are among others which appeared in the Daily Mail, UK, drawn by cartoonist Leslie Illingworth.

September 2, 1946

November 29,1946

akashganga · Post by **akashganga** » 01 Apr 2013 01:17

anmol wrote:

At one point in the interview he says if india had not been partitioned united india would have been a muslim majority country. What would have happened. We hindus would have been wiped out by now. He criticizes arabs, criticizes all pakistani leaders including jinnah but does not say a word against islam. He sees no problems with islam. He is coming to India and he feels like he is going home. In blogosphere you hear a lot that secular muslims are more dangerous. He is a typical example of that.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Apr 2013 02:00

Whoa, apni maa se nafrat naa karo.

Absolutely outstanding. Must watch.

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 01 Apr 2013 02:35

akashganga wrote:At one point in the interview he says if india had not been partitioned united india would have been a muslim majority country. What would have happened. We hindus would have been wiped out by now. He criticizes arabs, criticizes all pakistani leaders including jinnah but does not say a word against islam. He sees no problems with islam. He is coming to India and he feels like he is going home. In blogosphere you hear a lot that secular muslims are more dangerous. He is a typical example of that.

THAT is the only confusing thing about this man.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 01 Apr 2013 02:41

akashganga wrote:At one point in the interview he says if india had not been partitioned united india would have been a muslim majority country. What would have happened. We hindus would have been wiped out by now. He criticizes arabs, criticizes all pakistani leaders including jinnah but does not say a word against islam. He sees no problems with islam. He is coming to India and he feels like he is going home. In blogosphere you hear a lot that secular muslims are more dangerous. He is a typical example of that.

Why is it expected that a Muslim would criticize Islam? If he does that, nobody would listen to him, his commentary on Pakistan would become secondary to any criticism on Islam., and he would become wajib-ul-cutlet for all Muslims of the world.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Apr 2013 02:46

He wants India Centric Islam=ICI agent.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Apr 2013 03:07

x-delete
wrong thread

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 01 Apr 2013 03:38

Pakistan Ulema Permits Suicide Attacks

The Chairman of the Pakistan Ulema Council on Friday said that suicide attacks in Afghanistan are permitted as long as US forces are present in the country.

"Palestine is occupied by Israel, Kashmir by India, and Afghanistan by the US. So if the Muslims don't have the atomic bomb, they should sacrifice their lives for God," head of Pakistan Ulema Council Alama Tahir Ashrafi said in an interview with TOLOnews.

"We are asking America to leave the region in order for the region to become peaceful," he added.

Afghanistan's Ulema Council has rejected his comments, stressing that suicide attacks are unlawful under Islam.

"Pakistan does has the atomic bomb, so why are they carrying out suicide attacks? Suicide bombing is unlawful in Islam religion," member of Afghanistan's Ulema council Abdul Qayoub Hafiz told TOLOnews.

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Apr 2013 03:52

^^ Leaving aside Afghanistan, I think the fartwa is calling for suicide attacks in India .

http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 6#p1419206

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 01 Apr 2013 04:23

@Lilo ^^^

In the tape, a teenage suicide bomber named Masood, who was involved with a May 2008 double suicide bombing in Lahore, stated: "Suicide bombers are the atomic weapons of Muslims because Muslims do not have the latest weapons to fight enemies who are committing atrocities against Muslims in Kashmir, Palestine, Afghanistan and Iraq."
....
Taleban wants to start suicide attacks in India - we must be prepared to deter and repel them.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 313691.cms

NEW DELHI: Terror groups are no more having to scout for recruits; rather, self-radicalized youth seething with a sense of injustice to Muslims are reaching out to the jihadi outfits to volunteer to work for them.

Interrogation of Indian Mujahideen (IM) and Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) operatives in connection with the recent Hyderabad blasts has brought out what security and intelligence agency call the "deeply worrying trend" ,

I guess more 'reservations' are in order

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 01 Apr 2013 04:35

New bhai chara tamasha
Now, home in on your ancestors in Pakistan

CHANDIGARH: Giving impetus to "Aman ki Asha" in a bid to foster India-Pakistan peace process, the Rotary International will start a project -- See your roots -- which will allow people from across the border to visit their ancestral homes in the two neighbouring nations and feel the deep connect with their past.

"This idea took shape during the polio drive when we roped in top Pakistani officials in an endeavour to mitigate the malady in both the countries. This was in 2003. Besides health, we thought there are many other humanitarian agendas," said R K Saboo, past president of Rotary International. He said, "This is on the lines of Aman ki Asha which promotes friendly India-Pak ties."

Lilo · Post by **Lilo** » 01 Apr 2013 04:41

Brad Goodman wrote:New bhai chara tamasha
Now, home in on your ancestors in Pakistan

CHANDIGARH: Giving impetus to "Aman ki Asha" in a bid to foster India-Pakistan peace process, the Rotary International will start a project -- See your roots -- which will allow people from across the border to visit their ancestral homes in the two neighbouring nations and feel the deep connect with their past.

"This idea took shape during the polio drive when we roped in top Pakistani officials in an endeavour to mitigate the malady in both the countries. This was in 2003. Besides health, we thought there are many other humanitarian agendas," said R K Saboo, past president of Rotary International. He said, "This is on the lines of Aman ki Asha which promotes friendly India-Pak ties."

Okay,
Provided that visitiing Bakis hold onto their inner Pakistaniyat (aka Sh*t) as long as they are in India. Adult Diapers or peepoo bags for this purpose could be purchased near Wagah border .

Polio virus after all spreads by the fecal-oral route.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Apr 2013 05:51

akashganga wrote:... secular muslims are more dangerous...

That term is an oxymoron. If you are a muslim and claim to be secular, then you are not a muslim by definition and therefore are deemed worthy of katl. Simple as that.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 01 Apr 2013 05:53

anmol wrote:THAT is the only confusing thing about this man.

Please watch his diatribe on the "rape culture in India".

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Apr 2013 06:02

anmol wrote:
akashganga wrote:At one point in the interview he says if india had not been partitioned united india would have been a muslim majority country. What would have happened. We hindus would have been wiped out by now. He criticizes arabs, criticizes all pakistani leaders including jinnah but does not say a word against islam. He sees no problems with islam. He is coming to India and he feels like he is going home. In blogosphere you hear a lot that secular muslims are more dangerous. He is a typical example of that.

THAT is the only confusing thing about this man.

Nothing confusing. He will be killed if he does that. Ultimately the Muslims who are openly critical of Islam must always live in fear for their lives. That is institutionalized blackmail. and that is what needs to be changed. There should be no threat to the life of anyone who disagrees with a particular religious doctrine. This man clearly does not have the guts to go that far. He should not be held up a some great hero or ray of hope. He seems to be achieving that status on here.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 01 Apr 2013 06:22

[url=httrp://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/16470/backpacking-across-thailand-on-a-green-passport/]Baki slips into Thailand and has his list of Pindi Channa facrts[/url]

Some handy facts, however keep probing inquisitors at bay: per the Economist World in Figures we’re amongst the top 15 nations in Physics (hats off to the likes of Hoodbhoys, Khans and Salams), top 30 in child prodigies (case in point, Arfa Karim Randhawa and Malala Yousafzai), top-something in number of refugees accommodated, top 10 in wheat, sugar, tea and cotton producers, top 20 in mineral resources and the list of positives is endless.

And last but not the least, despite stereotypes; we are a resilient nation, ranked 16th in the Happy Nations Index compiled by the New Economics Foundation (NEF) from sources including UNDP and Gallup.

We found people associating Pakistanis with almost everything from Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan’s singing talent to Bin Laden’s soon-to-be-turned-amusement park hideout, ‘Arab Spring’ to ‘cricketer-politicians’, mountaineering haven to turban-clad fanatics of tribal bad lands.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Apr 2013 06:47

Cosmo_R wrote:NEW DELHI: Terror groups are no more having to scout for recruits; rather, self-radicalized youth seething with a sense of injustice to Muslims are reaching out to the jihadi outfits to volunteer to work for them.

Interrogation of Indian Mujahideen (IM) and Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) operatives in connection with the recent Hyderabad blasts has brought out what security and intelligence agency call the "deeply worrying trend" ,

This has been the ultimate aim of the TSP planners. The jihadi terrorist outfits in India have not become independent of their Pakistani masters. At this point, the indoctrination, selection of terrorists and such HR activities are being done by IM leaders. The selection of targets, timing, mode of execution, funding etc. are still coming from Pakistan under strict control. Over the years, the Indian political leaders did not understand what they were up against and fell into the trap through their omissions and commissions due to vote bank politics.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 01 Apr 2013 06:51

Indian prisoner died of heart attack: Pakistan - Anita Joshua, The Hindu

akashganga · Post by **akashganga** » 01 Apr 2013 07:01

anupmisra wrote:
akashganga wrote:... secular muslims are more dangerous...
That term is an oxymoron. If you are a muslim and claim to be secular, then you are not a muslim by definition and therefore are deemed worthy of katl. Simple as that.

True. Secularism as defined is incompatible with islam. We have to be very careful with those muslims who claim to be securlar or moderate. At the flip of a switch these so called moderate muslims can have change of heart and start shouting allah o akhbar.

akashganga · Post by **akashganga** » 01 Apr 2013 07:06

shiv wrote: Nothing confusing. He will be killed if he does that. Ultimately the Muslims who are openly critical of Islam must always live in fear for their lives. That is institutionalized blackmail. and that is what needs to be changed. There should be no threat to the life of anyone who disagrees with a particular religious doctrine. This man clearly does not have the guts to go that far. He should not be held up a some great hero or ray of hope. He seems to be achieving that status on here.

Even in the US which is arguably most free nation on earth muslim apostates live in fear and hide. Killing of muslim apostates was sanctioned by their founder himself in 7th century.

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 01 Apr 2013 07:31

akashganga wrote:
anmol wrote:
At one point in the interview he says if india had not been partitioned united india would have been a muslim majority country. What would have happened. We hindus would have been wiped out by now. He criticizes arabs, criticizes all pakistani leaders including jinnah but does not say a word against islam. He sees no problems with islam. He is coming to India and he feels like he is going home. In blogosphere you hear a lot that secular muslims are more dangerous. He is a typical example of that.

I regularly visit Tarek Fateh's FB page so I wouldn't say that "he doesn't say a word against Islam". He is openly critical of Sharia / hijabi culture / gay hatred and many other holier than thou idiosyncrasies associated with Islam. When it comes to Porkistan, Tarek stays focused on the fact that Cowardly Pakjabi Army & Elite + Mohajirs / Ahmadi's who strongly supported 2 nation theory (and even continue to support it currently in the face of extremist Sunni persecution) are the root of problems. Tarek lives in Toronto but he isn't stupid to openly criticize Islam so that the Paki Elite + ISI residing in Canada get a chance to say that enemy of Pakistan is enemy of Islam and be bull-cuttled. I have many Muslim friends of Indian origin and I wouldn't want to offend them by saying anything against Islam to their face unless and until the conversation veers into murky waters of religious discussions so even Tarek stays on message by solely focusing on root cause. All Indians (except closet Pakis) are dear to me and all Pakis especially Pakjabis / their army + isi / RAPE / Elite / Mohajirs / Paksindhi (except maybe Balochis / Hazara Shias) are enemies of my motherland.

sanjaykumar · Post by **sanjaykumar** » 01 Apr 2013 08:43

Until the majority of Pakistanis start thinking like Fateh, Akhand Bharat is a delusion and extremely undesirable. However if they do demonstrate Fateh's free thinking, rationality, humanism and decency, India will HAVE to take them back.

This is something that may be difficult to accept.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 01 Apr 2013 09:08

Pakistan was made for all the right reasons and religious extremism was not one of them!
BC Inbred, Tho Itne Sarre Peeche Kyon Chorr gya?

Whilst the Muslim minority of India was oppressed and discriminated against by extremist Hindu elements on the basis of creed, the moderate Hindus failed to check the oppression. Though the Muslims were divided in different sects holding various beliefs, they were all treated with hate and discrimination by Hindus equally; to them they were all just Muslims.Accordingly, Congress ministries, dominated by extremist Hindus, paved the way for the partition of India as the harsh and discriminatory treatment meted out to the Muslims on the basis of their religious faith left them with no option but to demand a new country.Therefore, the reason for the creation of Pakistan was not to promote religious extremism but to defend the people’s right to freedom of belief and to save them from oppression and discrimination on that count.Furthermore, it is said that Pakistan was demanded to enable Muslims to lead their lives in accordance with the principles of Islam. These much quoted words have been repeated many times but rarely understood in the real sense of the purpose.
In the days when this slogan was made, the world that the Muslims and Islam represented to the minorities of India, who were being persecuted and oppressed because of their faith, was that of a separate state where such persecution would not be possible.To put it simply, the slogan meant that Pakistan would be a state where minorities would be free to lead their lives in accordance with the principles of their religion without the fear of any persecution. No other interpretation is possible, as the Muslims in those days were comprised of so many different sects whose principles of Islam were different on many points and in some cases contradictory.Additionally, no minorities except Hindus and Sikhs emigrated from Pakistan. Had Pakistan been created only for Muslims then all the minorities would have tried to immigrate to India.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Apr 2013 09:22

Shaashtanga wrote:but he isn't stupid to openly criticize Islam so that the Paki Elite + ISI residing in Canada get a chance to say that enemy of Pakistan is enemy of Islam and be bull-cuttled. I have many Muslim friends of Indian origin and I wouldn't want to offend them by saying anything against Islam to their face unless and until the conversation veers into murky waters of religious discussions

Perfectly well articulated sentiment.

Here's the rub. Islam escapes censure from non Muslims because of the sensitivity and delicacy of articulating things that might offend.

The fuzzy borders of liberalism show out clearly here. Does liberalism include suppression of opinions because they would hurt sentiment? Looking at this question from a purely hypothetical and imaginary standpoint let me think of a person who does not crticize Islam's penchant to order the death of unbelievers because that would be hurtful to friends.

Suppose one day this person simply goes ahead and says to Muslim friends what his mind tells him about how Islamic texts have passages that are used as the basis for killing non Muslims. What reaction might he get
1. The friends might take offence with the social consequences of that
2. The Muslim friend might agree in private
3. The friend might agree in public
It is the latter reaction for which Islam has developed almost fail safe responses. The Muslim who openly goes against the religion in front of other Muslims can be punished in a variety of ways that affect his personal life and standing in society even before he actually becomes Cuttlefish. This ensures that any Muslims who might otherwise be "almost liberal" cock up and keep their lips sealed when it comes to being critical of Islam.

This is not about you personally or any individual, It applies to all of us in civil society.The sensitive, understanding non Muslim who does not want to offend his friends is simply following the rules of sharia vicariously because his friendship would be affected if his friend were put in an embarrassing situation. Islamic society is structured in this way - a very robust structure that is immune to criticism. As I see it the only way to bring down the most egregious aspects is by publicly and indirectly shaming the supporters by showing how hypocritical they are by resorting to murder and suppression of Muslims who disagree while denying that it occurs. Killing of kafirs by Muslims does not matter one bit. A live kafir slave or dhimmi is held up as a sign of liberalism in Islam.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 01 Apr 2013 09:22

That was a great interview with Tarek Fatah saab. I hope he has a wonderful to visit to Desh and Indian Punjab in particular.

RajeshG · Post by **RajeshG** » 01 Apr 2013 09:24

RajeshA wrote:Cosmo_R ji,

sure we are the same people, but we are the winners they are the losers, we have Ma and they have GUBO, we are healthy and they are inbred, we have our fierce independence and they are slaves! We may be the same "people", but we are not same.

There is the Bharatiya caste, and there is the Baki caste! We are two different castes! Some RAPE want to belong to Bharatiya caste, but cannot!

I personally think that the silver-fox experiment should be looked at closely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox

While starting out with the same species, over last 60 years and under strong selection pressures, the fox population has indeed evolved into 2 completely distinct sets.

I believe that at a macro-level TSP also imposes strong selection pressures and the genetic pool has indeed diverged. Granted that silver-fox experiment has involved way more generations then TSPians but even within this short time the results are incredible !!

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Apr 2013 09:28

Jhujar wrote:Pakistan was made for all the right reasons and religious extremism was not one of them!
BC Inbred, Tho Itne Sarre Peeche Jyon Chorr gya?

Additionally, no minorities except Hindus and Sikhs emigrated from Pakistan. Had Pakistan been created only for Muslims then all the minorities would have tried to immigrate to India.

This guy has manure instead of a brain the retard.

What minorities did Pakjab and Sindh have other than Hindus and Sikhs? How many of them are safe and thriving in the Islamic Republic of Shitistan?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 01 Apr 2013 10:01

Apart from Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, other religious minority sects like Shias and Ahmadis and ethnic minorities like Baloch and Hazara and women which other minority has been oppressed in Pakistan I ask you ?

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 01 Apr 2013 10:07

Anujan wrote:Apart from Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, other religious minority sects like Shias and Ahmadis and ethnic minorities like Baloch and Hazara and women which other minority has been oppressed in Pakistan I ask you ?

Pakistan retains an untouchable caste which they do not acknowledge because they say it is a Hindu problem. Islam is unable to sole the problem it appears.

Shaashtanga · Post by **Shaashtanga** » 01 Apr 2013 10:11

Shiv saar, I fully agree with your chain of thought and in fact have been using the reverse-pisko-sarco-analysis "muslims don't kill muslims and it must be YYY conspiracy" everytime green on green violence occurs in pukistan (with Indian Shia's as well as Porki Shia's more aggressively) but other then that I find it hard to come out directly and have open discussions with my muslim friends on "Ali Sina's book - Understanding Muhammad" (because that's what I really want to discuss with them) and I think this book would be equally offensive to sunni / shia / ahmadi and whatever sub-divisions exist within Islam.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 01 Apr 2013 10:59

Presenting Mullah Diesel's latest ravings for your amusement:
Fazl wants Pakistan’s significance acknowledged

LAHORE: Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-Fazlur Rehman (JUI-F) Chief, Maulana Fazlur Rehman addressing thousands of his supporters in Lahore Sunday stressed on Pakistan’s acknowledgement as the region’s one of the most significant states.
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The peace of the region, he said, is closely linked to improved ties between Pakistan and India.

“Pakistan is a significant state of the region whose status is needed to be acknowledged,” he asserted.

He said Pakistan is full of natural resources and it can easily become a self-sufficient country. “We don’t need to buy gas from any other country,” the JUI-F chief argued, saying the problem of load-shedding can be resolved through sensible decision making.

Baikul · Post by **Baikul** » 01 Apr 2013 12:13

ArmenT wrote:Presenting Mullah Diesel's latest ravings for your amusement:
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He said Pakistan is full of natural resources and it can easily become a self-sufficient country. “We don’t need to buy gas from any other country,” the JUI-F chief argued, saying the problem of load-shedding can be resolved through sensible decision making.

Dead right. Sensibly buy best quality pindi chana at night, sensibly decide to load shed your inner Pakistaniyat in the morning after (instead of load shedding in your bed, do it on a power plant).

Problem of load shedding solved 400%, problem of gas solved 401%.