Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby ramana » 12 Apr 2013 23:04

^^ Too late. The only solace is Peaceful Implosion of Pakistan PIP) as Rajaram used to say.
The dumb psecs used the Emergency to rush thru the secualr phrase in the Constitution as their job was to deracinate India. They never anticipated that a mere 15 years later Babri Masjid would come crashing down and along with it bring down many secular shibboliths.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 12 Apr 2013 23:51

Ramana Sir,
Its never too late. Economically and militalily strong India can and should open this unfinished agenda as part of CBM with Pakistan. We can argue that transfer of this nature heal the wounds of partition and help the unification of split families. This also shows our good will toward Islam to consolidate, settle and act as main viubrant, life givng ingredient for Paki nationhood. Might as well transfer the remains of many so called Sufis too. Let Paki say no for this in Public and face the wrath of Greenest among them. India can rightfully call the Paki bluff being the home of Muslamans of South Asia and the same time sort out many RNI Ashrafs bt exposing their treachery .
The conversation between Fakir Azzizudin ,the foreign minister of Maharaha Ranjit Sing and Afghan Ruler waging Jihad provide apt template to deal with Paki ideological argument/ hoax.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Agnimitra » 12 Apr 2013 23:59

ramana ji, not sure why its "too late". Agree with Jhujar sahibzada.
OR, if we accept Hindu-Sikh-Christian refs without xfer of certain populations, then we build a case for more land, shifting the border westwards in some places.

Tarek Fatah types are talking of two types of Moslems in the Indian subcontinent - those who follow Aurangzeb, and those who follow Dara Shikoh.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 13 Apr 2013 00:27

Carl Ji,
Agenda must be set by India, Initiative must be taken by GOI and let Paki respond to it. By controlling the dialogue we can control the outcome and spin it any which way we want. Paki will have no leg to stand on. Better, even ask friendly Islamic countries to raise the issue in OIC if Paki dont take the "Muslims" trying to migrate from India to the homeland of South Asian Muslims.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby abhijitm » 13 Apr 2013 01:17

Jhujar wrote:If GOI has some Aqal then make forceful demand of the swapping so called Ashrafs in india in exchange for Hindus, Sikhs and Budhists from both TSP and BD.

I agree. We should start Minority Swapping Programme. But the problem is Ahmediyyas and shias will also want to come here. Shiv rightly said we are trapped in our own secularism crap.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Agnimitra » 13 Apr 2013 01:18

Jhujar wrote:Better, even ask friendly Islamic countries to raise the issue in OIC if Paki dont take the "Muslims" trying to migrate from India to the homeland of South Asian Muslims.

Jhujar ji,

It won't work - it would simply allow "Pak = Islam". Rather, we have to do to TnT what Bhima did to Jarasandha -- cleave "shari'ah Islamism" from "Sufism", and toss them in opposite directions. Like Tarek Fatah says, make people choose between Aurang-zesht and Dara Shikoh, between Owais al-Qarani (to whom the Prophet bequeathed his cloak) and Imam Rabbani (Sh. Ahmad Sirhindi), etc. And show the Shikohvadis that India is the Ocean into which their river can happily merge. After all, according to Hebrew/Islamic tradition, south India was where Hazrat Adam first hit Earth when he came down from Paradise, it is where mysticism (Irfaan) first came to this planet.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby ramana » 13 Apr 2013 01:41

Carl, You should be the new Indic Green Mantle!!!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Agnimitra » 13 Apr 2013 01:46

:lol:
But seriously ramana ji, its the only way going fwd. This world war (GWOT) is going to be long-drawn out, and it is more than just about social changes, economics, or nationalism. It is also prominently 'philosophical'.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Joseph » 13 Apr 2013 02:16

Based on the population trends for the religious minorities in Pakistan, the xfer or outright elimination has always been ongoing and never closed on that side of the border.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RamaY » 13 Apr 2013 02:17

Jhujar wrote:Ramana Sir,
Its never too late. Economically and militalily strong India can and should open this unfinished agenda as part of CBM with Pakistan. We can argue that transfer of this nature heal the wounds of partition and help the unification of split families. This also shows our good will toward Islam to consolidate, settle and act as main viubrant, life givng ingredient for Paki nationhood. Might as well transfer the remains of many so called Sufis too. Let Paki say no for this in Public and face the wrath of Greenest among them. India can rightfully call the Paki bluff being the home of Muslamans of South Asia and the same time sort out many RNI Ashrafs bt exposing their treachery .
The conversation between Fakir Azzizudin ,the foreign minister of Maharaha Ranjit Sing and Afghan Ruler waging Jihad provide apt template to deal with Paki ideological argument/ hoax.

+1
Pyarullah should start a religion of Pyar :rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Charlie » 13 Apr 2013 03:42

:rotfl:

This is how Paki Afsaraan settle scores

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 13 Apr 2013 04:03

abhijitm wrote:
Jhujar wrote:If GOI has some Aqal then make forceful demand of the swapping so called Ashrafs in india in exchange for Hindus, Sikhs and Budhists from both TSP and BD. agree. We should start Minority Swapping Programme. But the problem is Ahmediyyas and shias will also want to come here. Shiv rightly said we are trapped in our own secularism crap.


First lets loosen the tight trap
Ahmadiyas must sleep in their bed they made in Lahore. We can accomodate Shias who still have close family relation in India after they go through proper De-PaKi education camp. Let Sunnis cry over the decrimination and declare Shias Kaffir.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 05:35

^^^^

Its playing with fire my friend.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Cosmo_R » 13 Apr 2013 05:43

Whatever happened to the case of the Kerala muslims who went off in a huff to Karachi 'homeland' and then wanted back after 20 + years pleading bad judgment?

Anyone know?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Cosmo_R » 13 Apr 2013 05:47

Brad Goodman wrote:^^^^

Its playing with fire my friend.


Playing only with the vote bank impact

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby RCase » 13 Apr 2013 08:42



Tarek Fatah in India. Some interesting tidbits and Paki bashing:

Everything about Pakistan is fake, from its foundation, founder etc.
PA is involved in organ trade :shock:
Imran Khan is a Pakjabi pretending to be a Pathan, Mushy is a Delhiwala pretending to be a Pakjabi and the Mohajirs pretending to be victims. :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 13 Apr 2013 09:00

Hum Tum Chorri sey, Baandhe Ik Dorri Sey : Jayeyye Kanah Ji Hazzor" Arre Yeh Baandan Hai Pyar Kaa
London and Pakistan link-up to break stereotypes

A new project is using films made made in London and south Asia in an attempt to promote Pakistan as a land of opportunity rather than a failed state.Pakistan Calling is linking film students at London Metropolitan University with students in Lahore and Karachi.It will provide a web-platform for short films documenting positive work going on in Pakistani society.It is a joint venture between the Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce (RSA) and The Samosa, a London-based British Asian website and is funded by these organisations as well as the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.One of the main aims is to engage the British Pakistani diaspora in social projects "back-home" using skills and examples from the UK.'Positive picture'
There were more than one million British Pakistanis counted in the 2011 England and Wales census (2% of the population) with the biggest concentration in the capital. Events in Pakistani cities can affect families from Ilford to Bradford.Matthew Taylor, chief executive of the RSA, says it is vital that there is more to the conversation around Pakistan than extremism and terror."It's about trying to present a more positive picture of Pakistan which is far too often portrayed as a place of nothing but problems," said Mr Taylor.
"Of course, we don't think our project is going to solve all of the country's problems, but the first thing is to engage British Pakistanis to try to change the nature of the conversation."Only a week ago the media was full of a debate about whether we should help Pakistan when they don't even pay their taxes. A more positive conversation would make a useful contribution."Change perceptions
The project recognises the many issues facing Pakistan - according to the World Health Organisation one in four Pakistanis live in poverty, and one in 14 children die before their fifth birthday.Anwar Akhtar, director of Samosa, worries this situation could deteriorate.The project aims to promote Pakistan as a democratic society"Pakistan's population will double over the next two or three generations. Without further provision of infrastructure, health, education and welfare, Pakistan's problems could worsen."Those behind the project hope that by documenting positive stories in Pakistan it not only helps to change perceptions but could inspire others to follow suit.There are also hopes to create a crowd-sourcing platform alongside the project that would mean people could directly contribute to projects similar to those shown.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby svenkat » 13 Apr 2013 09:25

The briturds and amirkhans will not allow their pet snake pakhanastan(a gora christist project) to die so easily.We need modibhai at the helm for 10 years to burn the toxic corpse before pakhanastan is consigned to history.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Agnimitra » 13 Apr 2013 09:46

RCase wrote:Tarek Fatah in India. Some interesting tidbits and Paki bashing:

Everything about Pakistan is fake, from its foundation, founder etc.
PA is involved in organ trade :shock:
Imran Khan is a Pakjabi pretending to be a Pathan, Mushy is a Delhiwala pretending to be a Pakjabi and the Mohajirs pretending to be victims. :)

Yeam Im the Dim is a Niazi Pakjabi. They're called "addha pathan" in Panjabi - half-Pathan.

Tarek Fatah rightly points out that Turkish Islamists are in league with ISI in promoting Islamism in B'Desh. Gulenists have networks of schools there. Etc.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Satya_anveshi » 13 Apr 2013 10:48

Jumma Humor (TFT Nuggets):
Election Commission is wild elephant

Reported in Nawa-e-Waqt, JUI-F leader Abdul Ghafoor Haidri says the Election Commission is a wild elephant, and is overstepping its limits. The EC is asking for the details of the property owned by the wives and children of election candidates, and also asking women how many husbands they have :lol: . If this wild elephant is not tamed, elections will not be held.

PTI youth teased women in rain
Reported in Islam, when rain began to pour during Imran Khan’s 23rd March jalsa in Lahore, women’s clothes became wet and clung to their bodies. They were struggling to hide their private parts. Many women were lost and looking for their families. The young people who are passionate about bringing a change took advantage of the situation and started teasing and touching women. When the women approached the police, the cops said they could not help them. The women burst into tears but the young men continued to laugh at them.

Eligibility criteria

Columnist Nazeer Naji writes in Dunya about an election of a literary society. Two candidates were arguing about each other’s eligibility. One said to the other: “You can’t fulfill the responsibility of this post because you are a stutterer. You are ineligible.” The other replied: “You are also ineligible because you are a father of twin babies.” That reminded me of the debate the country was having about the eligibility of the candidates for caretaker prime minister.

No dancing women in JUI-F rally

Reported in daily Islam, Maulana Fazlur Rehman’s rally in Lahore on March 31 will only be attended by men. There won’t be any semi-nude women dancing in a seductive manner. There will be no music, and no dancing boys either. It will be a rally of Islam.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 13 Apr 2013 12:04

svenkat wrote:The briturds and amirkhans will not allow their pet snake pakhanastan(a gora christist project) to die so easily.We need modibhai at the helm for 10 years to burn the toxic corpse before pakhanastan is consigned to history.


I think sometimes we ignore how important pakistan is to Saudi Arabia as its Eastern wing which helps them fly. And Saudi interests are really important to both UK and USA and even CHina, Oil wealth and ability of Saudis to manupulate the thinking of 1.2 billion in humanity. Unless we understand this relationships we will never understand the help to Pakis. My bet is China, US and UK will dump Pakis if the Saudis ditch them. but how? If Pakis can cause some mayhem in Sa that would help.

We know that it was Saudis Prince Bandar who were instrumental in getting the M-9's to China in 1990's and made the US intervene for honourable Paki withdrawal in Kargil.

The Saudis also seem to have a lot of influence among the elite in India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby jamwal » 13 Apr 2013 12:39

Why do some people have this perception that Shias are much less fundoo than Sunnis ? If Pakisatan was a Shia majority country, the Sunnis would have been at the receiving end instead of the current conditions. Islam demands it

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby chetak » 13 Apr 2013 12:53

jamwal wrote:Why do some people have this perception that Shias are much less fundoo than Sunnis ? If Pakisatan was a Shia majority country, the Sunnis would have been at the receiving end instead of the current conditions. Islam demands it


+100

The genetic makeup of the entire benighted fundoo lot is against the kafirs.

We would be extremely foolish to try and distinguish between one virulent typhoid virus versus another.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 13 Apr 2013 14:41

Shi'as, Berelvis, Ahmedis and of course Deobandis, Salafis, Wahhabis and Takfiris are all the same in their hatred for India and its practitioners of non-Abrahamic religions. Make no mistake.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 18:33

Pakistan's battle against 'killer' pneumonia

The UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) and the World Health Organisation (WHO) have launched a Global Action Plan to battle diarrhoea and pneumonia.

The conditions kill almost two million children globally under the age of five every year.

Pakistan is one of the worst hit nations, registering 126,000 deaths in 2010, and there's a chronic lack of medical staff in the country.

Al Jazeera's Imran Khan reports from Lower Dir .

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 18:36

Pakistan T20I Captain Hafeez signs on for the Caribbean Premier League

ju kaffirs are losing the star power

Hafeez joins Australia duo Ricky Ponting and Adam Gilchrist, together with former New Zealand captain Ross Taylor, as international franchise players already contracted for the inaugural CPL, which will take place between 29 July and 26 August across the Caribbean.
:rotfl: :rotfl:


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby abhijitm » 13 Apr 2013 20:04

Rah-e-nijat back again! Remember everyday paki were claiming a number of TTP men killed? All that... back again.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby member_23858 » 13 Apr 2013 20:36

9 get 72 by an IED under their musharrafs in Peshabwar :(( :((

Bus driver Jehanghir Khan, who was not hurt, told reporters that the device had been planted under a seat.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby VinodTK » 13 Apr 2013 20:37

RCase wrote:

Tarek Fatah in India. Some interesting tidbits and Paki bashing:

Everything about Pakistan is fake, from its foundation, founder etc.
PA is involved in organ trade :shock:
Imran Khan is a Pakjabi pretending to be a Pathan, Mushy is a Delhiwala pretending to be a Pakjabi and the Mohajirs pretending to be victims. :)



^^^^ Very good interview/discussion.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 22:46

pakis doing what they do the best
Two Pakistan umpires banned on corruption charges

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) has banned umpires Nadeem Ghouri and Anis Siddiqui for four and three years respectively after they were found guilty of being willing to compromise their integrity in discharge of their professional duties.


Ghouri a former test spinner who has umpired test and one-day internationals in his 13 years as an umpire, was banned after the PCB integrity committee found him guilty of agreeing to extend undue favours for material gains during a sting operation carried out by an Indian television channel.
kaffirs are hatching kanspiracy against world champion momeen players. Earlier it was brits now baniyas doing sting on faitlfuls who can never sell their imaan and taqwa

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 22:52

future of bakistan is really bright read this lettor to IEDitor
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Pakistan: lesson from Darwinism
THIS is apropos of Dr Iftikhaar Ahmed’s letter under the heading ‘Pakistan: lesson from Darwinism’ (March 7), asking Pakistanis to learn a lesson from Darwin. The conclusion reached by Darwin on the basis of similarity of forms is not a theory but a supposition. This supposition is being termed as theory.

Darwin’s inductive logic derived from similarity of forms does not establish “man descended from apes.” The apes are a variety of species in the midst of numerous animals and all species in their individual capacity were created individually. Instantaneous creation does not recognise one species springing from another. Darwin’s experimental generalisation as opposed to the traditional, that man descended from a heavenly- created human being called Adam has for centuries been held to be valid, man being unique among all the other species.

All the prophets of God were uniquely gifted with a third dimension in which to receive communication from God :mrgreen: . The fall of Adam from a paradisiacal state did not end the line of communication between the Creator and the created. The line of intuitive communication still exists, but not for everyone. The intuitive line of communication has to be metaphysically established between Heaven and Earth.
:shock:
The prophets who came to establish this dimension between God and themselves were truthful. They received Revelations like the Torah, the Bible and the Quran — unique in themselves. Darwin could have been misanthropic, unable to comprehend higher human values other than the animal in him. :evil: :evil:

Well-founded religions have completely shattered the purely logical generalisation of the materialist, and the third dimension opens a new dimension to those disposed to extra dimension. There, however, exists a proviso that extra-sensory knowledge in a third dimension is not accessible to a purely sensory approach. All the Revelations descended through this dimension and this dimension is a part of certain human beings not accessible to others is not initiated.

AKBAR KHAN
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 13 Apr 2013 23:01

Now Al Bakis have image problem within ummah itself. Wasnt Al Bakistan supposed to be the leader of ummat e muslima
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
VIEW: Another Pakistan —Gulmina Bilal Ahmad

We don’t want to be another Pakistan.” This was the statement given by an Egyptian Christian participant at my seminar, while talking about the failure of the Arab Spring and the rise of the Muslim Brotherhood. This brought back images in my mind that appeared on the social media during the Arab Spring, where protestors held banners with the same inscriptions. A gathering where participants from all around the globe are attending, the country being singled out at such a forum forced me to think how Pakistan is being perceived internationally{perception problem only}. Despite its active participation in the war on terror, the return to democracy in recent years, the presence of a vibrant media and an independent judiciary, Pakistan is viewed as a horrid example of everything that can go wrong in the current geo-political dynamics. Pakistan is being perceived as a political and economic nightmare, a hotbed of terrorism, and not to forget, a hub of religious extremism. While I gathered myself and focused my efforts towards explaining to the participant that the paradigm for Pakistan was different, and that there was progress being made, the individual held her stance. Despite my citing of the independent media and judiciary, restoration of democracy and the fact that we have never voted mullahs into power, I felt I was at the losing end of this discussion.{all standard vanilla arguments that pakis dish out seem to not flying anymore}

same old arguments about ROP. I guess they all pick this boiler plate template and add few sentences in between in all articles

Religion, which should be a personal matter of an individual, has been imposed on the entire society. Resultantly, the same religion that preaches peace and tolerance is being exploited for spreading chaos, instability and violence. We are being singled out for not only promoting extremism within our country but for exporting the same to other countries as well.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Rajdeep » 13 Apr 2013 23:27

Did anyone catch last nights Vice on HBO ?
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trying to find a video link.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby member_23858 » 13 Apr 2013 23:50

Brad Goodman wrote:
All the prophets of God were uniquely gifted with a third dimension in which to receive communication from God

The fall of Adam from a paradisaical state did not end the line of communication between the Creator and the created
. .
. Darwin could have been misanthropic, unable to comprehend higher human values other than the animal in him



Or we can safely assume that no new "METAPHYSICAL" connections have been established since advent of Haloperidol

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 14 Apr 2013 08:21

Bomb blast on bus kills nine in Pakistan

A BOMB blast on a bus in Peshawar has killed at least nine people, in the latest attack to hit Pakistan's troubled northwest ahead of historic polls next month.

The explosion occurred just hours after militants blew up the election offices of an independent candidate in the North Wazirstan tribal district fuelling concerns that violence will mar general elections on May 11.

"At least nine passengers have been killed and seven injured. Bomb disposal officials told me that it was a timed device," Fazal Wahid, a senior police official told AFP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby sum » 14 Apr 2013 08:21

X-posting more exploits of the pious:
sum wrote:
What even the February revelations in Pakistan hadn’t disclosed is that the attack on Minhas AB in Pakistan happened with 3 Erieye planes on the ground. One was destroyed – but 2 others were very badly damaged. That leaves Pakistan with a fleet of just 1 plane, until it gets those 2 fixed. That could explain this $170 million contract, with the sudden secrecy invoked because Pakistan doesn’t want to publicly admit the extent of the loss;

AoA.

Truely a massive sixer from the batting mujahids

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 14 Apr 2013 10:39

Another all-EE: Sar Jalee
( Zarra Photu tho Dekho.Kaisee Tirshi Hain Akhiya: Jaise Mukh Pey Baithy Makhiya)

Can the Indus become a catalyst for cooperation?

The Indus Waters Treaty is causing tensions between India and Pakistan. I am apprehensive how this Indus Waters conundrum will unfold in the future as the prevailing scenario is fraught with complications, especially for the lower riparian — i.e., Pakistan. It seems that going beyond the treaty is the only viable option and this is being debated across various forums, notwithstanding that the majority still believes that the treaty be given another chance and Pakistan stay within its parameters.
Pakistan is built around a single river system — the Indus Basin — and has gone from being a water-surplus to a water-distressed country over a period of time. This has been a consequence of its burgeoning population. While its population has ballooned like baboons, the scale of water in the single river system upon which the country is heavily dependent has remained the same, leading to a serious water crisis.Pakistan’s water security is under a series of unprecedented threats. This is due to inadequate and poor water management and climate change, which seem to have a profound impact on the problem of water scarcity. The Indus, which rises from the Himalayas, is unique in nature as it lies in the low-rainfall area. Hence, the pace at which snow is melting over the Himalayas can have disastrous ramifications for the water security of the country.So, what is the way out for Pakistan? It is, perhaps, pertinent to blame the Indus Waters Treaty for the water-stress we face, but doing away with the treaty will not do justice to it as it has survived three wars and stood the test of time. When the Indus Waters Treaty was signed — the 1960s — there was an abundance of water and climate change did not have an overwhelming impact on water flows. It is believed that the treaty was not drafted with a far-sighted approach as it failed to anticipate the repercussions that climate change could have, but that does not imply that the parties cannot stay within its ambit to resolve their water issues. The best possible option for Pakistan is to explore new areas of cooperation within the scope of the treaty. The treaty itself favours cooperation whenever a conflict emerges, as Article VII talks about “future cooperation”.Pakistan is facing serious interprovincial conflicts related to water that need to be addressed. These arose due to inequitable water sharing among the provinces and water shortages. The 1991 Indus Waters Apportionment Act was designed to ensure even-handed sharing of the Indus waters among the provinces. Despite this accord, there are endless disputes on water amongst the provinces. Pakistan needs to work towards fixing these disputes in order to combat water scarcity and to ensure equal supplies of water to all provinces. The Indus River System Authority (IRSA), under the IRSA Act of 1992, is responsible for the distribution of water among the provinces, and the state is responsible for ensuring equal water supplies. If it fails to do so, Article 155 of the Constitution gives the right to the aggrieved party to take the matter to the Council of Common Interests. Water crises can be addressed if we fix our internal shortcomings. This can be achieved if we follow the 1991 Accord in letter and in spirit, enhance IRSA’s technical capabilities and ensure that it penalises petty water thefts.It is important to realise that we cannot operate outside the framework of the Indus Waters Treaty. This has been pointed out by David Lilienthal, former chairperson of the Tennessee Valley Authority. On his visit to India and Pakistan, he proposed that both work out a joint programme to develop the Indus River Basin System. He highlighted that the water resources of the Indus Basin should be used to promote its economic development. Notwithstanding that, both countries are determined to solve the issue of the use of the Indus Basin’s water resources on a political plane instead of a functional one. Presently, Pakistan has two options: to adhere to the treaty or look into the options of revising it. We need a far-sighted approach. If Pakistan manages to take the water crisis in its stride, a bridge could be built over the troubled relations with India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby Aditya_V » 14 Apr 2013 10:47

I think Pakistan should unilaterally withdraw from the the current Indus water treaty while we can have Aman Ki Asha (Chai Biskoot sessions) of a new treaty based on consensus among all MP's and MLA's in India for a new treaty.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Feb 21, 2013

Postby member_23858 » 14 Apr 2013 11:02

Aditya_V wrote:I think Pakistan should unilaterally withdraw from the the current Indus water treaty while we can have Aman Ki Asha (Chai Biskoot sessions) of a new treaty based on consensus among all MP's and MLA's in India for a new treaty.



I think you are giving too much credit to the current crop of MP's/MLA's in India. These morons, who sit in Parliament today and endlessly argue over who is devouring how much moolah, will gift away large share of water in the new treaty under the guise of Aman ki Ayesha Filth being spread by WKKs and Dhimmis in India. Incidently, Pakistan has already started laying down the brickwork for such a one sided treaty by declaring that "Indians should Be more giving and large hearted". Can one really think of Mulayam, Sonia, Mamata to take a stand for what is Right for this country? or rather have common wisdom to understand whats good for the country and whats not?
The current IWT, though partial, Is not completely favoring Pak, not just yet. However there is no guarentee that new treaty would not be.


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