mahadevbhu wrote:
yes rudradev saar, IMO your posts reflects too much thought and analysis into a series of unfortunate events .
MB saar,
Theek hai, everyone has a POV. I've explained mine with reference to observations and analysis. So far the opinions contrary to mine seem to consist of simply stating "No, it cannot be so"... and recounting perceptions of the US and Pakistan doing the rounds in the popular media.
Speaking for myself, I'd rather be incorrect (if I AM incorrect) through over-analysis, than through a lack of analysis!
What is happening is, more simple. ISI/TSPA/Pak has decentralized terror. This is a Pak speciality, just as software and sadhus and yoga is ours.
What do you mean by "decentralized terror" exactly? When I hear this term I think of Western media attempts to exonerate the top levels of TSPA/ISI from direct involvement with terrorism. It is the excuse made by the US State Dept. to quash the NY court which wanted to subpeona ISI chief Shuja Ahmed Pasha in the 26/11 case... that terrorism emanating from Pakistan is "decentralized", attributable to "non-state actors" and hence the ISI should be immune from prosecution. Do you believe this is true?
I understand the yearning for simple explanations but let's remember: Occam's razor only applies to the simplest explanation that accounts for *all* reproducible observations. Western media platitudes about the Af Pak situation don't come anywhere near doing that.
Now, the ISI can export their products at certain times, put pressure on their "contacts" in the US and encourage them at certain points of time....and to their mind, they would be doing "hool".
That is not all. The ISI can also give the FBI and DHS the name, address, mugshot and intended plans of the encouraged "contact" at the appropriate time. That's the core aspect of the "hool"... to ensure it doesn't turn into an actual blow, but comes near enough to intimidate the adversary.
But but but. You must remember that, when "giving hool" (love this phrase...I went to a Mumbai college) ...there is a shadow play , an escalation ladder--similar to when you want to nuke another country. Who acknowledges the hool first? And how do you know that the hool will not lead to blows?
You can never be 400% sure it will not lead to blows. There is always a risk... "hool" is a dangerous game for anyone to play, no? Yet so far, the ISI's "hool" project has paid rich dividends from GOTUS to Pakistan, despite Pakistan simultaneously fighting a proxy war against the GOTUS in Afghanistan! For over a decade.
And this ladder is not under the control of any ISI.
I have explained how it is, in fact, under the ISI's control... at least, it has been so far. American attempts to disrupt Pakistan's control over the escalation ladder (drone strikes, Raymond Davis type ops, even the Abbotabad raid and the Salala smackdown) have not succeeded in doing so. On the contrary they have each been met with a renewed intensity of ISI hools.
The GOTUS' answer at present? Appointing John Kerry and Chuck Hagel as SOS and SOD! So, you tell me who blinked, and who controls the escalation ladder now.
The quality and quantity of "hool" from the American side, MAYBE under the control of the CIA...but it is certainly NOT in the control of the Pak Deep state.
I don't understand. Why would the hool from the American side be under the control of the Paki deep state? It is under the control of the Americans.
Every second guy is a terrorist. He can do whatever he wants, take Ammonium Nitrate through his colon into the USA, do all sorts of stuff under the influence of some cleric in Yemen.
Actually the reference to the cleric in Yemen is interesting. Abulmuttalib, the Nigerian "underwear bomber" was (as I said) an exception to the ISI "hools" because he was not run by ISI... he was run by Al Awlaki from Yemen. He too failed, but out of sheer luck, not because he was outed by ISI to calibrate their demonstration.
But you know what's even more interesting? How did the GOTUS respond to the AQAP/Awlaki threat?
Straight-out assassination of Awlaki, despite his being a US citizen, with a drone strike in Yemen. No "we must understand his concerns, we must engage him on common interests, he is a key ally" bull$hit. They just went right in and killed Abulmuttalib's boss... because they knew that AQAP wasn't playing a "hool", and had meant to actually cause a devastating terrorist attack.
Has the US ever, EVER done this to a jernail of TSPA or ISI? Why not?
No Sir, the ISI is not in calibrated control of the hool and the actions of every nanha mujahid 72 virgin f*ker.
You may believe this, but you haven't established it.
who was beheaded by the Mughal governor of Lahore Zikriya Khan. The Hindus have been celebrating Basant at his burial place for three centuries. 
