Bharat Rakshak Forum Announcement

Hello Everyone,

A warm welcome back to the Bharat Rakshak Forum.

Important Notice: Due to a corruption in the BR forum database we regret to announce that data records relating to some of our registered users have been lost. We estimate approx. 500 user details are deleted.

To ease the process of recreating the user IDs we request members that have previously posted on the BR forums to recognise and identify their posts, once the posts are identified please contact the BRF moderator team by emailing BRF Mod Team with your post details.

The mod team will be able to update your username, email etc. so that the user history can be maintained.

Unfortunately for members that have never posted or have had all their posts deleted i.e. users that have 0 posts, we will be unable to recreate your account hence we request that you re-register again.

We apologise for any inconvenience caused and thank you for your understanding.

Regards,
Seetal

Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

The Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum is a venue to discuss issues pertaining to India's security environment, her strategic outlook on global affairs and as well as the effect of international relations in the Indian Subcontinent. We request members to kindly stay within the mandate of this forum and keep their exchanges of views, on a civilised level, however vehemently any disagreement may be felt. All feedback regarding forum usage may be sent to the moderators using the Feedback Form or by clicking the Report Post Icon in any objectionable post for proper action. Please note that the views expressed by the Members and Moderators on these discussion boards are that of the individuals only and do not reflect the official policy or view of the Bharat-Rakshak.com Website. Copyright Violation is strictly prohibited and may result in revocation of your posting rights - please read the FAQ for full details. Users must also abide by the Forum Guidelines at all times.
Cosmo_R
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3323
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 01:24

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Cosmo_R » 23 May 2017 21:06

Abedi is definitely a south asian muslim name. For EXAMPLE (only)

https://www.facebook.com/salman.abedi

This guy would seem to be Shia else he would not be sitting next to who he is sitting next to.

Could be Indian but most likely Paki because it's what they do. If he was Indian, the UKistanis would have trumpeted it.

Karthik S
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3706
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 12:12

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Karthik S » 23 May 2017 21:12

Good they identified the militant freedom fighter's name.

a_bharat
BRFite
Posts: 599
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 09:54

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby a_bharat » 23 May 2017 21:18

Libyan origin Brit per Twitter.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 23 May 2017 21:29

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40011977?SThisFB post attack Sikh drivers came upfront to help all night

..btw..note the tone of article.. it tries to portray..we are a family..there might have been a terror attack but love prevails..manchester rocks...UK metals...
Last edited by IndraD on 23 May 2017 21:30, edited 1 time in total.


IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 23 May 2017 21:32

surpise...US intel is naming terrorist and not UK police so far...

Manchester terrorist Salman Abedi was the son of Libyan refugees.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 47887
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby ramana » 23 May 2017 21:41

US intel which was covering up for the ISIS inspired attackers in San Bernardino and Orlando are on an overdrive to reveal names that UK is not ready to release!!!!

What happens to classified intelligence sharing pacts etc.?

I not a tinge of gloating in the US media reports with all those bogus US experts pontificating about what should or should not be done.

What did you do after SB and Orlando attacks? Just covered up.

CRamS
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6082
Joined: 07 Oct 2006 20:54
Contact:

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby CRamS » 23 May 2017 21:43

Guys, if its not a Paki, then I have no interest in this anymore. In the sense that while I sympathize with the innocent victims, but I pay no more or no less attention than Brits pay when Pakis of the same variety as this Libyan guy kill my people. Matter of fact, rags like Economist and Financial times spoke the language of ISI in the aftermath of 26/11 and Mumbai train bombings. It still infuriates me and makes my blood boiling recalling the Brit narratives of those attacks.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 23 May 2017 22:19

Image

Bheeshma
BRFite
Posts: 592
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 22:01

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Bheeshma » 23 May 2017 22:30

Somehow I have no sympathy for these briturds. For what the ******** did to libya, this is not even 1% of the interest.

Falijee
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6225
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby Falijee » 23 May 2017 22:41

Sigh Of Relief In Pakistan. Manchester Attacker, Salman Abedi Is NOT A Paki. :mrgreen:

Salman Abedi named as the Manchester suicide bomber - what we know about him

he suicide bomber who killed 22 people and injured dozens more at the Manchester Arena has been named as 22-year-old Salman Abedi. Born in Manchester in 1994, the second youngest of four children his parents were Libyan refugees who came to the UK to escape the Gaddafi regime.

His parents were both born in Libya but appear to have emigrated to London before moving to the Fallowfield area of south Manchester where they have lived for at least ten years. Britain, as a humanitarian gesture, takes in this "refugee family". The emigre ends up being radicalized , and ends his "career" as a suicide bomber. ! The role of Pakistani origin Britishers cannot be ruled out !!!

Akshay Kapoor
BRFite
Posts: 1013
Joined: 03 May 2011 11:15

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 23 May 2017 22:49

rsingh wrote:Top hypocrites . Within minutes of attack it was labeled as terrorist attack. What if was revenge attack by some teenager whose GF went to concert with someone else? What if it was IRA is starting new attacks. Or it could be an attack by IS militant. In Mumbai when scums were on killing spree they were militants as per BBC. But where ever it is on UK soil it is terrorist attack. People died and I condemned the attack but UK has to understand that an terrorist is terrorist, be it in Africa,India or UK.


Plus 108. I didn't watch BBC at the Mumbai attacks time but not surprised at all by what you say. BBC is quite anti Indian but I have to say I have yet to find any foreign (English speaking) press that is not anti Indian. And older generation Brit Indians lap it up. I remember an argument with just weeks ago on this issue. So I stay away from Brit Indians as much as I can. But when I go back to India I hear the same BS just couxhed in different ways. As I told my English wife this weekend, 'cultural colonialism rips the soul out of a civilisation. Name me one country that speaks a forgein language and has done well'.

At the end of the day we shouldn't worry about what others say and address our problems ourselves with the clarity of thought and firmness of action. We did nothing after Kalichak , Mumbai and did nothing after the 2 Raj Rif Lt was murdered on his own home ground. 2 Raj Rif, the paltan that took Tololing top and this is how we repay it.
Last edited by Akshay Kapoor on 23 May 2017 23:41, edited 1 time in total.

Akshay Kapoor
BRFite
Posts: 1013
Joined: 03 May 2011 11:15

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 23 May 2017 23:00

Bheeshma, with respect may I say that is not the way to express your point. I know what you mean but it comes out differently. The enemy is common i.e. Radical (Sunni) Islam and removing gaddafi and saddam who were atleast secular was wrong. The Arab spring was wrong etc. And the west die sh feet it and gives a damn when terror happens at other places. But how does what you say help our cause. Surely BR can't be seen by the clueless west to endorse what's happened. We should say , Islam is the problem and you shouldn't interfere in other countries. Especially if they take on Islamists.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 47887
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby ramana » 23 May 2017 23:05

Akshay Kapoor wrote:Bheeshma, with respect may I say that is not the way to express your point. I know what you mean but it comes out differently. The enemy is common i.e. Radical (Sunni) Islam and removing gaddafi and saddam who were atleast secular was wrong. The Arab spring was wrong etc. And the west die sh feet it and gives a damn when terror happens at other places. But how does what you say help our cause. Surely BR can't be seen by the clueless west to endorse what's happened. We should say , Islam is the problem and you shouldn't interfere in other countries. Especially if they take on Islamists.


+108

More power to your elbow as the English say.

Bheeshma
BRFite
Posts: 592
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 22:01

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Bheeshma » 23 May 2017 23:06

Nobody is saying that I support what happened. But I am not putting some shitty union jack to my FB or whatever the clueless Indian pseudo liberals may do now. As for what the west may think or some british turd, I could care less.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 47887
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby ramana » 23 May 2017 23:09

Who is asking you to do that?

Akshay Kapoor
BRFite
Posts: 1013
Joined: 03 May 2011 11:15

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 23 May 2017 23:33

Bheeshma wrote:Nobody is saying that I support what happened. But I am not putting some shitty union jack to my FB or whatever the clueless Indian pseudo liberals may do now. As for what the west may think or some british turd, I could care less.


Instead of saying 'for what they did in Libya this is not even 1 pct interest' , you could say - 'this is what happens when you don't realise that Islam is the enemy not dictatorship or another form of govt. the dictator gaddafi was removed , Libya was handed over to Sunni Islamists and then they came to the UK. At the same time the west cosies up to the greatest exponent of salami Islam Saudi and the biggest terrorist nation on the planet ie Pakistan'

Karthik S
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3706
Joined: 18 Sep 2009 12:12

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Karthik S » 23 May 2017 23:47

Bheeshma wrote:Somehow I have no sympathy for these briturds. For what the ******** did to libya, this is not even 1% of the interest.


+1, more because what they did and have been doing to us.

KJo
BRF Oldie
Posts: 9445
Joined: 05 Oct 2010 02:54

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby KJo » 23 May 2017 23:58

:evil:
Image

Cosmo_R
BRF Oldie
Posts: 3323
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 01:24

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Cosmo_R » 23 May 2017 23:59

Akshay Kapoor wrote:
Bheeshma wrote:Nobody is saying that I support what happened. But I am not putting some shitty union jack to my FB or whatever the clueless Indian pseudo liberals may do now. As for what the west may think or some british turd, I could care less.


Instead of saying 'for what they did in Libya this is not even 1 pct interest' , you could say - 'this is what happens when you don't realise that Islam is the enemy not dictatorship or another form of govt. the dictator gaddafi was removed , Libya was handed over to Sunni Islamists and then they came to the UK. At the same time the west cosies up to the greatest exponent of salami Islam Saudi and the biggest terrorist nation on the planet ie Pakistan'


Yes. Exactly!

Akshay Kapoor
BRFite
Posts: 1013
Joined: 03 May 2011 11:15

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 24 May 2017 00:04

[quote="KJo"]:evil:
Image shocking. Muslim = biggest insult to a Sikh.

Rahul M
Forum Moderator
Posts: 16226
Joined: 17 Aug 2005 21:09
Location: woh log gawad hai, unpad hai !
Contact:

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Rahul M » 24 May 2017 00:14

since deleted.

ramana
Forum Moderator
Posts: 47887
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby ramana » 24 May 2017 00:17

Karthik S wrote:
Bheeshma wrote:Somehow I have no sympathy for these briturds. For what the ******** did to libya, this is not even 1% of the interest.


+1, more because what they did and have been doing to us.


Schadenfreude at wrong time will result in being labeled a boor and not gain anything for India.

So be realistic.

Bart S
BRFite
Posts: 774
Joined: 15 Aug 2016 00:03

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Bart S » 24 May 2017 00:20

ramana wrote:
Karthik S wrote:
+1, more because what they did and have been doing to us.


Schadenfreude at wrong time will result in being labeled a boor and not gain anything for India.

So be realistic.


Best way to handle it is pay them back in kind. Crocodile tears and mealy mouthed platitudes while ruthlessly pursuing our interests even if it means screwing them over.

Akshay Kapoor
BRFite
Posts: 1013
Joined: 03 May 2011 11:15

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Akshay Kapoor » 24 May 2017 00:28

Exactly, a razor sharp focus on our own interests always and every time.

UlanBatori
BRF Oldie
Posts: 8594
Joined: 11 Aug 2016 06:14

Re: Islamism & Islamophobia Abroad - News & Analysis (9-8-2014)

Postby UlanBatori » 24 May 2017 00:29

Falijee wrote:Sigh Of Relief In Pakistan. Manchester Attacker, Salman Abedi Is NOT A Paki. :mrgreen:
parents were both born in Libya emigrated to south Manchester ..least ten years.


Stay tuned and do not despair, birathers. 10 saal in Manchesterstan, surely parents could have afforded to send Salman baccha to LaHore for a propah binori ejjikashun. Let's see how long it takes for the link to turn up.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 02:50

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... tical.html
Theresa May says another terror attack is feared imminent and orders soldiers onto Britain's streets to protect the public following Manchester bombing by British Libyan Salman Abedi

BharataTalwar
BRFite -Trainee
Posts: 36
Joined: 21 Nov 2010 05:50

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby BharataTalwar » 24 May 2017 05:44

IndraD wrote:[img]http://i64.tinypic.com/sct30l.jpg[img]


Though this is not what got her reported. Apparently she called for a "final solution" in one of her tweets. We should not be supporting her in any case. She despises Indians just as much as she despises Muslims.


However the attackers links with Libya is a point of interest seeing how its another one of Britains success stories. Read up on how Ghadaffis London property portfolio magically disappeared after his death.

Pathik
BRFite
Posts: 510
Joined: 16 Aug 2016 05:22

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Pathik » 24 May 2017 07:32

As Pakistan needs more islam until it becomes 100% pure, the UK and EU needs more left and feminism until it becomes purer. The clash of co-existence between these two misadventure of ideologies has just heated up after the recent French election result. time to wait and watch like the big dragon

hnair
Forum Moderator
Posts: 3315
Joined: 03 May 2006 01:31
Location: Trivandrum

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby hnair » 24 May 2017 07:57

Bart S wrote:Best way to handle it is pay them back in kind. Crocodile tears and mealy mouthed platitudes while ruthlessly pursuing our interests even if it means screwing them over.


It is a sad tragedy that so many innocent people lost their lives. But we need to go straight to the root causes, instead of blaming ISIL or any such entities. We are deeply concerned at the rise in intolerance in British society, that marginalizes a lot of minorities and makes them into militants. Britain should realize that not all are bad, so no need for 700,000 troops in the streets. The british nationalists are fomenting trouble for electoral gains

(but seriously, Britain has crossed a threshold, by getting targeted in this fashion)

Pathik
BRFite
Posts: 510
Joined: 16 Aug 2016 05:22

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Pathik » 24 May 2017 08:20

"I will ride with you"
"Expect more terrorist attacks as more people like Trump get elected"
"We bombed their families in Libya, what other recourse do they have?"
"I refuse to hate muslims, no matter how hard the terrorists try" (not sure why the morons think that this is what the terrorists want)
"We refuse to cower and refuse to give up"
"When we bomb them everyday, they never say that all christians are bad"
"Hug a muslim today"
"Hail Britannica"

Singha
BRF Oldie
Posts: 60358
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 19:42
Location: Lupine but moderately dharmic

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Singha » 24 May 2017 09:19

the abedi family is from one of the largest and powerful clans in eastern libya it seems.
benghazi and misrata was where the west stirred the pot first ....

g.sarkar
BRFite
Posts: 1331
Joined: 09 Jul 2005 12:22
Location: MERCED, California

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby g.sarkar » 24 May 2017 10:02

a_bharat wrote:Libyan origin Brit per Twitter.

Magar dil hai Pakistani. Dig and you will find a Puke connection, guaranteed.
Gautam

JE Menon
Forum Moderator
Posts: 6850
Joined: 01 Jan 1970 05:30

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby JE Menon » 24 May 2017 11:03

^^The Three Degrees of separation rule will apply 100%

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 12:16

hnair wrote:It is a sad tragedy that so many innocent people lost their lives. But we need to go straight to the root causes, instead of blaming ISIL or any such entities. We are deeply concerned at the rise in intolerance in British society, that marginalizes a lot of minorities and makes them into militants. Britain should realize that not all are bad, so no need for 700,000 troops in the streets. The british nationalists are fomenting trouble for electoral gains

(but seriously, Britain has crossed a threshold, by getting targeted in this fashion)

have said earlier it is always the second generation which carries out such attacks. West all over shared their intel some time back and reached this conclusion. First gen immigrant is subdued and loses his life in GUBOing & adopting to 'new ways of life. Second gen enjoys more freedom, feels separated cos he is told he is equal to native but finds out this is not the case soon..in Muslim families in particular it can translate into radical thoughts..
There must be frustration in other ethnic groups as well but they mostly grow out into professionals and employees.

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 12:20

Image
last eve many turned out for I love MCR spirit..note many Sikhs making their presence felt
Image
unfortunately even magazines like Cosmopolitan label them as Muslim turned out..don't know ignorance or deliberate...

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 12:26

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/867258451025682432 often wonder who organises such a secular front every time..note from left to right..and why are many wearing pink??

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 14:11

as usual attacker was known to police, recently made a trip to Libya
Image

IndraD
BRF Oldie
Posts: 6470
Joined: 26 Dec 2008 15:38
Location: भारत का निश्चेत गगन

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby IndraD » 24 May 2017 14:12

accomplices of attacker at large..

Soldiers to be deployed on streets in race to foil second attack
Prime Minister Theresa May launches Operation Temperer
Military to guard Buckingham Palace, Downing St, Westminster
Threat level raised to critical, suggesting attack 'imminent'
Home Secretary reveals up to 3,800 troops can be deployed
Amber Rudd says Salman Abedi 'likely' not to have acted alone
Fears accomplices of Manchester bomber planning new plot
The bomber: University dropout who turned to terror
The victims: Girl, eight, among 22 people killed as scores hurt
Everything we know about attack targeting Ariana Grande gig http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05 ... e-victims/

Singha
BRF Oldie
Posts: 60358
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 19:42
Location: Lupine but moderately dharmic

Re: Indo-UK News and Discussion - April 2013

Postby Singha » 24 May 2017 14:33

dailymail.co.uk
French interior minister Gerard Collomb said this morning Abedi is believed to have travelled to Syria and had 'proven' links with ISIS.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z4hz92kZyB


Return to “Strategic Issues & International Relations Forum”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Falijee, Google Feedfetcher and 33 guests