Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 14 May 2013 19:37

CRamS you sound just like Shekhar Gupta. NS is a savior! A legend! A messiah!

He would now fight back to ensure either the army runs everything or the elected governments, he promised. Whatever the consequences. That he won a big majority subsequently (in 1998), made an army chief (General Jehangir Karamat) resign prematurely, fired a navy chief, forced a peace accord on Kargil, was removed in Pervez Musharraf's coup and then incarcerated and exiled, is recent history.

Allah and Aam Aadmi

saip · Post by **saip** » 14 May 2013 19:47

I know Birkin babe Khar used to sound like a man, but when did Sherry Rehman become a man?

Pakistan’s Ambassador to the United States, Sherry Rehman, has tendered resignation from his office

Link

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 May 2013 21:38

Philip wrote:.They haven't leapt to their feet in competition with India in inviting the Paki PM to Beijing! Dr.Singh and his quislings will now go all out to barter,nay hand over to the Sh
PS: ABV went to Pak in a bus.Will MMS travel to Pak in a tonga? Watch this space!

Did you say Tonga! MMS have been practicing this for long> Dont Miss this....

"GHODA PISHORI MERA,TANGAA LAHAORI MERA"
Baitho Mian ji Baitho Khaala
Main Hoon Manmohan Gah Waala.
Jaldi Barri Hai Yarro Nobel KI Yarro
Desh Biik Jayee Jhayye IN Few Haazaro.

saip · Post by **saip** » 14 May 2013 22:17

Listen you kafirs, the right way conduct elections is:

49 Pakistan poll stations record over 100 per cent voting!

Link

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 14 May 2013 22:59

anupmisra wrote:United Colors of Pakewatan (also called Shareef and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat):

I don't recall in previous elections such a clear regional mandates in TSP. Last time it was in 1971.

Blowchistan and Terroristan are clear case for following Bangladesh.

The need is for Pakjabis to think of them as liabilities and go the CIS way. Retain the major asset producing areas of Pakjab and spin off the badlands.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 14 May 2013 23:58

Azad Sindh-Baloch Coming: Pakjabi Out

MQM not to accept re-polling in Karachi’s NA-250

KARACHI: The Muttahida Qaumi Movement has rejected the decision by the Election Commission of Pakistan to conduct re-polling in NA-250, where polling was postponed on May 11 due to reports of alleged rigging and absence of electoral staff.In a televised press conference on Tuesday, MQM leader Mustafa Kamal rejected the election commission’s decision, blaming the ECP of failing to ensure timely polling. Kamal said the commission was covering up its own failures by announcing re-polling at 43 polling stations of the constituency on May 19.The MQM leader also said the party would protest against the ECP’s decision.Polling was not held as per schedule at some stations in Karachi on May 11, after which the ECP postponed polling at 43 polling stations of NA-250, PS-112 and PS-113 constituencies.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 15 May 2013 00:29

Lalmohan wrote:i cant remember where, but i read somewhere (perhaps in shashi tharoor's book?) about an interaction with nawaz sharief. he was having a normal discussion about politics somewhere in the west with an indian person (perhaps tharoor) before going on stage to address some group of 'south asians'. he then went on stage - spouted strong kashmiri azadi and pakistan khappey style stuff and then when he came off stage again said words to the effect of 'don't mind yaar, just politics onlee...' and then resumed his rational conversation...

And probably ST thought that was so kool, politically correct and secular onleee..

Like GCC-Al-Bin-Sourci proclaimed even KSA is a secular state deep down their golis. They just use islamism to put pressure on their opponents, competitors and partners.

India should take all these blows in stride and make 'strategic' partnerships with all these nations, but should not play these taqiyya games in its interests because it would hurt "business" interests.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 15 May 2013 00:48

abhijitm wrote:CRamS you sound just like Shekhar Gupta. NS is a savior! A legend! A messiah!
He would now fight back to ensure either the army runs everything or the elected governments, he promised. Whatever the consequences. That he won a big majority subsequently (in 1998), made an army chief (General Jehangir Karamat) resign prematurely, fired a navy chief, forced a peace accord on Kargil, was removed in Pervez Musharraf's coup and then incarcerated and exiled, is recent history.
Allah and Aam Aadmi

I wonder GoI would allow IA to do so even if NS begs PM of India to beat the hell out of TSPA so he can clean the mess. The e-KHAN-o-my would be hurt.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 May 2013 02:28

http://www.indiablooms.com/NewsDetailsP ... 30513x.php
"Return of Nawaz Sharif to help India-Pak economic integration"

Secular Delhi, May 13 (IBNS) Return of Nawaz Sharif at the helm of affairs in Islamabad will help its economic integration with India which will also aid the Pakistani economy revive faster, industry chamber ASS O CHUM said on Monday. The ASS O CHUM which has taken several initiatives in the past to foster economic cooperation between the two neighbouring countries, said the focus on economic engagement should increase to improve bilateral relations which have been marred by political reasons.“Return of Nawaz Sharif who wants to kick-start revival of Pakistani economy should be used as a fresh opportunity to cement the business and trade ties with India,” said Mr. D S Rawat, Secretary General of ASSOCHAM. He said a lot of investment and political willpower is required to improve trade facilitation at both sides of the border at Wagah. "The number of items of trade should also be increased at the Wagah border." The two countries also need to participate in mutual exhibitions and trade shows besides the informal trade on the line of control in Kashmir should also be given a boost.The bilateral trade was only USD 2.34 billion in the financial year 2012-13 while the third country trade through other ports like Dubai was much more. Like in the case of China, trade should be increased several times so that the people-to-people commercial stakes are raised. This in turn will help improve the political ties as well and aid in resolving some of the contentious issues.“We must increase the official trade and set a target of at doubling the bilateral trade in the current financial year. While we urge Pakistan to grant us the MFN status, New Delhi should ensure that the trade balance which is largely skewed in favour of India should be corrected,” the chamber said. According to the ASSOCHAM recent report on ‘The Potential of Indo-Pak Economic Engagement: A study with focus on post-MFN scenario’ reveals that bilateral trade between India and Pakistan might clock over $12 billion by 2015 if Pakistan accords India with the coveted most favoured nation (MFN) status.Exports of commodities like sugar and sugar confectionary, cotton, coffee, spices, tea, petroleum products, iron and steel, pharmaceuticals, petrochemicals, fertilizers, paints, automobiles, heavy industrial goods and others to Pakistan and imports of fruits and vegetables, mineral fuels, organic and inorganic chemicals, woolen products from Pakistan together with mutual trade promotion initiatives between the two neighbours can help boost the bilateral trade by almost five times from $2.34 billion realized in 2012-13 and the two neighbours can help each other and enhance trade, said The Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry of India (ASSOCHAM).
Against India’s merchandise exports of USD 1.833 billion to Pakistan, imports from that country were only USD 513 million, less than one-third.“Whatever genuine concerns are there from Pakistani businessmen should be taken on board. Correction of the trade imbalance will also help the Federal Government in Pakistan to give us MFN, which is more of a symbolic stance,” the chamber said.The enhanced trade cooperation can help Pakistan in some of its strong industries which, however, are battling the global slowdown like several other countries. Although India and Pakistan compete in the international market in the cotton textiles and apparel, the two nations can still cooperate in terms of certain value-additions, it said.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 May 2013 06:11

Lisa wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22515470

Lord Ahmed resigns from Labour Party

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/a ... 713009.ece

I am absolutely heartbroken, snif! snif!

IIRC didnt the same Muj announce a bounty on Ombaba after US announced a bounty on Hafiz Saeed?

Edit: found the link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... -Bush.html

He was "suspended" then. I am sure this too will pass.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2013 06:39

Afghans celebrate with Paki flag in Kabul

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 May 2013 07:18

Good advice from our former Foreign Secretary Mr. Shyam Saran though I despair that the advice will most likely not be heeded by our Congress Party led UPA Aministration who on the other hand appear to have a greater penchant Sharm El Sheikh type capitulations:

The Indian government should resist the temptation to make a grand gesture of friendship towards Nawaz Sharif

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 15 May 2013 08:01

ramana wrote:I don't recall in previous elections such a clear regional mandates in TSP. Last time it was in 1971. Blowchistan and Terroristan are clear case for following Bangladesh.

A similar comment / observation made by M J Akbar after the paki elections.

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 15 May 2013 08:05

MMS gonna do a IG

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 15 May 2013 09:53

http://tribune.com.pk/story/549510/bouq ... ing-offer/

Interestingly, Imran had earlier refused to see Nawaz Sharif in the hospital. Many wonder what caused this rapprochement between the two bitter rivals? The Saudi ambassador brought about this change of heart, according to sources. Sources said that top Saudi envoy in Islamabad, Abdul Aziz Ibrahim Saleh Al Ghadeer, met Imran at the hospital on Tuesday morning to enquire about his health. And it was he who persuaded him to see Nawaz Sharif. Sources added that close mutual friends of the two leaders also played a crucial role.

abhijitm · Post by **abhijitm** » 15 May 2013 10:22

ramana wrote:I don't recall in previous elections such a clear regional mandates in TSP. Last time it was in 1971. Blowchistan and Terroristan are clear case for following Bangladesh.

Just look at the sheer number of seats pakjab has for itself. Only who rules pakjab will rule pakistan. They have clearly learned the lesson of 1971.

Vikas · Post by **Vikas** » 15 May 2013 11:09

Why is that every Paki can claim 'don't mind yaar, just politics onlee...' while spewing venom against India and we are supposed to understand and appreciate it and somehow if some Paki is whiskey drinking, pork chewing snob, then he has to be felicitated by Indian Media.. Actually it is true for most of the Muslim nations be it Iran or KSA or any other clown from ME.
Let us spew venom against these clowns and see how the shoe feels in the other foot for a change. Maybe give protection to couple of terrorists from Middle east Like Gulf countries do and see how friendly they stay.

“Whatever genuine concerns are there from Pakistani businessmen should be taken on board. Correction of the trade imbalance will also help the Federal Government in Pakistan to give us MFN, which is more of a symbolic stance,” the chamber said.

So we need to pay Jazziya to Paki Govt to get MFN status so that these businesses can pay more donation to LeT like terrorist organization to kill more Indians and then we beat our chest that GoI is impotent. Are we all hardwired to harm our own country.
Surely we all can't have mass suicidal tendency starting right at the top with "THE" impotent one.

Anyways Laanat hai whosoever made this statement.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 15 May 2013 12:09

I am reminded of the khilafat movement where Muslim leaders would spew venom against Kafirs in public speeches and Gandhi would try and explain it away as references to the British onleeee. Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 15 May 2013 13:33

This time it’s not a Joke!: Niti Central
By Manoj Kureel
Published on May 15, 2013

Narad · Post by **Narad** » 15 May 2013 14:04

Former PM Raja Pervez Ashraf barred from leaving Pakistan

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 May 2013 18:23

arun wrote:Good advice from our former Foreign Secretary Mr. Shyam Saran though I despair that the advice will most likely not be heeded by our Congress Party led UPA Aministration who on the other hand appear to have a greater penchant Sharm El Sheikh type capitulations:

The Indian government should resist the temptation to make a grand gesture of friendship towards Nawaz Sharif

He looks at the TSP problem correctly, but I don't see much by way of what India needs to do in concrete terms. So just saying should insist on TSP reigning in terror is not going to cut it. India has to enforce it. Or else as has been the norm in recent times, from India alleges, TSP denies narrative, TSP and its 3.5 now openly say that TSP's use of pigLeTs is justified because India needs to get serious about Kashmir. This is like saying 9/11 is justified because US did not address Al Queda's demands. Nobody dare say that because US has shifted the goal post and making a statement like that would be considered sacrilegious. But in India's case, use of pigLeTs == Kashmir dispute is the opiion of the "international community". Its up to India to change that narrative. ShyamJi does not offer any strategy in that regard.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 15 May 2013 18:26

abhijitm wrote:CRamS you sound just like Shekhar Gupta. NS is a savior! A legend! A messiah!

I was misunderstood I guess. I did say "trust but verify", and emphasized the caveat "if he is sincere". But ultimately, as I have been saying in my other posts, this BS about so and so wanting peace but army/ISI don't is a lame excuse for India not keeping its powder dry. It is India that needs to force TSP to change stance.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 May 2013 20:48

No one in the security establishment in India will articulate strategy vis a vis Pakistan in a way that is satisfactory to anyone on BRF, or in the West

... No one who matters will ever say anything other than we want a stable and rational Pakistan. But we are happy with Pakistan as it is. Violent, and tearing itself apart internally. We will not discourage it, and we will ensure that it will simmer but not boil over, nor boil under. We will face spillover. Some Indians will die. In the larger scheme of things, it does not matter. Deal with it. We will not go to war with Pakistan and weaken ourselves, unless Pakistan has a deathwish and goes for it. Then it won't be just Pakistan. Everybody knows this. We will keep slowly getting stronger and stronger on the whole. Pakistan is not the game. It will be kept where it is. We are going to be a dominant country in the world, if not the dominant country, if the world as we know it survives. But we will not be like the other big powers, nor will we get there through big wars of our own.

Added later for purposes of completeness: MMS is an oiseaule and the government is corrupt.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 May 2013 20:56

I think there will be a terrorshit attack soon with clear links to TSP thrown in the mix.
Its has nothing to do with Badmash getting elected. Its the TSPA modus operanid to ensure the kabila lets them retain primacy.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 15 May 2013 20:59

Anujan, If you look at the electoral map, Badmash has to make amends with Imran Khan to have a pan TSP presence. Right now its all regional just as it was in 1971.
The KSA has stepped in to ensure that the Real Pakis and the Pakjabis ally.

Is Imran Khan a Ghilazai Pashtun?

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 15 May 2013 21:16

Imran Khan is supposedly a Niazi Pashtun, whatever that means.

Edit : Yes Niazis are Ghilzais.

You are correct.

arun · Post by **arun** » 15 May 2013 21:36

Former UK legislator Ann Cryer blames “cultural practices that have been imported into this country from Pakistan” for the Paedophile activity of a group of Mohamaddens, five of whom originated in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan:

"It's cultural practices that have been imported into this country from Pakistan and we must not lose sight of that fact.
"We can't just turn a blind eye to it."

From the Huffington Post:

Oxford Paedophile Ring: Former Labour MP Ann Cryer Blames 'Cultural Practices' From Pakistan

Meanwhile the penny finally drops on how the “Asian” term is used to hide the Mohammadden religious antecedents of the paedophiles though regrettably the fact that these crimes were committed by an overwhelming majority of individuals with national origins in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan has not evoked a similar reaction with regard to the use of the “Asian” term:

The Oxford ‘Asian grooming gang’ were not in fact all Asian. But they were all Muslim: is this a problem we are afraid to face?

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2013 22:15

hulaku wrote:Imran Khan is supposedly a Niazi Pashtun, whatever that means.

Edit : Yes Niazis are Ghilzais.

You are correct.

Are they? Niazis based in Mianwali are considered "half-Pathans" in Punjab.

hulaku · Post by **hulaku** » 15 May 2013 22:23

Agnimitra wrote:Are they? Niazis based in Mianwali are considered "half-Pathans" in Punjab.

Well i got it from this source

The Niazi (Pashto: نیازی, Nīāzī; pronounced [ˈniːˈaːziː]) are one of the most important and largest Ghilzai Pashtun tribe of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

http://www.geni.com/surnames/niazi

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2013 22:27

^^ I see. so there are other Niazis in Seraiki-speaking and Punjabi-speaking areas of Pakjab who do NOT speak Pashto anymore and have mixed with locals. They must be the ones referred to as "addha-Pathan" by Pakjabis. IK's family has lived in Lahore for generations, though he has land and "roots" in Mianwali.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2013 22:43

Election coverage provided the perfect distraction for PA to do this:

Battles in Pakistan Tribal Area Displace Thousands in past week

A new offensive by the Pakistani military against militants in a northwestern tribal area has displaced thousands of people in the past week, an official said Wednesday.

For years, Pakistan has been battling militant groups such as the Taliban in the tribal regions bordering Afghanistan. Civilians are often caught in the middle of the fighting, and hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced over the years of conflict.

About a week ago, the military launched a new push in Kurram, one of seven Pakistani tribal regions near the Afghan border, the official and displaced people said.

Details of the fighting have not been revealed so far but on Wednesday, Mujahid Hussain, chief of disaster management efforts in the Kurram tribal area said an estimated 35,000 and 49,000 have left their villages in the area.

...Most of those who fled are staying with relatives but Hussain says tents would be set up in a refugee camp near the city of Parachinar for those who have nowhere to go.

A local resident who fled said the fighting started on May 8 in the central part of the Kurram region, forcing people to flee their homes.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 15 May 2013 22:50

Jama'at e Islami likely to be given Education and Finance ministries in KP province under IK's govt.
The Mind and Lifeblood of "Naya Pakistan" in JI's hands.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 15 May 2013 23:00

>>Niazis based in Mianwali are considered "half-Pathans" in Punjab.

I believe so. In fact Tarek Fatah has somewhere taken Imran to task for playing the Pathan angle saying that in fact he's not a Pathan...

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 15 May 2013 23:21

arun wrote: The Oxford ‘Asian grooming gang’ were not in fact all Asian. But they were all Muslim: is this a problem we are afraid to face?

The prosecutor is also Asian, but not Muslim.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 15 May 2013 23:31

Imran Khan Niazi is a Pakjabi Pushtun from Lahore. These Niazi Pushtuns have settled down in the Punjab plains over the centuries. He is not a NWFP Pushtun by a long shot.

His Lahore roots explain his loyalty to Pakistan. If he were a true Pushtun, He would have joined the ANP.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 15 May 2013 23:36

IM is Paw-than of Brithan , Pakjabis clearly see him as Pythaan whose win would have brought in many real Paa-Thaans to mark their grazing grounds in Lahore to relish the both live and lovely Maal of Pakhjab . Asshraf Pathans would have relished the victory over Ajalaf Lahori in true historic Push-Tuun way.

Agnimitra · Post by **Agnimitra** » 16 May 2013 00:08

If JI is indeed given Education under IK's govt there, will that mean that now by official govt. decree no Malala can go to school in one of Pakistan's provinces?

atma · Post by **atma** » 16 May 2013 01:04

Meanwhile some pakiness tidbits from over here.

"Honeymoon prostitution arrest for Lincolnwood man reported missing in Florida"

RAPE went missing on Florida Honeymoon, but was indeed arrested soliciting flesh as in La whore.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=9103736

May 15, 2013 (CHICAGO) -- The wife of a northwest suburban man who reported him missing on their Florida honeymoon learned he was safeand had been arrested for allegedly solicting a prostitute, the Sun-Times is reporting.

he wife of Mohammed U. Ahmed, 21, of Lincolnwood reported him missing last week to the Orange County, Fla., Sheriff's Department when he did not return to their hotel, a sheriff's department spokeswoman said.

The wife then was notified he had been arrested in nearby Polk County.

After his arrest, Ahmed told a police officer he was on his honeymoon and contacted the undercover detective after he found her ad on backpage.com, according to police reports. He told her he was "horny" and offered her $100 for sexual intercourse, police said.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 May 2013 02:13

Munneh Ki Amma UQ Battta, Terre Iss Poaqwa Kei Abbu Kaa Naam Kya Hai
London police launch probe against Altaf Hussain

ISLAMABAD: The London Metropolitan police Wednesday launched an investigation against Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) chief Altaf Hussain following complaints by hundreds of British and Pakistani citizens.“Yes, we have started investigation against him on hundreds of complaints we have received,” metropolitan police spokesman Richard Jones told Dawn.com.He said the police was in process of collecting evidence.The London police have dispatched text of Hussain’s speech to the home department for translation in English.“We would see what course of action should be taken once we get all the evidence,” said Jones.Earlier in the day, British High Commissioner to Pakistan Adam Thomson told newsmen that the London police department had been “flooded” with complaints regarding Hussain’s statements.“We are well aware of Altaf Hussain’s remarks immediately after the election. We received quite a number of representations on them. More to the point, the London Metropolitan Police have been flooded with complaints from both Pakistani and British citizens about those remarks,” said Thomson.
In a speech televised across various media channels Sunday night , Altaf Hussain demanded to separate Karachi from the rest of Pakistan if the public mandate of his party was not acceptable to the ‘establishment.’ However, Hussain’s party later clarified saying it was taken out of context.“What we say is that wherever somebody has a concern that hatred or violence is being incited, that one community or another is being turned against others, this should be reported to the police. And I know that they take such allegations very, very seriously indeed,” Thomson said.He added that the London police was independent to investigate the complaints and was under no pressure from the UK government.He, however, observed that Altaf had later denied making such statements.“It may be that they were never said or they have been retracted. But as far as the United Kingdom is concerned, we have very strong laws which are enforced on that prohibit the incitement to violence or incitement of hatred. And we take these laws seriously.” Responding to another query about extradition, the British High Commissioner said that that Pakistan and United Kingdom have no formal extradition treaty. He said that extradition “is complicated in the UK Pakistan case as there is no extradition treaty. It doesn’t make it impossible, but it does make it quite difficult.”

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 16 May 2013 02:18

ATC extends Musharraf’s remand in BB murder case

Mush Fass lii Ree baabua

Raw Al Pindi - A trial court on Tuesday extended the judicial remand of military dictator and former President, General (Retd) Pervez Musharraf, till May 28 in Benazir Bhutto murder case. Separately, the trial court also adjourned the hearing in bail plea of Musharraf in the same case till May 20, 2013.ATC Judge Chaudhry Habib-ur-Rehman took up BB murder case and granted extension in Musharraf’s remand. Musharraf was not presented before the court owing to security concerns. During the hearing former City Police Officer Syed Saud Aziz and former SP Rawal Town Khurram Shehzad were also present in the courtroom whereas the five other accused arrested in connection with BB murder case were also not presented before the court.The court also accepted the application of FIA Special Public Prosecutor Chodhry AzZhar All In, who is supposed to submit complete challan in court in BB murder case against Musharraf, and provided him security a day ago. However, the prosecutor told media that the security provided by RAW Angers was for one day whereas he needed proper security in upcoming days. He requested the court to issue a notification to the law enforcement agencies to provide him adequate security on permanent basis.Rejecting another application of special public prosecutor in which he sough transfer of BB murder case to some other court because of delay, the court ordered him to approach Lahore High Court Raw Al Pindi bench for the purpose.