Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 30 Jul 2013 09:04

The jailbreak and escape of over 300 Taliban jihadists from the Dera Ismail Khan jail is not good news for even the jihadi-pasand Nawaz Sharif. His 'peace dialogue' with the 'bad Taliban' has not progressed at all. He convened an All party Conference to discuss the issue. Then, Imran Khan went abroad and stayed put there for a considerable period. Nawaz Sharif said he could not convene the APC whem IK was away. When IK returned last week, he refused to take part in the APC. He wants a private meeting with Kayani. IK already believes that he is the Prime Minister. This has put NS in a dilemma. Meanwhile, the 'bad Taliban' have kept true to their words that they would exact a revenge for the killing of Sheikh Wali-ur-Rehman. Once again, the focus of the 'very bad Taliban' is on the state of Pakistan itself. This is not good news for IK also. He is not going to escape the 'very bad Taliban', notwithstanding his overt sympathies for them. NS himself is under extreme danger as reports have already shown.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby partha » 30 Jul 2013 10:47

^
Even with a 20% conversion rate, 60 suicide bombers :shock: Pakistan will further go down the Pakistan in the coming months.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 30 Jul 2013 10:52

Apparently during the prison break several Shia prisoners were killed. Pakis will always be Pakis even in jail.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby rajanb » 30 Jul 2013 11:16

I wonder why Unkil did not step in and dronacharayed the prison? Helped out their buddies? made it more electrifrying than electricity? That way Pakistan would have flowed down the Pakistan faster.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Singha » 30 Jul 2013 11:22

16 car bombs in iraq yesterday a new daily record.
seems to be all out civil war between shia-sunni elements.
or are there other dynamics at play?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby vina » 30 Jul 2013 11:25

Rajanb wrote:electrifrying than electricity

ArmenT ullah, Pliss to add this in PRF Dickshunarry.

Bakistan China Fraandship " Taller than mountain,deeper than oceans, stronger than steel and sweeter tha honey and more electrifying than electricity!"

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 30 Jul 2013 11:32

^ They are not going to stop with the Himalayas, electricity et al. The inventive geniuses in TSP will work over time to extend the phrase.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby vishvak » 30 Jul 2013 11:32

Jail punishment in bakistan - to be fed biryani in jail till jailbreak by soosai halaal bumbers or untill conclusion of halaal talks with bad tallib - whichever is earlier.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Anujan » 30 Jul 2013 12:43

Taliban Spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan :mrgreen:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 30 Jul 2013 13:07

This DI Khan prison attack is extremely well planned to perfection. From DT,

The militants fought their way inside using rocket propelled grenades and machineguns, district police chief Sohail Khalid said. Mushtaq Jadoon, the town’s civil commissioner, said dozens of prisoners had escaped. “The Taliban have loudspeakers and they are calling the names of their friends,” he said. The gunmen also took over a nearby house and hospital, holding the residents hostage as they fired on police from the rooftops and laid ambushes for reinforcements. Police Constable Gul Mohammed said he was rushing to the scene when he was challenged by two young boys holding rifles.

“They told me to stop. I told them I am a policeman, and that’s when they opened fire
,” he said. Mohammed was shot three times. Police said there were other small groups of gunmen in the streets leading to the prison.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 30 Jul 2013 13:38

Mods are requested to Archive this post - preferably on the First Page so that we can congratulate Pakistan on Gwadar becoming the Hub of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor! :rotfl:

Gwadar to serve as hub of proposed China-Pakistan economic corridor

BEIJING: Highlighting the significance of Gwadar Port, a Chinese scholar has said it was true that China was enlarging its investment in some countries around the Indian Ocean, especially in terms of seaports. Besides Pakistan’s Gwadar, which serves as the terminal of the newly proposed China-Pakistan economic corridor, Chinese investments can also be found in Sri Lanka’s Colombo and Hambantota, Myanmar’s Sittwe The Deep Water Port of KYAUKPYU and Bangladesh’s Chittagong. Take Gwadar as an example. There is no doubt that as a deepwater port lying at the key junction of Africa, South Asia and the Middle East, it has prominent strategic significance, Hu Zhiyong, wrote in influential Global Times on Monday. China extending its transportation network to Gwadar is a necessary action to guarantee the safety of its sea-lanes and maintain the balance of power and stability in the Indian Ocean, Hu stated. However it is not true China’s involvement in the Indian Ocean bears ulterior motives under an ostensibly commercial cover, he added. China has shown no signs it planned to dominate the Indian Ocean and China has no intention to build naval bases beyond its territory. Besides, the ports that China is investing in do not have the capability of forming a ‘military chain.’ China’s influence in the Indian Ocean should be observed from a horizontal perspective. China is going global, as the other major powers are doing. Thus it is a well-reasoned move for China to deepen its relationship with countries surrounding the Indian Ocean, said the author of the article who is an associate research fellow at the Institute of International Relations, Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. app

Added Later : Myanmar-China gas pipeline starts flowing : company

BEIJING: Gas has started flowing to energy-hungry China through a pipeline from Myanmar, a Chinese state oil company said on Monday, in a major project that highlights their economic links even as political ties come under pressure.

The 793-kilometre (492-mile) pipeline runs from Kyaukpyu on resource-rich Myanmar’s west coast, close to the offshore Shwe gasfields, and across the country.


According to Xinhua, the gas pipeline will be able to carry 12 billion cubic metres annually, while the crude oil pipeline has a capacity of 22 million tonnes per year.
:(( :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 30 Jul 2013 15:43

SSridhar wrote:The jailbreak and escape of over 300 Taliban jihadists from the Dera Ismail Khan jail is not good news for even the jihadi-pasand Nawaz Sharif.


For reasons only known to themselves, the paki newspapers have "stopped" covering this event. Orders from above? This jail-break of (now 250) hard core tellibunnies, with its monumental consequences, has now been relegated to "yesterday's news". Something is brewing. Has anyone heard anything from Kayani?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby pgbhat » 30 Jul 2013 15:53

Anujan wrote:Taliban Spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan :mrgreen:
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hmm.. is that mac book air or mac book pro? I can't tell. :mrgreen:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 30 Jul 2013 15:56

Peregrine wrote:Gwadar to serve as hub of proposed China-Pakistan economic corridor
Chinese investments can also be found in Sri Lanka’s Colombo and Hambantota


I hope the free world is paying attention to the Chinese investments in this key southern port. Its strategic location is unrivalled. This port can control shipping lines between East and West Asia. Most of the land here is owned by the Rajapakse clan without whose approval nothing moves in SL. Now that the new highway is operational, the natural port's significance has grown multifold.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby rajanb » 30 Jul 2013 17:45

^^^

I had read a complaint somewhere, and its significance escaped me. (Was it in the AFP daily briefing?) that India had missiles aimed at Colombo and Ham-nagar...oops Hambantota.

Tubelight comes on now.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Joseph » 30 Jul 2013 18:47

anupmisra wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The jailbreak and escape of over 300 Taliban jihadists from the Dera Ismail Khan jail is not good news for even the jihadi-pasand Nawaz Sharif.


For reasons only known to themselves, the paki newspapers have "stopped" covering this event. Orders from above? This jail-break of (now 250) hard core tellibunnies, with its monumental consequences, has now been relegated to "yesterday's news". Something is brewing. Has anyone heard anything from Kayani?



Kayani has had the PA doing just enough to be able to say they are fighting the militants. Would he suddenly increase the tempo of activity so close to his retirement?


After the U.S. came and got bin Laden several years ago, the PA made noises about being more vigilant and quicker to react to major events within Pakistan.

There was the huge attack on the Bannu prison in 2012 and now a similar attack on the one in Dera Ismail Khan. Yet it appears that the PA didn't turn out a Quick Response Force for either event.

Maybe the PA plans to act quickly only if a foreign country tries to kill/extract the Mullah Omar, al-Zawahiri and Dawood types of people. They can't be bothered to do anything when the TTP is mounting major attacks on Pakistani prisons.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby kmkraoind » 30 Jul 2013 18:55

The times that await us

Its a TheNews article. It talks about the pain bestowed upon US intervention in Afgan on Pak. He tells only half truth, but he feels like the situation is dim for Pakis. One of the comment.

Dear Mir Saheb: You have written an interesting article citing Afghan war. I may add my comments on the same: We were never sucked into the Afghan war - we took our wrong options on the so called Jihad without looking into the very matter of Afghan war and whose interest we were to serve. But our extreme religious compulsions blind us and led us into a quagmire which we did not realize, has shaken the very foundations of a country that was created on a note where Musalmans could live a peacefully. A religious extremist in uniform robbed us of our wisdom and went in lengths in offering support to an illiterate tribal clan in the face of so called brotherhood.
You cannot say that Soviet Union was defeated rather it was retrieval tactical to their own domestic problems. The Americans took all opportunities to exploit, silly thinking of Pakistanis. We were a peaceful nation and our cities started flourishing with economic boom but our freedom was robbed by the rise of religious extremism. We should not draw parallels with Vietnam war and the struggles of Vietnamese people was for a just cause while in Afghanistan we poked our nose without any justification. If the cause of Vietnamese was not just, today they would have never been making progress. Contrary to that Afghanistan situation is totally different, the people fighting the war, look like awakening from a stone age - wrong concept and wrong priorities what is the ingredient of this war - criminals, war lords, illiterate and inhuman. The Vietnamese was a war joined by writers, thinkers, students and humane nation.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 30 Jul 2013 19:31

Karakoram Highway: China’s Treacherous Pakistan Corridor
When a Chinese company took control of Pakistan’s deep-sea Gwadar Port in February, much of the commentary focused on whether or not it heralded a Chinese military vanguard in the region. Though conventional wisdom seemed to be that a militarized Gwadar Port was a fretful prospect, for the moment, Gwadar is just an economic beachhead on China’s “march west”.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby kish » 30 Jul 2013 20:00

Typical paki response :lol: When get caught with their pant down, they start blaming others. This time yet another match-fixing scandal, they blame ECB, British press, IPL, Indian media & everyone else except themselves :mrgreen: .

why is only pakistan singled out for match fixing

Former Pakistan captain and match-fixing whistleblower Rashid Latif said Monday that cricket as a whole remains far from clean and his country should not be singled out :lol: .

Latif, who lifted the lid on match-fixing within his own team in 1994, was reacting after The Mail on Sunday said the recently concluded one-day series between Pakistan and the West Indies was being probed by the International Cricket Council (ICC).


It is heartening to see aam abduls moan and wither in pain, seeing their islamic pariah state is getting into trouble frequently.

Some of the comments(Tuesday night entertainment):

NK Ali
10 hours ago

Why does the British press not take up the issue of IPLHow the Eff can British press talk about IPL? :rotfl: . The IPL is the biggest gambling den in cricket and is currently undergoing an investigation with many cricketrs still in the lock-up. Cricinfo has carried an article by an Indian commentator who calls it an 'operatrion cover-up' instead of the original 'operation clean-up.' The Daily Mail and ECB had better come up with solid evidence otherwise, they could face a series of court cases. Salams



Asad
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Its silent monopoly against Pakistan to destroy cricket and it's talent. How come India being the headquarter of match fixing, always get away 8) because they are runnning the ICC along with ECB anD Cricket Australia. Why no one says that a match is fixed whe there's a match involving either of these three nations. Their cricket board takes a stance ad are not stupid like PCB. Time to wake up before it's too late



amer ali
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My friend dont you see it already, there is a mass lobby trying to shame pakistan and its assoicates. India is heavily funding these kind of initiatives. I know we do have our own people who were sell outs as well, but there are also external forces trying to destroy us.



iftekhar hussain
Because Pakistan is a Muslim country and its players are the followers of Islam. See the ICC could not do any harm to the Indian players who were involved in match fixing, it was a drama like much ado about nothing, and see the same in case of Pakistan.


Altaf
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The real home of match fixing is india and nobody is taking of it. Why investigate only Pakistani players?


Naveed Khan
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Indian and Indian Descent Journalist who are increasing controlling global media along with the global tycoons stranglehold on Media, wants to malign Pakistan at every step.


:rotfl:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby vivek_ahuja » 30 Jul 2013 21:08

Bad Taliban overwhelmed good Taliban during Prison attack :mrgreen:

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DERA ISMAIL KHAN, Pakistan (AP) — Prison guards said Tuesday that they were totally overwhelmed when around 150 heavily armed Taliban fighters staged a late-night attack on their jail in northwest Pakistan, freeing over 250 prisoners including over three dozen suspected militants.

It was the second such attack by the Taliban on a prison in the northwest within the last 18 months. But even so, the security forces were totally unprepared for the raid, despite senior prison officials having received intelligence indicating an attack was likely. Over a dozen people were killed in the assault.

The incident in the town of Dera Ismail Khan raises serious questions about state institutions' capacity to battle a domestic Taliban insurgency that has raged for years and killed tens of thousands of security personnel and civilians.

Hidayat Ullah, a policeman who was guarding the prison when the attack started at around 11:30 p.m. on Monday night, said he and several colleagues jumped into an armored vehicle inside the prison grounds and drove to the main gate to defend the compound. They directed fire at the gate after the militants blew it up, but a mortar or rocket-propelled grenade hit their vehicle, killing two policemen and wounding Ullah and two others.

"After that, I don't know what happened," said Ullah at a hospital where he was being treated.

Another prison official, Zeeshan Khan, said he was in the jail's main building when the attack started with two loud explosions. He rushed to the top of the building and saw a large group of militants on motorcycles, cars and a minibus rushing into the prison compound through the knocked-down walls. The militants also used dozens of smaller bombs to destroy other parts of the prison.

"The jail guards on the top posts started firing to prevent them from getting closer, but to no avail, and the guards were the first victims of their massive firing," said Khan. "The jail security officials called for immediate reinforcement as they were helpless before the massive attack."

The militants, who were shouting "God is great" and "Long live the Taliban," killed six policemen, six Shiite Muslim prisonersone of whom was beheaded — and two civilians, said Dera Ismail Khan's commissioner, Mushtaq Jadoon. Many hard-line Pakistani militants consider the country's Shiite minority to be heretics. The militants were armed with guns, bombs and grenades, and some were disguised in police uniforms.

The militants used megaphones to call out the names of specific prisoners for whom they were looking. They broke open the cells and freed 253 prisoners, including 25 "dangerous terrorists," said Jadoon.

Malik Mohammad Qasim, a civilian prison adviser for surrounding Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, said at least 38 of the prisoners who escaped had either been convicted or were on trial for terrorism charges.

The attack ended at about 4 a.m. when the militants and prisoners fled the compound, said intelligence officials. Authorities declared a curfew in the area and started searching for both the militants and the prisoners. Dera Ismail Khan is located near Pakistan's tribal region, the main sanctuary for Taliban and al-Qaida militants in the country, and many may have fled there.

The militants left behind four suicide vests, two rocket-propelled grenades and 50 hand grenades, said Inayatullah Khan, head of the police bomb disposal squad in Dera Ismail Khan.

Pakistani Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid claimed responsibility for the attack, saying 150 militants took part— a number backed up by Pakistani officials — and around 300 prisoners were freed. Eight of the attackers wore suicide vests, and two detonated their explosives, Shahid told The Associated Press by telephone from an undisclosed location.

Khalid Abbas, a policeman who heads the prison department in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, said officials recently received intelligence indicating a possible attack, but they didn't expect it so soon.

Pervaiz Khattak, the chief minister of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, said nobody informed him about a possible attack and he didn't understand how so many heavily armed militants could pass through so many security checkpoints.

"It is an intelligence failure. Just a day before, I was given a report of all is good about prison security," said Qasim. "Heads will roll. No one will be spared." :mrgreen: :((

In April 2012, Taliban militants armed with automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades battled their way into a prison in the city of Bannu in northwest Pakistan, freeing close to 400 prisoners, including at least 20 described by police as "very dangerous" insurgents.

One of the militants freed in that attack, Adnan Rasheed, was the mastermind of the latest prison break and spent months planning it, said a Taliban commander, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of being targeted by the government.

Rasheed recently gained attention by writing a letter to teenage education activist Malala Yousafzai, who was shot in the head by the Taliban last year in an attempt to kill her. Rasheed said he wished the attack hadn't happened, but told Malala that she was targeted for speaking ill of the Taliban.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby vivek_ahuja » 30 Jul 2013 21:19

Interesting tidbits coming out of the prison raid:

a) The attack lasted from 11:30 pm to 4:00 am (four and a half hours!!). Reinforcements were requested when the attack began, but no PA forces arrived to help. Suggests some inherent complicity or incompetency. Take your pick.

b) The Taliban knew exactly who was in the prison at the time of the attack and even had a list they were calling names from. Suggests that the "bad taliban" had insider help from the "good taliban" in uniform and had planned the attack well. Yet another data point suggesting that the PA security apparatus is heavily infiltrated.

c) The Taliban had planned ambushes along all known approaches for the possible incoming reinforcements.

d) As always, Shiite prisoners were beheaded and shot during the raid. The Taliban knew about these prisoners as well and planned for them accordingly.

e) Given the large size of the raid and the presence of police armored vehicles, the number of stated casualties is very low. Twelve people killed including the six Shiite prisoners plus one woman police officer kidnapped. The details of the attack suggest much higher casualties must have happened. I think a lot of the "wounded" numbers are actually KIA else how do the Taliban stay at the prison for 4+ hours going through their list without interference? Where had all the policemen gone to? If they were injured, they would have been executed. Perhaps they deserted the prison and ran for their lives to come back later and sift through the wreckage?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby James B » 30 Jul 2013 21:40

DIK jail after attack by Taliban

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Prem Kumar » 30 Jul 2013 21:48

I wonder how safe are the nukes? If 150 Taliban can take over a prison, maybe 1000 Taliban can grab a nuke. They would be prepared to make that kind of an investment.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Mahendra » 30 Jul 2013 23:10

Dont worry saar, even the Taliban knows that AQKs photoshopped nukes do not work

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby KLNMurthy » 30 Jul 2013 23:10

anupmisra wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The jailbreak and escape of over 300 Taliban jihadists from the Dera Ismail Khan jail is not good news for even the jihadi-pasand Nawaz Sharif.


For reasons only known to themselves, the paki newspapers have "stopped" covering this event. Orders from above? This jail-break of (now 250) hard core tellibunnies, with its monumental consequences, has now been relegated to "yesterday's news". Something is brewing. Has anyone heard anything from Kayani?

There was a similar jailbreak recently in Iraq. Are these dots asking to be connected?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby RamaY » 31 Jul 2013 01:07

Prem Kumar wrote:I wonder how safe are the nukes? If 150 Taliban can take over a prison, maybe 1000 Taliban can grab a nuke. They would be prepared to make that kind of an investment.


The nukes are already in Taliban control. the only problem is they had only half the key.

Mahendra wrote:Dont worry saar, even the Taliban knows that AQKs photoshopped nukes do not work

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Prem » 31 Jul 2013 06:31

Benazir murder case: Musharraf to be indicted on Aug 6
Mushiya Izz Dukhiya: Bhaag Mushy Bhaag

RAWALPINDI: Former military ruler General (retd) Pervez Musharraf is to be indicted on August 6 in the Benazir Bhutto murder case, an anti-terrorism court (ATC) in Rawalpindi said Tuesday.
jurt ordered the authorities to produce the former president at the next hearing of the case, adding that he would be indicted on August 6. The case was subsequently adjourned to the said date.
Following the adjournment, the former president returned to his Chak Shahzad residence, which had been declared sub-jail.The ATC had named Musharraf in the case in February 2011, and in August the same year he was declared a proclaimed offender and his property was attached because of his absence.Meanwhile, the ATC in Rawalpindi also heard the petition seeking the release of Musharraf’s assets and bank accounts. The court ordered the restoration of the former president's assets after hearing the petition. Earlier, the ATC had attached the accounts and other moveable and immovable assets of Musharraf in August 2011 after he was declared a proclaimed offender for his repeated absence in the Benazir murder case in which he is an accused.In related news, the Balochistan High Court rejected Musharraf’s bail application in the Akber Bugti murder case. A two-member bench of the Balochistan High Court, comprising Justice Naeem Afghan and Justice Mustafa Mengal, heard the case.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Prem » 31 Jul 2013 06:41

My name is Pakistan and I’m not an Arab
Miskeen Covert Doubting Jinnah and Denying His Fourfathers

In 1973, my paternal grandparents visited Makkah to perform the first of their two Hajj pilgrimages. With them were two of my grandmother’s sisters and their respective husbands.Upon reaching Jeddah, they hailed a taxi from the airport and headed for their designated hotel.The driver of the taxi was a Sudanese man. As my grandparents and one of my grandmother’s sisters settled themselves in the taxi, the driver leisurely began driving towards the hotel and on the way inserted a cassette of Arabic songs into the car’s Japanese cassette-player. My grandfather who was seated in the front seat beside the driver noticed that the man kept glancing at the rear view mirror, and every time he did that, one of his eyebrows would rise.Curious, my grandfather turned his head to see exactly what was it about the women seated in the back seat that the taxi driver found so amusing.
This was what he discovered: As my grandmother was trying to take a quick nap, her sister too had her eyes closed, but her head was gently swinging from left to right to the beat of the music and she kept whispering (as if in quiet spiritual ecstasy) the Arabic expression Subhanallah, subhanallah …’

My grandfather knew enough Arabic to realise that the song to which my grandmother’s sister was swinging and praising the Almighty for was about an (Egyptian) Romeo who was lamenting his past as a heart-breaking flirt. After giving a sideways glance to the driver to make sure he didn’t understand Punjabi, my grandfather politely asked my grandmother’s sister: ‘I didn’t know you were so much into music.’‘Allah be praised, brother,’ she replied. ‘Isn’t it wonderful?’The chatter woke my grandmother up: ‘What is so wonderful?’ She asked. ‘This,’ said her sister, pointing at one of the stereo speakers behind her. ‘So peaceful and spiritual …’My grandfather let off a sudden burst of an albeit shy and muffled laughter. ‘Sister,’ he said, ‘the singer is not singing holy verses. He is singing about his romantic past.’I’m sure my grandmother’s sister got the point. Not everything Arabic is holy. He was proud of the fact that he was born in a small town in north Punjab that before 1947 was part of India.In the early 1980s when Saudi money and influence truly began to take hold on the culture and politics of Pakistan, there were many families (especially from the Punjab) that actually began to rewrite their histories.For example, families and clans that had emerged from within the South Asian region began to claim that their ancestors actually came from Arabia.Something like this happened within the Paracha clan as well. In 1982 a book (authored by one of my grandfather’s many cousins) claimed that the Paracha clan originally appeared in Yemen and was converted to Islam during the time of the Holy Prophet (Pbuh).The truth, however, was that like a majority of Pakistanis, Parachas too were once either Hindus or Buddhists who were converted to Islam by Sufi saints between the 11th and 15th centuries.When the cousin gifted his book to my grandfather, he rubbished the claim and told him that he might attract Saudi Riyals with the book but zero historical credibility.After the complete fall of the Mughal Empire in the 19th century till about the late 1960s, Pakistanis (post-1947), attempted to separate themselves from other religious communities of the region by identifying with those Persian cultural aspects that had reigned supreme in Muslim royal courts in India, especially during the Mughal era.
However, after the 1971 East Pakistan debacle, the state with the help of conservative historians and ulema made a conscious effort to divorce Pakistan’s history from its Hindu and Persian past and enact a project to bond this history with a largely mythical and superficial link with Arabia.
In other words, instead of investing intellectual resources to develop a nationalism that was grounded and rooted in the more historically accurate sociology and politics of the Muslims of the region, a reactive attempt was made to dislodge one form of ‘cultural imperialism’ and import by adopting another. For example, attempts were made to dislodge ‘Hindu and Western cultural influences’ in the Pakistani society by adopting Arabic cultural hegemony that came as a pre-requisite and condition with the Arabian Petro Dollar.The point is, instead of assimilating the finer points of the diverse religious and ethnic cultures that our history is made of and synthesise them to form a more convincing and grounded nationalism and cultural identity, we have decided to reject our diverse and pluralistic past and instead adopt cultural dimensions of a people who, ironically, still consider non-Arabs like Pakistanis as second-class Muslims

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Prem » 31 Jul 2013 06:59

Cellular services to remain suspended in various cities today
Dekho Musalmano Talibano,Kuufar Ka Ilzzam Naa Ayye; Aisa Karo Ki Jannat Iss Din, Purii Shia Kaffirs Sei Bhar Jayye


LAHORE: The government has instructed the mobile phone companies to suspend their services in various cities of the country as part of security arrangements for Youm-e-Ali (RA) on Wednesday.The services would remain suspended in Karachi between 6:00 am and 8:00 pm Lahore 4:00am and 8:00 pm, Rawalpindi 4:00 am and 6:00 pm , Gujranwala 3:00 am and 1:00 am Thursday, Sargodha 2:00 pm and 4:00 pm.The cellular services would also be shut in Jhnag, Sialkot and others cites.Large rallies are taken out and procession and gatherings are organized across the country to mark the martyrdom day of Hazrat Ali (RA).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby arun » 31 Jul 2013 07:53

Peregrine wrote:Mods are requested to Archive this post - preferably on the First Page so that we can congratulate Pakistan on Gwadar becoming the Hub of China-Pakistan Economic Corridor! :rotfl:

Gwadar to serve as hub of proposed China-Pakistan economic corridor ..........{Snipped}..........


The referenced article by Hu Zhiyong who is identified as associate research fellow at the Institute of International Relations, Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, titled “India wears unreal ‘String of Pearls’” in the PR China government controlled Global Times :

India wears unreal ‘String of Pearls’

Meanwhile it seems to be Gwadar season at the Global Times. Today an article by Wu Zhaoli who is identified as associate research fellow at the National Institute of International Strategy, Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, titled “Economic corridor will be lever for all of South Asia”:

Economic corridor will be lever for all of South Asia

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 31 Jul 2013 09:28

We already know that the DI Khan jail break was well planned as it was earlier at Bannu and much earlie at Sarposa, Kandahar.

Taliban jailbreakers came in a 'barat' - The Hindu
More than 100 well-equipped Taliban militants came in a ‘barat’ or marriage procession before attacking sleepy guards at the central jail in Dera Ismail Khan :D

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby partha » 31 Jul 2013 11:45

Sherry Rehman to speak at Jamia Millia Islamia University, Delhi. Why? What's her achievement? Being Pakistani ambassador to US? I am sure she will use this opportunity to poke nose into internal Indian politics and for the usual Paki propaganda.

In other news,

http://tribune.com.pk/story/584181/dispossession-ahmedis-banished-from-place-of-worship-lahore-city/

LAHORE:

Ahmedis in Fatehpur, Gujrat district, have been banished from their own place of worship in Ramazan and fear that they will be deprived of the property by the local government and clerics.

On July 11, the first day of Ramazan, a group of Sunnis beat up the Ahmedis and kicked them out of the place of worship, telling them not to return, according to members of the Ahmedi community.

The Ahmedis filed a complaint with the police for the registration of an FIR against the assailants. The police did not register a case, nor heeded their request for protection. Instead, they sealed the place of worship, which is located on a four-marla plot, “because of concerns of a clash,” Dolatnagar SHO Riaz Qadir told The Express Tribune. He said that previously, both Sunnis and Ahmedis had prayed there.

In fact, the members of the two communities are related. The place of worship is located on four marlas within an eight-kanal property owned by an Ahmedi family which they were allotted when the Revenue Department conducted a consolidation exercise, known as ‘ishtimal’, some 20 years ago. Such land consolidation exercises are carried out every so often when inheritance laws result in the non-contiguous division of land holdings between heirs.

Police and revenue

The SHO said that according to the Revenue Department record, the building had been a Sunni mosque, but had been transferred to Ahmedis around 20 years ago. He said that the Sunnis were now claiming ownership of the place as a Sunni mosque.

The SHO said that he had seen the Jamat-i-Ahmadiya’s ownership document for a four-marla property within that eight-kanal parcel, but the document did not specify where exactly within that eight kanals the four-marla property was located.

He said that the question of ownership had been referred to the National Interfaith Peace and Harmony Committee and the property sealed in the meantime, with the approval of the district coordination officer. He said that the Sunnis had agreed to this, but the Ahmedis had not.

Asked why no assault case had been registered on the Ahmedis’ complaint after members of the community were beaten up and thrown out of the place of worship on the first day of Ramazan, the SHO said that since no blood had been spilt, there could be no FIR.

Land record

The eight kanals within which the four-marla property is located is owned by Tahir Hameed, who inherited the land from his father. Hameed, 18, said that his father had donated the four-marla property to the Jamat-i-Ahmadiya to build a place of worship, which they named Baitul Zikr. “Ahmedis have been praying there since before I was born,” he said.

He said that on the first of Ramazan, Munir Shah, Ahmed Raza, Maulvi Shabbir and others had attacked his brother Qamar Hameed and his cousin Adnan Ahmed and forced them out of the worship place. He said his brother and cousin had been beaten up. He said they were under severe threat from locals and had been told to disown the property. “Some extremist clerics have turned the locals against us and are trying to dislodge us,” he said.

Hameed said that the community had no faith in the Interfaith Peace and Harmony Committee, which is why they did not accept its role in arbitration.

When contacted by The Express Tribune, Asim Imtiaz, the vice president of the committee, said that he was at the patwari’s office and trying to establish the ownership of the disputed land.

He said that the four-marla property appeared to have been transferred to the Jamat-i-Ahmadiya by the patwari “by mistake”. He added that he was hopeful the dispute would be resolved and the property “would be given to Muslims”.

Tanveer Ahmed, another member of the Ahmedi community in Fatehpur, said that local clerics had been making worrying announcements in the mosques of nearby villages and he feared that there would be mob attacks on Ahmedis. He said that Ahmedis did not trust the committee to remain impartial on the matter.

“The Jamat-i-Ahmadiya has ownership documents for the property,” he said. “It is the responsibility of the police and the state to follow the law in settling the matter.”


RAPEs want us to believe there is a vibrant, liberal media in Pakistan. Express Tribune which is supposed to be liberal doesn't even use masjid / mosque when it comes to Ahmedis instead using "place of worship".

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Joseph » 31 Jul 2013 14:25

partha wrote:http://tribune.com.pk/story/584181/dispossession-ahmedis-banished-from-place-of-worship-lahore-city/

Hameed said that the community had no faith in the Interfaith Peace and Harmony Committee, which is why they did not accept its role in arbitration.

When contacted by The Express Tribune, Asim Imtiaz, the vice president of the committee, said that he was at the patwari’s office and trying to establish the ownership of the disputed land.

He said that the four-marla property appeared to have been transferred to the Jamat-i-Ahmadiya by the patwari “by mistake”. He added that he was hopeful the dispute would be resolved and the property “would be given to Muslims”.




Not the Ahmedis.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 31 Jul 2013 17:27

Took a Month to Plan Jail Attack, Spent Rs. 1 Crore: Pak Taliban on Jailbreak

Their meticulous planning is very obvious. Came in a 'barat' with concealed weapons at 11 PM, set up ambush points in all roads leading upto the jail to prevent reinforcements and have the escape ways clear, posted children at the ambush points to fire at unsuspecting reinforcements, had a list of jihadist prisoner names who needed to be released, came with a loudspeaker to hail their friendly inmates, cutoff electricity (may be no need to do that but it has to be ensured that electricity does not flow at an inconvenient moment), donned police uniform, destroyed all police vehicles first thing in the attack, knew exactly who the Shi'a prisoners were so as to be massacred as a sideshow etc.

A day after the Taliban freed over 250 prisoners from a high-security Pakistani prison, a top commander of the terror outfit has said they took a month to plan the assault and spent Rs one crore to execute it with military-like precision.

The Taliban gunmen launched their attack on Central Prison in Dera Ismail Khan of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province bordering the restive South Waziristan agency yesterday around midnight with a series of heavy explosions before firing rocket propelled grenades and machine guns.

Adnan Rashid, a Taliban commander who was released by the militants in a jail break incident in Bannu few years back, said the operation was named "Marg-e-Nijat" and it was launched to set free six militants of Quetta and some others.

It took a month to plan the assault and cost Rs one crore to materialize the plan, he said.

During the attack yesterday the militants killed six policemen, six Shia prisoners and two private security guards.

Security forces released a list of 252 prisoners who had gone missing after the Taliban attack on the prison. The list includes the names of 11 high-profile terrorists, Dawn News reported.

Meanwhile, the police on Wednesday re-arrested 45 prisoners who had escaped.

Security officials were quoted by the daily as saying that the re-arrested convicts had voluntarily surrendered themselves
to police and that a search was still underway to apprehend as many escaped prisoners as possible.

"We freed two important commanders hailing from Parachinar, six each from Dera Ismail Khan and Quetta. Our friends have now reached the safe place in Mir Ali in North Waziristan agency," Rashid told a private TV channel.

He also claimed that a lady police constable was in their custody. {She is uncovered meat.}

"It was part of the plan to remain in the jail premises for 20 minutes and then escape to the adjacent tribal agency South Waziristan within one hour of the attack," Rashid said.

"Eight special commandos (suicide attackers) participated in the jail break attempt who were equipped with latest night vision gadgets, and latest weaponry. In all thirteen vehicles were used in the operation and used two ways to reach the jail," the Taliban commander said.


Taliban commander Haji Abdul Hakim, Haji Ilyas and Walid Akbar are among those who have been set free in the jail attack, sources said.

Akbar was main accused in the attack on a Muharram procession in Dera Ismail Khan last year. Important commanders from Bajaur also escaped in the incident, sources said.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Lalmohan » 31 Jul 2013 18:05

^^^ 'rogue' military operation?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Brad Goodman » 31 Jul 2013 18:09

Pakistan's web of lies has been exposed: Captain Kalia's father on shocking video

Palanpur, July 31 (ANI): Kargil martyr Captain Saurabh Kalia's father N.K. Kalia on Wednesday said Islamabad's web of lies has been exposed following the admission of a Pakistani soldier on camera that they killed him during the war in 1999.

"A Pakistan soldier has admitted on camera that they killed him. Now, Pakistan's web of lies has been exposed. Their (Pakistan) President and the administration kept on telling lies till date that they did not know as to what happened with Saurabh and that this is an agenda of the Indian Government against Pakistan. But now he has openly admitted," he said.

He further said that he would show this video to his advocate Arvind Sharma and eventually move the Supreme Court placing the video footage as a proof sufficient enough to nail the lies of Pakistan.

"We can only appeal, but the future course of action will be taken by the Indian Government," he added.

A video taken during a Pakistani army function reportedly shows a soldier Gule Khandan bragging how they killed Captain Kalia and five other Indian soldiers. This video has been uploaded on You Tube.

Pakistan has always maintained that Captain Kalia was not murdered by its army and that they found their dead bodies lying in a pit.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby RoyG » 31 Jul 2013 18:25



Video of the b@stard recounting the encounter between Kalia's squad and the PA. How can 22 men hope to take on 300? The PA tortured and killed him and his squad mates. Our soft nature enables these guys to gloat on tv. Sick.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby member_22872 » 31 Jul 2013 19:09

^^^ I sympathize with Kalia's father, but he is trying to prove something which TSP already knows. They are epitomes of rakshasas, what use is his exposing help his family? neither TSP nor GoI are going to act. It will only add more pain to him that even such admissions on tape were ignored.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby Neela » 31 Jul 2013 19:38

Inside the Nanga Parbat Murders
They shot them at point blank range!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - May 13, 2013

Postby kish » 31 Jul 2013 20:41

2 soldiers, 8 terrorists killed in pakisatan. To keep it simple, 10 muzlims died during holy month of Ramzan/Ramadan in the land created as a safe haven for Indian muzlims.

Pakis need not worry, because it was izlamic death(A muzlim violently killing another muzlim). Had it been a kufr, things would have been much different.

2 soldiers, 8 terrorists killed in Pak gunvbattle


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