Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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US/UK process when a new Pak military chief is appointed.

1. Have puff pieces praising him in the media
2. Have a US general visit Pakistan
3. Give Pakistan $10 billion under some pretext or another
4. Praise how Pak military men look in uniform
5. Complain about how India refuses to yield to Pak military insecurities
6. Abuse Karzai and non-Taliban Afghans as unreliable and/or illegitimate
7. Give Pakistan loads of military equipment
8. Drop enough drones to keep domestic dissenters on their Pak-coddling happy

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Before y'all cry out in pain "Aaaah!! Meri Ankhein!!" please note the slack-jaw look on this damsel. Too much inbreeding?

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anupmisra wrote:
Lilo wrote: Bio of Generally Sharif as given by ISPR.
Begins with a reference to his Martial Chicken Stock :lol:
Gen Sharif is Mushy's man. He is beholden to him in more than one way. Nawaz "ex-hairclub" Sharief should know that.
You have to be from proper Martial Stock to implement proper Martial Law.
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A post in foreign policy blog about "South Asia"

http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... zs.twitter
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Anujan wrote:You have to be from proper Martial Stock to implement proper Martial Law.
Or a mohajir or with mohajir connections.
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Anujan wrote:A post in foreign policy blog about "South Asia"
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/20 ... zs.twitter
Alright, 'fess up. Who wrote this?

Cultural Concepts of South Asia–Part I
Indians are Indians and Pakistanis when caught in tight situations (like in Airports) are Indians too. In other circumstances they are South Asians. Being "South Asian" offers many advantages. Such as an overwhelming numerical advantage.
Example: When faced with the question “Is radicalization a problem”? South Asians can reply with a straight face "Only 170 million, or less than 10% of the South Asians are radicalized". Which sounds entirely reasonable.
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^^ Anupji' you do not know the famous Major from pakistan then!! You should read his blog particularly when he came to India as part of track-II diplomacy. This was keeper - landing airstrips in Indian airports are just like in Pakistan - only shorter and darker.
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He missed "Weak Electricity(AKA Electricity Stealing):"

When Indians build dams on our rivers they deplete the water of its electricity, when they do that the water that comes to Pakistan is weak in Electricity leading to our inability to generate enough hydroelectric power and hence power cuts here. The solution is nuclear parity.
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partha wrote:^
Confirmation to media comes from GHQ and not civvies :)
Of Course , Nawaz Selecting Son in law .. i mean Marital in Law has to be Qabooled and it take time to gather witnesses while Soon to be Law have the right for immediate celebration.
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Pakistan fails to penetrate Indian market
Giving MFN status to India and allowing import of many items will have devastating effect on the country’s economic condition.
“This huge network of standardisation shows that Pakistani products will never be given easy and free access in Indian market. They don’t even give easy access to European Union and the United States just to protect their local industries,”
“Going forward both countries can definitely benefit from increased trade in which they have a competitive advantage, however given that the economies of scale advantage is with India, trade surplus will remain tilted in India’s favour.”
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Pakistan names moderate :roll: as new army commander
Before his promotion, Gen Sharif (who is no relation of the prime minister)headed the army’s training and evaluation department and previously served in senior roles as a corps commander and head of the country’s premier training institution, the Military Academy in Abbottabad.

His brother died a hero :roll: in the 1971 war with India.
Pakistan chooses moderate to take over as army chief
Raheel Sharif considers the militant threat inside Pakistan as important as the strategic tussle with India, a retired senior army officer who Sharif has served under told Reuters.
"Sharif has played a big role in convincing the army that the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and assorted militants inside Pakistan are as big a threat (as India)," the officer said.
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So its Badmash Company in charge in TSP!!!
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Body language exberts, what's your opinion?

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partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
Ganja Sharif has theweaker hand vs Gandha Sharif. Plus chekc the distance between the Ganjas. Both r uncomfortable And old Mule's other hand is hanging
straight, sign of giving up.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Any reaction from lal topi about the selection? Lal topi wanted to see someone who will make Pakiban (TTP) shiver in their shalwars and he could masturbashan all night looking at the photu.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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^
Lal topi wanted (Pashtun lobby in Pak army wanted?) a Pashtun army chief. Badmash went with a Pakjabi. In picking a fellow Pakjabi, Badmash seems to have soch'ed "A known devil is better than an unknown angel".
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anupmisra wrote:Before y'all cry out in pain "Aaaah!! Meri Ankhein!!" please note the slack-jaw look on this damsel. Too much inbreeding?
Why are you doing this to us O kafir? My eyes are paining. :evil:
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Imran Khan bites the hand that fed him! The West's man in Pakistan for years,anglophile Imran,has gone "native" and is now betraying his masters.Just as OBL went native and turned on the US in Afghanistan,on the political front Imran is ditching the US as it prepares to retreat from Afghanistan,but reserving the right to exterminate any ungodly species it merely suspects of being anti-US,and no one is even mentioning collateral damage!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/n ... khan-party

CIA's most senior officer in Pakistan 'unmasked' by Imran Khan's party
PTI party names man in letter to police demanding he be nominated as one of those responsible for drone strike
Jon Boone in Islamabad
theguardian.com, Wednesday 27 November 2013

Anti-drone protest in Pakistan
Supporters of Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party protest in Karachi against drone strikes at the weekend. Photograph: Fareed Khan/AP

The political party led by the former cricket star Imran Khan claims to have blown the cover of the CIA's most senior officer in Pakistan as part of an increasingly high-stakes campaign against US drone strikes.

The Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party named a man it claimed was head of the CIA station in Islamabad in a letter to police demanding he be nominated as one of the people responsible for a drone strike on 21 November, which killed five militants including senior commanders of the Haqqani Network.

John Brennan, the CIA director, was also nominated as an "accused person" for murder and "waging war against Pakistan".

The US embassy said it could not comment but was looking into the matter. The CIA spokesman Dean Boyd would not confirm the station chief's name and declined to immediately comment, AP reported.

If his identity is confirmed it will be the second time anti-drone campaigners have unmasked a top US spy in Pakistan.

In 2010 another CIA station chief, Jonathan Banks, was named in criminal proceedings initiated after a drone strike. Banks was forced to leave the country.

As with the Banks case, questions will be raised about how the PTI came to know the identity of the top US intelligence official in the country.

Although nearly all foreign spies in Pakistan use diplomatic cover stories to hide their occupation, many, including station chiefs, are declared to the country's domestic spy agency.

The letter signed by the PTI spokeswoman Shireen Mazari demanded the named agent be prevented from leaving the country so that he could be arrested. The PTI said it hoped he would reveal "through interrogation" the names of the remote pilots who operated the drone.

"CIA station chief is not a diplomatic post, therefore he does not enjoy any diplomatic immunity and is within the bounds of domestic laws of Pakistan," the letter said.

The accusation comes at a time when drones have once again become a matter of intense controversy in Pakistan.

The country's interior minister, Chaudhry Nisar, denounced a drone strike in early November. Although the attack killed the much hated chief of the Pakistani Taliban, Hakimullah Mehsud, Nisar said it had wrecked the government's efforts to hold peace talks with militant groups.

And it infuriated Khan, who has built much of his political platform around opposition to drones, which he claims are largely responsible for the upsurge of domestic terrorism in Pakistan in recent years – a suggestion disputed by many experts.

The 21 November strike was even more provocative as it was one of the first ever strikes outside the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, where nearly all attacks by the unmanned aircraft have taken place in the past.

The attack on a religious seminary associated with the Haqqani Network was in Hangu, an area in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the province where Khan's PTI leads a coalition government.

Khan responded with a massive rally in the provincial capital of Peshawar and ordered PTI activists to block vehicles carrying supplies to Nato troops in Afghanistan.

However, party workers have struggled to identify Nato cargo amid all the sealed containers plying the roads to Afghanistan. The exercise has received no support from the national government and the police have tried to stop PTI workers blocking lorrie
The new head of the Paki army,reported to be a "nice man".He has to prove himself and since his brother was killed in an Indo-Pak war,there will be no love lost for Mother India.However,any "close associate" of Gen.bandicoot,the Mush-a-rat,cannot by any standards be called a "gentleman".The saying goes,you are known by the friends you keep.Such being the case,we must be ever watchful if this "gentleman" decides like his erstwhile bum-chum to take the "Kargil Road".Zia had the eyes of a "snake",Mushy was the "bandicoot",Kill-any the "vulture",Raheel has the eyebrows of the "eagle".More details on the "eagle".Apt description since he is also an avid golfer.There's some hope for him yet.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/n ... eel-sharif
Pakistan's prime minister announces new army chief as spymaster retires
Nawal Sharif's choice of 'gentleman' Lieutenant General Raheel Sharif will keep government in control of civilian affairs
Jon Boone in Islamabad
theguardian.com, Wednesday 27 November 2013

General Rahell Sharif
Lt Gen Sharif is Pakistan's newly appointed military chief, succeeding Gen Ashfaq Pervez Kayani. Photograph: ISPR/EPA

Pakistan's prime minister has appointed a new army chief closely associated with the country's recent struggles against domestic militancy, following weeks of delay and speculation over who would fill the powerful role.

Nawaz Sharif announced that Lieutenant General Raheel Sharif, the brother of one of Pakistan's most decorated war heroes, would take command of the nation's 600,000-strong army, after the retirement of Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, a former military spymaster who ran Pakistan's army for an unprecedented double term.

The new chief will not only control the country's nuclear arsenal, he will also have a deciding say on Pakistan's policy towards Afghanistan during a critical period that will see the end of the Nato combat mission in the country.

A close ally of former military dictator Pervez Musharraf, Sharif in recent years has held senior roles running the army's training and education programmes as well as being intimately involved in re-focusing Pakistan's army on counterinsurgency warfare against militant groups in the tribal west of the country.

His brother Shabbir was killed in action during Pakistan's 1971 war with India that led to East Pakistan breaking away to form Bangladesh.

Hamid Hussain, an expert on Pakistan's army, said Raheel Sharif was "a below-average officer" not well suited to lead a country in the midst of a bloody war against militants.

"He's nice, a gentleman but not regarded very highly," he said. "Most people in the army think his professional ceiling is at the major general level."

New army chiefs are usually announced six to eight weeks before they take command, giving them time to prepare for the job.

But Nawaz Sharif, the country's three-times prime minister, refused to make a quick decision, instead waiting until the very last minute and only calling his new chief into a meeting on Wednesday morning.

The decision is particularly fateful for Sharif, whose previous term as prime minister was ended by a military coup d'état in November 1999. The general who seized power, Musharraf, had been handpicked as army chief by Sharif just a year previously.

The drawn-out decision-making process has prompted speculation that the prime minister was deliberately attempting to stand up to a military establishment that is over-mighty and, he believes, a source of many of the country's problems.

However, according to one senior former colleague of Kayani, the delay was caused because Sharif had seriously considered re-appointing Kayani for a third term.

In the months since Sharif came to power, the prime minister had become convinced Kayani was committed to stopping the army from interfering in civilian affairs:

"The overall policy of the army during this period under Kayani has been to allow the politicians to take the driving seat again," said the former colleague.

When the option of reappointing Kayani ran into staunch criticism and had to be dropped, Sharif and his advisers were at a loss for whom to pick, he added.

Keeping Kayani would have been immensely controversial given the widespread disgruntlement within the army over his second term.

Analysts do not expect a radical shift in direction under Lt Gen Sharif, who reflects the outlook of an army moulded by six years of Kayani.

Lt Gen Sharif was closely involved in developing new counterinsurgency tactics designed for combating militants. He also worked on efforts to confront India's "Cold Start" doctrine, which enables the Indian army to attack Pakistan at short notice.

The focus on domestic militancy is unlikely to change, even though Pakistan's civilian rulers are resisting army calls for a military operation in North Waziristan, a pocket of territory controlled by the Taliban and al-Qaida affiliates.

All analysts agree that a military takeover is unimaginable as the army is still recovering from the reputational damage done by Musharraf's period in power and other major embarrassments, particularly the deep penetration into Pakistani territory of US special forces in 2011 during the mission to kill Osama bin Laden.

It is not known whether Kayani, who was ranked as 28th most powerful man in the world by Forbes Magazine last year, will be given an official position after retiring on Thursday.

But it is likely that the outgoing army chief – an avid golfer and president of the Pakistan Golf Association – will spend plenty of time at a custom-built mansion overlooking the greens of one of the country's finest courses.
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partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
NS's suit is pretty ugly and ill fitting too. Looks like a cheap ready-made jacket (sleeves too long, lapel too short, buttons in all the wrong places, visible label sticking out near his gut, doesn't look like he can button it closed because it appears too small), his pants are wrinkled and don't match the jacket and his shirt collar appears too tight.

His posture isn't too good either, he looks a bit slouching and weak and looks like he wants to be somewhere else (huge distance between the two people).
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ArmenT wrote:
partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
NS's suit is pretty ugly and ill fitting too. Looks like a cheap ready-made jacket (sleeves too long, lapel too short, buttons in all the wrong places, visible label sticking out near his gut, doesn't look like he can button it closed because it appears too small), his pants are wrinkled and don't match the jacket and his shirt collar appears too tight.

His posture isn't too good either, he looks a bit slouching and weak and looks like he wants to be somewhere else (huge distance between the two people).

Is this general the new hangman??
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Problem with kurshit is that he has electoral stars shining in his eyes and feudal obligations to uphold



India must stop being delusional about Pakistan

Tufail Ahmad
November 28, 2013
In a November interview, external affairs minister Salman Khurshid, recognising that “on-the-ground reality and the results of our meetings” with Pakistani leaders are “very disappointing,” argued nevertheless that India should give Pakistan “the benefit of the doubt.” His statement reveals
a lack of clarity in New Delhi about an important neighbour, as factors about doubt or hope about Pakistan are missing.
A year before Pakistan was created, Mr X of the US embassy in Moscow, later identified as George F Kennan, wrote a long telegram outlining how circumstances and the Bolshevik ideology were interacting to shape the internal behaviour and external relations of the Soviet State. While this interaction proved untenable, terminating in the USSR’s breakup, a similar interaction between circumstances and Nazaria-e-Pakistan — ideology of Pakistan, or ideas connected to Islam and taught to Pakistanis about their national identity — appears enduring.

In his new book Magnificent Delusions, former Pakistani ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani catalogues an array of delusional policies from Pakistan’s early days, revealing how US engagement with Islamabad has throughout failed to arrest Pakistan’s slide towards jihadism.

There is a recent pattern: each peace effort is followed by a terror attack. AB Vajpayee’s friendship treaty led to the Kargil War; General Pervez Musharraf’s peace moves under US pressure brought about the 26/11 Mumbai attacks; Nawaz Sharif’s talk of peace was answered by an attack on the Indian consulate in Kandahar and incursions into Kashmir. Islamabad’s use of jihadis emanates from the practice of Nazaria-e-Pakistan, configured to transform Pakistan as Madina-e-Saani, or second Madina, which being the first Islamic state under Prophet Muhammad. Like the Bolsheviks, Pakistani leaders cater to ideology and are impervious to the logic of reason.

For India, the newer threat is Pakistan’s sponsoring of the Indian Mujahideen. While Muslims are being falsely implicated on terror charges in India as the real culprits escape, it is equally true that Indian Muslims are being recruited by the ISI and its jihadi branches. As the US exits Afghanistan, Pakistan will have an excess of jihadis, more so as Sharif courts the Taliban. And: while the ISI-controlled militant groups in the past, the Pakistani State has sunk into a new reality in which the ISI must itself become part of the jihadi infrastructure.

The Indian republic cannot be a natural ally of a vibrant jihadi state. India’s engagement with Pakistan must be contingent upon improvements in Pakistan’s domestic conduct. India must freeze bilateral talks for the next 10 years during which Pakistan will hold two elections, hopefully ensuring the transfer of power without military interference. Over the next decade, Pakistan and India should evolve a non-political agenda through informal channels on the shared future of their peoples regarding environment, trade, water, education and media.

Before talks, it must be told to create greater democratisation in its society: by re-writing its constitution to permit Hindu and Christian Pakistanis to become heads of the State, quashing the law mistreating Ahmadis as non-Muslims, reforming blasphemy laws to annul the death penalty, and so on. Pakistan must undertake test-case legislative reforms, enabling it to become a respectable member of the international society of states.

A less-than-democratic Pakistan will continue to be India’s tormentor. After Khurshid’s statement, one hopes that India does not, like the US, get into a delusional relationship with Pakistan.

Tufail Ahmad is director of South Asia Studies, the Middle East Media Research Institute, Washington DC

The views expressed by the author are personal
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is this the same tufail of the paf blog?
lucky he lives in the US-of-A is all I can say
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Khurshid is President Zakir Hussain's Grandson IIRC. He almost migrated to Pakistan but stayed back to our misfortune.
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partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
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Not an exbert, but marshallah, see the body language a few years before declaring marshallah.....

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Taliban's tribute to Sachin Tendulkar
Taliban criticise media for unpatriotic admiration of Sachin Tendulkar
Lavish praise for the recently retired cricketer in the Pakistani press has so irritated the militant group that it has released a video ordering newspapers and TV stations to stop promoting him.

"There is an Indian player called Tendulkar. He is being showered with praises by Pakistani media and people," said Shahidullah Shahid, the main spokesman of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), during a video appearance flanked by two gun-wielding, balaclava-wearing jihadis.
But I love this one :lol:
"No matter how bad a player Misbah-ul-Haq is, he must be praised," Shahid said.
misbah ki to maar di
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Damn, if we didn't have an adversary such as Pakisatan, we'd have to create one! They invoke all the basest negative emotions in us, and as a bonus we get to laugh at them too.
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In this behaviour they share common traits with the Paki army their nemesis.

But their greenest green rivalry will triumph such minor convergences.
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Baikul wrote:
partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
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Not an exbert, but marshallah, see the body language a few years before declaring marshallah.....
Not an expert too. But, we know that Zia used to open the car door for ZAB and ZAB used to call him "my monkey General".
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i wonder if zia paid zab a special visit in his cell before he went swinging?
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Baikul wrote:
partha wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
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Not an exbert, but marshallah, see the body language a few years before declaring marshallah.
One more picture.... 8 months before martial law
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From link:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0hYtXyvpbiU/T ... 40/zzz.jpg

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Remember reading somewhere that Zia used to sweep ZAB's father's grave. He was the erstwhile nawab of Junagadh.
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SriKumar wrote:
Not an exbert, but marshallah, see the body language a few years before declaring marshallah.
One more picture.... 8 months before martial law
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Hain ji. I see a uniformed jihadi saluting with left hand. This should explain what zia did to zab.
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A challange to Imaran Khan
Unstoppable: Drone fires two missiles in Miranshah
A drone fired two missiles in Miranshah, South Waziristan late on Thursday, Express News reported.
The drones were still flying around the targeted area, reported Express News correspondent Nasrum Minallah.
It could not immediately be ascertained whether the drones had targeted a vehicle or a compound. It was also unknown whether anyone had been killed in the strikes.
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link: http://tribune.com.pk/story/638579/unst ... miranshah/
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SriKumar wrote:
Baikul wrote:Body language exberts, what's your opinion?
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Not an exbert, but marshallah, see the body language a few years before declaring marshallah.
One more picture.... 8 months before martial law
Image

From link:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0hYtXyvpbiU/T ... 40/zzz.jpg

Admins: I did not check this but if the link is a no-no, please to delete.
SriKumar Ji :

The Paki Pillock Saluting with his left hand indicates that this Image is "Doctored" i.e. photo shopped(?)!

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PAKISTAN : LIQUID FOREIGN EXCHANGE RESERVES

End Period : 22-Nov-13

NET RESERVES WITH SBP : US$ 3.4637 Billion

NET RESERVES WITH BANKS : US$ US$ 5.3323 Billion

TOTAL LIQUID FX RESERVES : US$ US$ 8.7960 Billion

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Peregrine wrote: The Paki Pillock Saluting with his left hand indicates that this Image is "Doctored" i.e. photo shopped(?)!
Salaam, Peregrin-e-falcon, I did have some tasveer-e-shaq about the image (given the source) but I found the same tasveer in Dawn's website. Milord....mein adaalat mein suboot pesh karna chahtan hoon...

http://dawn.com/news/800234/remembering-bhutto
It is an automatic slideshow, but you can scroll down and..scroll 'sideways' to click on the 5th picture to the right.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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zia is hands down the creepiest looking dude i've seen...
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Yes, creepier than Gollum.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Paul wrote:Remember reading somewhere that Zia used to sweep ZAB's father's grave. He was the erstwhile nawab of Junagadh.
Paul, ZAB's father was not the nawab himself. He was the Diwan or Prime Minister for the nawab. The nawab himself fled to Pakistan with his 1000 dogs and his harem. It was left to ZAB's father to invite India to take over Junagadh.
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