Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Joseph » 04 Dec 2013 11:03

Is Zaid Hamid still considered to be a mouthpiece for some in the PA - ISI or is he completely on his own when he shares his analysis with the world?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Rajdeep » 04 Dec 2013 11:12

Joseph wrote:Is Zaid Hamid still considered to be a mouthpiece for some in the PA - ISI or is he completely on his own when he shares his analysis with the world?

ISPR/ISI definitely supported him. Paying him.
He seemed to have gone rogue by attacking Kiyanahi and his policies calling all the names short of calling his pussy.
The last couple of years he was not given on air time like he was given before.
But in the last few months he seems to be gaining ground again. has a daily show. So who is supporting him , paying him ?
Is it ISPR ? a faction of ISI or he is getting money from Saudis ? your guess is as good as mine.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 04 Dec 2013 11:37

In fact, he called for a revolt in the TSPA to depose Kayani.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 04 Dec 2013 11:56

It is not clear if the attack on express tribune offices were the handiwork of TTP or MQM. They had a few unkind words to say about Altaf Bhai and such things are not taken lightly.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 04 Dec 2013 11:58

Nawaz Sharif warns of war over Kashmir - DAWN
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif expressed his resolve here on Tuesday for early settlement of the Kashmir issue in accordance with UN resolutions and aspirations of the Kashmiris, warning that failure to resolve the dispute in a timely manner could lead to war.

“Kashmir is a flashpoint and can trigger a fourth war between the two nuclear powers at anytime,” he said in his brief address to the budget session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) Council.

The prime minister also held a meeting with an eight-member delegation of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC), led by Syed Yousuf Nasim.

He paid tribute to the Kashmiris for their sacrifices and struggle to achieve the right of self-determination and said: “Please convey my message to every Kashmiri that the government and people of Pakistan are with them in their just cause.”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

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SSridhar wrote:Nawaz Sharif warns of war over Kashmir - DAWN
Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif expressed his resolve here on Tuesday for early settlement of the Kashmir issue in accordance with UN resolutions and aspirations of the Kashmiris, warning that failure to resolve the dispute in a timely manner could lead to war.

“Kashmir is a flashpoint and can trigger a fourth war between the two nuclear powers at anytime,” he said in his brief address to the budget session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) Council.

The prime minister also held a meeting with an eight-member delegation of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC), led by Syed Yousuf Nasim.

He paid tribute to the Kashmiris for their sacrifices and struggle to achieve the right of self-determination and said: “Please convey my message to every Kashmiri that the government and people of Pakistan are with them in their just cause.”


Modi-effect?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Neela » 04 Dec 2013 13:50

We pretend as though everything is normal.
Some AajTak Agenda 2013.
Look at the list of speakers - come from across the political spectrum in Delhi.


Hira Rabbani Khar is also scheduled to speak. The person welcoming her in video below is Mira Kamdar I think ...she was discussed some weeks back on this thread.
https://vine.co/v/hxidnOxOeZ6

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby abhijitm » 04 Dec 2013 13:55

Two Sharifs want to go up the hill to fetch the state of Kashmir.

This NS is a maha harami man. Expect something big in near future.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby dnivas » 04 Dec 2013 14:25

vivek_ahuja wrote:On a lighter note:

Bundaar updates

The Pakistani security apparatus and allied engineers not only produced the JF-17 Thunder prototype in a record period of two-and-a-half years as against a period of 8-9 years taken in the advanced world on the first model of a combat aircraft :lol: , they have also taken the Pakistani contribution in the avionics’ preparation to the optimum level of 70 per cent of the Pak-China joint endeavour and to a satisfactory figure of 58 per cent in the preparation of other essential components.

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wow. Is this a parody article from a mainstream news paper. It sounds like a chapter in a bad romance novel.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby SSridhar » 04 Dec 2013 14:57

dnivas wrote:
vivek_ahuja wrote:On a lighter note:
Bundaar updates

wow. Is this a parody article from a mainstream news paper. It sounds like a chapter in a bad romance novel.

Several things are re-confirmed by the above article.
  • Pakistanis just do not know what they are talking about.
  • They thrive on stealing
  • They do not simply understand or even appreciate the complexities of technologies involved. They are simply clueless.
  • They want to depend on some country or the other for their entire achievements
  • They fool themselves and their citizens
  • Pakistanis are willing to believe in their own tall claims
  • They believe in the extraordinary skills of their own scientists and engineers in a country which to-date has only 8 patents (OK, that was a few years ago; may be it is 10 now)
  • They are shameless
  • They provide unending mirth to the rest of the world
  • They think that the rest of the foolish world buys their myth-making


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby chetak » 04 Dec 2013 18:26

Hope all our guys are pissing in the snow and adding flavor to the melt waters of the glacier :)



Pakistan asks India to withdraw troops from Siachen



Pakistan on Wednesday asked India to withdraw its troops from Siachen, claiming their presence on the glacier was damaging the environment and polluting one of the country’s main sources of water supplies.

Sartaj Aziz, Advisor to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, claimed Indian forces on Siachen posed a ‘serious threat’ to Pakistan’s environment.

Pakistan is facing a water shortage and Indian troops are damaging the ‘virgin snow’ of Siachen‚ one of the largest sources of Pakistani water, he said. He further claimed that items of daily use disposed of by Indian soldiers were threatening the glacier’s existence.

Describing the presence of Indian forces on the glacier as a ‘big issue’, he urged India to resolve the Siachen issue “on priority basis by pulling out its troops”.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Lalmohan » 04 Dec 2013 19:06

so basically new coas in place, rumours of him being a softie
ganja made soft speeches at international forums - being a softie
so now to bolster their musharrafs at home, some strong anti-india speeches have to be made
same as it ever was...

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby vishvak » 04 Dec 2013 19:14

Shouldn't Indians ask pakis to withdraw forces from Balochistan? It's not right of pakis to suppress freedom fighters in Balochistan.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Gus » 04 Dec 2013 19:47

Gagan wrote:Any interesting funny Pak videos?
Zaid Hamid, Aapas ki baat, Hasan Nisar or Saleem Safi?
Please post...


i'll give you a funny artikal

http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/nare ... 27836.html

The first question I was asked when I reached Lahore was "Is India now going to be ruled by an extremist?" It's not difficult to understand what Abbas Siddiqui meant by this - he was referring to Narendra Modi's growing popularity in India


yes..that is the biggest worry for this paki ruled by moderately enlightendemented people. "oh noes..india is going to be ruled by an extremist..what we gonna dooooo"

The next day, when SAP (South Asia Partners), an NGO, held a one-day session at their office, the gathered activists, journalists and minority Left-wingers were 'concerned' about India. Not only that, they also made sharp remarks as to why the Indian media was toeing the government line where issues related to Pakistan, especially the LoC, were concerned.


a collection of useless people who have not done a honest hard days job in their entire adult life.

While addressing the Mumbai Press Club's 14-member delegation, Hashwani was unhappy with Indian politicians..


another bunch of useless people.

And this perception, according to Pakistan's media commentators and businessmen, is not unfounded. "From the 1980s, Right-wing forces are growing in India. You can call it a failure of secular forces but now it seems that they decide the political agenda," was the common refrain in the sessions with the Lahore Press Club.

But the Pakistani media has fond memories of former Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Vajpayee was the first Indian prime minister to visit the Minar-e-Pakistan in Lahore where the first call to form a separate state for Muslims was passed by the All India Muslim League. What he wrote at the Minar-e-Pakistan is the general idea which is normally discussed in most peace initiatives and sessions.

To quote Vajpayee:

"From Minar-e-Pakistan, I wish to assure the people of Pakistan of my country's deep desire for lasting peace and friendship.

"I have said this before and I say it again: A stable, secure and prosperous Pakistan is in India's interest. Let no one in Pakistan be in doubt about this. India sincerely wishes the people of Pakistan well."

The experience with Vajpayee has given many in Pakistan hope that even if 'hardliners' like Narendra Modi come to power, their government will work towards improving ties with Pakistan. "The BJP government under Vajpayee was good for us. Our relationship with India was the best at that time. A Modi-led BJP will, in a way, be similar to the people in power here. With so many similarities, they will both understand each other," Mohammad Tehsin, a human rights activist and SAP founder, Pakistan, explains.

A lot of water has passed under the bridge since then and everyone understands that the 26/11 attacks on Mumbai have played major role in derailing the peace process right from the Pakistan Foreign Secretary Jalil Abbas Jilani to journalists and Left-wing activists but they want India to move on. "Non-state players play a very important role in the India-Pakistan relationship, so reactions to the actions of such non-state players should be kept under check," says Amir Zia, Editor, Jang.


I love it how they just pretend that Kargil war did not happen. Vajpayee visited pak and pak replied with kargil and we are supposed to just forget kargil.

and wait..there's more.

we have to forget about 26/11 too because that is by "non-state" actors and we should keep our "reactions to such actions" under check.

The fcuking gall of these people.

No pity. No mercy. No nonsense.


oh and some typical week kneed vazha vazha kozha kozha (mumble mumble in tamilspeak) from our idiot brigade.

But the situation doesn't look that easy. Tahir Malik asked us, "Please go and talk to the common people here. They will not know who Hafiz Saeed is."

The next day in one question-answer session with students of the Bahauddin Zakariya University in Lahore, the following questions were asked "Why has the Indian army been committing atrocities in Kashmir?" If India wants to have peace why is it that the Indian side released excess water from dams which brought flood in Pakistan?" "Why is India buying missiles and military equipment to threaten Pakistan?" Finally Jatin Desai, from India Pakistan People's Forum for Peace and Democracy had to explain that this is propaganda by an extremist group and he insisted that he doesn't want to take the name of that person. Jatin didn't take the name of Hafiz sayeed .. :roll:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Peregrine » 04 Dec 2013 19:58

chetak wrote:Hope all our guys are pissing in the snow and adding flavor to the melt waters of the glacier :)

Pakistan asks India to withdraw troops from Siachen

Pakistan on Wednesday asked India to withdraw its troops from Siachen, claiming their presence on the glacier was damaging the environment and polluting one of the country’s main sources of water supplies.

Sartaj Aziz, Advisor to the Prime Minister on National Security and Foreign Affairs, claimed Indian forces on Siachen posed a ‘serious threat’ to Pakistan’s environment.

Pakistan is facing a water shortage and Indian troops are damaging the ‘virgin snow’ of Siachen‚ one of the largest sources of Pakistani water, he said. He further claimed that items of daily use disposed of by Indian soldiers were threatening the glacier’s existence.

Describing the presence of Indian forces on the glacier as a ‘big issue’, he urged India to resolve the Siachen issue “on priority basis by pulling out its troops”.


1. Pakistan is facing a water shortage due to its "Runaway Population Explosion" increasing Six to Seven Times since 1947.

2. Pakistan has no Virgins - snow or otherwise.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Anindya » 04 Dec 2013 20:41

Interesting war of words....

No possibility of Pakistan winning any war against India in my lifetime: PM

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Wednesday said there was no possibility of Pakistan winning any war against India in his "lifetime".

"There is no scope of Pakistan winning any such war in my lifetime," he told reporters.

He was reacting to a reported statement of Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a daily newspaper that Kashmir is a flash point which "can trigger a fourth war" with India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Paul » 04 Dec 2013 20:51

He is finally growing a spine! or is it the election outcome?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Vipul » 04 Dec 2013 20:57

Pakistan asks India to withdraw troops from Siachen

India has insisted that the demilitarisation of Siachen must be preceded by recording the existing troop positions but this has been rejected by Pakistan

Rejecting the Indian demand of recording existing troop position is more important to the lip-service otherwise regarding Environmental degradation.They think everybody is inbred and have low IQ's like themselves to believe in this sudden concern for the environment?
Having lost Siachen Militarily, desperate Shitistan is now saying envionment ke naam pe Siachen dede baba.What's next - Allah ke naam pe Siachen dede baba?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Vipul » 04 Dec 2013 21:03

Paul wrote:He is finally growing a spine! or is it the election outcome?


The way he has behaved and looking at his wilfull overlooking of India's Strategic concerns, i read more of a regret in his comment that within his life-time India will not be defeated by Shitistan.
Spine and him? Ofcourse it is the Power ke liye kuch bhi karega comment.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Vipul » 04 Dec 2013 21:12

abhijitm wrote:Two Sharifs want to go up the hill to fetch the state of Kashmir.

This NS is a maha harami man. Expect something big in near future.


Yes looking at the track record of how junior officers have behaved after superseding others to the Army chief post in Pakistan you can safely bet that post another loss to India, one sharif will be putting the other on the lamp-post. Badmash has not learnt anything from his and other pakistan leaders past mistakes.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby ramana » 04 Dec 2013 22:12

Gus, No compliants about removing electricity from waters released to TSP?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby JE Menon » 04 Dec 2013 22:23

When the good name of Pakistan comes into a even a story such as this one below, the time has come for that nation to take a pause, and think...

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/12 ... ostpopular

...should we import more fire extinguishers? Is there really a market? Is it true that the best known fire extinguisher manufacturer is called Gubo Private Ltd.?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby ramana » 04 Dec 2013 22:57

Looks like Badmash got his hopes rised in his recent DC visit.

Kashmir a flashpoint for another Indo-Pak War:Sharif

Flashpoint is code word used by Duplicity. So either Badmash hopes to appeal to SU by raising the code wrod or he an his new Badmash Junior are planning a new Kargil misadventure.
Recall 1999 Kargil had a lameduck NDA govt in charge while it was underway.
With 2014 elections looming maybe Badmash is planning a redux hoping for govt paralysis?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Vipul » 04 Dec 2013 23:07

If that happens, then there is going to be one decorated lamp post in Shitistan for sure.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby member_22872 » 04 Dec 2013 23:13

May be there is export market for both extinguishers and lampposts in TSP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 04 Dec 2013 23:17



Thinking of this, just signing the Rafale deal will lead to paki bankrutcy if they try to strengthen their defences. Paki cant win any war with India in pakstan's short life.
Paki Katurra Kaise Nachat Hai
Khali Jeb, Chotta Dimag
Aqal Ka Andha, Orr oopar sey Ganja
Chotta Admi,
Alwys Fuddu Baat Kaarat Hai .
Bhikh Mangta Mill Jaye agar Yeh
Sabak Sikhane kaa
Tamacha Jaarat Hai.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby kish » 05 Dec 2013 00:17

Stephen Tankel is writing a series of essays about recently retired Gen. Kiya nahi titled "General Kayani's Legacy".

General Kayani’s Legacy: Trying to Get Pakistan’s House in Order

The jihadist insurgency raging in Pakistan erupted after security forces raided Islamabad’s Red Mosque in July 2007. President Pervez Musharraf resigned his command as Chief of Army Staff in November 2007, making way for Kayani. Pakistan made no sustained effort in the areas of counterinsurgency and counterterrorism during Musharraf’s tenure. On the one hand, the insurgency had not yet exploded. On the other, these lackluster efforts created conditions for the threat to mature. Upon assuming command, Kayani increased the army’s ownership of internal security and began taking steps to enhance its commitment in this sphere. Yet the record has been mixed when it comes to tackling deeper institutional issues that must be addressed in order to defeat anti-state militancy.

Military doctrine provides a guide to action and is therefore a good place to begin. Kayani oversaw the development of new doctrine. The new Chief, General Raheel Sharif, most recently headed Training and Evaluation and played a critical role in developing this doctrine. Under his guidance, the infantry training manual was rewritten to include counterinsurgency. The infantry is the army’s backbone and historically has been India-centric. The addition of CT / COIN doctrine is therefore no small thing. However, this is not indicative of a shift away from India. Pakistan has always viewed its internal and external security as intrinsically linked, and the new doctrine is an expansion of the traditional focus. Indeed, it is notable that in addition to beefing up the Army’s CT / COIN doctrine, the incoming Chief also worked on augmenting the Army’s capabilities to counter India’s Cold Start doctrine.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby ramana » 05 Dec 2013 00:27

So where did this expert get the new doctrine handbook?

Most likely Badmash Jr, copied parts of the "Manual of Mountain Warfare" written in Quetta by British Army officers at the turn of the 20th century.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 05 Dec 2013 00:30

Serve Right, Just Another Day in islamist paradise
Karachi Celebrate Lucky Eeleven Earn 72 Sisters in Beeratherhood

KillerRachi: A leader of the Majlis Wahdat-e-Muslimeen (MWM) and three members of Tableeghi Jamaat were among 11 people killed in separate incidents of target killing in the city on Tuesday.SHO Jamal Leghari said that Maulana Jalbani and Sarfaraz Ali were on their way to MWM office in Ancholi Society when six armed men riding three motorbikes intercepted their car and opened fire. Maulana Jalbani and his guard died in the attack.Maulana Jalbani had contested elections from PS-126 as a candidate of MWM. He was also prayer leader at the Jamia Masjid Hussaini in Ayub Goth..The MWM has announced three days of mourning to protest its leader’s killing.“The assassination of the MWM Karachi’s deputy secretary general is an irreparable loss for peaceful and law abiding Pakistanis,” Shia leader Allama Raja Nasir Abbas said. He further said that his partyThe MWM leader also gave an ultimatum to the government, saying that culprits should be arrested within 24 hours “otherwise the MWM will devise a strict course of action”.Separately, a scout of Payam-e-Wilayat was shot dead near Singer Chowrangi within the vicinity of Sharafi Goth Police Station.Police said the deceased, identified as Syed Zakir Hussain, worked at a garment factory. Police added the victim was waiting for a bus on road when unidentified armed men, riding a motorcycle, shot him dead and fled. Police said Hussain was presumably killed over sectarian rifts.Also on Tuesday, three members of the Tableeghi Jamaat were shot dead and two others wounded in a targeted attacked in North Nazimabad.Police said the victims were returning from Madni Masjid after delivering a sermon when three armed men on a motorcycle opened fire on them.
Police said the deceased, identified as Amjad Khan, worked at a factory. He was tortured to death after being kidnapped by unidentified persons, police said.
In another targeted attacked, armed men killed four suspected members of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and injured another near Sarina Shopping Centre, within the precincts of Shahrah-e-Noorjahan Police Station.
Police said that unidentified armed motorcyclists sprayed bullets on a vehicle, killing Mushtaq Mahmond and his guards Jamshed Mehsud, Zar Khan Mehsud and Mujahid Mehsud. Shair Zaman Mehsud was injured in the attack.According to reports, the deceased and injured were residents of Kunwari Colony and hailed from Waziristan..

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Prem » 05 Dec 2013 00:47

Paki was Standing on UNO street,
Asking Sir Can You help me
Ammi Told me
I am DoubleCross Breed
Can You tell Me?
Who is real Aaabbu of Mine
Who really breed me ?
Oh, keep quite
Shouted man on the right
Who let you in, You inbred mislerble blight
He called the police;And Shouted
I have terrorist in my sight
Come fast,before he run
B'fore i use my Hunting Knife .

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby kish » 05 Dec 2013 02:20

I don't know, whether it is the usual chest thumping which ever gorilla takes over the COAS position do or is there a real terrorist attack threat.

I get a feeling that there is enough hints about impending terrorist attack(Godforbid). Earlier today, Bald sharif talked about "Kashmir & 4th War with India". Now COAS doctrine says about "disproportionate response in future wars".

“Army’s mother document” says growing Indian military power “disturbs strategic equilibrium of the region”

Pakistan’s official Army Doctrine calls on the country to “invoke disproportionate responses” in future wars with India, a copy of the document obtained by TheHindu has revealed. “The causes of conflict with the potential to escalate to the use of violence,” the classified internal document states, “emanate from the unresolved issue of Kashmir, the violation of treaty arrangements on sharing of natural resources, and the organised and deliberate support by external powers to militant organisations.”

The December, 2011, Doctrine does not name any country as a threat, but Pakistan has accused India of seeking to block its access to Indus waters, and backing terrorism. The Doctrine describes itself as the “army’s mother document” and “the fountainhead for all subordinate doctrines.”

Indian military sources told TheHindu the study was commissioned in the summer of 2008, soon after former chief of army staff General Pervez Kayani took office. It evolved through intensive discussions of the Kargil war of 1999 and the near-war that followed the December, 2011, terrorist attack on Parliament House

Georgetown University scholar Dr. C. Christine, author of a forthcoming book, Fighting to the End, says the Doctrine confirms what scholars have long known. “It tells us several interesting things,” she says, “among them that the Pakistan army sees Indian military modernisation as a threat, but that they also think nuclear weapons will insulate them from the consequences of pursuing high-risk strategies, like backing jihadist clients.”

Future wars, the Doctrine states, “will be characterised by high-intensity, high-tempo operations under a relatively transparent battle-space environment.” This, it states, is because of the “incremental increase in asymmetry of conventional forces and [the] nuclear overhang” — evident references to the programme of rapid modernisation India put into place after the 2001-2002 crisis, and both countries’ efforts to expand their nuclear weapons capabilities.

In the view of the Doctrine’s authors, de-facto parity between the two countries induced “through a combination of conventional and nuclear deterrence, has obviated the [likelihood of] conventional war.”

However, the Doctrine argues, “a disparity at the conventional plane continues to grow disproportionately, which too disturbs the strategic equilibrium of the region.” This, it states, “depletes peaceful diplomacy and dialogue, replacing it with coercion on the upper planes and violence across the lower-ends of the spectrum.”

“What worries Pakistan’s army,” says the former Indian Army vice-chief, Arvinder Lamba, “is their inability to organise offensive or defensive responses to our growing rapid mobilisation capacity. Their challenge is to deter us from striking by threatening nuclear weapons use in the face of the least provocation.

“India’s government and military must seek perceptual clarity on exactly what we intend to do in the face of such threats,” he said.

The Doctrine states that Pakistan will use nuclear weapons “only as a last resort, given its scale and scope of destruction.” Nuclear parity between India and Pakistan, it argues, “does not accrue any substantial military advantage to either side, other than maintaining the status quo.”

“In a nuclear deterrent environment,” it adds, “war is unlikely to create decisive military or political advantage.” However, it argues that “integration and synergy between conventional and nuclear forces, maintaining both at an appropriate level… [will avoid] an open-ended arms race.”

It does not state what the red lines compelling nuclear weapons use might be, but says future strategic “force development centres around developing and maintaining credible minimum deterrence, based on a [land, sea and air] triad, including an assured second-strike capability [to an Indian nuclear first-strike].”

“Lots of this thinking has been operationalised in Pakistan’s military,” says Rana Banerjee, a New Delhi-based expert on the Pakistan army, and former Research and Analysis Wing official. “Basically, this document signals they intend to react to even limited Indian military operations with disproportionate force, and hope fear of escalation deters New Delhi from reacting to events like 26/11.”

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby member_23252 » 05 Dec 2013 02:37

The Man Who Warned Congress about Pakistan Nukes Paid a Steep Price

“If they had busted those [Pakistani] networks,” he said last week, “Iran would have no nuclear program, North Korea wouldn’t have a uranium bomb, and Pakistan wouldn't have over a hundred nuclear weapons they are driving around in vans to hide from us.”


“I used to hunt Pakistanis,” he said. “Now I hunt birds.”


He has no idea whether Edward Snowden, the former NSA contractor whose leaks have caused an international uproar, drew a lesson from his case. But he noted that “none of us can go to Congress [on our own] with anything, if it’s classified.… If you understand this, you understand what Snowden did and the way he did it. My case shows what happens to you when you do it right.”


This guy whose career was destroyed by CIA, is freaked out at the fact that Iran is nearly Nuclear now, strangely doesn't show much concern at Pakistan going fully nuclear.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2013 03:01

Freedom fighters call for strike

India should offer full diplomatic, moral, material and emotional support to the Baloch freedom fighters.

announced a wheel-jam and shutter-down strike on the eve of the local government elections in Balochistan, scheduled for Dec 7
...Baloch Republican Party (BRP) and Baloch National Movement (BNM)
The state wants to deceive the world through these elections
Traffic across Balochistan would be suspended while all shops and markets would be closed for two days during the polls


Did not see BLA's name in the list.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2013 03:04

Starving bakis. Paceman Wahab Riaz booked on wedding charge

Wahab Riaz has been booked by police for breaching local laws against excessive wedding celebrations
The Punjab authorities passed a rule late last month banning marriage ceremonies beyond 10:00 pm in the night and barring more than one dish in meals
We raided his house at around 11pm and found that five dishes were served


Let me see. That would be Ghaas Makhani, Ghaas biryani, Ghaas ke Naan, Ghaas salad and water. That's five.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby anupmisra » 05 Dec 2013 03:10

Magic number 72. Pakistan records 72 polio cases in 2013

Pakistan recorded 72 cases of polio this year compared to 58 for all of 2012
Afghanistan reported only nine during 2013

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 05 Dec 2013 07:05

SSridhar wrote:Nawaz Sharif warns of war over Kashmir - DAWN
“Kashmir is a flashpoint and can trigger a fourth war between the two nuclear powers at anytime,” he said in his brief address to the budget session of the Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK) Council.


Hasnt there already been 4 wars? '48, '65, '71, '99 -- which of these is he not counting?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Anujan » 05 Dec 2013 07:10

kish wrote:Stephen Tankel is writing a series of essays about recently retired Gen. Kiya nahi titled "General Kayani's Legacy".

General Kayani’s Legacy: Trying to Get Pakistan’s House in Order


Instead of judging by what Kayani has done, you should judge him by what he has not done. (1) He has not conducted a coup (2) He has not lost a war with India. These two by itself is a 400% improvement over his predecessor, General Bandicoot.

The next general, General Sharif has much to live up to if he wants to match Kayani's achievements.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby Vayutuvan » 05 Dec 2013 07:20

Anujan wrote:Hasnt there already been 4 wars? '48, '65, '71, '99 -- which of these is he not counting?

Probably the last one - Kargil - when he was summoned by Kilton saab and got guboed.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - Aug 21, 2013

Postby sadhana » 05 Dec 2013 07:43

For Pak to become a 'normal' country, Pak mil chief has to

1. Ditch Afghan Taliban
2. Fight the Pak Taliban
3. Shut down jihadi groups
4. Regulate terrorist training madrassas
5. Tell Parliament to repeal FCR for FATA
6. Accept LOC as IB

Not even one of these things will be done in the next many years, but still Umrikan think tankis will keep finding phantom merits in every Pak Army Chief.

Pak Army will keep walking fine line between 'irrational' anti-India inclination and 'irrational' jihadi fervor or 'vitamin-deficient' quest for Kashmir/Afghan territorial influence.

In 2014, the biggest task for those with jihadi fervor is to bring reconciliation between Pak Army and Pak Taliban so that both may embark on their next round of vitamin-deficient jihadi quests. I think a big Indo-Pak incident will be the way they will engineer this reconciliation. They might have a big incident in Karachi Lahore or Islamabad, blame India for it and create a military situation.


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