Positive News from the USA

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 26 Jan 2014 23:52

A lot can be said about America. But the American system and society in general, deeply cares for its children, nurtures their growth, and focusses on their welfare from the moment they are born. The system makes allowances even for kids with compromised mental capacity and allow them to flourish in a nurturing environment. While poor countries like India abandons it children and allow them to grow with cows on the streets,the American system shows how a well thought out government system can ensure Human rights and dignity to even the marginalized section of the society. Long live American values!

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Jan 2014 00:11

Benefits of selective application of law

While law articulates and differentiates the right from wrong, application of law in all the cases, especially in marginal violation of societal principles may be counterproductive. Incarceration and punitive actions prescribed in law is not required, especially when a non-governmental agency assumes the role of a correction officer and guides the criminal to get rehabilitated, and become a functional, law abiding citizen of the society. While there is a prevalent, mistaken view that public attornies are predatory, there are several exemplary examples in the United states of America, where the very same public attornies have chosen to ignore marginal violations, and encourage wholistic rehabilitation of criminals.

Karan Dixit · Post by **Karan Dixit** » 27 Jan 2014 02:10

Not too long ago about six officers killed a homeless man by beating him to death. It seems like they are being rewarded for their bravery. They will be hired back into the force.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/polic ... al-beating

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 27 Jan 2014 02:21

Modern USA is even better than Somalia

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 27 Jan 2014 02:52

Liberal Legitimacy and the Least Bad Hegemon

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 27 Jan 2014 03:17

Karan Dixit wrote:Not too long ago about six officers killed a homeless man by beating him to death. It seems like they are being rewarded for their bravery. They will be hired back into the force.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/polic ... al-beating

1) Please realize that the beating was for his own benefit. Consider it forceful intervention to encourage behaviour modification.

2) Besides, since it is a Latino policeman and the deceased person is white, it glowingly illustrates the post racial world the US is in.

3) This story also highlights the fact that police do not lie in the US. When Manuel Ramos put on plastic gloves and said "Now see these fists? They're going to (expletive) you up" he meant exactly that. No doubt he does it to protect the US constitution and uphold the bill of rights.
Thank you for your service, Manuel Ramos, and for saving the tax payer valuable money that would have otherwise been wasted feeding, clothing and sheltering an otherwise useless, homeless, schizophrenic man.
Therefore there are a grand total of 3 positives in this story.

What have you done for the country today?

Karan M · Post by **Karan M** » 27 Jan 2014 06:12

chaanakya wrote:
Karan M wrote:
Well, that seems pure and simple a bug in the software across both the US & Japanese products without any malice intended, probably solved by increasing the test cases and making the software more robust.
Well racism need not be with intentional malice always. It could work at subconscious level as well. This reply found in comments section answers your point

The issue of software companies' testing on their employees being a handicap on race identification is but one way in which the microcosm of (mostly) west coast USA software companies construct a world in which everyone defaults to speaking English, has a particular timezone in the northern hemisphere, and lives in a continually connected digital network. Most usability bugs that affect the rest of humanity with respect to using products from Google, Apple, Microsoft etc stem from the limited experiential range afforded by the environment that the technology was developed in.

That comment by the poster is TBH invalid. The west coast is what it is because it is the worlds most developed technology cluster, and it is where most of these companies originated from (Fairchild, Intel etc). Plus, most companies have a finite amount of resources, engg and financial in which to test and they have to focus on a few critical markets. They default to where these resources can be applied easily. If the vast majority of the experienced engineering crew working on these aspects are found in one area, most of the customers are from predominantly one two zones, you concentrate on those.

Similarly, with Apple (say) selling more and more in China, they have a requirement to focus on that market. Ditto for India. WAnother thing is that electronic manufacturing by and large nowadays, and more and more of the testing, even getting to complex R&D is being driven out of Asia - especially Taiwan (ROC). If these companies were subconsciously racist, that would not happen. What is basically driving companies, pure and simple, is profit. That and the urge to make sure the quarterly results are somehow palatable to analysts who can then make or break the market capitalization. As a result of which any region/country which offers cheap and effective engg resources and any market which is sufficient for mass profit is automatically valuable. Unfortunately, this sort of profit above all behaviour means that corners are cut in sourcing items from dubious manufacturers in the developing nations, while the stress on bottomline above all, means experienced (and high value staff) in the developed world are ushered out before retirement. The better firms though do take CSR seriously and are investing in making sure their supply chain, as much as possible, is not sourced from exploitative sources.

Now with engineering services firms based out of India growing in skills, more work is coming Indias way too. And companies like Panasonic, GE are making products especially for emerging markets. Again, this is driven by economics (for the most part). Ultimately as India grows in economic and technological power, these firms will make a beeline here. This is very dependent on our own governance (which TBH, after 2014 hopefully will improve). Japan for instance, was an enemy of the west in WW2, but its engineers and customers are treated with significant respect by these firms. I remain positive India too will earn its way up the ladder (and perhaps, one day, the local firms will invest enough in R&D to lead the rankings themselves!).

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 07:03

American produce shines way above rest of the world

Among the more disgusting aspects of fruit and vegetables grown outside America are the critters that come with them and pungent odors and over-rich flavors in the small, less than bite sized specimens that are grown in other parts of the world.

American technology has changed all that. For example the huge tomatoes that are grown are not only five times bigger than those grown abroad, the flavor is modulated delicately so that is does not overpower the eater. American grown fruit and vegetable now contain far less of the offensive flavors that come preloaded in imported specimens.

But unlike less productive and less advanced third world countries , America takes no short cuts when it comes to eliminating nasty critters in your meal. American vegetables are enriched with special chemicals that kill all the bugs. More recently these health preserving ingredients, invented to fight America's enemies and lovingly made in American factories have been in the center of some controversy and enemies of America such like the communists and Al Qaeda have put out misinformation claiming that it is actually good to get fruit and vegetables full of spiders and cockroaches, and that American grown vegetables can be harmful.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 27 Jan 2014 07:47

Great thread.Thanks to all the 'Oldies' for making us see the light.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 27 Jan 2014 08:32

The story so far:
0. The initiation.
1. The dictionary.
2. The White house takes lead in promoting the United States leadership in robotics.
3. The United States takes lead in high-technology -- haptics, robotics, and healthcare.
4. An editorial: the value of satire.
And to come:
5. The Freedoms: Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain.
6. The Law: In whom shall we place blind faith.
7. The Zeal: Where humans aim to imitate and excel upon sheep.
…
16. The anniversary.

and, an anecdote for the young'uns.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Jan 2014 08:41

Human beings have always enslaved other human beings, in all part of the world from time immemorial. While Africans were enslaved by the Europeans for centuries, Slavery was practiced even more vigorously in other parts of the world. The most violent form of slavery was practiced in India in the name of caste, for 1000s of years, where people born in slave castes were forced to handle all the menial and labor intensive work of the society.

However, the most common form of slavery is women enslavement in their own home, and is not even recognized as slavery. While the western countries seems to have recognized this societal ill, and has empowered their women in the last 70 years, the third world countries have a long way to go. Women in third world countries continue to suffer in silence, without any way out of their misery. In India, the vegetarians subject their women folks to violent rapes, unlike the western vegetarian counterparts.

Not surprisingly, the world's only remaining superpower is the leader of women empowerment. The constitution and the legislation ensures that American women are 100% equal to men both at work and at home.

Statistics prooves American women are most empowered in the world.

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 27 Jan 2014 09:19

Karan M wrote:

That comment by the poster is TBH invalid. The west coast is what it is because it is the worlds most developed technology cluster, and it is where most of these companies originated from (Fairchild, Intel etc). Plus, most companies have a finite amount of resources, engg and financial in which to test and they have to focus on a few critical markets. They default to where these resources can be applied easily. If the vast majority of the experienced engineering crew working on these aspects are found in one area, most of the customers are from predominantly one two zones, you concentrate on those.

Similarly, with Apple (say) selling more and more in China, they have a requirement to focus on that market. Ditto for India. WAnother thing is that electronic manufacturing by and large nowadays, and more and more of the testing, even getting to complex R&D is being driven out of Asia - especially Taiwan (ROC). If these companies were subconsciously racist, that would not happen. What is basically driving companies, pure and simple, is profit. That and the urge to make sure the quarterly results are somehow palatable to analysts who can then make or break the market capitalization. As a result of which any region/country which offers cheap and effective engg resources and any market which is sufficient for mass profit is automatically valuable. Unfortunately, this sort of profit above all behaviour means that corners are cut in sourcing items from dubious manufacturers in the developing nations, while the stress on bottomline above all, means experienced (and high value staff) in the developed world are ushered out before retirement. The better firms though do take CSR seriously and are investing in making sure their supply chain, as much as possible, is not sourced from exploitative sources.

Now with engineering services firms based out of India growing in skills, more work is coming Indias way too. And companies like Panasonic, GE are making products especially for emerging markets. Again, this is driven by economics (for the most part). Ultimately as India grows in economic and technological power, these firms will make a beeline here. This is very dependent on our own governance (which TBH, after 2014 hopefully will improve). Japan for instance, was an enemy of the west in WW2, but its engineers and customers are treated with significant respect by these firms. I remain positive India too will earn its way up the ladder (and perhaps, one day, the local firms will invest enough in R&D to lead the rankings themselves!).

Profit can still happen with companies being consciously or subconsciously racist. And please note that the bug discovered was not an example of Chinese or Indian faces not being tracked. It was an example of Black faces not being tracked. They could have very well made software bugfree by testing on black subjects which are plentiful in America. I am sure it is not your case that they are not focusing on blacks as thet would be another indication of existing racism.

It is good that you remain positive on India and if you are in India , would contribute to its success. Rest of your points are totally unrelated to the topic.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 27 Jan 2014 09:40

Mods,
In all humility I ask.Why are the infidels and unbelievers being allowed to defile the "Good News" here?Why cant their posts be 'trashed' to relevant threads.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 10:19

Marten wrote:Chaanakya, the tuning for recognition of Chinese or Black faces is simply not a big deal. I'd venture to say it just wasn't done in this case.
Don't know which specific implementation was referred to by the poster, but if you share these details, I can definitely help analyze it better. We handle race identification on a regular basis, and it is not at all an issue if folks understand the processing. Real life issues are more to the tune of Turbans, long beards, unsubtle eyewear, scarves/veils etc. Color of an individual makes no difference to the results. Shape of the face is more or less similar across races, except eye shape and cheekbone placement. This is all that is really tuned.

Marten this is OT but I have some comments

It would be an interesting psychological study to see how dark people recognize faces versus light skinned people. A hint that there might be differences in the way people recognize faces comes from comments that all blacks or all Chinese look the same.

Ultimately human recognition is done by multiple factors. The "distant" factors are gait, stature, shape of head/hair, prominent features like chin/cheekbones and nose. Additional "close up" factors would be shape of nose, facial features, eyes, shape of lips etc. If an entire class of people has some features that are more easily visible than others then it is likely that those people utilize features that are visible first. Black faces have a lack of contrast (especially in photos) compared to whites - so among whites it is easier to focus down on features like eyes and lips for early recognition.

When it comes to images, I can tell you from my UK days that I and other Indian faces appeared darker on printed (film) photos developed in the Uk than in India. Clearly the machine settings in the UK were adjusted to show up white faces well (not over exposed) but darker faces came out very dark. In India the brightness contrast settings were geared to Indian faces.

I would guess that the software was probably looking for features that are more easily visible in whites - that is a specific skin brightness/contrast with breaks where eyes and nose are expected. Maybe even a range of skin tones? Dark tones were making that software crash. Clearly no black people were required to validate the software. Like T-72 with heater and no a/c in Rajasthan desert.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 14:28

Marten wrote:Shiv saar, the geometric proportion derived for the ISO 19794/5 standard is based on the format called Token (typically used for internal recognition algos as opposed to Full Frontal used for Passport/ID type applications). I can't talk much about internal processing for all s/w providers, but most would invert colors and use grayscale for processing geometric proportions. Color by itself has no role to play in the recognition process (color inversion would be based on the simple graph of grayscale colors which would inform the algo on whether to use inversion or not). It's not at all difficult to build. Therefore, that it wasn't done or that the tuning was not done would indicate lack of will or intent.

Interesting info, but getting back to this thread, you are looking at that video like a techie and not a politician or rabble rouser.

The guy who says that HP is racist (on the video) is sending out a sort of taunt, a challenge - as in "You farted". It is an accusation made out of the blue against someone who probably had no intention to be racist. That is what brings us back to this thread. Devyani Khobragade was indicted out of the blue without any clear intention to be a slave owner. This thread is to call to attention issues that people do not normally see as faults, and present them as faults. The subject may be a genuine fault or a false accusation - but it is a mirror image of the constant accusation that Indian and Indians face from every direction starting from the British era.

In that video, the finding is very simple. The software tracks a white face but not a black one. Conclusion: The software is unable to track a black face. Reason: <insert reason here>. The first person who inserts the word racism there has already scored one point for his viewpoint no matter how wrong he might be. Isn't that what the KKK Mays and Dobby Bharara did to Khobragade? "You farted". Why not return the compliment in a million different ways?

chaanakya · Post by **chaanakya** » 27 Jan 2014 14:43

Marten wrote:Chaanakya, the tuning for recognition of Chinese or Black faces is simply not a big deal. I'd venture to say it just wasn't done in this case.
Don't know which specific implementation was referred to by the poster, but if you share these details, I can definitely help analyze it better. We handle race identification on a regular basis, and it is not at all an issue if folks understand the processing. Real life issues are more to the tune of Turbans, long beards, unsubtle eyewear, scarves/veils etc. Color of an individual makes no difference to the results. Shape of the face is more or less similar across races, except eye shape and cheekbone placement. This is all that is really tuned.

Marten ji I know it is not a big deal but they won't do it because they are racist, aren't they? if they are not why wouldn't they do it?
And you are acknowledging that race identification is done on a regular basis. That validates my point only.They can do it and are doing it on regular basis I presume for identification of terrorists and racial profiling but won't do it for useful programs to suit black population. They are downright racist . That is how they are tuned.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 14:58

America leads in Asthma

Study of nearly 80,000 children shows foreign-born U.S. children have a significant lower rate of allergies than U.S.-born children, but after a decade in America the allergic protection wears off.

Coming to America: Living in the U.S. Increases a Person’s Risk of Allergies

Foreign-born U.S. children have lower odds of developing allergic diseases like asthma and food allergies than children born in the U.S., according to a new study.

However, researchers from St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital Center in New York City say that the allergy protection dissipates after a decade of living in the U.S. They assessed the health of almost 80,000 children in the 2007-2008 National Survey of Children’s Health.

The study, released today in the journal JAMA Pediatrics, also states that children born outside the U.S. with both parents born abroad had even significantly lower odds than those with parents born in the U.S.

“In conclusion, foreign-born Americans have significantly lower risk of allergic disease than US-born Americans. However, foreign-born Americans develop increased risk for allergic disease with prolonged residence in the United States,” the study states.

With the US being such a clean place where diplomats such as Alicia May, choked and deprived of of clean air in India, enjoy the freedom and fresh air of America, it is surprising to find that Al Qaeda and the communists have infiltrated Wikipedia and medical journals to come up with a way-out, unbelievable, "we-are-habitual-liars-as usual" theory to explain asthma and allergies in US born children. Never before has the war on terror been more important than now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis

In medicine, the hygiene hypothesis is a hypothesis that states that a lack of early childhood exposure to infectious agents, symbiotic microorganisms (e.g., gut flora or probiotics), and parasites increases susceptibility to allergic diseases by suppressing the natural development of the immune system. In particular, the lack of exposure is thought to lead to defects in the establishment of immune tolerance.

habal · Post by **habal** » 27 Jan 2014 15:18

Many folks are simply jealous of America. It is a fact that since US is infinitely cleaner and less dustier than sundry third world non-US countries, this sterile environment where one can find high level of (reason, logic) immune folks like Alicia May and Wayne May have recently been polluted by immigrants from Mexico, Guatemala, Peru, Paraguay etc who bring in third world viruses into American system since they enter illegally. We cannot CAVITY SEARCH these people for various hidden viruses that these third world immigrants constantly carry on their person, because they do not enter via a border point or AIRPORT (Airports are the primary point of PROTECTION OF AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE).

Because the air was so clean, the 'all american' USA citizens were not exposed to various virus and allergens and thus when the illegal immigrants came in, they also bought in a viral & allergen (yep they bring in allergies as well) epidemic. A lot of 'all american' natives esp in Dept of State are allergic to vegetarians.

It's all due to them illegal migrants.

Ban immigration from 3rd World.

USA USA USA USA

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 27 Jan 2014 15:58

Agribusiness exploitation of undocumented labor

According to a report compiled by Eric Ruark (pdf), the director of research at the Federation for American Immigration Reform (Fair), as of 2006, only 27% of workers hired by agribusinesses are American citizens, 21% are green card holders, around 1% are part of the guest worker program … and a whopping 51% are unauthorized immigrants.
It's agriculture's worst kept secret that farm owners routinely break the law by hiring undocumented workers, but the crime receives tacit approval from lawmakers sympathetic to the plight of major agribusinesses, which seem to consider cheap labor their right. In South Carolina, for instance, lawmakers passed their version of Arizona's draconian bill, and have mandated that employers use an e-verify system to check the immigration status of employees. Farm workers, however, were exempted from verification.

Ming-boggling hypocrisy of the UnitedStates.

"The routine is brutal and not very sanitary. Each feeding takes about four hours and once the birds are assigned a feeder, no one else can be substituted during the 22 day force feeding period that leads up to the slaughter … Not only do the feeders get no days off during that long stretch, and no overtime for any of the long hours, but they get very little time even to sleep each day. The feeding schedule for the ducks must be rigidly observed.

Am no lawyer but am pretty sure the following are routinely violated in the US.
-Immigration laws.
-Labour laws.
-Animal rights.
-Health laws

Oh Amurica!

anmol · Post by **anmol** » 27 Jan 2014 16:18

Weekly Address: Taking Action to End Sexual Assault
by Lindsay Holst, whitehouse.gov
January 25th 2014

In his weekly address, President Obama said that the Administration has taken another important step to protect women at college by establishing the White House Task Force on Protecting Students from Sexual Assault. An estimated 1 in 5 women is sexually assaulted at college, and the President said that we will keep taking actions like strengthening the criminal justice system, reaching out to survivors, and changing social norms so that all Americans can feel safe and protected as they pursue their own piece of the American dream.

Government: Guards may be responsible for half of prison sex assaults
by Marisa Taylor, america.aljazeera.com
July 26th 2013

Allegations of rape and sexual assault involving prison inmates are increasing, and nearly half of those assaults are committed against prisoners by correctional officers, according to a new report issued by the Justice Department’s Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Prison and jail administrators reported 8,763 cases of alleged sexual abuse of inmates 2011, representing an increase of 4 percent from the 8,404 that were reported in 2010 and an 11 percent jump from the 7,855 cases reported in 2009, the report said.

The report released late last week defined sexual victimization as any non-consensual sexual acts, abusive touching, threats and verbal sexual harassment. It involved surveying federal and state prisons, private prisons, local jails, military prisons and jails located in Indian country, all of which hold a collective 1.97 million inmates.

The issue of prison rape has received heightened attention since Congress passed the Prison Rape Elimination Act in 2003, a federal law calling for prisons and jails to keep detailed records of incidents of rape to be published by the government annually.

This year’s report, which crunched data from 2011, said that 10 percent of the cases reported that year were “substantiated,” meaning that they were confirmed to have happened after an investigation was launched.

That means 90 percent of the cases reported by inmates but were not substantiated. The report did not clarify whether those cases had also been investigated and then dismissed.

Some 49 percent of the incidents that year involved prison staff members committing what the report called “sexual misconduct,” or otherwise sexually harassing inmates, with the other 51 percent of cases comprising inmates assaulting fellow inmates.

Among the substantiated staff-on-inmate cases in 2011, 54 percent were committed by women, the report said. From 2009 to 2011, 84 percent of the substantiated staff-on-inmate cases involved a sexual relationship with a female staff member that “appeared to be willing,” compared to 37 percent of the cases involving male staff members during the same time period. The report noted, however, that regardless of whether the sexual relationship between an inmate and a correctional officer was consensual, it was illegal.

In the cases of sexual assault or “willing” sexual relationships with staff members, more than three-quarters of the correctional officers resigned or were fired, and just 45 percent were arrested or prosecuted.

Women prisoners appeared to experience disproportionate numbers of sexual assaults; while they represented 7 percent of state and federal prison inmates from 2009 to 2001, 22 percent of inmate-on-inmate cases involved women, as they did among 33 percent of staff-on-inmate incidents.

Two-thirds of the inmates who had been sexually assaulted by other inmates received medical examinations, and one-third were given rape kits.

The report did not indicate whether the increased incidence of alleged rapes and sexual assaults in prisons and jails might have been due to more reporting by inmates, or to heightened awareness of the problem by prison staff.

BJS statistician Allan Beck, who was a co-author of the report, told Reuters that a study from May 2013 (PDF) conducted by the same agency came up with much larger numbers, tallying some 80,000 inmate allegations of sexual abuse or assault during 2011 and 2012.

“Of course we find much higher rates of sexual victimization through inmates' self-reports than what comes through in the official records," he told Reuters.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Jan 2014 16:22

rgsrini wrote:The State Boys Welfare
A lot can be said about America. But the American system and society in general, deeply cares for its children, nurtures their growth, and focusses on their welfare from the moment they are born. The system makes allowances even for kids with compromised mental capacity and allow them to flourish in a nurturing environment. While poor countries like India abandons it children and allow them to grow with cows on the streets,the American system shows how a well thought out government system can ensure Human rights and dignity to even the marginalized section of the society. Long live American values!

fascinating...kick over any rock on the polished surface of america and there seems to be a deep, dark tale underneath.

nvishal · Post by **nvishal** » 27 Jan 2014 18:33

Believe it or not, the americans too have the old familiar "vegetarians = weak" and "meat = strong" attitude, a trait we once associated only with the pakistanis.

panduranghari · Post by **panduranghari** » 27 Jan 2014 18:35

link

An animal rights activist who went undercover and recorded incidents of animal abuse at a Colorado cattle company for an animal rights organization was cited Friday by authorities for animal cruelty.

She was at the wrong place. She should have come to India and documented how badly we treat animals.

Its the vegetarianism that is making us weak.

ManjaM · Post by **ManjaM** » 27 Jan 2014 19:06

Neela wrote:Agribusiness exploitation of undocumented labor

According to a report compiled by Eric Ruark (pdf), the director of research at the Federation for American Immigration Reform (Fair), as of 2006, only 27% of workers hired by agribusinesses are American citizens, 21% are green card holders, around 1% are part of the guest worker program … and a whopping 51% are unauthorized immigrants.
It's agriculture's worst kept secret that farm owners routinely break the law by hiring undocumented workers, but the crime receives tacit approval from lawmakers sympathetic to the plight of major agribusinesses, which seem to consider cheap labor their right. In South Carolina, for instance, lawmakers passed their version of Arizona's draconian bill, and have mandated that employers use an e-verify system to check the immigration status of employees. Farm workers, however, were exempted from verification.
Ming-boggling hypocrisy of the UnitedStates.

"The routine is brutal and not very sanitary. Each feeding takes about four hours and once the birds are assigned a feeder, no one else can be substituted during the 22 day force feeding period that leads up to the slaughter … Not only do the feeders get no days off during that long stretch, and no overtime for any of the long hours, but they get very little time even to sleep each day. The feeding schedule for the ducks must be rigidly observed.
Am no lawyer but am pretty sure the following are routinely violated in the US.
-Immigration laws.
-Labour laws.
-Animal rights.
-Health laws

Oh Amurica!

Too much negativity. If not for US, these feeders would be scratching the dirt themselves in Ecuador or some such South American dictatorship. And these birds would not even exist. I mean, these birds owe us their life, without the industry they wouldnt even exist. They are probably grateful, just like eyerakis.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 27 Jan 2014 19:07

rgsrini saaar,
you are on a roll.

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 27 Jan 2014 19:31

nvishal wrote:Believe it or not, the americans too have the old familiar "vegetarians = weak" and "meat = strong" attitude, a trait we once associated only with the pakistanis.

With Americans, it is more like "Whatever we do, it is the best and everyone should follow suit" attitude. So if they flip to being veggies, they behave like they discovered something new and look down at people who don't do the same. It could be anything...

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 27 Jan 2014 20:13

U.S.A. is No. 1

U.S.A. is No. 1

U.S.A. is No. 1

Take that you losers, US is the undisputed world leader while you turd world people rot in your shit hole. Now to celebrate I am gonna go and get stoned, who wants to join(t).

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Jan 2014 20:17

svenkat wrote:rgsrini saaar,
you are on a roll.

All credit goes to the American civilization, which is a shining beacon of hope to humanity. Without the advancement of western civilization and the breathtaking evolution of western mind, the entire humanity would have been condenmed to suffer in the hell, that we had created ourselves on Earth. Americans taught us how a strong judicial system can deliver justice on time. They demonstrated how nurturing children helps them to become leaders when they grow up. They even proved that empowering women is fundamental to the growth of the nation.

Here is an example that captures the essence of Judicial objectivism, psychosocial nourishment of children and women empowerment all rolled into one.

Moving story of human compassion in the US of A

My heart bleeds for thirdworld country like India, and I cry in silence hoping that humanity as a whole get inspired by this moving story of human compassion.

[Note: The thirdworld brain in me could not get the spelling of "psycho" correct in my first attempt, and I had to correct it]

Sagar G · Post by **Sagar G** » 27 Jan 2014 20:26

Expecting parents or couples planning to have childrens now can look upto USA for guidance regarding How to Take Care of Your Child. It's unnecessary to say that in the industrialized world USA tops the table in providing care for their children, so much so that it beats the care provided by USA to their defence forces.

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 27 Jan 2014 20:31

^^^rgsrini saar, we call it child discipline in the USA. And our courts agree. See they didn't charge the judge for any crime.

UlanBatori · Post by **UlanBatori** » 27 Jan 2014 20:35

fascinating...kick over any rock on the polished surface of ******* and there seems to be a deep, dark tale underneath.

And the moral (if any) of this thread is that one can substitute any place for the ******* that has (a) a good PR division and (b) fails to execute anyone who digs and publishes the truth. Of course they only remember this when writing about the US of A, and forget that in going back to being DrainBrains when writing about, say, India.
Saudi Arabia and PRC (the latter is getting too lax these days) are stellar examples of places with only the polished rocks.
I have to

at these kuffar capitalist imperliasts. Tearing each other apart, instead of agreeing to extradite and **neutralize** the troublemakers, splittists, BigMouths, etc.

Old NRA member quoting Confucius say:

Dead furriners tell no tales

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Jan 2014 20:38

If Obama truly believes in ending sexual assault he should instruct his goons in USMS to stop cavity searches for starters. He does not need a new law from congress for this.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Jan 2014 20:38

^^ShankarCag-ji, I don't understand your comment. Why would your court charge the judge for displaying a high degree of human compassion, that is unmatched in the developing world. Saar, these are uplifting stories that should be shared with the whole of humanity. But I doubt that the eastern minds are evolved enough to understand the sophisticated nuances of this astounding act of kindness.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 27 Jan 2014 21:01

Amreeki ability to put people behind bars is astounding - whopping 716 per 100,000 of population is incarcerated. Speaks about the unforgiving nature of the judiciary & also the people.
Similarly rape+Violence against women incident count to population must be shown - aren"t we all not interested in glorious Amreeki chivalry.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 21:11

nvishal wrote:Believe it or not, the americans too have the old familiar "vegetarians = weak" and "meat = strong" attitude, a trait we once associated only with the pakistanis.

The Pakis learned from the Americans, who learned it from the Brits who had a homo erotic admiration for the fine manly specimens of the Northwest of British India.

But the US has been running a huge scam for too long - claiming that it is the land of the free, and that everyone can live a dream. No. Everyone can't live a dream. Yes many can and do - when they have the appropriate life skills and education. But a whole lot just rot and the US hides, stonewalls or ignores that rot just as well as the Pakis.

Sorry OT

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shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jan 2014 21:36

Beef Consumption in the US directly contributes to the building of multimillion dollar homes and the sales of luxury cars in the USA

Many studies suggest that people who eat the most meat get the most cancer. Now a huge, 20-year study from the American Cancer Society confirms these findings. The bottom line: Those who eat the most red meat -- beef and/or pork and/or processed meat products -- get colon cancer 30% to 40% more often than those who eat these foods only once in a while.

The news is particularly bad for those who favor lots of lunchmeats, hot dogs, and sausages. Eating lots of these processed foods raises colon cancer risk by 50%, reports Marjorie L. McCullough, ScD, senior epidemiologist at the American Cancer Society in Atlanta. McCullough and colleagues report the findings in the Jan. 12 issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association.

"The bottom line is that the people who were eating the most red meat had higher colon cancer risk than those eating the least," McCullough tells WebMD.
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Burger lovers, fasten your seat belts. In the study, high red meat consumption was 3 ounces a day for men and 2 ounces for women. That's right. Barely enough daily hamburger to cover your palm raises cancer risk.

Because if this, healthcare service providers, including endoscope manufacturers, makers of CT scanners, manufacturers of intestinal staplers, antibiotics and anti cancer drugs, not to mention colorectal surgeons are able to laugh all the way to the bank as a result of the ever increasing number of Americans who get more protein in their diet than the average US embassy gardener in India. And the good times are not going to end soon. After all how can anyone advise Americans to stop being red blooded beef eatin' Americans.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 Jan 2014 21:42

Cartoon - what happens depends on who poisons the drinking water:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/2 ... -terrorism
(sorry, couldn't embed cartoon here).
This teaches the world how deals like Bhopal Union Carbide ought to work.
PS: context, chemical leaks contaminated the water for 300,000+ people in West Virginia.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014 ... ks-tomblin

member_28352 · Post by **member_28352** » 27 Jan 2014 21:54

All this leads me to believe that the USA is a huge ponzi scheme. Get new immigrants in to work hard and generate wealth for the previous immigrants. And it works like a multi level marketing scheme too with the guy at the top making a lot of money by essentially doing nothing. Only the US system could have produced a company like Amway.Wah ra chacha kya system banaya.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jan 2014 00:31

Some frequently asked questions (will be edited until the forum software will stop allowing).

1. What is it?

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Bad idea. That's what the Strat-e-jic threads are for.

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Use calamine lotion. Or chamomile tea. I forget which. Either way, it will be good for you.

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I am not itching. They are bored. When you are bored, or want a smile, or a preconception changed, or a reason to be thankful, or want to look at people around you a bit differently, or relieve that sinus congestion that is shrinking the space between the ears -- read. But not with the intent of gaining something from it. Feel free to interpret it positively here. You will get many browny points, your name will be instantly internet famous, it will get thousands of views, pretty soon you will surpass Anmol. But seriously; NO one reads this, people are instantly turned off.

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I am bored and have no life. Most others here are too old and irritated. Get off our lawn!

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Nothing. But if it makes you look outside the window, occasionally smile. Rarely think about something not in print. Love your pet, or feel differently about the trash in the street, then I am less bored. So probably are the other posters. We may even smile.

11. Why these topics now?

Blame it on UlanBatori. He made such a ruckus about nothing. Otherwise, it would have taken all of two or three more days before someone entirely different started the same thing.

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Who knows. BENIS died a bad death every four pages.

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When you have already read more than a page on this post. Absolutely not. Go to the strat-e-jic threads. Much fun there, many high emotions, most enlightenment.

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Are you still just itching, or do you dispassionately feel like exercising your mind and take away some boredom?

15. Should I comment?

See above. See Strat-e-jic forum. Much attention. Many posts. Immediate recognition!

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rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 28 Jan 2014 00:50

Neela wrote:Amreeki ability to put people behind bars is astounding - whopping 716 per 100,000 of population is incarcerated. Speaks about the unforgiving nature of the judiciary & also the people.

May I humbly suggest that you have misintepreted that statistics. America is peaceful and completely crime free because of the existence of strong law and order, within its society. The number would be a lot higher in developing country if not for the fear that a common man has for its police force.

For example, a common man in India, does not expect justice from the police force. This has proven to be a major stumbling block for even reporting major and minor crimes. It is unfortunate that Indians have a sense of fear of their own protectors, even though the policeforce is as malnourished due to lack of protien, as any other Indian.

In America, justice is easily attainable to a common man, as it is for the rich. American law and the implementers of law, doesn't differentiate between the rich and poor, is color blind, humane and just. The 716 per 100K would have been a lot higher if not for the proactive action of police in American society.

Proactive police action in America prevents crime