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Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:38
by Vikas
Either someone really planned it brilliantly or one of the key country involved is making ullo of rest of the world. But my money is on a lost plane and no clarity on what happened.
I still can't figure why Chinese would need to play such elaborate game to blame Uighur Muslims nor Pakis needing to commandeer a Boeing all the way from Malaysia to hit a target in Vizag. Any flight from Chennai or Hyderabad could have been used for the same effect.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:40
by ramana
If its Vizag its either Pakis or Chinese.
If it Chennai, Kalapakkam its someone bigger.

Rajiv Lather See IN has doubled the ships as they realize it. Monitor what Menon is doing. Is he in a literary festival?

Saip, How do we know its not still search and recover operation?


GD, Spider sense gets invoked when:

"if there is even 1% chance of any Pakistan connection then it is terror!" Cheney in 1% Doctrine


For those who phooh, phooh BRF Cassandras!

"Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean there is nobody out to get you!" unknown

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:41
by ramana
Rohitvats isn air defence of naval bases an IN task? What is stationed at INS Dega and INS Rajali?
Helicopters and Tu-124s?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:43
by SwamyG

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:44
by Vayutuvan
A_Gupta wrote:Why would one do the Vampi - Gival instead of going direct from Vampi to Igrex?

If a directed graph with way points as the nodes is constructed, they are following a shortest route on the graph. Probably if one programs a series of way points autopilot selects a shortest path route along the edges of the graph. Also that has the advantage of the aircraft not standing out as a sore thumb if any surface vessels seeing it. Presumably the plane transited land in the dark and might have reached the destination (if that were the intention and the putative hijackers were able to land) just about sun-rise time. If it was a hijack this is very daring and been executed with clockwork precision. Wow, bloody wow if that were to be the case.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:44
by Rajiv Lather
My understanding of the Chinese suggests that if they want to do a Op Searchlight on the Uighurs; they will just go ahead and do it. They do not need to create an event and that too involving loss of 160 Chinese lives. This is even more so, cause the Americans, Europeans and Russians are busy in their own mess.

Why would the Chinese risk worldwide condemnation, they have too much to lose.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:52
by shiv
matrimc wrote:If it was a hijack this is very daring and been executed with clockwork precision. Wow, bloody wow if that were to be the case.

wow bloody wow to Malaysian airline security.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:53
by ramana
SwamyG its massa

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:58
by Singha
Its hard to hijack a plane in India, security is tight.
far easier to adv of a sprawling place like kl and few biraders on inside of apt operator to make the final
move.
could India have taken down the plane?
not in this sector, no fighters, no political clear diktats what to do..both saint and mms would have to be woken up and come to a consensus...too late.

so it must hv crashed on own perhaps the pilot spolied their plan or it went into cheen.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 21:59
by ramana
In 2008, India was presented with the 26/11 terrorist attack. Thsi was before the 2009 elections.
in 2014 India is presented with this missing airliner mystery.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:02
by Singha
We must act with ruthless will to nip any plan in the bud.
tell everyone to piss off and we do our own searching.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:04
by Rajiv Lather
Nicobar earthquake - bomb disposal squad at work ?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:05
by Altair
I think its massa plan to checkmate Putin. The flight path is close to Kwajalein Atoll, US military base which controls GPS SATs and stations most advanced sensor controls to track ballistic missile launches. The island primary purpose was BMD during Reagon star wars program. US was caught pants down in Crimea and massa is executing an old well researched and thoroughly gamed master plan to checkmate Putin. This is just the opening gambit.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:10
by Singha
Well altair, the plan escapes me..care to ct the next 3 moves?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:19
by rohitvats
Theo_Fidel wrote:
Here is Rohit Vats map of the radar coverage again for reference. There is a gap between A & N and East coast.

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that is not a radar coverage map; it shows coverage of stations which recieve the ACARS data from aircraft for SITA company.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:21
by gnair
I have a certain red flag building up in my mind here....from this article:
Regarding the crew concerned -

Zaharie several times said he was “very nice, very friendly and safety-conscious.” She didn’t want to be named because of company policy prohibiting employees from speaking to the media.

Neighbours of both men also praised their commitment to the community. Fariq played futsal, a modified form of soccer popular in Southeast Asia, with neighborhood youngsters and paid for their sports shirts. Zaharie was known for bringing food he cooked himself to community events or making sure his wife and children did when he couldn’t attend. A supporter of Malaysia’s main opposition parties, he had volunteered to be a poll monitor in recent elections.

On the day of the incident, that morning to be precise...the leader of the opposition Anwar Ibrahim was sentenced to 5 years in jail for alleged sodomy or some crap. This has been an on-going episode in Malaysian politics that has lead to a few riots, and there was wide spread talk that it was done to disqualify him from the upcoming elections, that would have made him the CM of the country's biggest state ie. Selangor.
My question is 'would this have been a psychological trigger factor to commit a despicable act ? ' Malaysians in the last few years have become ultra passionate about their opposition, quite like how the Congress is unpopular these days and want somebody else to replace them. But the one diff. being, the opposition has never ruled Malyasia even once since independence, due to political supression.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:22
by UlanBatori
Oops! Natural or jdam-made?

5.5 quake in Andaman Sea. What comes next?
Visions of "Goodbye California".

Speaking of SITA map, this is what UB CTs pointed out yesterdin and todin: Look at the region where an airliner must fly after "last ping" near Andamans, to reach eastern SL. Until it is very close to land in SL, no coverage. BUT.. there IS coverage if it lands in SL, so engine vibration would have been communicated upon touchdown. Oops! There goes that CT.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:26
by Klaus
What does PRC stand to gain by crashing an airliner of a third country (Malaysia) into its rival nation's (India) nuclear facilities, in return for a sacrifice of its 160 odd passengers?

Kalpakkam & Kudankulam are far more likely targets than Vizag, the latter would have been an outright declaration of war.

Was the seafloor event declaration by the Chinese, a tacit admission of some sort?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:30
by Singha
My spider cerebal node says jdam was part of this plan and by grace of lord , India dodged bullet.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:32
by UlanBatori
OK, per SITA map, turn north-northeast beyond west coast of Andamans, and you can fly in a gap in the SITA coverage through northern Myanmar into PRC. JFYI: I don't know what that means. PRC motivation to do any such thing seems extremely far-fetched: I mean the airliner was GOING TO LAND in Beijing in a few hours anyway! Reminds me of the 1970s joke where someone smashed his way into the cockpit of a Miami-New York flight and said: "This flight has been taken over!"
"Yes sir, where do you want to go""
"Fly straight to New York, no tricks or yore dead meat!?"
"But, sir, that's where we were headed anyway!"
"So you say! The last 4 times I tried to go to New York, the flight ended up in Havana".

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:32
by Prem
ramana wrote:Hate to say it but told you so almost on the day I started the thread.

MH-370 was headed to India.
Its Paki gift to new govt.


May be not,Paki and their multiple fathers will act to test Modi once he is Virajman on Dilli Singasan. Last Sunday, i speculated they were heading to Burma, friend of China. Burmese have learned and acted contrary to Banu Quraiza tribe and Malaysians, lately have been going Gung - ho on the Ways of Peaxe. Who knows if the pilots themselves prepared this flight to Highest Heera Mandi by taking out both Uiger Pasand Chinese and their Paki Pasand Burmese. Lest keep in mind, Malaaysians and Paki have been very Lubyy-Dubbie relation.

If this is real, Chinese will get the excuse to show their BigTeeth to tore Malaysia's flesh and do Aaramb ho Parlamb for WW3. Now Big Bomb go off there near A&N and here come a huge Tsunami again.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:33
by saip
Is it possible Indian SAM shot down the unidentified plane and is keeping quiet?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:33
by Klaus
Singha ji, if its the case, then its the 2nd time in recent memory. The first being the bombs going off in NM's Patna rally.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:37
by nachiket
saip wrote:Is it possible Indian SAM shot down the unidentified plane and is keeping quiet?

The harebrained CT's here are now going to the extent of accusing India of shooting it down? :( Please think before posting.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:37
by UlanBatori
Guys, a JDAM has to be loaded on to the aircraft, hain? R u saying flight crew and ground crew and airport gate/fence security were all in JDAM plot? Plus whoever smuggled the JDAM into Malaysia or built it there? (I am not saying no, just asking). Otherwise it had to land somewhere and load the JDAM/ other huge load of explosives. Maybe turn the whole thing into one massive Daisy Cutter/ Fuel-Air Bum? So if it landed, why hasn't it taken off? Damaged? Delayed? Waiting for searches to blow over? Then they should have followed the elementary step of taking, say, ten seat cushions and a few useless other plastic pieces marked "Flight 370, debris onlee, bliss to recover and put on See Enn Enn and Facebook" and dumping them into the sea, say near Car Nicobar. Maybe the fishing boat is on its way to do that as I type.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:40
by fanne
JDAM on Kalkappam or Arihant, it would have been hard to tell, what caused the radiation? In that case, 777 gets vaporized, we may have been looking still near its original site, duly supported by sat pics and floor events.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:43
by Theo_Fidel
Thanx, Rohit, my mistake.

Is there a map of radar coverage somewhere?
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Also A&N has cell coverage. So if it flew over could Celphones have connected?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:44
by SwamyG
ramana wrote:SwamyG its massa

It is massa who gave the leads that led to the search operation in Indian Ocean. Looks like Vietnam is slowly losing interest. Was it WaPo that carried the lead, that now is searching the oceans as close as 260 nautical miles from Chennai?

TOI article... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 024463.cms

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:46
by sattili
shiv wrote:
matrimc wrote:If it was a hijack this is very daring and been executed with clockwork precision. Wow, bloody wow if that were to be the case.

wow bloody wow to Malaysian airline security.

+1

I had first hand experience when I flew Penang-Singapore-Chennai more than a decade ago. Malaysian airport security couldn't spot the swiss knife I forgot in my backpack. Its in Singapore airport that it was identified and promptly removed. IMHO our airport security guys do 10times better job than those guys.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:46
by Singha
Or a timed jdam blast on sea bottom near India is a loud n clear signal that non state actors now have tested devices and the world had better take note..today the sea..tmrw the hated crusaders in London, Rome and nyc.

lets watch how much enthu sher khan shows in Andaman area

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:47
by rsingh
nachiket wrote:
saip wrote:Is it possible Indian SAM shot down the unidentified plane and is keeping quiet?

The harebrained CT's here are now going to the extent of accusing India of shooting it down? :( Please think before posting.


Too often that is the case.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:47
by ramana
Singha wrote:My spider cerebal node says jdam was part of this plan and by grace of lord , India dodged bullet.



Specifically Hanuman after whom the Andaman Sea is named. Eons from now, a new legend will rise of how he rose from he sea like the Mainika parvat and smote the vimana down and saved Rama's land.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:48
by SwamyG
Singha wrote:My spider cerebal node says jdam was part of this plan and by grace of lord , India dodged bullet.

Kindly shed some gyan saar.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:50
by saip
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Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:52
by Theo_Fidel
^^^
Huh! December 7 2013 ???

Its not cyclone season.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:54
by chaanakya
saip wrote:Looks like a cyclone is brewing in Bay of Bengal and become a cyclone by Sunday. Searches will have to be curtailed.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 984688.cms

Did you see the Time Stamp of the story saar?

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:54
by Lalmohan
there were 10 jdams on board, they were wearing tight designer sarong kebayas and saying "so! some more satay for you?" and causing dhamakas in male passenger trouser regions

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:57
by ramana
Any one recall Dileep's first story?
The core idea not the details.

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:59
by UlanBatori
shifted post

Re: Malaysian Arilines Flight MH-370 goes missing

Posted: 14 Mar 2014 22:59
by sattili
UlanBatori wrote:Guys, a JDAM has to be loaded on to the aircraft, hain? R u saying flight crew and ground crew and airport gate/fence security were all in JDAM plot? Plus whoever smuggled the JDAM into Malaysia or built it there? (I am not saying no, just asking). Otherwise it had to land somewhere and load the JDAM/ other huge load of explosives. Maybe turn the whole thing into one massive Daisy Cutter/ Fuel-Air Bum? So if it landed, why hasn't it taken off? Damaged? Delayed? Waiting for searches to blow over? Then they should have followed the elementary step of taking, say, ten seat cushions and a few useless other plastic pieces marked "Flight 370, debris onlee, bliss to recover and put on See Enn Enn and Facebook" and dumping them into the sea, say near Car Nicobar. Maybe the fishing boat is on its way to do that as I type.

UB ji, there is a disused airfield in Mynmar called BAGO. May be pilots turned from IGREX and bagoed to this BAGO to do the stuff that you are saying...

IGREX is the edge of our A&N ADIZ (as per the ATS route PDF posted earlier), it is possible to navigate on the edge of Indian FIRs by carefully plotting the route to those edge waypoints and reach up to Mynmar or BG airspace (Chittagong)...just saying