Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 21 Apr 2014

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 27 May 2014 00:13

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 May 2014 01:23

If this does not drive you to tears, then nothing will. Narendra Modi shares 'emotional' moment with Pak PM Nawaz Sharif

Sharif had watched the visuals of Modi meeting his mother Hiraba on television in which she had offered him sweets.

The Pakistani leader said that while having dinner, his mother saw the visuals on the television which made her emotional.

Sharif then told him that he goes to visit his mother once a week.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 27 May 2014 01:40

He got 30-40 minutes to talk with Modi, and they spent it discussing their mothers.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 27 May 2014 01:46

Nandu wrote:He got 30-40 minutes to talk with Modi, and they spent it discussion their mothers.

nawaz had one father/ min to speak about, wonder how he found time to speak about his mother

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 27 May 2014 05:06

Swearing-in or swearing-at? Mani Shankar Aiyar

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 May 2014 05:26

abhishek_sharma wrote:Swearing-in or swearing-at? Mani Shankar Aiyar

Unmatched coward, unmatched pervert, unmatched arrogant SOB. These blood punks even when not in power seem to have a voice. I mean the b@stard has to be some rat to compare TSP sponsorship of pigLeTs as an instrument of state policy with anything going on in India. And he must be the ultimate moron if he does not know that Indian Mujaheddin is TSP's proxy.

As I said, I am not too happy at ModiJi's invite to the puke. But when looked at from his over arching need to reach out to neighbors, leaving out the puke would have caused more hic-cups. Its just an acknowledgment that India does not have the muscle power to make TSP/US behave, and some other Chankyan strategy is needed. I will cut Modi slack on this, and in due course it will be clear whether his policy is MMS/ABV redux or there is some other innovative strategy.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 27 May 2014 05:36

Nawaz finds it a little difficult to meet with his fourfathers on a weekly basis, as that would require a lot of travel time with PIA.

Anindya · Post by **Anindya** » 27 May 2014 06:44

British jihadists are the most bloodthirsty in Syria says rebel commander as they are blamed for beheadings and crucifixions

abhishek_sharma · Post by **abhishek_sharma** » 27 May 2014 07:59

An old story of new beginnings: Husain Haqqani

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 May 2014 08:16

^^^
Something that everyone knows but nobody is willing to confront. Historically Pakistani prime ministers havent controlled anything. It is pointless talking to them because they are powerless. If they get "concessions" from India, they can go back and tout it as a great accomplishment to their electorate and establishment, but in return they cant do anything. Take recent happenings with Nawaz for example. He cant even go to the bathroom without Pakistan Army's approval and this is after he handpicked a chief of army staff! He is barely holding on to his chair, with the Paki army sponsoring huge rallies with PTI and trying to ban news channels critical of them. Before Nawaz, there was Zardari. About the powerlessness of Zardari, the less said the better. Two of his prime minsters were fired, so were his foreign minister and ambassador to the US. In fact, Kayani openly speculated to a US diplomat that he should probably initiate a coup and save the country!

The government of India might as well make grand gestures to Chacha Cricket (the bearded cricket cheer leader fella) hoping that he will bring about lasting peace. Pakistan prime ministers are no different than chacha cricket. They can wave a flag and yell slogans, they have no control over the players or the game.

Coming to Pakistan army, it is as much a napunsak as the government. They can give weapons to the Jihadis, train them, escort them, provide intelligence inputs to attack India, but they cannot restrain them. The moment they start restraining them is when these fellows turn on the army and make them brown their shalwar. Like what TTP is doing. Let us not forget that the TTP is a by product of the Lal Masjid episode. Another aspect is that Pakistan army chief is a politician and a CEO rolled into one. He cannot function without the support of his crore kammandus all of whom have their own agenda to pursue.

So we have a charade of the Indian government talking to Pakistani prime ministers who cannot do anything but accept "concessions" and their Chief of Army staff cannot do anything except arm and train jihadis. The best outcome we can hope for is they dont initiate wars like Kargil and they do not give too much money and weapons to the likes of LeT.

What India can do is to help herself. We need and nice fence and our own assets inside Pakistan to deter adventurism.

Reports indicate that RAW and IB will reporting directly to Modi instead of the home minister as before. Hopefully we dont have the likes of Shivraj Patil, Shinde or Chidambaram who were most concerned about "Saffron terror" and not factoring in the input of intelligence agencies about Pakistan's mischief.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 10:06

http://news.kuwaittimes.net/nearly-3700 ... emergency/

Pakistan’s seven semi-autonomous tribal areas along the Afghan border are the epicenter of the country’s polio cases and the government has set up checkpoints to ensure anyone leaving the belt is immunized.

A three-day vaccination drive began yesterday in four tribal areas, a senior government official in Peshawar, the region’s main city, told reporters, with more than 620,000 youngsters on course to receive polio drops. But the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, warned that children in three of the four targeted areas “would not be able to receive polio drops because of the militancy and opposition to the immunization”. Violence has badly hampered the campaign to stamp out polio in Pakistan, where militant groups with strongholds in tribal areas, including the Pakistani Taliban, see vaccination campaigns as a cover for espionage. “A total of 369,039 in three districts would not receive polio drops because of the law and order situation,” the official said.

The three districts in question are North Waziristan, South Waziristan and Mohmand, the official said. Part of the fourth district, Khyber, would also be affected.

Pakistan is one of only three countries where the crippling disease remains endemic, and is responsible for 80 percent of polio cases diagnosed around the world this year. Some 56 people including health workers and police officials providing security have been killed in militant attacks on polio vaccination teams in Pakistan since December 2012. There are also long-running rumors about polio drops causing infertility. Two senior health officials confirmed the latest drive and figures and told AFP that WHO and UNICEF was helping and providing logistic support in the polio campaign.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 10:08

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/2 ... den-hunger

Pakistan’s hidden hunger

Meena Gabeena
May 23, 2014
Comment

Pakistan is facing a silent crisis of malnutrition that is amongst the worst in the world and has not improved for decades. According to 2011 National Nutrition Survey, more than 1.5 million children in Pakistan are currently suffering from acute malnutrition, making them susceptible to infectious diseases which may even lead to death. This needs to be urgently addressed in order to safeguard the country’s future development and prosperity. Keeping the fact in mind, that nearly half of Pakistan’s children are chronically malnourished undermining their own mental and physical growth as well as the country’s prospects, the respective provincial governments must urgently recognize and respond to this challenge.
Without this situation changing, Pakistan risks suffering from a ‘demographic nightmare’ of a growing unskilled, economically unproductive population, rather than the ‘demographic dividend’ which has powered its neighbours ‘growing prosperity. The situation of Pakistan is currently worse than that in much of sub-Saharan Africa. This is a life and death crisis for many but also causes impaired development with long-life effects.
According to IPPBNU report, the current malnutrition crisis in Pakistan has been estimated to cost the economy 3% of GDP per year. To put this in perspective, the energy crisis is estimated to cost 2% of GDP. This is due to the estimated impact of malnutrition on learning, earning and health.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 May 2014 10:22

"Less than 1% of Pakistanis reject polio vaccine due to religious reasons" is the new "Less than 10% of Pakistanis vote for religious parties"

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 May 2014 11:03

^^ Given the way most folks had no clue about even what cabinet ministers were alloted till last minute, one can safely assume that the TSP high value sources within Desh will be definitely shrunk to a trickle since new GoI will run a tight ship, esp with regards to govt privy info.

Murugan · Post by **Murugan** » 27 May 2014 11:17

Gaurav Sawant Interviews Hamid Karzai, Blasting Pakisatan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvk1xjW ... e=youtu.be

joygoswami · Post by **joygoswami** » 27 May 2014 11:45

shiv wrote:http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/2 ... den-hunger
Pakistan’s hidden hunger

Meena Gabeena
May 23, 2014
Comment
Pakistan is facing a silent crisis of malnutrition that is amongst the worst in the world and has not improved for decades. According to 2011 National Nutrition Survey, more than 1.5 million children in Pakistan are currently suffering from acute malnutrition,

What happened to grass ?

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 27 May 2014 12:04

Murugan wrote:Gaurav Sawant Interviews Hamid Karzai, Blasting Pakisatan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvk1xjW ... e=youtu.be

Unbelievable. He says "namashkar india" and folds his hands. Why can't our idiot interviewers start off the conversation doing the same thing. We are secular onlee. He's on our soil.

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 May 2014 13:05

While Nawaz Sharif talks peace, Pak Rangers violate LoC truce

JAMMU: Even as Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was being feted and applauded at the Rashtrapati Bhavan forecourt during the swearing-in ceremony of Narendra Modi as Prime Minister, Pakistan Rangers twice violated ceasefire on Monday, firing several sniper shots at Indian posts, with the second violation at around 6.15pm - just when the oath-taking ceremony was on in New Delhi.

Pakistani troops first breached the ceasefire agreement in Nagi Tekri of Krishna Ghati sector of Poonch at around 11.20am. This was followed by intermittent firing that lasted for some 15 minutes. However, when contacted, Army officials remained tightlipped.

Cheers

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 May 2014 13:09

RoyG wrote:
Murugan wrote:Gaurav Sawant Interviews Hamid Karzai, Blasting Pakisatan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvk1xjW ... e=youtu.be
Unbelievable. He says "namashkar india" and folds his hands. Why can't our idiot interviewers start off the conversation doing the same thing. We are secular onlee. He's on our soil.

Not only that. Even after Karzai's 'namashkar', Gaurav Sawant did not reciprocate that. At least, I didn't see that and I am not sure if the camera angle cut it off. I thought he simply nodded his head in return. If so, it must have been even insulting to Karzai. Here is a non-Indian gesturing in the true Indian tradition, and we don't even return/recognize that?

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 May 2014 13:32

NWA militant rival groups’ clash leaves 4 dead

MIRANSHAH: At least four persons were killed and three sustained injuries in a fierce clash between militant groups in Tehsil Shawal of North Waziristan Agency (NWA), Geo News reported Tuesday morning.

Cheers

arminius · Post by **arminius** » 27 May 2014 13:42

LIVE! Hafeez Saeed, Dawood figure in Modi-Nawaz Sharif talks : India talks tough with Pakistan on terror. All security issues including 26/11 mastermind Hafeez Saeed, Dawood Ibrahim, figured in the just-concluded talks. India also brought up the attack on the Indian consulate at Herat.
Afghanistan president Hamid Karzai had said that the Lashkar-e-Toiba was responsible for the attack

khali haath shaam aayi hai, khali laut jayegi.......

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 27 May 2014 14:53

RoyG wrote:
Murugan wrote:Gaurav Sawant Interviews Hamid Karzai, Blasting Pakisatan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyvk1xjW ... e=youtu.be
Unbelievable. He says "namashkar india" and folds his hands. Why can't our idiot interviewers start off the conversation doing the same thing. We are secular onlee. He's on our soil.

Video unavailable in the US. Any other source?

sum · Post by **sum** » 27 May 2014 14:58

^^ On Teetar:

Minhaz Merchant ‏@minhazmerchant 14m

Sharif's return to Pak delayed as Modi's tough talk on terror rattles Pak delegation, plans spin-presser

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 27 May 2014 15:07

Open Mouth ... Eat Crow

arun · Post by **arun** » 27 May 2014 16:06

No talks till Dawood and Hafiz Saeed are handed over, demands BJP

Have Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed been handed over to India by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sometime during the past 9 months as I seem to have missed the event

Or perhaps a covert cross border operation by 56 inch chested Commando's to nab these terrorist ensconced in the Islamic Republic was carried out today

:

Live: Narendra Modi, Nawaz Sharif agree to resume India-Pakistan talks

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 16:33

Pakis to be taught Arabic
http://www.dawn.com/news/1108154/arabicising-pakistan

In an official function held in the ancient city of Taxila, this past Saturday, the Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Sardar Mohammad Yousuf had some important news for the country.

Speaking to the press at Wah Cantonment, the Minister announced that groundwork was complete for the introduction of Arabic as a language in the secondary school curriculum.

The project would begin in the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province, the Minister added, before going to discuss the arrangements that the Government has been making to facilitate the upcoming Hajj pilgrimage.

The project of Arabicising Pakistan, the painstaking wiping away, hammering out breaking off and denunciation of all parts of our past that do not fit into an imagined always Muslim-ness is not a new one.

The reconstruction of old leaders to fit into new guidelines of piety and purity, the banning of customs, the destruction of structures, the dereliction of art are all part of a long list of things to do to accomplish the project of becoming more 'authentically religious'.

Adding Arabic as the fourth language, on top of English, Urdu and a regional language thus fits into the process of purification currently underway.

It would, however, be wrong to pin this latest development simply to the yearning for Arabness that preoccupies so many Pakistanis. Its practical usage, unrelated to religion, is the fact that Pakistan is one of the most prominent suppliers of manual labour to the Arab speaking GCC countries.

According to the International Organisation of Labour, Pakistan is the second among South Asian nations sending migrant workers abroad. Nearly 7 million Pakistanis have left the country in recent years for the purpose of finding a job and 96 per cent of them make their way to the GCC countries, closely followed by Saudi Arabia.

Once in Saudi Arabia or Dubai or Abu Dhabi, theirs is a grim reality. The kifalah system of sponsorship that gets them there insures that they are already deeply in debt before they ever start working.

As has been reported in a recent front page story in the New York Times, the workers usually do menial jobs in construction, garbage disposal, cleaning, ground crews and such. They live in labour camps in deplorable conditions, sometimes 10 or 15 in a single room, with any clothes they may wear and any food they may eat crammed in between the bunks.

Often, employers refuse to pay them, or pay them months after they are due. The recruiters to whom they owe money take anything they get, before any money can be sent home. If they complain too much, there is always the prospect of arrest. They receive no legal advice, no lawyers and no leniency. Punishments are the only certainty.

Given these conditions, a few ideas emerge regarding what sort of Arabic must be taught to Pakistani students, who if they are lucky, can join the ranks of others in Gulf countries where glorious things called jobs still exist.

Given the large numbers doing ground keeping work or trash collection, perhaps a rudimentary vocabulary in communicating things like, “May I empty this trash can” or “ I have polished this floor” could add to their skills.

Even more crucially, the Arabic that is planned must include at least a few lessons on how to reclaim owed wages and scold unscrupulous employers. A Pakistani construction worker, that can, in Arabic ask why three months of wages have not been paid, and why his passport is being withheld, is far more powerful, than a Pakistani that is mute, silent and accepting of all the abuses that are mercilessly heaped on him by his Arabic speaking masters.

Finally, some Arabic stipulations for emergency situations, such as the one I recounted in this blog a few months ago, when a young man from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was found dead in Makkah; in situations such as that one, it would have been useful if the Pakistanis working with him had been able to ask, “who killed my friend” and “where can I find his body”.

In the particular case, Saudi officials insisted that the young man had simply committed suicide. That it is said, is the usual excuse given to the deaths of poor Pakistani labourers, so that restitution payments are not owed to their families.

In the proposed new Arabic curriculum, it would be useful to teach the parents of such would be labourers to say, “My son did not commit suicide” or to be able to articulate in Arabic the following simple request:

“I want justice for my son, who was Pakistani”.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 16:37

Malnutrition in Pakistan
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/2 ... den-hunger

Pakistan is facing a silent crisis of malnutrition that is amongst the worst in the world and has not improved for decades. According to 2011 National Nutrition Survey, more than 1.5 million children in Pakistan are currently suffering from acute malnutrition, making them susceptible to infectious diseases which may even lead to death. This needs to be urgently addressed in order to safeguard the country’s future development and prosperity. Keeping the fact in mind, that nearly half of Pakistan’s children are chronically malnourished undermining their own mental and physical growth as well as the country’s prospects, the respective provincial governments must urgently recognize and respond to this challenge.
Without this situation changing, Pakistan risks suffering from a ‘demographic nightmare’ of a growing unskilled, economically unproductive population, rather than the ‘demographic dividend’ which has powered its neighbours ‘growing prosperity. The situation of Pakistan is currently worse than that in much of sub-Saharan Africa.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 16:43

http://ipl.edu.pk/document/Pakistan_Army.pdf

Pakistan Army's one-day spending of Rs. 1.35 billion is equivalent to Pakistan's one-year Education budget

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan spends Rs 1.35 billion per day over the three armed forces just under the head of salaries and operating expenses only , Rs8.60 million daily on the president and prime minister, Rs7.8 million per day on the senate and National Assembly but a paltry amount of three lakh rupees per day to take care of human rights,show the budget documents.

It further discloses that the Army’s one-day spending is equivalent to the running year’s total allocation for education
ministry, and the air-force’s per day expenditures far exceed what was allocated to the health ministry for running the
financial year ending this month.

In the new financial year, as many as Rs495.215 billion has been allocated for the armed services only and the amount to be spent on the purchase and maintenance of military hard ware is apart from thist. Going by the above cited figure means that Rs1.35 billion is spent on the three armed services each day.

A further break-up indicates that Rs640.37 million will be utilized by the Army per day; a sum equivalent to the running year’s budgetary allocation for the ministry of education.. Although the ministry has been devolved now with no new allocation made under its head, last year’s budget for the ministry was Rs640 million which means Rs1.7 million a day. The allocated amount for the entire year for the education ministry last year, Rs640 million, is spent in a day by the Army for meeting its salaries and operating expenses only.

Likewise, the health ministry’s running year’s budget was less than the one-day spending of the air force.
The ministry that has also been devolved now got budgetary allocation of Rs269 million for 2010-2011 whereas the air force’s per day spending is Rs290.86 million. Pakistan Navy’s spending per day is Rs141.80 million.

kish · Post by **kish** » 27 May 2014 18:12

The purification process in the "Land of ImPure" is continuing unabated, kufrs like shias & ahmedis are often the target.

Kufr shia pakisatanis are in a dilemma whether to praise or curse Jinnah (a shia himselves) because he got them a ~~god forsaken~~ Arrah pasand country called pakisatan

[url=httpxxx://www.dawn.com/in-depth/hazards-of-identity/]Hazards of Identity[/url]

The rest of the article is a testimony to the fact how "peaceful" the religion Malsi is!!

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 27 May 2014 18:41

Nandu wrote:He got 30-40 minutes to talk with Modi, and they spent it discussing their mothers.

Modi has multiple mothers - the one who brought him up, Bharat Mata, and the BJP.

arijitkm · Post by **arijitkm** » 27 May 2014 18:58

WOW! what a satirical peace !

Hum angrejo ke jamane ke pehle sehi ba$..rd hai. ... ... hum kabhi nehi sudhrenge !

Pakistan loves Modi

The remarkable success of right-wing Indian leader Narendra Modi’s emotionally-charged and overtly-religious election campaign has delighted the common people and the military establishment of Pakistan. After years of tensions between the nuclear-armed South Asian archrivals, Islamabad and New Delhi have something to agree on. Politicians, strategists, clerics, journalists and civil society representatives in Pakistan are celebrating the victory of the ultraconservatives in India, and see it as a rare positive development in otherwise worrying conditions.
Religious parties in Pakistan are especially ecstatic. “We are glad there is someone at the helm in India who understands that stoking hatred and fear with fiery speeches and vowing to destroy the enemy while brandishing weapons, and burning flags, effigies and occasionally the homes and shops of religious minorities, is the right approach to dealing with this issue,” a cleric from Lahore said during a press conference last week.
He brushed aside fears that Modi’s meeting with his Pakistani counterpart a day after he was sworn in might lead to a resumption of dialogue, which in a worst-case scenario could resolve some problems between the two neighbors. “I agree with my Indian brothers and sisters on that,” he said to a question. “It will have no impact. And even if it does, I assure my Indian friends that we stand united with them to ensure there will no lasting peace.”
“Peace is a Western agenda being imposed on us,” said a university professor with an interest in post-colonial theory and a keen eye on politics in the subcontinent. “We were always united like this before the Europeans colonized us. We were one great culturally-diverse nation that was dealing with religious, linguistic and cultural differences by dividing ourselves into a number of kingdoms and princely states, using our rich resources to resolve mutual issues by fighting and massacring each other as appropriate. This new political development gives us a rare opportunity to go back to our golden past.”
For decades, the West has been trying to force their idea of peace on us, trying to stop us from our real goal,” a defense analyst explained, “which is, fighting India.” He said war was better than peace because in peace nobody could win. “If we had to live in peace with India, what was the whole point of making this new country? We can’t be a great nation if we do not win, and we cannot win if there is no war.”
But a retired military official and geostrategic analyst said peace had a number of economic benefits for Pakistan. The money spent on an arms race in India, he said, could be diverted to the more noble cause of funding militant groups in Afghanistan, China and central Asia. “If you calculate all the money our country spends on its missile program, its nuclear program, and keeping such a large army, it is huge! Billions of dollars! Why do we need such a large standing army? We can divert some of that money for the welfare the various militant groups that could fight for us in central Asia and Afghanistan, even perhaps in Kashmir eventually. The economic benefits are huge! We can have larger military impact with the same amount of spending.”
And the number of victims of peace in Pakistan is growing. “They keep talking about the benefits of peace, but the media never pays any attention to us who are being made to pay for that peace,” said a woman from south Punjab, whose brother was laid off from a militant group after they were declined funding for new projects in the north. “He is educated, can make small bombs, and has his own weapons, but in this economy, even that doesn’t get you a job.”
Sources in the government say there is hope for this household and many others like it. “Nawaz Sharif wants peace,” an insider said, adding that some of his aides had been pushing him to try to resume peace talks with Delhi. “But you cannot have peace talks until there is a threat of war. And there is no threat of war until there is another terrorist attack in India.”

muraliravi · Post by **muraliravi** » 27 May 2014 19:45

SSridhar wrote: Not only that. Even after Karzai's 'namashkar', Gaurav Sawant did not reciprocate that. At least, I didn't see that and I am not sure if the camera angle cut it off. I thought he simply nodded his head in return. If so, it must have been even insulting to Karzai. Here is a non-Indian gesturing in the true Indian tradition, and we don't even return/recognize that?

Even worse, Gaurav Sawant is one of the few right wing leaning journalists, so if he is like this, you can imagine the rest

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 May 2014 19:55

arun wrote:No talks till Dawood and Hafiz Saeed are handed over, demands BJP

Have Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed been handed over to India by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sometime during the past 9 months as I seem to have missed the event Or perhaps a covert cross border operation by 56 inch chested Commando's to nab these terrorist ensconced in the Islamic Republic was carried out today :

Live: Narendra Modi, Nawaz Sharif agree to resume India-Pakistan talks

arun Ji :

The Second "Declaration" contradicts the First "Conditions".

We are like this "onlee".

Cheers

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 May 2014 20:29

Peregrine wrote:
arun wrote:No talks till Dawood and Hafiz Saeed are handed over, demands BJP

Have Dawood Ibrahim and Hafiz Saeed been handed over to India by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan sometime during the past 9 months as I seem to have missed the event Or perhaps a covert cross border operation by 56 inch chested Commando's to nab these terrorist ensconced in the Islamic Republic was carried out today :

Live: Narendra Modi, Nawaz Sharif agree to resume India-Pakistan talks
arun Ji :

The Second "Declaration" contradicts the First "Conditions".

We are like this "onlee".

Cheers

Post meeting diplomatic statements are always sanitized to say some things only and hide what happened.

Same Nawaz Sharif with Bill Clinton in 1999:
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/day- ... as-averted

After several long meetings in Sandy Berger’s office, we decided to recommend that Clinton confront Sharif with a stark choice that included neither of his preferred options. We would put before him two press statements and let Sharif decide which would be released at the end of the Blair House talks. The first would hail him as a peacemaker for retreating—or, as we would put it euphemistically, “restoring and respecting the sanctity of the Line of Control.” The second would blame him for starting the crisis and for the escalation sure to follow his failed mission to Washington.

<snipsnip>

Now that he had made maximum use of the “bad statement” we had prepared in advance, Clinton said, it was time to deploy the good one. ..Clinton took a cat nap on a sofa in a small study off the main entryway while Bruce, Sandy, Rick, and I cobbled together a new version of the “good statement,” incorporating some of the Pakistani language from the paper that Sharif had claimed was in play between him and Vajpayee. But the key sentence in the new document was ours, not his, and it would nail the one thing we had to get out of the talks: “The prime minister has agreed to take concrete and immediate steps for the restoration of the Line of Control.” The paper called for a cease-fire but only after the Pakistanis were back on their side of the line. It reaffirmed Clinton’s longstanding plan to visit South Asia.

Harish · Post by **Harish** » 27 May 2014 21:26

arijitkm wrote:WOW! what a satirical peace !

Hum angrejo ke jamane ke pehle sehi ba$..rd hai. ... ... hum kabhi nehi sudhrenge !

Pakistan loves Modi
<snip>

Another cheap Paki equal=equal propagandu trash masquerading as satire.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 27 May 2014 21:51

jash_p wrote:Ganja is coming with only one agenda, to plead Modi to start cricket !!

looks like he also makes a cut of the betting profits.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 May 2014 22:33

Malsi Is Haere

Woman stoned to death outside Lahore High Court

LAHORE: A 25-year-old woman was stoned to death by her family outside the Lahore High Court on Tuesday in a so-called “honour” killing for marrying the man she loved, police said.Farzana Iqbal was waiting for the High Court in Lahore to open when a group of around dozen men began attacking her with bricks, said Umer Cheema, a senior police officer.Her father, two brothers and former fiance were among the attackers, he said. Iqbal suffered severe head injuries and was pronounced dead in hospital, police said.All the suspects except her father escaped. He admitted killing his daughter, Cheema said, and explained it was a matter of honour.Cheema said Farzana had been engaged to her cousin but married another man. Her family registered a kidnapping case against him but Farzana had come to court to argue that she had married of her own free will, he said.Arranged marriages are the norm among conservative Pakistanis, who view marriage for love as a transgression.Around 1,000 Pakistani women are killed every year by their families in honour killings, according to Pakistani rights group the Aurat Foundation.The true figure is probably many times higher since the Aurat Foundation only compiles figures from newspaper reports. The government does not compile national statistics.Campaigners say few cases come to court, and those that do can take years to be heard. No one tracks how many cases are successfully prosecuted.Even those that do result in a conviction may end with the killers walking free. Pakistani law allows a victim's family to forgive their killer.But in honour killings, most of the time the women’s killers are her family, said Wasim Wagha of the Aurat Foundation. The law allows them to nominate someone to carry out the murder, then forgive him.“This is a huge flaw in the law,” he said. “We are really struggling on this issue.”

vishvak · Post by **vishvak** » 27 May 2014 22:53

^ Shows state of society when words like honour, norm among conservative society, marriage, free will are thrown around when marrying cousins. Notice how among the stone throwing crowd were her father, two brothers and former fiance ie her despo cousin brother she was 'engaged' to. BAHUT PIOUS!

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 27 May 2014 22:58

Posting in Full

India’s Modi accepts invitation to visit Pakistan

NEW DELHI: India’s new Prime Minister Narendra Modi has accepted an invitation by Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to visit Pakistan, Indian Foreign Secretary Sujatha Singh told reporters in New Delhi on Tuesday.

“All SAARC leaders invited the [Indian] PM to visit. He accepted. The dates have to be worked out,” Indian media quoted Singh as saying.

Sharif is in India on a two-day visit to attend the inauguration ceremony of India's new prime minister, Narendra Modi, with whom he had a “warm and cordial” bilateral meeting, he said.

“We agreed that our meeting in New Delhi should be a historic opportunity for both our countries,” he told reporters.

“This provides us the opportunity of meeting the hopes and aspirations of our peoples that we will succeed in turning a new page in our relations.”

He said that both men shared a common goal of economic development which could not be achieved without “peace and stability in the region.”

Sharif said that top diplomats from both countries would meet soon to advance peace talks that have moved fitfully because of political tensions between the neighbours.

“We also agreed that the two foreign secretaries would be meeting soon to review and carry forward our bilateral agenda in the spirit of our meeting today.”

India said earlier that Modi had conveyed during the meeting his concerns about militants allegedly using Pakistani soil to carry out acts of terrorism in India. Sharif told reporters that accusations and counter-accusations did not help matters.

The meeting, which was scheduled for 35 minutes but stretched on for 50 minutes, concluded with hopes that it would restart the stalled peace process.

Earlier, the Indian foreign secretary said in a press statement that Modi also “underlined our concerns related to terrorism.”

“We want peaceful and friendly relations with Pakistan, however for such relations to proceed, it is important that terror and violence is brought to an end,” Singh said.

She added that Modi conveyed that Islamabad needed to “abide by its commitment to prevent its territory and territory it controls being used to stage terror attacks on India”.

According to the Indian foreign secretary, Modi also underlined his desire to improve commercial ties between the countries, a focus of efforts under the previous government.

“There was discussion on trade and we noted that we were fully ready to fully normalise trade and economic relations. Both prime ministers expressed their interest in having this done as early as possible,” Singh said.

Modi's meeting with Sharif and other South Asian leaders invited to his inauguration was a first test on foreign policy for the 63-year-old, who has no prior diplomatic experience.

Earlier, Sharif also separately met with the former Indian prime minister Attal Bihari Vajpayee.

He will be meeting the Indian president later in the day before he heads back home.

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saip · Post by **saip** » 27 May 2014 23:13

Was there an incident between Hindus and Muslims in Gujarat during the last few days or is this a fake news?

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