IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Agnimitra » 14 Jun 2014 14:19

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Gurulog. For past few days, in TV discussions, Greenpeace rep, other NGOs supports and now even Barkha is parroting same line, i.e. when we have foreign, why not foreign sponsored NGOs. What is best way to counter to such arguments (from one to broad descriptive).

1. As Lilo ji said, there is little oversight and accountability for NGO's, unlike private sector.

2. Public Policy programs in the West have studied subversive potential of NGO's for long now. Also the relative effectiveness or ineffectiveness of QUANGOs, etc.

3. Most of these subversive or simply wrong-headed NGOs do not work WITH government programs or within a broad-based social coalition. They often work at cross-purposes, or even in competition with existing government programs to provide the same benefit. Why? They undermine govt programs by a constant stream of propaganda to reduce people's confidence in participatory governance.

4. The most effective and beneficial NGO's work under an overarching government policy framework, and build on existing social and cultural capital. They also work in league with the established private sector.

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Postby UlanBatori » 14 Jun 2014 15:31

What I would respond (too long for Teetar, sorry)

Ms. Du(h)tt may be too busy and important to have noticed that FDI stands for
Foreign Direct Investment
in India's economy.

NOT
Foreign Destabilization and Invasion


The issue here is not "Foreign MONEY" but the blatant misuse of this money to override the actions of the democratically elected government, cause riots, influence elections, buy voters, destroy progress and obstruct development of the economy.

I wonder if this concerns Ms. Du(h)tt, and whether someone could explain it to her. Given Ms.Du(h)tt's history of giving away Classified information on our soldiers' locations in an area being shelled by the enemy (I mean of India, not of Ms. Du(h)tt) I wonder if it concerns her at all.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby chanakyaa » 14 Jun 2014 17:44

kmkraoind wrote:Image

Gurulog. For past few days, in TV discussions, Greenpeace rep, other NGOs supports and now even Barkha is parroting same line, i.e. when we have foreign FDIs, why not foreign sponsored NGOs. What is best way to counter to such arguments (from one to broad descriptive).

There is a major difference between foreign sponsored Investment in industry and NGO. Industries brings know-how, technology and creates products that we use in our daily lives, without any AGENDA. NGO on other hand does not produce anything except act on a AGENDA, often a dangerous one by hiding behind sneaky social cause at the expense of national/economic security.

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Postby Arihant » 14 Jun 2014 19:06

kmkraoind wrote:Image

Gurulog. For past few days, in TV discussions, Greenpeace rep, other NGOs supports and now even Barkha is parroting same line, i.e. when we have foreign FDIs, why not foreign sponsored NGOs. What is best way to counter to such arguments (from one to broad descriptive).


Conflating foreign-funded NGOs with FDI is not indicative of great intelligence, to put it mildly (and an insult to the intelligence of their audience). They must be clutching at straws if this is the best they can offer.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby ramana » 14 Jun 2014 19:08

Plot the end of Cold War on that graph to see where all those folks went to?

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby ramana » 14 Jun 2014 19:10

Lets now compile NGOs involved in religious conversions. Not only economic de-stabilization of India.

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Postby KrishnaK » 14 Jun 2014 22:00

No Proof Required: In defence of Greenpeace From a very vocal supporter of the gujarat model of development. All this NGOs taking indian growth down by 2-3% is bogus. Entertaining nevertheless.

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It seems that NGOs are the new foreign arm of the bhestern forces all over the world and everyone is preparing to counter this menace.

Putin says West may use NGOs to stir unrest in Russia(Reuters) - President Vladimir

Putin told his security chiefs on Monday to ensure Russia does not follow what he said was Ukraine's example by letting the West use local civil rights groups to foment unrest.

In a speech to the Federal Security Service (FSB), the KGB's main successor, the former spy called for more vigilance and better counter-intelligence to fight threats ranging from Islamist militants to computer hackers.

But he signalled particularly deep mistrust of the West following protests that toppled Ukraine's Moscow-backed leader in February during the worst crisis in East-West relations since the Cold War ended in 1991.

Accusing the West of funding radical groups in Ukraine that helped to topple President Viktor Yanukovich, he expressed concern that Russia also faced a threat from non-governmental organisations (NGOs) "serving foreign national interests".

"Russia's laws today give us the conditions we need for non-governmental and public organisations to work freely and transparently. But we will never accept their being used for destructive purposes," he said.

"We will not accept a situation like what happened in Ukraine, when in many cases it was through non-governmental organisations that the nationalist and neo-Nazi groups and militants, who became the shock troops in the anti-constitutional coup d'état, received funding from abroad."

Western leaders have dismissed such criticism, mainly aimed at the United States and the European Union, and blame Putin for causing the crisis in East-West relations by annexing the Crimea region from Ukraine on March 21.

NGOs UNDER PRESSURE

The West says Putin has already clamped down on NGOs to try to silence dissent, a charge the Kremlin denies.

Soon after returning to the presidency in 2012, Putin approved a law tightening controls on NGOs funded from abroad, forcing any organisation that engages in "political activity" to register as a "foreign agent", a derogatory term harking back to the Cold War.

It was not immediately clear whether his comments on Monday meant such groups would face new pressure, or whether other civil rights and lobby groups will now face harsh treatment from the FSB.

Putin, who ran the FSB in the late 1990s and served as a KGB agent in East Germany, said 46 employees of foreign secret services had been uncovered by the FSB in Russia last year. That was an increase of almost one-third on 2012.

The speech continued the conservative tone of Putin's statements since the crisis began over Crimea but he made few specific references to events on the Black Sea peninsula apart from underlining the need for the FSB to operate there.

He also made no reference to accusations by the West that he was behind separatist protests in eastern Ukraine on Monday.

As well as stressing the threat from militants waging an insurgency for an Islamist state in Russia's mainly Muslim North Caucasus, Putin urged the FSB to develop Russia's border infrastructure in the Arctic, but gave no details.

He also called for the FSB to step up operations on the southern border as U.S. and other troops leave Afghanistan, and said allies in Central Asia may need help to prevent destabilisation in the region.

(Reporting by Timothy Heritage; Editing by Kevin Liffey)

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NGOs seem to have played a major role in Egypt spring as well. It seems these NGOs played a major role in the overthrow of Hosni Mubarak of Egypt. Later Morsi, who came to power, tried to reign in the NGOs after he saw how they overthrew Mubarak:


(Reuters) - Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi submitted to parliament on Wednesday a controversial bill regulating NGOs and human rights groups but said it did not impose restrictions on their activities.


Egypt's president sends controversial NGO law to parliament


So, Morsi tried to reign in these NGOs. But, soon he too was he was overthrown and these NGOs seem to have played a major role in that overthrow as well. The same was repeated in Ukraine.

wiki wrote:On 30 June 2013, millions of people rallied across Egypt calling for President Morsi's resignation from office.[147] Concurrently with these anti-Morsi demonstrations, his supporters held a sit-in in Rabaa Al-Adawiya square.[148]

On 1 July, the Egyptian Armed Forces issued a 48-hour ultimatum which gave the country's political parties until 3 July to meet the demands of the Egyptian people. The Egyptian military also threatened to intervene if the dispute was not resolved by then.[149] Four Ministers also resigned on the same day, including tourism minister Hisham Zazou, communication and IT minister Atef Helmi, state minister for legal and parliamentary affairs Hatem Bagato and state minister for environmental affairs Khaled Abdel Aal,[150] leaving the government with members of the Muslim Brotherhood only.

On 2 July, President Morsi publicly rejected the Egyptian Army's 48-hour ultimatum and vowed to pursue his own plans for national reconciliation and resolving the political crisis.[151]

In mid-November Morsi claimed that he was kidnapped and held in a Republican Guard house on 2 July. He claimed to be kept there until 5 July and forcibly moved again to a naval base where he spent the next four months.[152][153][154] The spokesperson of the Egyptian Armed Forces, Colonel Ahmed Ali later denied the rumors saying that Morsi is badly treated saying that they have nothing to hide.[155] The Egyptian Army later gave Catherine Ashton the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy for the European Union the permission to meet Morsi. Ashton later stated that Morsi is doing well, saying "Morsi was keeping up with the latest developments in the country through television and newspapers. So we were able to talk about the situation, and we were able to talk about the need to move forward. The people around him do care for him. I looked at the facilities."[156][157][158] Morsi could later meet an African Union delegation too.[155]

On 3 July at 21:00 (GMT+2), Abdul Fatah al-Sisi announced a road map for the future, stating that Morsi was removed and that Adly Mansour, the head of the Constitutional Court, had been appointed the Interim President of Egypt.


And all these NGOs from various countries seem to have a network and collaboration.

Strategic planning meeting of the Global G8/G20 NGOs working group concluded in Mexico City

Strategic planning meeting of the Global G8/G20 NGOs working group concluded in Mexico City last Friday.

Here are some of the headlines:

59 representatives from 51 organisations participated in the meeting
Civil society from the following 13 countries attended: Brazil, USA, Canada, India, UK, Indonesia, Russia, South Korea, Mexico, Peru, Germany, Chile and Vietnam
In working groups, the meeting agreed key messages for the G20 on: food security, development, growth and inequality and transparency and anti-corruption
The meeting also proposed principles that should guide G20 consultation with civil society
The meeting also developed key messages for the G8 on: food security and health issues
High-level dialogue with the Mexican Government attended by the Mexican Minister for Foreign Affairs, the Mexican G20 sherpa and a team of 15+ officials from various Mexican government departments working on the G20. Delivered statements on four policy areas (food security, development, growth and inequality and transparency and anti-corruption) as well as a dialogue on: Mexican-Russia (Troika) engagement; participation of development countries in G20 processes, especially African countries; CSO consultation with particular reference to the G20 development working group; and G20 transparency
Presentations from Russia, Brazilian, South Korean, Indian and Indonesian civil society on their country contexts and G20 work
Press conference: ahead of the finance ministers meeting, key CSO messages on food security, transparency and financial inclusion highlighted. High level of Mexican media attendance and good media coverage linked to the finance meeting
US NGOs and UK NGOs met with their respective embassy based in Mexico city

Governance and structure of the global G8/G20 NGOs working group:

Joanna Rea, International Advocacy Director, Bond, UK, Chair, Global G8/G20 Working Groupand John Ruthrauff, Director, International Advocacy USA, Co-chair, Global G8/G20 Working Group left their positions.
The meeting established an 8 member steering committee. The co-chairs will be selected from this group of 8. It was agreed that the group would include the following representatives:
INFID, the national NGO platform of Indonesia
Oxfam India
Feminist Task Force
South Korea
Latindadd
Alena Peryshkina, The Russian G8/G20 NGOs Working Group
A representative from Europe
A representative from Africa

The meeting agreed to established a sub-group on strategy and fundraising. Founding members of this sub-group are:

Harsh Jaitli (VANI, India)
Alena Peryshkina (G8/G20 NGOs working group, Russia)
Nancy Alexander (Boell Foundation, USA)
Save the Children (rep to be agreed)
A representative from Africa

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The gameplan seems to be to first collect some people on one or the other pretext. These people protest against the Govt on some cause. They choose a cause which might be supported by many people. For example: In dhesh, it could be protest against rapes. Most people will agree that rapes must stop. So, there would be initial support for such protests. Then, that would be used for next steps.

These 'protestors' would be provided all sorts of support from their masters in bhest. This was most directly seen Ukraine case.

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All items of food and comfort were allowed unhindered access to the dharna site. It was a satyagrah with quilts, mattresses and pillows. It was a satyagrah where the leader was allowed to bring his car and function from there. It was a satyagrah where the leader as a Chief Minister was perusing and disposing files in the comfort of his car. It was a satyagrah which in its wake left behind empty bottles of liquor. It was a satyagrah where media personnel were threatened and intimidated.

The facilitation angle by the government and foreign powers is quite evident. Looking in retrospect, it emerges that there was a desperation to meet a dictated deadline, against which Kejriwal was working. Within that deadline, it is now apparent, that he had to be mutated from a reluctant Chief Minister, to a national leader, to sacrificer and finally as counterpoise to Narendra Modi. This mutation could not have happened in Jantar-Mantar, as there would have been little media traction. The desired level of traction was only possible if Kejriwal was allowed to attack symbols of India’s sovereignty, the Republic Day Parade being the most profitable.

This script by a very small core group of the ruling dispensation is targeted at marginalization and destruction of most of the old members. To maintain credibility, the script also necessitates calibrated assault on its own top functionaries, not to include the main architects. Guess who? If one were to delve deep into Kejriwal’s and Yogendra Yadav’s association with the key-group and members of ‘National Advisory Council’, it is not very difficult to unravel this script from the time Kejriwal was made to infiltrate Ramdev’s camp.

Politics notwithstanding, the worrying part is that the impetus behind Kejriwal is not only the political segments in the country. He is a sort of trained agitational mercenary being used as a political front by vested interests within the country and outside. It is these forces that have made him travel this distance from Magsaysay Award. In this journey he has fine-tuned himself in the art of ‘destabilization’. Assisting him in this bid has been one Shrimit Lee, allegedly a CIA agent, who is Kejriwal’s mentor and associate in destabilization games, the kind one witnessed in various parts of the world including Egypt and now Ukraine. Shrimit Lee, an American national, an associate of Kejriwal in his Kabir Foundation, traveled from India to Egypt to bring back Arab Revolution technology. It is for this reason, Anna’s agitation, purely masterminded by Kejriwal and his associate, had vulgar resemblance with the agitation at Tahrir Square in December 2010.

Indians need to ponder about the consequences, if at the call of Kejriwal, lacs of people had made a concourse for the dharna site at Rail Bhavan during the period of Republic Day Parade and celebrations. They would have then taken over India’s nerve center, i.e. the North Block, South Block, Rastrapati Bhavan and the Parliament.

India was saved of the consequences by the President, who reportedly conveyed a strong warning. But in Ukraine only a month later, in somewhat a similar situation, the President of that country, Viktor Yanukovych, was not so lucky. His official residence was taken over by the mob and vandalized. He was forced to leave the country.

India does not deserve to be Ukraine and no patriotic Indian deserves to suffer Kejriwal.

(RSN Singh is a former military intelligence officer who later served in the Research & Analysis Wing. The author of two books: Asian Strategic and Military Perspective and Military Factor in Pakistan, he is also a Guest Blogger with Canary Trap. The opinions expressed by the author and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not reflect the opinions of Canary Trap or any employee thereof)

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6. Is it true that the World Bank featured the insignificant work of Parivartan in their Report ,”Social Accountability Stocktaking Exercise for South and East Asia. Washington, DC: World Bank Institute. (2005)(pp.30-32)
http://www.worldbank.org/socialaccounta ... s%20on%20s
7. Is it true that you were selected for the Magsaysay Award only after featuring in this World Bank report ?Is it also true that Narayan Murthy, the INFOSYS Chief is a Trustee of Ford Foundation and pushed for your award?
8. Is it true that in your biography as prepared by the Ramon Magsaysay Foundation, the first reference has been made to the CIA(Central intelligence of America)?Is it a mere coincidence or Freudian slippage that reveals the true character?
9. Is it true that a New York University researcher Shimrit Lee worked with your organization, Kabeer in 2009-10 and advised you for launching a Colour Revolution kind of political mobilization in India? Is it true that subsequently she went to Egypt and witnessed the Tahrir uprising?Is it also true that she advised in 2010 for public protest in India and creation of mohalla and gram sabhas? Did you seek clearance from Home Ministry for hosting a suspicious researcher who has been active in the Middle east, Chad in Africa, required as per law of the land?

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What’s the connection between Aadhar and the Ford Foundation?

February 8, 2014 by Atanu Dey | 29 Comments

Every day in every which way, Kejriwal figures out a new drama to be in the media spotlight. It seems to me that he is not acting alone — and by that I don’t mean that he does not have a bunch of very able sidekicks. He certainly has visible support. What concerns me is the invisible support. Are invisible hands guiding him? Here’s what I got in a forwarded email. I cannot vouch for its content. You be the judge. I am just posting it for the record. The original was in Hindi and I asked a friend (Thanks, Amit) to translate it into English.

Sub: 10lakh people called from America for Kejriwal, what was the contribution of Aadhar card in this and how did the data reach America? Is Aadhar card an American conspiracy?
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Another explosive post that bares open the mystery behind Kejriwal . . . Friends, please read it, share it or copy paste it but do publicize this important information . . . A deep conspiracy is being hatched to enslave this country . . . Is America seeing Arvind Kejriwal as a useful tool, just like it saw Imran Khan in Pakistan?

To understand this, one has to look at Arvind’s background. Not just Kabir, Shimrit Li and Ford foundation but even some Indian industrialists are also involved in this effort. Gradually one thing is leading to another and the picture is evolving. Suddenly there is talk of looking at the political activities of Ford foundation in not just India but whole of Asia. It is identified as an American entity.

Kavita N Ramdas is the head of Ford foundation in South Asia. She is the eldest daughter of Admiral Ramdas. Admiral Ramdas is Arvind Kejriwal’s godfather. Admiral Ramdas was with Arvind Kejriwal even at the time of his nomination. Admiral Ramdas’ wife Leela Ramdas was made the chief of committee constituted under the Vishakha guideline. Ramdas is also a recipient of Magsaysay Award. The question therefore arises – is the Ramdas family helping Arvind Kejriwal on the instructions of Ford foundation?

Ford’s involvement in the politics of Asia can also be understood by this another example. Gauhar Rizvi, an ex office bearer of Ford foundation, now works as advisor to the Bangladeshi Prime Minister. Not just Kabir, Shimrit Li and Ford foundation but even some Indian industrialists are also involved in this effort.

Mr Narayan Murthy, Infosys Chief and member of Ford foundation, had also provided financial assistance of INR 25lac each year in 2008-2009 to Arvind Kejriwal’s organization. In 2010 when Shimrit joined Kabir, Narayan Murthy increased the assistance to 37lakh from 25lakh earlier. Not just this, Balkrishna a former senior employee of Infosys too joined the Aam Admi Party.

Nandan Nilekani is also linked with Infosys. Nilekani is also the chief of ‘biometric aadhar’ project. As soon as Kejriwal formed government in Delhi, he initiated steps to make Aadhar mandatory. One can understand Aadhar and Nandan as follows. As per information, a NewYork based company MongoDB gets associated with Nandan Nilekani’s Aadhar. This company is assigned the job of preparing the database of Indian citizens. On further enquiry on MongoDB, many startling revelations come forth.

A company called In-Q-Tel is invested in MongoDB. In-Q-Tel is the venture capital arm of CIA. Now it is important to see the link between Nandan Nilekani and Delhi elections. During Delhi elections, there were about 1Mn phone calls from America to India. It is said that they were all in support of Aam Admi party. But this raises several questions.

First question, were these phone calls made by India citizens overseas or an American agency? Second question, how did people in America get access to so many phone numbers from Delhi? This is where Nandan Nilekani’s role comes under suspicion. Actually the Aadhar project that Nandan heads makes phone numbers mandatory. Only someone like Nandan Nilekani would have access to such a large database of numbers. And this is the reason why Kejriwal’s Delhi government is asking for Aadhar numbers. When the SC has ruled making Aadhar a non-madatory requirement, then why is Kejriwal’s government asking for Aadhar numbers? After all what is his compulsion? This compulsion can be understood by the relations between Infosys Chief and Ford foundation. (This report of Rakesh Singh is full of fact based journalism).

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CORDAID: Netherlands NGO funded Anna Hazare & Kejriwal and anti-national activities?

CORDAID, a Netherlands NGO is accused of having given funds to some Indian NGOs who are working for the repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act that is responsible for many human rights abuses in Kashmir valley and the North Eastern States.

The Reserve Bank of India has circulated an order to all banks in India that they have to inform it if they notice any transfer of funds from CORDAID to local NGOs. According to media reports,CORDAIDis also held responsible for partly funding the India Against Corruption trust headed by social activist Anna Hazare and his erstwhile colleague Arvind Kejriwal.

Read also: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120722/j ... IpQJIZSSK0

Netherlands NGOs have been suspected by the government to have funded anti-India activities. Oxfam-NOVIB for instance was believed to be asked to leave the country. Currently OXFAM-NOVIB is the largest donor of OXFAM India whose CEO unbelievably claimed to Sushini Hader in CNNIBN news programme that they are a local NGO.

HIVOS, another Netherlands based NGO is widely suspected in NGO circles to openly fund Naxalite activities in the country, particularly in Andhra. They are suspected to also fund Kejriwal agitation though what action the government has taken against them is not known. The NGO of Sastry, Dean of IIM-Bangalore, another a supporter of Kejriwal is funded big by HIVOs and Ford Foundation who also incidentally funds Kejriwal's NGO Kabir.

We do not know whether the government is keeping a tight eye on funding by other Netherlands based NGOs like ICCO etc Here are extracts of a John Dayal article in Facebook entitled India Chokes NGOs:

After arbitrarily cancelling as many as 4,300 FCRA permits – on specious arguments that their addresses could not be verified -- the Union government is now issuing orders virtually banning some European and US funding agencies from the country. Indian groups have been told they need to take prior permission from the Ministry of Home Affairs, which also controls the intelligence agencies and some central police forces, before they can submit their projects to funding agencies named in the government’s prohibitory list...

Authoritative sources in the government say several other European charities, specially from the Scandinavian countries, are also on the government’s radar, as are many Indian NGOs with whom they have had relationship in the past.

The NGOs affected by the government withdrawing their FCRA permits have protested, but only a few of them have had the precious license restored. In a few other cases including some high profile advocacy groups, permission has been given for them to operate their bank accounts for payment of essential services, but they cannot withdraw any money in cash.

Mr. Sanjay Patra, a highly respected transparency expert heading the Financial Management Services Foundation, there is no reason for the government’s paranoia, as there are several other laws on the books to check any misuse of funds, or diversion of money to terrorism on insurrectionist activities. Mr. Patra is also a leading light of the Voluntary Associations Network of India [VANI], which provides an interface with the government.

VANI is now engaging with the government to get the FCRA licenses restored for the NGOs that have fallen foul of the authorities. VANI is also urging the government to change provisions in the FCRA rules that make it mandatory for all NGOs to seek a renewal of their permissions every five years instead of the earlier permanent ones. Anyway, money received from foreign charities under FCRA rules can be used only in designated activities and cannot be diverted to other areas.

Of the more than two million NGOs registered in the country those registered under FCRA are 38436. Of them, 21508 Associations reported a total receipt of an amount of Rs. 10,337.59 crore [about US Dollars 195 million] as foreign contribution. Many have FCRA permits but actually do not get any funds from abroad.

The government says the NGO sector in India is vulnerable to the risks of money laundering and terrorist financing, and therefore requires some form of policing of their funds and activities. But it has not been able to adduce any real evidence indicting the NGOs or linking them with terrorist or other unlawful groups other than in political rhetoric. According to government data, list of donor countries is headed by the USA (Rs. 3105.73 crore) followed by Germany (Rs. 1046.30 crore) and UK (Rs. 1038.68 crore).

Some organisations which lost their FCRA registration

Catholic Health Association of India
Habitat for Humanity
Terres de Homes
Heifer Project India Trust
Hindustan Latex Foundation
Jamia Milia Islamia
Jawaharlal Nehru University
IIT Kanpur
Smile Foundation
Ashoka Foundation

NGOs are angry and hurt especially with a clause that almost bans dissent and protest saying these are political. And political organizations are not allowed to receive foreign funds.

Says Mathew Cherian who heads Helpage India and was part of a study on NGOs with IRMA recently: Letters sent to NGOs returned and this also led to cancellations. There could be cases of fake NGOs here but many of them were genuine cases of addresses being changed. Besides no NGO received a notice before cancellations as the rules specify

Human rights NGOs faced the brunt of most of this action, and probably they were the real target, he says.

The new rules makes it difficult to dissent and yet receive foreign support. These classify all agitations, rail rokos, and jail bharos as political action and not allowed for NGOs. So about 30 NGOs in Tamil Nadu had their accounts frozen at the peak of the Kudankulam agitation.

NGOs are not keeping quiet either. Insaf an NGO has filed a case in the Supreme Court challenging the FCRA Rules saying that these threaten the fundamental right to association.

Says Anil Chaudhury of Insaf:

''It is the duty of NGOs to express dissent. And many of us cannot function without monetary support. If it is taken away I would just close down. So it is the best way to gag me.’’


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$80,000 in 2002 was equivalent to Kejriwal’s 15 years’ salary. Moreover, the biggest fraud is that the donors, i.e. organizations that funded Kejriwal’s so-called NGOs were the decision makers in the award of his Magsaysay Award. This includes the CIA. Further, the representative of Ford Foundation on India Steven Solnick admitted on 31st August 2012 that the Magsaysay Award for Kejriwal was funded by them.

Subsequently, foreign money began to flow into Kejriwal’s NGO. As per the response to an RTI filed by a website Beyond Headlines, the other foreign contributors to Kejriwal’s NGO ‘Kabir’ were Ford Foundation (Rs 86,61,742), PRIA (Rs 2,37,035), Manjunath Shanmugam Trust (Rs 3,70,000), Dutch Embassy (Rs 19,61,968), Association for India’s Development (Rs 15,00,000), India’s Friends Association (Rs 7,86,500), United Nations Development Programme (Rs12,52,742) while Rs 11,35,857 were collected from individual donations between 2007 to 2010.

The link 6 in the Chart at the start indicates recipients of the funds by the Dutch entity Humanistic Institute for Cooperation with Developing Countries (HIVOS). It provided € 1.3 million between 2008 and 2012. Of these more than half, i.e. DISHA, GKVP, SAFAR, MAHITI, SWATI, and UTHAN are active in Gujarat. The others like CJP run by Teesta Setalvad and ANHAD run by Shabnam Hashmi are known for their virulent anti-Modi campaign.

HIVOS in turn is the highest recipient of funds from Ford Foundation. It has an office in India receiving $1.2 million (Ref.: http://www.fordfoundation.org/Grants/Se ... ase=kabeer). HIVOS also funded Kejriwal’s Parivartan (http://www.hivos.nl/eng/content/view/full/96/(sector)/10000025/(country)/10000011).

There are various other organizations funded by the Dutch government i.e. PSO Association and PRIA. These organizations ostensibly are engaged in ‘development and social work’, however their main purpose is to promote American agenda. The US adopts the Dutch route in various target countries so that suspicions are not aroused. HIVOS receives €27 million from the Dutch government and funds the PRIA, which is also a Ford Foundation partner. Another PSO partner Soliaridad also funds PRIA. PRIA funded Kejriwal as well. Many countries have compelled the PSO to windup its activities as they have been found to be intrusive.

Another Dutch funded organization is PANOS, which has seven offices in South Asia. This too is recipient of funds from Ford Foundation and its main purpose is to manipulate the media ‘in South Asia’. So is it surprising that a segment of Indian electronic media has gone to vulgar extent in amplifying Kejriwal? The funding of the Dutch entities as mentioned by the Ford Foundation is evidenced by the document placed below:

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Collusion between CIA and Kejriwal

All the documents above suggest the alleged systematic subversion and creation of Kejriwal by the CIA through the Ford Foundation and the Dutch entities. A CIA document clearly establishes as to how CIA loans officers to Ford Foundation.

Kejriwal - India's biggest Scam Images - 9

It has also been established that CIA operatives operate through the academic route. One such academic researcher Ms Shimrit Lee was associated with Kejriwal’s Kabir NGO in the garb of doing research on ‘Public Power: India and Other Democracies’. Ms Lee specializes in Tahrir Square type demonstrations that we are now witnessing in Ukraine. She has been active in Cairo, Haifa, Chad and Israel, India and US. It is she who introduced the ideas of Mohalla Committees and brought the Arab Spring technology to India to launch Kejriwal. Ms Lee’s photograph is given below:

Kejriwal - India's biggest Scam Images - 10

That the US has been using the Dutch for pushing its agenda in India, which includes destabilization of India’s Northeast is known. It is evident by the bonhomie between Netherlands and various Naga outfits, particularly the NSCN (IM). It was the NSCN (IM) which took umbrage when on 17-July-2002 in a written reply to a question in parliament, the late Digvijay Singh then Minister of External Affairs said that Netherlands was one of the countries where terrorists have safe heavens besides Pakistan. It may also be reiterated that the NSCN (IM) always insists on holding talks with the Indian government in Amsterdam. It is also well known as to how the CIA and the Dutch Intelligence Agency (BVD – Binenlandise Veiligheidsdienst) connived in allowing AQ Khan to steal nuclear secrets from URENCO, site at Almeto in Netherlands, only with the purpose of balancing Pakistan with India in nuclear capability during the Cold War. It is through this kind of geopolitical balancing in various regions that the US maintains its lead role.

Just as in the case of lead role by geopolitical balancing the Western countries maintain their supremacy in global economy through the ‘offshore financial centers’. These centers thrive on black money of the developing world. Was it for this reason that Kejriwal was created to kill Ramdev’s movement for recovery of black money stashed abroad? During the entire Anna agitation, not even once, the issue of black money in foreign soil was raised.

In pursuit of the CIA agenda there are Indians who have been partnering Kejriwal. Is it a coincidence that a former Admiral also a recipient of Magsaysay Award accompanied Kejriwal when he filed his nomination from New Delhi constituency? This Admiral, whose daughter married to a Pakistani, has been in the forefront against India’s ‘nuclear development’. Is it a mere coincidence that the closest aides of Kejriwal are recipients of funding from Ford Foundation. Is it also a mere coincidence that Kejriwal never served out of Delhi during his government service, and helping him in this bid was none other than Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, who wrote a letter to ensure the same? Is it also a mere coincidence that Arvind Kejriwal is a protégé of Aruna Roy, another recipient of Magsaysay Award, and a member of Sonia’s National Advisory Council?

Arvind Kejriwal is therefore not a political threat but a security threat to this country, his main objective being to destabilize India to perpetuate US agenda.

Arvind Kejriwal is India’s biggest scam.

(RSN Singh is a former military intelligence officer who later served in the Research & Analysis Wing. The author of two books: Asian Strategic and Military Perspective and Military Factor in Pakistan, he is also a Guest Blogger with Canary Trap. The opinions expressed by the author and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not reflect the opinions of Canary Trap or any employee thereof)



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There seem to be many allegations and they should be properly investigated.
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Postby Supratik » 14 Jun 2014 22:23

KrishnaK wrote:No Proof Required: In defence of Greenpeace From a very vocal supporter of the gujarat model of development. All this NGOs taking indian growth down by 2-3% is bogus. Entertaining nevertheless.



Anecdotal evidence suggests foreign funded NGOs are behind stalling several important economic projects. Case in point Kudankulam (where the PM no friend of BJP said so) and Posco. We have previous experience of international opposition to the Narmada dam. While a 2-3% fall in GDP may not be correct I don't see why you need foreign funds to promote say the environment in India. Strictest regulations should be brought in to regulate NGOs and they be allowed accessing foreign funds only under very transparent conditions.

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Postby muraliravi » 14 Jun 2014 22:39

All this hue and cry about NGO's stalling development is just a cloud, The real report that was submitted 2 days before that. People just missed it and I am still searching for it. That report exposes the full EJ activity details of these NGO's. The govt has been smart about this, while they can paint these NGO's as anti development to garner public support to ban them, the real meat is banning these NGO's for promoting conversion

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Postby vera_k » 14 Jun 2014 23:13

If the NGO motives are suspect, only solution is to investigate and prove that their goals run counter to what they state under FCRA. If FCRA is not enough, look at updating it to have provisions similar to FARA (www.fara.gov) to provide more grounds to identify foreign agents.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Karan Dixit » 14 Jun 2014 23:40

UlanBatori wrote:What I would respond (too long for Teetar, sorry)

Ms. Du(h)tt may be too busy and important to have noticed that FDI stands for
Foreign Direct Investment
in India's economy.

NOT
Foreign Destabilization and Invasion


The issue here is not "Foreign MONEY" but the blatant misuse of this money to override the actions of the democratically elected government, cause riots, influence elections, buy voters, destroy progress and obstruct development of the economy.

I wonder if this concerns Ms. Du(h)tt, and whether someone could explain it to her. Given Ms.Du(h)tt's history of giving away Classified information on our soldiers' locations in an area being shelled by the enemy (I mean of India, not of Ms. Du(h)tt) I wonder if it concerns her at all.


India has misfortune of being a host to a large number of idiots. I want to bang my head on a wall when I come across these idiots. In situations like these I can understand the benefits of patriotic education program that China has. I am not kidding. Few months ago, I had lunch with two people, one was a Hindi speaking North Indian from Hariyana and another a lady from China. During lunch our Hariyanwi brother says that British rule was good for India because or else we would never have trains. I looked at him baffled and thought, seriously, did he just say that? Now coming back to the Chinese lady, she was also ill informed but her answers were not idiotic and although her position was unethical, it was beneficial to China materialistically. Her answers were canned. For example she blamed Tibetans for their own misery because they refused to accept Chinese gifts. According to her everything in Tibet including genocide and human-right violations would cease to exist if Tibetans would just agree to accept Chinese generosity. Obviously she has been through the patriotic education.

India desperately needs a patriotic education program on a national level. Of course the level will be different for a kid in the kindergarten than someone who wants to be Burkha Dutta. India as a nation cannot afford to have stupid people like Burkha Dutta spreading stupidity given it is a democracy and confusion among people can cost the nation big time.

I am not suggesting that India start a brainwashing program like China. Because, it is harmful. Luckily enough for Indians, it is not very hard to defend Indian policies because they are often ethical and reasonable. India just needs to be wary of propaganda that are being hurled at it.

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Postby schinnas » 14 Jun 2014 23:49

While government needs to act tough against NGOs helping EJs and Naxals, it will be highly detrimental to paint everyone under a broad brush or to demonize several legitimate NGOs. Greenpeace has been anti-development throughout the world including in Western Europe where they draw their most

In India, Greenpeace and environment based NGOs have also done several good work - such as protection of endangered species, popularizing organic farming, creating awareness against GMO seeds and Monsanto, etc. Most important of all these is creating awareness about environment and that's the reason Greenpeace is getting lot of support from young educated Indians who are concerned about the near total lack of environmental awareness in India. One recent example was an NGO protecting sea turtles in Chennai coast during their breeding season.

A balanced course of action would be to create public awareness that several NGOs are used as tools by foreign powers including well meaning ones with or without their knowledge and make the foreign funding transparent. Given the sensitive role religion plays in social harmony, NGOs indulging in conversion and religious propogation should be banned from receiving foreign funding. If any NGO indulges in activities they were not registered for or hides their foreign funding and collaboration, strong action should be taken. At the same time NGOs that do good work (even with foreign funding by NRIs) should be nurtured and not demonized.

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Postby UlanBatori » 15 Jun 2014 02:22

One recent example was an NGO protecting sea turtles in Chennai coast during their breeding season.


I find it a bit incongruous (cognitive dissonance may be a better word) to see NGOs in India agitating to Protect Sea Turtles in Chennai, ignoring the (Human) babies (and their parents)who do not have access to basic needs and hygiene.

The image that keeps coming back, is that of the Indian Ambassador to Iraq in 1990, weeping openly on TV out of frustration, noting that the pet cats of westerners leaving Iraq found space on the UN planes while Indian children were left to starve.

That's how they treat Indians abroad. It is high time India's elected government stopped these sh1ts coming INSIDE India and treating Indians with equal contempt. Hang them all.

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Postby Muppalla » 15 Jun 2014 02:30

UlanBatori wrote:Which reminds me of many years ago, when the warning was sounded clearly with facts and references given. Shri Narendra Modi and Shri KPS Gill inaugurated the book.
NGOs Activists and Foreign Funds: Anti National Industry

You can download or read the whole thing online.


BRF has definitely ensured this time this particular link spread via Twitter.

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Postby panduranghari » 15 Jun 2014 03:05

muraliravi wrote:All this hue and cry about NGO's stalling development is just a cloud, The real report that was submitted 2 days before that. People just missed it and I am still searching for it. That report exposes the full EJ activity details of these NGO's. The govt has been smart about this, while they can paint these NGO's as anti development to garner public support to ban them, the real meat is banning these NGO's for promoting conversion


Murali ji
In my opinion, this report was ready a while back but IB just sat on it. They knew nothing was going to happen. Remember MMS said KK nuclear plant had opposition from foreign funded NGOs. My guess is government then told IB to prepare a mire detailed report which is now released. Assuming PMO requested a report on 29th may- a day after swearing in- the report from IB has to be detailed and with enough verification and confirmations before pen is put to paper. Of course EJ menace may be the main aim of this scrum. But this report must be old enough with additions subsequently.

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Postby Vayutuvan » 15 Jun 2014 03:18

In my experience, majority of these same people are also pure non-vegetarian thus turning a blind eye to large scale detrsuction of forests for agricultural land to feed the factory farmed beef so that they can eat protein produced in a very inefficient way. I cannot explain this whimsical behavior. especially on Indian upper middle class urban youth. This might seem whimsical at first but there could be some agenda behind this kind of brainwashing.

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Postby schinnas » 15 Jun 2014 04:14

UlanBatori wrote:
One recent example was an NGO protecting sea turtles in Chennai coast during their breeding season.


I find it a bit incongruous (cognitive dissonance may be a better word) to see NGOs in India agitating to Protect Sea Turtles in Chennai, ignoring the (Human) babies (and their parents)who do not have access to basic needs and hygiene.


Surprised to see such an argument from you, Sir. That argument can be extended to say anything? Why should Indians need mission to mars when there are poor people without access to toilets? Or why should Indians study aerodynamics and fluid mechanics, instead of cleaning slums and working on the field?

That said, the particular act of sea turtles was done by Indian student volunteers taking early morning strolls in the beach near the areas where the turtles lay eggs and took them to protected hatchery.

I fully understand the damage some NGOs cause and want us to clearly act against them but wanted to just give a word of caution so that we dont get carried away. In other words, in our rush to get Mainos out of the country, we should not impact Annie beasants aswell who genuinely contribute to the country. Besides as you very well know there are lot of Indian NGOs that get foreign funding from NRIs. Knowing you, we are probably meaning the same thing but focusing on different aspects of it.

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Postby Cosmo_R » 15 Jun 2014 04:36

@ schinnas ^^^: Jeremy Bentham " ..it is the greatest happiness of the greatest number that is the measure of right and wrong"

Elitist foreign funded NGOs who hold the value of a Hornbill above that of security of the Andamans against the Chinese outposts in the Cocos (Google) or those of that indefatigable crusader Medha Patkar against the rights of and obligations to 30 million Gujaratis of providing them including farmers, water.

When the NGOs violate the Bentham principle, they are the enemy and fair game.

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Postby Philip » 15 Jun 2014 05:39

In the immortal words of arch-quisling,Udayakumar,"vy doesn't the gorement taaake acshun against them?"

Now that the IB has brought out the report about these treacherous NGOs and their heads,plus the "Ford Foundation" candidate,Jokeriwal, they should be immediately prosecuted.The foreign funding for these outfits and those involved in mercenary conversions must be exposed and stopped at all costs.I posted well over a year ago how an EJ outfit had offered to pay upto 2 lakhs per family member if they would convert! The govt. has a massive majority and mandate to clean up corruption in the country.This is also not just corruption but subversion and treason.

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Postby schinnas » 15 Jun 2014 06:01

Cosmo-R:
Agreed with a clarification. I support playing emphasis on security related projects as much as you. Fully agreed with Philip that we should act tough against those that indulge in social engineering by giving bribes for conversions and denigrate dharmic paths in India. We should go after them with heavy hand.

I am just making a cautionary voice to ensure that we don't reduce everything to the least common denominator. Every government should have a cautionary voice that protects against mob mentality and intolerance. Another reason for my concern is that agents of MNCs such as Mansanto are joining the chorous and will block genuine NGOs that have been protecting Indian farming ways and Indian farmers from predatory practices of Mansanto and other MNCs.

Our world is not perfect. Except for a few, our babus still live in colonial times and lord over people instead of serving them. Just visit any government office and see how villagers and poor get kicked around from pillar to post. Poor and tribals and organic farmers don't have strong advocates for them in our increasingly impersonal society. NGOs do play a crucial role in balancing this and ensuring that the concerns of tribals, poor and organic farmers are alteast heard. Is there an room for someone to manipulate this. yes, some NGOs do, and we should act against them. At the same time we should make double sure not to go after NGOs fighting against genuine causes. Even a highly positive Chipko movement of Sunderlal Bahuguna can be painted under the "NGOs are subversive" bandwidth if one is not careful. Monsanto and the like can very easily kill our foodgrain security if there is no public activism over GMO products. If not for NGOs most of Indian native seeds would have already perished thanks to Monsanto.

I would be among first in the line saying that NGO route is used by foreign interests inimical to India for subvertive activities or for social engineering and we should keep a close watch and take firm action against those. That said, I would be very concerned if we paint all NGOs with a negative brush just to get at a few. That will be torching the house to kill pests :)

Instead of preaching to the choir on why *some* NGOs are bad (I am already with you on this, no need to convince me), we should probably discuss how to distinguish between good and bad ones and how do we ensure in our often uninformed and corrupt government machinary and MSM, vested interests don't crush good NGOs. Modi-ji cannot know about each and every NGO and we should evolve appropriate policies in place.

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Postby Anindya » 15 Jun 2014 06:04

NGO’s- The ugly side to it

Currently the CBI is probing the funding received by the following NGO’s Tamil Nadu Muslim Muneetra Kazagham, Coimbatore; Reach in Nilgiris, Tamil Nadu; Abul Kalam Azad Islamic Awakening Centre, New Delhi; Khwaja Khushal Charitable Trust, Muzaffarnagar, Uttar Pradesh; Shri Arvind Khanna, ex-MLA, Punjab; Anjumane Hussamia Educational Association, Hyderabad, Vishwa Dharmayatan Trust, New Delhi; Shri Ratnesh Khandelwal and nine others, Bombay, Shri Prakas C. Bhatt and four others, Bombay, Heritage Foundation, Uttar Pradesh, IGEP Foundation, New Delhi, Samast Muslim Khalifa Sunnatwal Jamat Navsari, Gujarat, Evangelical Lutheran Church, Madhya Pradesh; Tuticorin Diocese Association, Tuticorin.

The cases beiing probed by the state police are Rajasthan Harvest Ministries, Jaipur; Matsyagandhi Mahila Welfare Association, Andhra Pradesh; Madrasa Jamiyad Ravatul—e—Hat, Gujarat; Mount View Academy, Madurai and Reach International Education and Social Welfare Trust, Tamil Nadu, Bhartiya Cattle Resource Development, New Delhi; Good Vision, Kanyakumari, Trust for Rural Uplift and Education, Tirunelveli; AID India Chennai, Saccer, Nagercoil, Tamil Nadu, and Centre for Promotion of Social Concern, Tamil Nadu.

The foriegn funding contribution (Regulation) Act: it is mandatory that NGO’s register under this act in order to get funds from abroad. 38436 Associations have been registered under the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act. Out of this 21508 NGO’s have received funds amounting to over Rs 10000 crore. The NGO’s in Delhi top the list with Rs. 1815.91 crore. Tamil Nadu with Rs. 1663.31 crore and Andhra Pradesh (Rs. 1324.87 crore) come second and third in this list.

The biggest donors have been the United States of America with Rs. 3105.73 crore. Germany has contributed Rs Rs. 1046.30 crore and UK Rs. 1038.68 crore
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Professor R Vaidyanathan says that the list of foreign donors is headed by the Gospel For Asia Inc, USA at Rs. 232.71 crore. The Fundacion Vicente Ferrer, Barcelona, Spain at Rs.228.60 crore and the World Vision Global Centre, USA Rs.197.62 crore come second and third in the list of top donors.

The highest amount of foreign contribution was received by the World Vision of India, Chennai, Tamil Nadu Rs.208.94 crore, followed by the Rural Development Trust, Ananthapur, A.P. Rs.151.31 crore Third on this list is the Shri Sevasubramania Nadar Educational Charitable Trust, Chennai Rs. 94.28 crore.

Blacklisted: Recently action was taken against 833 NGOs which were getting funds, but were found to be misusing them. Of the 833 NGOs and voluntary organisations which were blacklisted, 192 were from Andhra Pradesh, 125 from Bihar, 83 from Tamil Nadu, 75 from Karnataka, 72 from Uttar Pradesh, 42 from Rajasthan and 35 from Kerala. Thirty-two such organisations were from Orissa, 26 from West Bengal, 24 from Maharashtra, 23 from Delhi, 20 from Haryana, 18 from Manipur, 15 from Madhya Pradesh, 13 from Gujarat, 10 from Nagaland, eight from Jharkhand, five each from Mizoram and Himachal Pradesh, three from Jammu and Kashmir, two from Pondicherry and one each from Arunchal Pradesh, Assam, Chhattisgarh, Meghalaya and Uttaranchal.

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Postby UlanBatori » 15 Jun 2014 07:09

AID India Chennai


Hmm! An inspired search of Googleswara brought the following:

About 56,600,000 results (0.54 seconds)
Search Results

AID
http://www.aidindia.info/
2.27 "Allah will destroy terrorist state of India" ... Purpose. AID India documents which AID higher ups find embarrasing have the habit of dissappearing. We have ...
VIGIL Online - THE OXYMORON CALLED AID
http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?op ... ent&task...
Then, the AID volunteers talk of poverty in India and induce guilt in the minds of ... the event read, 'ALLAH WILL DESTROY THE TERRORIST STATE OF INDIA'.
Friends of South Asia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_South_Asia
Wikipedia
Founded jointly in 2001 by Americans of Pakistani and Indian origins, FOSA .... of a man holding a placard reading "Allah will destroy the terrorist state of India" at an October .... AID (Association for India's Development) Documents Repository.
Communism Watch: Arise, Awake - and leave Asha, AID
communismwatch.blogspot.com/.../arise-awake-and-leave-asha-aid.html
Aug 1, 2005 - ... to organizing "Allah will destroy India" campaigns to demonizing India in the International media - all are spearheaded by AID and affiliate ...


The top link there is deservingly the top link

I should also mention that although AID USA claims to have no links to AID-India (and hence to the CPI-Marxist-Leninist and Maoists.., all of which share most members) the web pages of both organizations came out of the very same template. Purely coincidental , of course. Miracles never cease.

Recent events validate the notions that were refined some 16 years ago: A lovingly created web site with honest facts outlasts a Mainstream Media OpEd (which the buggers won't let us publish), and has order-of-magnitude more effect. :mrgreen:
Disclaimer: NONE of the sites posted above were posted by me or any of my Coujins!!

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Postby Raja Ram » 15 Jun 2014 07:17

As a person who has had some exposure to some level of detail in terms of the level of infiltration into socio-cultural and economic institutions, corporate sector, academia, environmental discourse etc, the speed of explosive growth in the number of NGOs and the level of influence and control achieved by them, I can safely say:

(i) There is a need for strengthening counter intelligence network, surveillance and financial scrutiny. This has to be done very quickly and effectively.

(ii) It is a very cloudy and messy situation. Clear classification of NGO is not possible anymore. However, broad classification can bucket them into four - Clearly Foreign controlled, agenda driven NGO and individuals, Well meaning NGOs partially taken over or under the influence of Foreign powers with out their knowledge, Well meaning NGOs partially taken over or under influence of Foreign powers with their knowledge, NGOs that are working for a cause with a nationalist outlook and with real service. It is not easy to slot all NGOs in India today into these categories. There is not enough data, not enough intelligence and NGOs move between these neat categories as well in a very rapid pace.

(iii) Hence there is a need for

(a) Policy level framework that provides the necessary wherewithal for the GoI to gain better control over this issue
(b) Thorough overhaul and extension of counter intelligence capabilities and informer networks (state and centre have to work out a model that is coordinated and comprehensive)
(c) Close monitoring of money channels. The funding channels are not always banks or foreign donations a lot of money is routed through non-traditional means as well

Given the size and extant of the problem, the heightened level of activities to destabilize we do not have the luxury of time. We cannot afford to give the benefit of doubt to any NGO today. One has to assume that it has some element of control or influence by foreign powers with a view to destabilize India in all NGOS. It is the sad reality. It is unfortunate and some may say that it is dangerous and Macarthy like to do so. I however see no option at the moment.

GoI policy, intelligence gathering and financial monitoring has to be improved based on this basic principle until the mess is cleaned up. We need to do this effectively and efficiently and we need to do it quickly. The last decade has actually been one of rampant proliferation of the fifth column. The weakest link in India's National Security arrangements has been fully exploited for infiltration. It is now being primed for disruptive action. The challenge for the GoI and indeed all Indians is to expose this network, discredit it in public the leadership and defang their capabilities. My guess is that it will take at least 3-5 years to do all this and regain control to some extent.

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Postby schinnas » 15 Jun 2014 07:39

Raja Ram-ji,
Fully concur. It will need to be an ongoing process as new NGOs will keep forming and funding sources / activities of several NGOs will change. Most important is to prioritize so limited IB resources can be efficiently utilized. We need to sort NGOs in terms of financial reach and impact with an over-ride for adding NGOs that are highly active in the media and put them into the various buckets.

One benefit that will arise out of the open media attention and government focus on NGOs is that several interests will think twice before brazenly going after an NGO centric strategy. Some players like Aamir Khans will looking into reducing their reliance on NGOs and focus more on direct dealings with other players here. Will be interesting to watch.

More important is to get state government support for these efforts. BJP forming government in critical states such as MH, UP and Bihar will be critical in this respect.

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Postby TKiran » 15 Jun 2014 07:58

Tiripati gets an annual income of 400 crores with 30,000 employees and another 1 lakh pensioners. We can make these NGO-s too to employ that many numbers, and put them under endowment dept., & headed by an IAS as Executive Officer, problem can be solved.

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Postby UlanBatori » 15 Jun 2014 17:34

How about just printing up posters and pasting them on the walls kindly provided at the headquarters and official residences of, say, Green-Shanti and other Phoren Limo Charities?

This game of having hajaar supporters agitate, can be played by two, hain? The facts are out, now all it takes is for ppl to get out with the protests. The media, I suspect, will show pictures of Protests Against Green Shanty as well as against anyone else. :mrgreen:

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Postby UlanBatori » 15 Jun 2014 17:54

Each of these NGOs must have some ratio of (Proactive Altruistic) : (Negative Antagonistic) activities. Publishing the funding ratio for these might be a revelation, and a proper counter to the argument that NGOs DO SO MUCH GOOD!

Also, a little funding might do a lot of damage - as the Pakis have shown, so investigating the negatives is also essential. The Proactive Altruistic data will surely be provided by the NGO, but then investigated carefully with the question of WHY?

For instance, GreenPeace may have saved a few turtle babies, but how much funding went into hiring a few students to go out on the beach with a papparazzi to record that (which was the point of the exercise) vs. the funding that went into planning that to agitate against whatever development was being blamed for the plight of the turtle-babies? This is an example of investigating the (apparently) Pro-Active Altruistic - I BET the turtle-saving was directed to obstruct useful human activity that would have put food in the mouths of many human-babies.

Now compare the cost of hiring those students, vs. the cost of one GreenPeace Exec flying out to India:
$5000 (at least) Bijnej Class airfare
$250 per night hotel
$100/day rental vehicle + driver + petrol
$75/day food + booze
Multiply 425 x 3 (at least 3-day stay?) = 1275

So, $6275 for ONE exec, 3-day trip to organize the students to go out and relocated turtle babies + put mug on TV. Plus have a couple of OTHER types of meetings where no records were kept or transmitted.

Roughly INR 3,76,500 for just the trip expenses.

How much did they spend on the students? Maybe INR 23,500 total? Adding up to INR 4 lakhs.
Plus 5 days of the Exec, who costs, say, $400,000 per year, or about $200 per working-day hour meaning $8000 = INR 480,000)

Do you think they spent INR 9.8 Lakhs just to save the turtle babies until they grew up and made more Turtle Soup? These are the questions that have to be laid b4 the desi public who sit with their stupid eyes glued to the TV set believing all the pakistan that these NGOs and their paid MediaHeads put out.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Philip » 15 Jun 2014 18:10

Knowing that there will be scrutiny of foreign fund flows into their coffers,the firang mischief-makers appear to be advising their local quislings to become financially independent.The seed money for setting up money making entities will come from abroad,with eventual local financial independence as far as poss. The govt. should bring all NGOs under a common rule of conduct,especially with regard to funding. As some have advocated,there is a huge need for increased intel infrastructure to augment surveillance through ,humint,and electronic resources. the war against India through the NGO quislings is one that encompasses every institution and sphere of activity in the country.It has to be snuffed out with extreme prejudice.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby member_28042 » 15 Jun 2014 18:14

Fifth column: An end to socialist elitism?

Human beings, no matter how poor, want a life of dignity and this is something the Prime Minister understands well. From this comes his commitment to an India that has clean, sanitary towns and villages in which every Indian has a pucca home with running water and electricity. It seems a simple enough dream, but it was not one that Sonia and her NGO advisors could see, because in their romanticised vision of poverty, all that needs to be done for the poor is to throw crumbs their way. Nobody noticed that no matter how much cheap food grain and rights to jobs and education they flung at the poor, it did not make up for the absence of real jobs and real schools. The irony is that they called these policies ‘inclusive’ when they were not just elitist, but disdainful.

Meanwhile, Sonia’s NGO advisors and her NGO environment minister closed down projects that could have created real jobs in some of India’s poorest states. No government has been more well-disposed to the NGO sector than the one just gone and the result is that there is now an NGO for every 600 Indians. Most of these NGOs are frauds, so this columnist was delighted to read the Intelligence Bureau report that exposes their fraudulence. But NGOs were useful to the last government because they provided a useful veil for the elitism and corruption that lay beneath.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby KrishnaK » 16 Jun 2014 02:47

schinnas wrote: Instead of preaching to the choir on why *some* NGOs are bad (I am already with you on this, no need to convince me), we should probably discuss how to distinguish between good and bad ones and how do we ensure in our often uninformed and corrupt government machinary and MSM, vested interests don't crush good NGOs. Modi-ji cannot know about each and every NGO and we should evolve appropriate policies in place.
Clear laws and effective implementation. Almost all of our ills can be solved by improving governance. No point :(( against the foreign hand. We have successfully navigated far more dangerous waters to start dhoti shivering at NGOs now.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Kati » 16 Jun 2014 06:00

Why not some well-meaning desi NGOs opening shops in massaland
and create similar pressure points?
For example, given any world situation, just highlight mass'a failed foreign policy, etc etc.
Highlight Iraqi mess, Libyan mess...visit the fallen soldiers' homes, and give some freebies with pamphlets explaining how massa's foreign policy is actually hurting poor soldiers who are
from extremely poor families.
Te moot point is - always create some noise at the grass-root level and do pretty much what massa is doing in Bharat.
It'll be an asymmetrical battle, but can we give it some thought?

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Lilo » 16 Jun 2014 06:18

^
Money.
Massa can print Money, we cant.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Gus » 16 Jun 2014 06:39

Kati wrote:It'll be an asymmetrical battle, but can we give it some thought?


well..that's not new..the chinese do that already with their own HR reports etc, but they do not have any moral high ground, soft power, chorus of minions to parrot your reports etc - to pull it off and it only results in people laughing at this.

at this point we should try to get our s*** together on basic stuff, while gaining more allies as our hard and soft power increases along with our economy and then we can play this game where we have a chance to win/hold our own. right now it is best to just ignore these reports and unsolicited "concerns" blah blah..

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Avarachan » 16 Jun 2014 07:48

This is an exhaustive "Tehelka" report from 2010 (?) on evangelical Protestant "evangelism" in India. I recommend that you save it in multiple formats (hard drive, hard copy, etc.) For the record, I am an Indian Orthodox Christian. I very much dislike how these people are giving Christianity a bad name through their often inappropriate behavior.

http://archive.tehelka.com/story_main.a ... a.asp&id=1

The Al Qaeda has "benefitted from a network structure that allows passionate and committed individuals and groups to contribute to a wider purpose (whether for good or ill) with a minimum of co-ordination and administration. Widely seen as an effective antidote to bureaucracy (the corporate equivalent of arthritis), the network has arrived as the organisational structure for a globalising, post-modern world… The persistence of the Al Qaeda network in the face of unrelenting pressure is a case in point."

- Richard Tiplady, a church-planting strategist, in a paper presented at a conference organised by All Nations Christian College (September 2003) on 'Survive or Thrive? Is there a future for the mission agency?'

The irony is inescapable. Taking a leaf out of what Tiplady calls "Al Qaeda's operational mobility", American missionary organisations are, methodically and very scientifically, planting the Church and recruiting disciples, pincer-style. With George W Bush, a "born again" Christian as the President of United States, the missionary enterprise is in full gear, trying to "save (Indian) souls" and "reach the unreached".

The modus operandi for evangelical activities is simple, even if scary: Channel exorbitant funds through the eager Bush administration; circumvent the Indian law banning registration of new missionaries by sending "men of God" on tourist visas; use Indians already converted to convert fresh faithfuls. And yes, the underlying message: work relentlessly and patiently.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Neela » 16 Jun 2014 12:14

Neela wrote:
somnath wrote:Its been a long time. The IB report is seriously hilarious for multiple points.
1. IB concludes that NGO-giri has reduced GDP growth rate by 2-3%. However, there is no evidence to back that up, no analytics, no empirical study to back a random hypothesis. Why 2%? From which sectors, what downstream impact? Why not 4%, or 0.5%? Nothing beyond a sentence. Having known numerous people who have served in IB in the past, I cannot recall a single economic policy maven in their ranks - hence not really surprised at the outcome. Though the pretense of economic wisdom is a touch strange.


The question is whether there is merit in what the IB is saying. It is akin to someone in govt saying "X project will create 100s of jobs & contribute Y amount to the state" . Most people with common sense know what to take away from that . The same is applicable for the IB statement. Questioning exact numbers is frankly silly. I would say it is a well deserved warning for trolling.
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Glad I aint the only one who isn't too worried about the exactness of numbers in the IB report.

a) First and foremost any protest or attempts to delay projects need not break the law. There are myriad of ways in which one can protest without breaking the law but with the clear and deliberate intent of stopping or stalling the projects. This point does not need elaboration here. The focus of IB is not on law but intent.

b) I am at loss on the tone and tenor with which to react to his lament that IB report is “tight lipped” about institutions and officials in the UPA government agreeing with the recommendations of these FFNGOs. Suffice it to say that IB’s job is certainly not to write a thesis on “Development economics in Emerging Countries- Challenges and Solutions.” IB is an investigating agency not the Economics department at JNU, their job is not to write about the views and actions of all the stake holders.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby Neela » 16 Jun 2014 12:22

NAPM - National Alliance of People's Movements
http://napm-india.org/
Looks like this is a common platform to host movements of all types.

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Re: IB Points to NGO Role in Waging War on India

Postby schinnas » 16 Jun 2014 12:50

Time to consider the NGO issue in a different, constructive light. Money alone is powerless without committed volunteers for most NGOs involved in issues of public importance. Several educated youth want to provide their services to a cause that they think is justified. Given lack of clear and inspiring options, they join naxalism or communism with a romantic view of establishing an egalitarian society. Similarly they support Greenpeace and other such NGOs that work for idealistic goals. Often these volunteers who are well intentioned are exploited without their knowledge. Instead of pursuing only a policy of sticks, government can offer carrots also.

Modi sarkar has mega plans in terms of increasing forest cover and in cleaning rivers and improving ground water levels by reclaiming tanks and natural reservoirs. This is a FANTASTIC opportunity to include NGOs and give the competent ones among them sufficient grants and make them partners in the endeavor. NGOs such as Greenpeace have some truely idealistic and talented people whose skills can be positively utilized for growth of India. There are some good examples of government NGO partnership. The recent work of cleaning lakes in Coimbatore is a good example of government and NGO partnership which also saw huge participation by local population.

While a policy of sticks is needed for NGOs who are designed to cause trouble, for the set of NGOs who have a noble goal but who could be exploited by financial sponsors (NGOs work on projects based on the grants they get as everything needs money) without their full knowledge, a policy of cooperation and sponsorship could be a win-win.


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