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There is no thread to be found on the strategic implications of the war being waged on India through NGOs, so I am starting one.

Now that it is fashionable to talk of these things, theIndian IB has come out with a Report.
..Intelligence Bureau (IB) has submitted a classified document identifying several foreign-funded non-governmental organisations (NGOs) that are “negatively impacting economic development”.

“A significant number of Indian NGOs (funded by some donors based in the US, the UK, Germany, The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries) have been noticed to be using people centric issues to create an environment which lends itself to stalling development projects,” says the IB report marked to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO).

“The negative impact on GDP growth is assessed to be 2-3 per cent per annum,” says the June 3 report, identifying seven sectors/ projects that got stalled because of NGO-created agitations against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, coal-fired power plants, farm biotechnology, mega industrial projects, hydroelectric plants and extractive industries.

While detailing what it calls “anti-development” activities by the NGOs during 2011-13, the 21-page report highlights their plans for 2014 and the areas that would come under pressure. These include a campaign against palm oil imports from Indonesia and disposal of e-waste of Indian IT firms, organising construction workers in urban areas, protests against identified projects such as Gujarat’s Special Investment Regions, Par Tapi Narmada River Interlinking Project and the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor.

.. while caste discrimination, human rights and big dams were earlier chosen by international organisations to discredit India at global forums, the recent shift in the choice of issues was to encourage “growth-retarding campaigns” focused on extractive industries, genetically-modified organisms and foods, climate change and anti-nuclear issues.

funding.. came from foreign donors under charitable garb for issues ranging from protection of human rights, violence against women, caste discrimination, religious freedom etc or to provide a “just deal” to the project-affected displaced persons or for protection of livelihood of indigenous people.

The NGOs become the central players in setting the agenda, drafting documents, writing in the media, highlighting scholars-turned-activists and lobbying diplomats and government, it says. “These foreign donors lead local NGOs to provide field reports which are used to build a record against India and serve as tools for the strategic foreign policy interests of the Western government,” adds the report.

“The strategy serves its purpose when the funded Indian NGOs provide reports, which are used to internationalise and publicise the alleged violations in international fora. All the above is used to build a record against a country or an individual in order to keep the entity under pressure and under a state of under-development,” says the IB report.

Four NGOs were put under the scanner in 2012 for allegedly fuelling protests against the Kudankulam nuclear project in Tamil Nadu. The accounts of several Indian NGOs were put in the watch list with regard to allegations of funds diversion, after a discreet probe by security agencies with the help of Directorate of Revenue Intelligence and Central Economic Intelligence Bureau.
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Which reminds me of many years ago, when the warning was sounded clearly with facts and references given. Shri Narendra Modi and Shri KPS Gill inaugurated the book.
NGOs Activists and Foreign Funds: Anti National Industry

You can download or read the whole thing online.
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Madhav Nalapat on Hilary Clinton's war against India

By Daya Gamage - Asian Tribune Political Note
Washington, D.C. 16 May (Asiantribune.com):

Hillary Clinton, immediately she assumed Obama administration's secretary of state, designed a policy to go after India's Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi for his alleged complicity in the 2002 Gujarat riots that killed about one thousand Muslims followed by a massacre of train-full of Hindus. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been hounding Narendra Modi.

Under President George W. Bush Mr. Modi's diplomatic visa was cancelled and a decision was taken not to issue any visa to him to enter the United States.

The Hillary Clinton's grand design was then known as "Get Narendra Modi' plan developed under strict supervision of Mrs. Clinton to find facts about Modi's alleged involvement in the killing of thousand Muslims in 2002 and bring him to an international court for genocide.

To execute the 'Get Narendra Modi Plan", Secretary Clinton found extensive amount of US dollars to fund a couple of European NGOs who were brought in to the 'Grand Design' to bring down Chief Minister of Gujarat Narendra Modi.

"Hillary Clinton likes to operate through NGOs, which are given funding through indirect channels, and which target individuals and countries seen as less than respectful to her views on foreign and domestic policy in the target countries," a retired US official now based in Atlanta said. He claimed that "rather than US NGOs, (the former) Secretary of State Clinton favored operating through organizations based in the Netherlands, Denmark and the Scandinavian countries, especially Norway" as these were outside the radar of big power politics.

TheAsian Tribune recalls that Secretary Clinton accused Sri Lankan milityary forces of using rape as a weapon on in their offensive against the separatist Tamil Tigers which she, under immense pressure, rescinded it.

These present and retired officials claimed that "during the tenure in office of Secretary Clinton, several expert teams in the guise of NGOs were sent to Gujarat to try and find mass graves". The purpose was to then take the matter to the Office of the UN Commissioner of Human Rights in Geneva as an example of genocide. "In 2011, some bones were discovered in a Gujarat field by one of the search teams and there was much excitement, but these were later found to be buffalo bones", an official said. The official added that "no evidence whatsoever of mass graves was uncovered in Gujarat despite six years of clandestine searching for them" by undercover experts posing as representatives of NGOs. He added that "five politicians, three from the state and two in Delhi, assisted the search teams, but the information given by them proved unproductive".

In fact, currently India's neighbor Sri Lanka faces the same plight: the United States using disputed, half-truth, fabricated and false testimony, reports and counseling from operatives within the Tamil Diaspora - operatives who were once collaborating with the separatist Tamil Tiger terrorism to give 'expert advice', raise funds and help procure weapons - to haul this South Asian nation before the UN Human Rights Council in Geneva moving three consecutive resolutions recent one being last March.

A media reported "Finally, "now that Secretary Clinton had stepped down from office, by end-2012 orders were given to stop wasting time on the search for mass graves in Gujarat, much to the dismay of those NGOs who were getting significant funding as a consequence of the search operations".

Another official, now retired, claimed that "since 2011, several search teams have been active in Punjab, seeking human remains in suspected mass graves". According to them, "key politicians in Punjab have assisted these search teams and on occasion even provided logistical facilities for them".

An article in a recent Sunday Guardian by Madhav Nalapat said " the Obama administration has dialled back on the hectic efforts by Hillary Clinton to paint the Gujarat CM as guilty of mass murder and even genocide. "This is clear from the latest report of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, which has sharply scaled back its criticism of the Modi government as compared to earlier reports". According to a senior official, "President Obama does not share Hillary Clinton's confrontational approach and her preference for Sonia Gandhi, and is looking to establish a pragmatic partnership with India should Modi become the Prime Minister".

But the damage has already done, and under a Narendra Modi premiership there is hardly any room for the Indo-US relationship to improve.

The U.S. government, which has balked at issuing Modi a visa since the riots in which Modi’s people were implicated even though a special investigation cleared him of complicity last year. When asked if the US would decide to restore Mr. Modi's visa, Nish Desai Biswal the assistant secretary for Asia in the State Department replied, primly and properly, that he was free to apply for a visa at any time, the application would be decided on its merits and she could not comment on the outcome.
- Asian Tribune –
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Now for the present: See this
American University Prepares for Riots in India
The University of California at Berkeley has set up a project to “create a policy and protocol framework for protecting people’s rights in situations of internal armed conflict and mass violence” in India.
Their website is http://nonprofit.haas.berkeley.edu/rese ... objectives
Time to publicize this through Teetar and fB?
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UBji, Good call on the new thread
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Mods, Request you to make this thread sticky. Because along with TSP Thread, this thread should also get maximum eyeballs for some time. Most of the people are unaware of the threat the foreign funded NGO's pose. Ulan Batori Ji may be blessed with thousands Yaks, palatial Ger full of Golden Eagles for opening this thread.

Hurting India's GDP by 2-3% is almost criminal and akin to terrorist activity. Question arises why it took BJP in power, for IB to highlight this issue? I remember MMS only once woke from his 10 year slumber to pull UdayKumar, when Kudankulam project was stalled, for the rest of time it was business as usual.
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UlanBatori wrote:Which reminds me of many years ago, when the warning was sounded clearly with facts and references given. Shri Narendra Modi and Shri KPS Gill inaugurated the book.
NGOs Activists and Foreign Funds: Anti National Industry

You can download or read the whole thing online.
NaMo seems to have been around whenever any such topics have been discussed or books released.
IIRC, he had even hand written a letter to Rajiv malhotra acknowledging his book "Breaking India" and remarking what good work it was. Seeing all this, am sure the next 5 years will see a lot of cleanup in background.

Its almost as if a BRFite has been made PM! :shock:
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Apparently the IB had shared its inputs with the previous govt. But they remained silent regarding the menace. Now that NaMo is at the help of affairs, it seems that the IB has revisited the issue. Hoping for decisive executive action against this menace.

It remains to be seen, how the govt responds to this issue.
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Tx. UB.I'm X-posting the same posted in the US td. It is great that the IB is now revea;ling the truth of the matter,which was suppressed by Surrender Singh,as it would deeply embarrass his firang masters.

What BRF has been saying for years! Look at the emphasis on "Western govts.!"

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -a-report/

Foreign-aided NGOs are actively stalling development, IB tells PMO in a report
Written by Amitav Ranjan | New Delhi | June 7, 2014
The NGOs become the central players in setting the agenda, drafting documents, writing in the media, highlighting scholars-turned-activists and lobbying diplomats and government.

As a first step to fast-tracking development high on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s agenda, the Intelligence Bureau (IB) has submitted a classified document identifying several foreign-funded non-governmental organisations (NGOs) that are “negatively impacting economic development”.

“A significant number of Indian NGOs (funded by some donors based in the US, the UK, Germany, The Netherlands and Scandinavian countries) have been noticed to be using people centric issues to create an environment which lends itself to stalling development projects,” says the IB report marked to the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO).


“The negative impact on GDP growth is assessed to be 2-3 per cent per annum,” says the June 3 report, identifying seven sectors/ projects that got stalled because of NGO-created agitations against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, coal-fired power plants, farm biotechnology, mega industrial projects, hydroelectric plants and extractive industries.

While detailing what it calls “anti-development” activities by the NGOs during 2011-13, the 21-page report highlights their plans for 2014 and the areas that would come under pressure. These include a campaign against palm oil imports from Indonesia and disposal of e-waste of Indian IT firms, organising construction workers in urban areas, protests against identified projects such as Gujarat’s Special Investment Regions, Par Tapi Narmada River Interlinking Project and the Delhi-Mumbai Industrial Corridor.

The report says that while caste discrimination, human rights and big dams were earlier chosen by international organisations to discredit India at global forums, the recent shift in the choice of issues was to encourage “growth-retarding campaigns” focused on extractive industries, genetically-modified organisms and foods, climate change and anti-nuclear issues.

According to the report, the funding for such campaigns came from foreign donors under charitable garb for issues ranging from protection of human rights, violence against women, caste discrimination, religious freedom etc or to provide a “just deal” to the project-affected displaced persons or for protection of livelihood of indigenous people.

The NGOs become the central players in setting the agenda, drafting documents, writing in the media, highlighting scholars-turned-activists and lobbying diplomats and government, it says. “These foreign donors lead local NGOs to provide field reports which are used to build a record against India and serve as tools for the strategic foreign policy interests of the Western government,” adds the report.

“The strategy serves its purpose when the funded Indian NGOs provide reports, which are used to internationalise and publicise the alleged violations in international fora. All the above is used to build a record against a country or an individual in order to keep the entity under pressure and under a state of under-development,” says the IB report.

Four NGOs were put under the scanner in 2012 for allegedly fuelling protests against the Kudankulam nuclear project in Tamil Nadu.
The accounts of several Indian NGOs were put in the watch list with regard to allegations of funds diversion, after a discreet probe by security agencies with the help of Directorate of Revenue Intelligence and Central Economic Intelligence Bureau.
So much for PMANE and their treasonable activities led by arch-quisling and US stooge Udayakumar,who tried to win a Lok Sabha seat joining the Ford Foundation party the AAP! I sincerely hope that the new govt. acts with extreme prejudice against these anti-national saboteurs and incarcerate the guilty with landmark sentences to deter future would-be quislings.

Udaykumar's history.Xcpts:
Udayakumar has been a part of the network of activists of the Nuclear Information and Resource Service (NIRS) based in Tacoma Park, Maryland, in the United States. This is how NIRS describes him on its website: “Dr S P Udayakumar (Kumar to his friends) is a longtime leader in the peaceful resistance to nuclear power in India, as well as a leader in the NIRS/WISE international network.’’

The home ministry had recently ensured that his house and institute were raided, accusing him of getting foreign funds for the Kudankulam struggle, a charge he has denied, saying that no funds were needed for fasting people.

Born in Nagercoil in Tamil Nadu, Udayakumar left for the US after his post graduation from Kerala University in 1981. He pursued higher studies there and ended up working in Minnesota. He also worked in Ethiopia before he packed his bags for India. He bought some land in Kanyakumari and started a school and a research centre, settling down there with his wife and two sons.
When he returned to India in 2001, he met with Y David, who had spearheaded the movement previously, and then started PMANE, in Madurai. Now, 11 years later, PMANE is one the largest anti-nuclear energy movements the world has seen, according to NIRS. The police had been asking him to surrender for a year, and already around 500 cases have been lodged against him, mainly on sedition charges.

Arvind Kejriwal, who has been leading anti-corruption protests in Delhi, and who declared his support for the movement, made a surprise announcement that Udayakumar would not surrender at any cost.
More here:
http://www.alphabetics.info/internation ... nts-india/

Can NGOs be Foreign Agents? India Investigates Protests against its Nuclear Plant
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Philip wrote:Foreign-aided NGOs are actively stalling development, IB tells PMO in a report
Written by Amitav Ranjan |

As a first step to fast-tracking development high on Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s agenda, the Intelligence Bureau (IB) has submitted a classified document identifying several foreign-funded non-governmental organisations (NGOs) that are “negatively impacting economic development”.
“The negative impact on GDP growth is assessed to be 2-3 per cent per annum,” says the June 3 report, identifying seven sectors/ projects that got stalled because of NGO-created agitations against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, coal-fired power plants, farm biotechnology, mega industrial projects, hydroelectric plants and extractive industries.
Few observations, The biggest, baddest "NGO" like called NAC and NIC operated directly under Main O Mata and MMS. 2-3% GDP loss a year in last decade calculate somewhere between 475 Billion to 600 Billion $ in growth i.e at least reduction of 450-550$ annual Per Capita Income. This amount could have taken 250-300 Million Indians out of poverty, reduced Children mortality rate,$$ which could have provided health , educational services and building crucial infrastructure.
These NGOs should be charged with causing at least least 20 Million deaths.

Another point is, so called "Indian"American Muslim Council ( More Paki than Paki) is complete silent on GE2014 election results.PM Modi is PNG. Now its no secret that all the worthies in Berkley Group
have/had intimate link with this group and their different Avatars which act like their agent here and on ground in India. These guys need to exposed as national security threat in India and as Islamist terrorism supporting people ( spare tears for Osama) in USA .
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The Kandhamal riots of a couple of years ago, and the UP riots, and probably the Assom riots all may have had NGO hand. For the Kandhamal one, see this article that was written a year before that riot. Same MO - more or less same crowd/organization(s) visited Gujarat b4 Godhra riots, J&K before one set of agitations there, Chattisgarh, probably many more. Need some digging.

May be time to do some exposures on the Berkeley gang. I think their SD Godfathers are maybe on the way out.
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Without naming those NGOs the news paper articles are not credible. they are more like self evident truths.
Further its possible that Hillary is getting the rap for the Modi visa issue. She is out of office since 2012. What was the BO Admin doing all these years? All these US articles from gullible NRI reporters, come only after Modi won the elections!!! Same folks were going hammer and tongs after Modi before the results were declared.
My suggestion is take all these articles with a bucket of salt and see only action.

LKA in his halcyoon days vowed to produce a white paper/report detailing ISI activites and nothing came out and only blackened his face. Again no action.
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OK let me use this thread to ask two-ish questions:

Why do Xtian NGOs ask their volunteers to go for tourist visa as opposed to missionary visa?

Are there specific laws governing foreign NGOs? Specifically what are the means by which they can be prosecuted. Like stating a purpose in their mission but not doing that? Are there any laws for such activities governing NGOs?
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- Tourist visa is easily granted.
In the early 60s there used to be US priests in Nagaland on missionary visas and were part of the rebels. Since then the missionary visa is tightened.
- I dont think there is a NGO law in place.
Cheating and misrepresentation is an IPC offence.
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X-Post from Econ & Tech Forum....
Suraj wrote:The number of stalled projects is mindboggling. Rs.16 lakh crore = $275 billion of stalled investments
Rs 16 lakh crore stalled investment greets Narendra Modi-led BJP govt
As many as 285 projects, involving investment over Rs 16 lakh crore, are pending with the government, part of the legacy the new government has inherited from the UPA. These have been held up either for want of clearance or because of obstacles created as a result of turf wars among various ministries during the UPA regime.

Amid the perception of policy paralysis in turn paralysing the economy during the previous regime, a project monitoring group (PMG) was set up under the cabinet secretariat last June. The PMG, headed by Anil Swarup, an additional secretary-ranked officer, was assigned 437 projects worth over Rs 21 lakh crore. It has resolved issues relating to 152 projects in the last one year, paving the way for investments worth Rs 5.32 lakh crore.

The PMG was given 62 projects to start with, but within months found itself facing a rush from industries seeking resolution of issues in various sectors. By January, the number of projects had crossed 400. Of the 437 that reached the PMG eventually, 342 entail investments over Rs 1,000 crore.

The 437 projects were burdened with about 1,200 issues, say sources briefed about the investments being monitored by the PMG. While most of the stalled investments related to projects in the energy sectors (power, coal and petroleum), the majority of the issues that stalled these investments pertained to the ministries of environment and coal.
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Modi has responded quickly by giving the abovementioned PMG more powers:
Modi gives PMG more teeth
While the present mandate of PMG, which operates as a division under the cabinet secretariat, is to coordinate with line ministries to expedite the required clearances for stuck projects, sources said the new NDA government wants the PMG to go beyond that. In fact, the government is thinking of revamping the entire project clearance mechanism.

"The PMG could be morphed into a different institution. Chances are it will be strengthened," an official told FE, adding the division could continue to remain under the oversight of the cabinet secretariat. It may act as a nodal body that synchronises clearances with similar bodies at the state level.

Already, PMG has been asked to gauge actual investment and production from the projects already cleared so far. "The message has been that we should go beyond clearances and find the actual economic activity —production of goods and services, power generation — after the clearances," said the official.

Since 2013, PMG has facilitated clearance of 150-odd projects involving Rs 6 lakh crore of investment. Despite this, the investment cycle has not seen any upswing and GDP growth remained subdued at 4.7%, a shade higher than the decade's slowest pace of 4.5% recorded in 2012-13.

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Suraj wrote:A full 60% of stalled projects, amounting to around $140 billion, was stuck in either the environment or coal ministry. Jairam Ramesh , Jayanti Natarajan and whoever was the UPA coal minister(s) should be beaten on the head repeatedly about this - they caused a backlog of 7% of GDP worth of investments with their ineptitude.
If IB was so concerned with the stalling of economic growth did they probe the UPA govt ministers and advisers in the NAClite bodies who did even more damage?

And was this slowdown in the coal, power and environment sector to create an electrical power crisis in India and cause import of US power reactors?


And Jairam ramesh is allowed to meet Arun Jaitley even after the UAP lost elections!!!
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UlanBatori wrote:Which reminds me of many years ago, when the warning was sounded clearly with facts and references given. Shri Narendra Modi and Shri KPS Gill inaugurated the book.
NGOs Activists and Foreign Funds: Anti National Industry

You can download or read the whole thing online.
Nostalgic sir. The small kid who wrote chapters 4 and 5 did a lot of hard work a decade ago and I remember being associated in a tiny way. It is a great feeling when the NSA calls it out and say these are culprits.
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Namaskaram Muppallaji. 8)

(Although, believe me, I am so relieved that those days ended) :eek:

ramana and neela:
- Tourist visa is easily granted.
In the early 60s there used to be US priests in Nagaland on missionary visas and were part of the rebels. Since then the missionary visa is tightened.
- I dont think there is a NGO law in place.
Cheating and misrepresentation is an IPC offence.
Some time back the web pages of the Jubilee Baptist Church (particularly famous for its activities) gave very specific instructions to "tourists" on WHICH Indian Consulate they should hit for the "tourist visa" - and then how to go about reaching the EJ training/orientation camps.

So as with many things in desh, (a) yes, there are laws (b) yes, there are rules that the babus are supposed to follow and (c) yes, there were completely corrupt ones who would break the law for some baksheesh or whatever.

ramana: Time to list the NGOs? The article on HC did not come after the election: Madhav Nalappat wrote in the Guardian circa April, when no one incl. moi was willing to bet on an outright BeeJayPee win. The Asian Times re-published that after NaMO came to power, BUT, the part I deleted was the critical part of that article: it was all about how Sri Lanka should go about its strategic interests now that NaMO had come to power, and how SL could break out of the NGO attack on SL.

The Berkeley scam was of course reported here first, and that was way b4 the election, as you know. I have a SLIGHT tinge of suspicion that this was correlated to the IB's sudden zeal.

Concerns about the role of BOTH Clintons have been expressed from way back - both apparently have extreme EJ tendencies. One just indulged in it through the AIF etc, the other, as we hear, blatantly abused her power. I think the funding of the Berkeley scam, with its blatantly anti-India staffing and objectives, occurred under her regime.

So it may be appropriate to award HC the title of NaMaM (Namak HaraaM). Indians hosted her with grace and genuine affection, and she kicks us in the teeth in return. I know some Americans who voted for BO who will NOT vote for HC. Even Palin would be preferable.
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Sri Lanka has suffered drastically from the NGO infiltration and subversion.The govt. of Chandrika,well-meaning engaged the Norwegians after the Middle East Oslo Accord .It was almost a fatal mistake,as the Norwegians are the US's diplomatic version of "contractors".The joker,Erik Solheim,who was the chief negotiator,was disgraced MP involved in a sleazy scandal involving E.European prostitutes.This joker ,who lived off the fat of the island,and was a parasite for many years achieving nothing but fattening himself,now wants to get involved again "testifying" against SL for human rights abuses! The Norwegian cease-fire monitors were slumming themselves in east coast hotels with local beauties allegedly supplied by the LTTE! After duping the CBK govt.,the Rajapakse regime after a failed attempt to assassinate Githabhaya,,the president's brother now def. sec.,and threatened to cut off water supplies to the east,realised that extermination of the LTTE was the only way to restore peace to the island and set about it in single-minded fashion.The rest as they say is history.

However,the NGOs have not yet been tamed.Smarting at the impudence of Rajapakse and family in defying western diktat that Fuhrer Prabhakaran and his key council had to be spared and airlifted to safety courtesy the USN,defying the foreign ministers of both Britain and France,who flew down to read the GOSL the riot act,the insidious EJwestern powers are relentlessly attempting to corner the GOSL on human rights abuses,etc.,etc.At work are insidious EJ outfits who have easy sway in the tolerant Lankan tradition of a multi-religious society where there are any number of non-mainstream "Christian" outfits existing .How many of them are engaged in treasonable activities is a moot Q.But almost all NGOs in Lanka are funded well by the west,who use them as unofficial native "agents' on the ground. In India,the spread of these outfits especially in the tolerant south has been systematic,as we've seen with the attempts to sabotage the KKNPP N-plant,thanks to PMANE,Udayakumar and the "church". There should be no mercy for those engaged in sedition and treason against the Indian state.Those NGOs acting in the interests of foreign powers should be booted out,suffer the penalties of their anti-Indian activities.
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anmol please work with UB on this;
Concerns about the role of BOTH Clintons have been expressed from way back - both apparently have extreme EJ tendencies.
I can bet you Publicans will give first born to sink the unsinkable Molly!

This goes against separation of church and state!!!!
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Haathi Parivar cannot touch this, can they? If they paint Mohterma Slick Willie as a Crusader, it would make her a Jean d'Arc to millions. Might lose the election on that one issue. Evil 6th Coujin already tried planting the seed in Haathi ears about the Devyani issue.

Trick is to see what else these NGOs funded. If they agitated against development, that could be used as example of the commie tendencies of the Gaddha Parivar.
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With respect to unusually high media reporting and dramatization of rapes in India and demeaning, what is the source/backing in your view?
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Don't know, beyond spreading the general notion that Majority Injuns (== yindoo heathain) are evil. Seems a convoluted way to "get" Modi with the "crimes against wimmens in 2002" theme started by A. Roy. Perhaps the grand plan was to incite major riots in India, then amplify the noise about crimes against wimmens, push conversion and destroy yindoo power.

On that topic, did u notice that there has been a sudden U-turn by See Enn Enn? Stories changed to ppl going to desh to have sindoor put on their foreheads and generally having a great time. Timing seems strange - right after ppl here started posting lists of See Enn Enn rape-raconteurs, on Teetar.
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Or maybe to generate more agitations by wimmens, with some more violence generated. Say a stray shot comes from somewhere in the general vicinity, and takes down a police officer. Police disperse crowd with lathis. :(( :(( General chaos spreads. Berkeley project.
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http://www.afhd.org/assocdb.php?mode=vi ... ize=20&p=1


A partial list of India operating NGOs is here.

Added later: this seems to reflect only 4,594 NGOs operating in Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh, Andaman & Nicobar and Assam! I wonder if they will be updating the list for other states.

Gives some idea of the magnitude of the problem- fumbling for (poisoned) needles in a haystack.
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Strangely, I was approached by greenpeace activists in a Chennai IT park, trolling their wares openly.
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Why is it that only western NGOs like Amnesty,etc.preach to the rest of the non-white world about human rights,etc.? The rest of the world,NAM,should fund their own NGO equivalent to document the immense war crimes of the US.NATO in Iraq,Afghanistan,Libya,etc. and demand the trial of the leaders responsible for those atrocities.Otherwise boot out Amnesty,etc.!
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Rudradev wrote:http://www.afhd.org/assocdb.php?mode=vi ... ize=20&p=1


A partial list of India operating NGOs is here.

Added later: this seems to reflect only 4,594 NGOs operating in Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh, Andaman & Nicobar and Assam! I wonder if they will be updating the list for other states.

Gives some idea of the magnitude of the problem- fumbling for (poisoned) needles in a haystack.
Wow..that is an awefully long list of all sorts of NGOs is handleful of states, the good, bad, and ugly. Why not keep fresh and juicy list of the distinguished names on non-BRF website for everyone to know what a wunderfool work they are doing?

http://indianngos.org/ngos-directory.aspx

This one claims to have 40,000 very useful Naan Govi Org names
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http://indianexpress.com/article/india/ ... -security/
IB report to PMO: Greenpeace is a threat to national economic security
While several NGOs are named in the IB’s 21-page report, that lists seven sectors/projects that got stalled because of NGO-created agitations against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, coal-fired power plants, farm biotechnology, mega industrial projects, hydroelectric plants and extractive industries, the main international one singled out for criticism is Greenpeace.

Throughout, the IB report sees Greenpeace as the prime mover of mass-based movements against development projects. “It is assessed to be posing a potential threat to national economic security… growing exponentially in terms of reach, impact, volunteers and media influence,” it notes. The efforts are focused on “ways to create obstacles in India’s energy plans” and to “pressure India to use only renewable energy”.

The report also accuses Greenpeace, “actively aided and led by foreign activists visiting India”, of violating the provisions of the Foreign Contribution (Regulation) Act of 2010 (FCRA), and financing “sympathetic studies” at the Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS) and at IIT-Delhi.
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X-post for reference and scale of economic and social impact.
Suraj wrote:Modi sticks to minimum govt, disbands 4 cabinet committees
On Tuesday evening, he discontinued four Standing Committees of the Cabinet -- Cabinet Committee on Management of Natural Calamities, Cabinet Committee on Prices, Cabinet Committee on World Trade Organisation Matters, Cabinet Committee on Unique Identification Authority of India related issues.

Again these committees were formed by Manmohan Singh as each of these issues became contentious or acquired urgency at different points in time but instead of hastening the decision making process, it shifted the responsibility of decision making and accountability. Instead of taking a position on those contentious issues, Singh's constitution of these Cabinet committees or GoMs came as useful alibis to buy time, or perhaps peace among warring ministers.
UPA2's biggest scam is not the coalgate or 2G scam. It's the governance deficit scam. Cost: over $500 billion in total lost annual economic output over 5 years.

Soniajis' NAClites led by Jairam Ramesh & Jayanthi Natarajan enabled these NGOs to scuttle Indian economy to the tune of $500B or $0.5T annual economic output which would have lifted many millions above teh poverty line.
And they still have the headweight to walk into FM and give advice!
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Amnesty International is the top NGO that works for terrorists around the world.
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SanjayC wrote:Paid media has started an orchestrated campaign to discredit the IB report on NGOs. What a coincidence -- while the IB report was leaked a couple of days before, all TV channels start the campaign today all at once and all of them are interviewing people who ridicule the IB for publishing the report. Maybe the funding sources of both the NGOs and the TV channels are exactly the same.
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I think Media is using Greenpeace as a rallying cry, they are under scanner but want to shoot over greepeace's shoulders. It is a war between thee Central Govt and certain media organisations
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The IB report is like "duh?" Look at the record:
Narmada Dam: delayed for at least a decade, on every day of which, the villagers in Kutch etc had to walk miles carrying pots of water while the likes of Angana and Arundhati sipped Perrier from their plastic bottles. The reports of the villagers weeping in relief and gratitude as (their government!!!!) eventually opened the canals carrying clear water, were the most undeniable, damning condemnation imaginable of these traitors.
KoodamKulam Nuclear Power Plant: still in obstruction? India NEEDS those plants operating, generating not just power for development, but the fuel to enable the Thorium economy. Needs 40 more Kudamkulams, ASAP!!
Golden Quadrilateral: Has it moved since May 2004?

Now the Aadhar project is under heavy attack, BECAUSE... one effect of giving every citjen an ID is to say:
U R a Citjen of Bharat. U count. U have rights, and the GUVRMAND recognizes that, U don't need to join agitations.
I have a suspicion, hopefully correct, that Aadhar gets the credit for some part of the spike in actual voting. Think about it. A card identifying you, with the seal of Bharat and the 3 Lions on it. Your very own. No need to be afraid.

One effect may be that finally, in Malloostan, the ppl have got disgusted enough to kick out the corrupt Polis Babu and bring in Mr. Sridharan to get their Metro done. I recently saw that its COMPLETION was delayed SIX MONTHS. Wow! 6 months is not enough for Malloostan to advance the "national goatway 47" by even one kilometer, while in 3 months the roads laid by their corrupt Con-Tractors revered to becoming goat-tracks.

Speaking of NGOs, I think Chatterji was funded by the Three Rivers Foundation. I bet NBA got funding from Ford Foundation and others. Lots of EJ type activity may have been funded from PRC, via US, through entities such as Oberlin Foundation. EJ activity in the tribal areas of Guj, Jharkand etc may be linked to Action Aid. Now Action Aid, if you check with blinders on, appears squeaky-clean, totally secular except that it employed execs like the Former IAS Harsh Mander (see "NGOS.." book linked above, and also present affiliation with Berkeley Project). But if you hunt ActionAid + Christian Aid, you may find what I found with no trouble at all: documented proof of the "+".

Also if you trace back to those who gloated when NM was denied a vija, u will find the tracks of those who were behind that now-seen-as-super-brilliant Tactical Brilliance. I mean, ignore the Is**** appearances, they were just the front.
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And it might be instructive to look at who in the media was most :(( :(( in reporting on the agitations from strictly the agitators' pov.
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I had never given money to these NGO's anyway, but today greenpeace guys approached me in MG road, I just asked them about IB report, they got shocked, but quickly gathered wits, and started arguing that government wants to stop the good work. When I pointed out, that even in building clothes you are wearing, power is needed, which is getting generated by power plants, they just ran away. :D
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Nitesh wrote:I had never given money to these NGO's anyway, but today greenpeace guys approached me in MG road, I just asked them about IB report, they got shocked, but quickly gathered wits, and started arguing that government wants to stop the good work. When I pointed out, that even in building clothes you are wearing, power is needed, which is getting generated by power plants, they just ran away. :D
Bravo Nitesh
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Some outing-shouting has happened here as I see.
I got a mail from greenpeace (I am on their list since many years as I had made a donation in ~1999). The mail appeals to take a stand. I wrote back saying that I agree with the IB's report.
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Couple of years back news came out about Ambanis becoming founding members of Heritage Foundation, a think tank. Unfortunately I can't find anything on it..
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UlanBatori wrote:Or maybe to generate more agitations by wimmens, with some more violence generated. Say a stray shot comes from somewhere in the general vicinity, and takes down a police officer. Police disperse crowd with lathis. :(( :(( General chaos spreads. Berkeley project.
Berkeley Project 2nd cousin of Joshua Project. :?:
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