symontk wrote:RajeshA wrote:Divorce rate in the West or even Saudi Arabia is directly proportional to the level of respect a woman is accorded!
Once freedom is given to women, we would see divorce rates shooting up. Kerala is a good example
Also divorce is not a disrespect to women, in certain cases to save them the respect, divorce might be necessary
Somehow the logic escapes me! So Hindu men are beating their women so incessantly, that the woman cannot avail of any opportunity to run away and file for divorce! Or have we locked them up in the houses, lest they escape?
Basically this is the message that is being sent out: Freedom's main measure is the divorce rate! The reason we Hindu men and Hindu women stick together is because Hindu women have no freedom! Mutual love and respect don't seem to play any role in keeping marriages together!
Is the high divorce rate in Saudi Arabia also a consequence of high level of freedom for the women?
It is not any high level of freedom in the West, that is the cause of high divorce rates, but rather the
Religion of Individualism, which hinders people from bonding properly with one another. For the same reason, one sees many children among couples who choose to live together but not marry. Marriage is considered a step in bonding, which trespasses on their "Individualism"!
Non-commitment and
Transactionality in Western society is often called "Freedom"!
You may unknowingly be calling Hindu men and Hindu women's commitment to the institution of marriage as lack of freedom! Hindu commitment to institution of marriage may seem unrealistic to those who view Indians from Western eyes, but for Hindus it is normal.
symontk wrote:RajeshA wrote: Cheating on one's wife is another measure! Number of half-sibling relationships is another measure! Sexual harassment at workplace and in public places can also be seen as lack of respect. P0rn0graphy, prostitution, use of female bodies for advertisement, are all useful measures.
Really, do you think India would come in great colors in these indexes? Don't count only Internet Prawnagraphy alone, Also are you reading news, articles and advts, of some newspapers in India?
This game always proceeds this way!
1) Curse Indian society as its sores are most eagerly shown by Secular media!
2) Call all the sores as intrinsic to Hindu society and symbolic of its institutional backwardness.
3) Call upon Hindus to adopt more Western prescriptions!
Sure there is much degeneration in Hindu society, but this should not lead us to points 2) and 3)! The sores are a
consequence of ravaging of Hindu society by Islam, European Colonialism, Nehruvian Apathy and Imported Western Cultural Corruption, and also due to lack of strong Hindu leadership for centuries!
And of course Hindu Samaj needs to be revitalized, but West here has neither the moral authority to pass judgments on us nor to prescribe any solutions, not only because West's history betrays its lack of any moral standing and it does so for propaganda reasons but more importantly because West is itself a failed social model!