Sunni Terrorist Fragments of Unstable Pakistan - 19 Jul 2014

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Jul 2014 12:48

CRamS wrote:ArunJi,
Fair didi has it almost right, but for this:
For Pakistan, defeat is that moment when it can no longer resist India
Its not about resisting India, because India is not doing anything to TSP for it offer any resistance, but rather, for TSP, defeat is that moment when it can no longer brazenly provoke India and get away with it.

CRS, I have to disagree with you on the part that "India is not doing anything to TSP for it to resist" and agree with Ms. Fair. The mere existence of India is resistance to Pakistan. How can a kafir land face a glorious army of Believers and not only survive but also thrive and, worse, inflict defeats?

IMHO, there are multiple facets of Pakistani actions and thinking that lend multiple interpretations such as Ms. Fair's and yours. They are not wrong because we are the Seven Blind Men of Hindoostan figuring out en elephant. The Pakistani narrative has meandered and assumed (or at least presented to the external world) different appearances at different times. For example, is J&K an issue of Muslims not joining a Muslim Pakistan (however flawed that argument is), or is it a question of Pakistani irredentism, or is it to protect its water sources or is it to act as a buffer to Rawalpindi etc, or is it all of these? Pakistan has at various times presented these various arguments internationally.

However, I think that there is a very basic Islamist idea that wants to keep Pakistani arms at the Indian throat for ever. That idea is that 'only power, political & military, helps in establishing God's Law'. The loss of Muslim power, both in India and later in Turkey, agitated the Indian Muslims. Many believe that the Deoband (excluding people like Usmani who broke away) opposed the British to get India Independence but the motive was very ulterior. JI's Maulana Mawdudi has very openly and categorically said that. It is thus the entire Islamic literature speaks of Muslim lands as Dar-ul-Aman and the rest as Dar-ul-harb. The continued exhibition by the Muslims of a 'minority and persecution complexes' in one of the most liberal countries is a manifestation of this idea of power too. Gnaw your way through and incrementally acquire more power even if you cannot do it in one stroke through a war. It is this urge for power in the greater cause of Islam that could explain the change in attitude of some from being an 'Indian nationalist' to a 'separatist', as greater understanding of Islam dawned on them. The architects of Pakistan such as Iqbal, Sayyid Ahmed Khan, Raja of Mahmudabad understood this. Later, Islamists like Mawdudi et al propagated that.

My point therefore is that Ms. Fair may be right even if she did not anchor her argument on an Islamist perspective (I have not yet gone through that interview).

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 27 Jul 2014 15:34

^^not much to it SS. It is a rehash of what she said at Hudson, Wilson, etc... Nothing new really.

I agree with above. The existence of India in its democratic (and therefore Hindu-dominant) configuration is "resistance". Hence only if above is rendered non-existent to Pakistan's satisfaction will Pakistan stop its war against India.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 27 Jul 2014 17:27

SSridhar wrote: My point therefore is that Ms. Fair may be right even if she did not anchor her argument on an Islamist perspective (I have not yet gone through that interview).

I am 20% through her book as of now. She has done a very good job. It would be simplistic for her to simply blame Islamism. She has figured out all the grievances that Pakis have and all their problems and, in fact has sussed out what many but not all of us on BRF know and what few want to believe - that is that the nation's leaders are hardly rational and are in a semi-delusional state where constant enmity with India is their only plan for the future.

Unless we in India understand this we will continuously come up with idiotic non solutions like "peace", "talks" or "deal with Pakistan like America does"

There is no cure for Pakistan, short or long term. We have to and will grow despite Pakistan. My only hope is that we ignore them as far as we can even if they sink into chaos an not even blow a fart towards them if it gives them relief. That will be easier if foreign powers do not use groups within Pakistan to fight India, Ultimately our only insurance against Pakistan is to grow so much that countries who might use Pakistan, even if it is the US or China are scared of what India will do and how much trouble will fall on their laps unless they act in a way that dos not aggravate Pakistani paranoia against India and increasingly towards the rest of the world

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 27 Jul 2014 21:17

I am not sure how big slumbad city is in comparison to any Indian city. But it just has 1 cinema?

Islamabad’s only cinema sealed for screening movies at ‘Iftar time’

The district administration on Saturday sealed Cineplex, the only cinema in the federal capital located at Centaurus Mall, and arrested five of its employees for screening movies at ‘Iftar time’.

The administration closed the cinema for an indefinite period under the Ehteram-i-Ramazan Ordinance, which prohibits screening of movies during Iftar and Taraveeh.

The fun-starved people of the federal capital expressed their fear that they would be deprived of entertainment during Eid days as Islamabad has no other cinema.

Islamabad used to have three cinemas: Nafdec, Melody and Sitara Market, which were closed due to various reasons, including riots, in which the Melody Cinema was burnt.

“Being a citizen, I have serious concerns about the closure of the cinema. I will request the authorities concerned to open the cinema for Eid, as in the federal capital we have no alternative source of entertainment,” said Mohammad Ishtiaq, a frequent customer to the Centaurus Shopping Mall.

Brad Goodman · Post by **Brad Goodman** » 27 Jul 2014 21:26

aache din aane wale hai

No-go areas in the garrison city of Rawalpindi

With no decrease in the crime ongoing in the holy month of Ramazan, the residents who are going to other cities to celebrate Eid are worried about their belongings that they would leave home.While purse snatching, kidnapping, armed robberies, dacoities, and car thefts have become part of the daily routine, another very serious security dimension involving terrorism has been added to the episode. The police, as usual, cannot help but watch the entire situation as a silent spectator.Shocking incidents of crime are being reported every day. ‘For a change,’ this time, a recent eye-opening incident involving terrorism is narrated here. In the wake of terrorist attacks on the country’s major cities by the notorious militant group TTP, a report of a secret agency dropped a bombshell recently that the TTP has established a stronghold in the garrison city of Rawalpindi and may cause catastrophe by attacking the Benazir International Airport and GHQ any time, operating from their base in Rawalpindi. While the country’s top leadership has directed for strict action against the TTP, the secret agencies have informed the Interior Ministry that a notorious group of militants have managed to make a stronghold in the city and have the capability to strike the GHQ and the Benazir International Airport. The TTP has infiltrated into the garrison city and has established strongholds in various localities that have been declared no-go areas for the residents. The militants have gained the capability of striking anywhere in the twin cities, at any time, operating from its base from Rawalpindi, stated a report of a secret agency that was submitted to the Interior Ministry.According to the report, the TTP has established no-go areas in the city where no one is allowed to enter except people of a particular ethnic group. The criminal hub has become a ‘territorially locked’ area where a common man cannot move freely with his own free will, as per the order of a TTP commander. A secret report, which was recently submitted to the Ministry of Interior, identified illegal activities going on in Kuta Gali, a locality of Rehmatabad. Report claimed that it is impossible for a common man to enter in the said street. When a stranger visits the area, the people start investigating that where he had come from and where he wanted to go. The report said that the killing of innocent people on lame excuses is rampant and these people have been reportedly involved in the criminal activities and the local police do not take any action against the said group for reasons best known to them. The report also disclosed that chits are being issued for Bhatta from the same street and a large number of car lifters are also hiding there. The report also added that the same street is a source of sale of alcohol, heroin, and other drugs. Some police officers also confirmed that the no-go areas do exist in the Rehmatabad, while others claimed that the entire Rehmatabad had become a no-go area. On the other hand, the SDPO and SHO have no knowledge about the issue of the no-go area. Interior Minister Nisar Ali Khan has strictly ordered the district and the police administration of the twin cities to keep the security of the sensitive locations extremely tight, and carry out surprise search operations in the adjoining areas of the Benazir Bhutto International Airport.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 27 Jul 2014 21:33

shiv wrote:
SSridhar wrote:

...an not even blow a fart towards them if it gives them relief. That will be easier if foreign powers do not use groups within Pakistan to fight India, Ultimately our only insurance against Pakistan is to grow so much that countries who might use Pakistan, even if it is the US or China are scared of what India will do and how much trouble will fall on their laps unless they act in a way that dos not aggravate Pakistani paranoia against India and increasingly towards the rest of the world

not even with a fart machine?

http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/features/ ... at-france/

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2014 22:29

SSridhar wrote:
CRamS wrote:ArunJi,
It is this urge for power in the greater cause of Islam that could explain the change in attitude of some from being an 'Indian nationalist' to a 'separatist', as greater understanding of Islam dawned on them. The architects of Pakistan such as Iqbal, Sayyid Ahmed Khan, Raja of Mahmudabad understood this. Later, Islamists like Mawdudi et al propagated that.

Basically pakiallah lost his marble, balls and rest in India. If Afghanistan is graveyard of empires, India is the graveyard or cremation ground of dry dogmatic delusional religions. But i want to ask, Why did UPA let the dog litter of Raja of Mamudabad to come back to India and make claim on property?

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 27 Jul 2014 22:36

[quote="Cosmo_R""shiv"]

SSridhar wrote: ...an not even blow a fart towards them if it gives them relief. That will be easier if foreign powers do not use groups within Pakistan to fight India, Ultimately our only insurance against Pakistan is to grow so much that countries who might use Pakistan, even if it is the US or China are scared of what India will do and how much trouble will fall on their laps unless they act in a way that dos not aggravate Pakistani paranoia against India and increasingly towards the rest of the world

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This was the idea behind having 10t plus actual economy,5-7 million men army, few thousand operational strategic Maal and a stubborn PM known for pretending to acting first and thinking later famous for using hammer to kill the coakroaches.Thanks to MianManmohanS, India have to wait bit extra to accomplish this necessary objective.

dnivas · Post by **dnivas** » 28 Jul 2014 01:06

Gagan wrote:
More on the Herrow of the week "Lauda Khan"
http://disqus.com/laudakhan/
Lauda Khan

I am teach english in Govt College Faislabad, Pakistan. I am also keep lot of interest in news, politics and sakespear, sheli, wordworth, longfelo, Allama Iqbal etc

Faislabad, Pakistan
Bismillah! Please notice the halal picture of Lauda Khan
Also read the various comments that this Paki genius has posted

Brilliant lauda!!!..

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 28 Jul 2014 01:29

"@SaleemudDinAA: Right now as I write this an #Ahmadis house is being burnt in front of police in people's colony Gujranwala while police is doing nothing."

"@SaleemudDinAA: With multiple reassurances the situation on the ground is worsening. Another house on fire while police more in numbers is doing nothing."

"@SaleemudDinAA: 3 Ahmadis gave there lives in the way of Allah today 55 year old Bashiran Bibi, 7 year old Hira & her sister Kainat. Please pray."

....

"@RanaaMujahid: See how the bigots are celebrating after burning Ahmadi houses in #Gujranwala #RIPhumanity
@SaleemudDinAA @TahirImran http://t.co/TpVIsA2Mqp"

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 28 Jul 2014 03:34

Pakistan ka Matlab Kya? Severe loss of H&D HaHah!

During a recent visit to Washington, a group of Pakistani journalists were offended when an Arab journalist politely told them that his government had asked him not to mix up with Pakistanis. Asked why, he said: “Most Pakistanis have links with terrorist groups.”

Pakistanis living in the West often have similar experiences when they try to befriend people from other Muslim nations. Muslims in other regions – from Egypt to Indonesia and North Africa to Central Asia – equate Pakistan with terrorism, not Islam.

Terrorists who attacked the United States on Sept. 11, 2001, were all Arabs, mostly Saudis or Saudi-inspired, but few blame Saudi Arabia. Pakistan gets the blame because in their eagerness to display their Islamic credentials, many Pakistanis openly express their sympathies with these jihadi groups.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 28 Jul 2014 04:31

arun wrote:Indrani Bagchi interviews C Christine Fair:

So now Christine Fair motorma is giving gyaan to SDREs about Pakistan?

Not so long ago the same motorma was making a case as to why a nuclear deal should be given to Pakistan, else they'd feel their H&D has been violated vis-a-vis India's nuke deal. The No 1 supplier of Arms, Ammunition and Money to Pakistan is Unkil. The No 1 supporter of various Pakistani dictators is also Unkil. The no 1 reason why all India-Pakistan "escalations" after spectacular terror attacks by Pakistan have been "managed" is also Unkil. The No 1 victim of unkil supplied Arms and Paki bred terrorists and CIA assisted ISI are the SDREs.

Now Ms Fair wants to educate the SDREs on Pakistan's perfidious ways. We should listen to her.

Nevertheless, one shouldnt look a gift horse in the mouth. More people in the world get educated about Pakistan, the better.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Jul 2014 06:16

How come that I do not see a Pakistani in the Commonwealth Games weightlifting? I thought they were FATA and could easily lift hundreds of Kgs but the SDRE wimmens are dominating. In shooting too, the SDRE Indian men & wimmens are doing well and none from FATA (save a lone men's contender who got eliminated very early on). Sharm.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 28 Jul 2014 07:55

Jhujar wrote:
Basically pakiallah lost his marble, balls and rest in India. If Afghanistan is graveyard of empires, India is the graveyard or cremation ground of dry dogmatic delusional religions. But i want to ask, Why did UPA let the dog litter of Raja of Mamudabad to come back to India and make claim on property?

Our Sickular hero JLN bade him to come back. To make it worse he married the daughter of the then Foreign Secretry, Jagat Mehta. His progeny are in the usual professions plying their trade. He was a Shia, made the right move in the nick of time.

As an observation, it seems a lots of UP Ashrafs were Shia, similar to the punjabi landlords of Jhang. The Sunni backlash is somewhat similar to the Maovadi movement in east India to bring the Zamindar class to bring them to ground.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jul 2014 08:04

Anujan wrote: So now Christine Fair motorma is giving gyaan to SDREs about Pakistan?

Fair does not mince words - she does not say "misleading" when real word is "lies" She has figured out Paki psyche perfectly - and I think there is something for a whole bunch of Indians in government (politicians, bureaucrats and the armed forces) to learn. It will be our loss if they don't.

We need to stop following pointless policies towards Pakistan. We have said that time and again on BRF and here is an entire well researched book that lists out the reasons about why some policies are totally pointless.

partha · Post by **partha** » 28 Jul 2014 08:36

From UnFair's interview -

What most people don't know is Senator Levin put in a proviso in FY 2015 that says if the Pakistanis don't do an operation in North Waziristan we're not going to give them $300 or $900 million. Now that they are done with this operation, the Pakistanis are making an argument in Washington DC that they should be given continued coalition support.

This is outrageous. They are creating and sustaining an insurgency , then they ask for compensation to protect the border. They're actually asking for money to protect them from their own Frankenstein's monster.

Will America give in?
I think they will. The irony is this: the Americans will help them kill as many terrorists as they will let them. But the Americans won't make them stop producing more terrorists. They (Pakistanis) have taken $30 billion from us, they still kill our troops and we still pay the cheques. Osama bin Laden was in Abbottabad and still the cheques are coming.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jul 2014 09:28

shiv wrote:
Anujan wrote: So now Christine Fair motorma is giving gyaan to SDREs about Pakistan?
Fair does not mince words - she does not say "misleading" when real word is "lies" She has figured out Paki psyche perfectly - and I think there is something for a whole bunch of Indians in government (politicians, bureaucrats and the armed forces) to learn. It will be our loss if they don't.

We need to stop following pointless policies towards Pakistan. We have said that time and again on BRF and here is an entire well researched book that lists out the reasons about why some policies are totally pointless.

Shiv,

Ms Fair has a bullhorn and she appears to choose to use it to amplify the way the wind is blowing. Not mincing words, at times, can be lack of tact and maturity, if turned on ahead of the crowd.

The large-denomination-bill question is whether she is obscuring the direction of the wind or highlighting it? Is there an answer beyond the-withdrawal-in-2014? People like this are not "let loose". This is one person, gaining no currency, generally speaking. If the argument is reasonable, where is the echo chamber.

Apologies for being dense. This matter has not passed my litmus tests yet. When the afg. he presidency situation is clearer and garrison sizes are firm, only then will the rest of the "journalists" and "think tanks" likely follow suit and pick a side. Everyone may well be currently confused due to the short time to the mid-terms and the utter lack of foreign policy.

2np.

arun · Post by **arun** » 28 Jul 2014 10:03

Brad Goodman wrote: ……………….. Islamabad’s only cinema sealed for screening movies at ‘Iftar time’ ……………………..

Mohammaddenism can criminalise the most innocuous of things

. Screening movies during the time of “Iftar”(i.e. meal eaten after sunset during month of Ramazan aka Ramadan) and” Taraveeh” (i.e. night time prayers during month of Ramazan aka Ramadan ) is apparently a crime in the Islamic Republic Of Pakistan

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Excerpt from article in Dawn posted by Brad Goodman:

ISLAMABAD: The district administration on Saturday sealed Cineplex, the only cinema in the federal capital located at Centaurus Mall, and arrested five of its employees for screening movies at ‘Iftar time’.

The administration closed the cinema for an indefinite period under the Ehteram-i-Ramazan Ordinance, which prohibits screening of movies during Iftar and Taraveeh.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jul 2014 10:04

Shreeman wrote:
Ms Fair has a bullhorn and she appears to choose to use it to amplify the way the wind is blowing. Not mincing words, at times, can be lack of tact and maturity, if turned on ahead of the crowd.

The large-denomination-bill question is whether she is obscuring the direction of the wind or highlighting it? Is there an answer beyond the-withdrawal-in-2014? People like this are not "let loose". This is one person, gaining no currency, generally speaking. If the argument is reasonable, where is the echo chamber.

Apologies for being dense. This matter has not passed my litmus tests yet. When the afg. he presidency situation is clearer and garrison sizes are firm, only then will the rest of the "journalists" and "think tanks" likely follow suit and pick a side. Everyone may well be currently confused due to the short time to the mid-terms and the utter lack of foreign policy.

2np.

Shreeman - this is a view that is totally from the American side.

Fair's book need not be looked at from the view of what it offers America or Americans. It is about what information it offers India and Indians. Indians need to read the book and judge it after reading. Simply follow the same standards demanded of Pakis and secularists about "Satanic Verses". Of course we may well treat it like Satanic Verses - dismiss it without reading.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jul 2014 10:24

shiv wrote:
Shreeman wrote:
.... 2np....etc.
Shreeman - this is a view that is totally from the American side.

Fair's book need not be looked at from the view of what it offers America or Americans. It is about what information it offers India and Indians. Indians need to read the book and judge it after reading. Simply follow the same standards demanded of Pakis and secularists about "Satanic Verses". Of course we may well treat it like Satanic Verses - dismiss it without reading.

Shiv,

The comparison with the Verses is a good fit. I am still puzzled by the timing. The prose has attracted the usual audience stateside and languishes without attention,

http://www.amazon.com/Fighting-End-The- ... ewpoints=1

note the "we should get rid of this now" sales approach. Sometimes, I wonder if this was even ghost-written.

Anyway, entirely off topic, and I dont have much else to add for now. Back to the business of the thread.

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jul 2014 10:33

moar was spent on the memorial than raised by the flight. A cynic may wonder if the insurance will now open 1000 moar madrassas. What possibly could be a better memorial?

Did I note that there are 1,000 madsrassas in bakistan? No, well then it merits a mention.

ps - who pays the coast guard bill here? Even if you dont die, the SAR bill can be quite high depending upon the area. People often resort to private searches when official resources die down.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 28 Jul 2014 10:41

Shreeman wrote:moar was spent on the memorial than raised by the flight. A cynic may wonder if the insurance will now open 1000 moar madrassas. What possibly could be a better memorial?

Did I note that there are 1,000 madsrassas in bakistan? No, well then it merits a mention.

ps - who pays the coast guard bill here? Even if you dont die, the SAR bill can be quite high depending upon the area. People often resort to private searches when official resources die down.

Coast Guard aircraft is paid for by the DRI Directorate of Revenue Intelligence

kancha · Post by **kancha** » 28 Jul 2014 10:49

Brad Goodman wrote: ……………….. Islamabad’s only cinema sealed for screening movies at ‘Iftar time’ ……………………..

The comments by Pakis on this one are a MUST READ!

I don't see any reason for creating this fuss if its closed for iftar time. What's the problem?

Even though I am against imposing religion on others, I still think screening movies at iftar time in Pakistan is disrespectful. I live in Manchester and I know of several instances where english people have fasted as a mark of respect for their friends. It is your choice if you fast or not but you have to respect values of the country you live in

Dawn publishing an article blog against Ramzan transmission spoiling the core context of Ramzan, but on the other hand there is the news on a cinema being closed for showing movies during Aftaar time. What exactly is your editorial policy, Dawn?

You live in West and yet you don't understand the basic rule of democracy and law making in a society i.e. majority rules in a democracy and make laws as well. It is a law that has been broken by the Cinema admin, a law that is only applicable for 30 days!!! I fully support the officials.

All those saying religion is thier personal matter and there are non-muslims in this country, lets not forget that DC has acted according the powers vested upon him by the law. when it comes to taliban you liberals say carry an operation against them. they dont accept law and are GHADDAR. Well screening a movie during ramazan is also against law and you should not have an issue when DC acted according to law. The law should be equal for all and if you are so much worrying for non-muslims in pakistan you should also feel some pain when an indian MP made a muslim caterer eat forcefully during ramazan in last week. At least we are not doing the same to non-muslims here in pakistan.

How many people are affected? 0.000000000001% of the population of Rawalpindi and Islamabad. I think most of the people are busy in Ifftars, family get togethers and Ibaadah. If someone is watching a movie during those precious times of Ramadan and who has managed to take his time out for cinema is seriously out of the majority. The news seriously is not that important and required not be highlighted.

^^ Just a small selection from the gems out there!

Shreeman · Post by **Shreeman** » 28 Jul 2014 11:39

chetak wrote:
Shreeman wrote:moar was spent on the memorial than raised by the flight. A cynic may wonder if the insurance will now open 1000 moar madrassas. What possibly could be a better memorial?

Did I note that there are 1,000 madsrassas in bakistan? No, well then it merits a mention.

ps - who pays the coast guard bill here? Even if you dont die, the SAR bill can be quite high depending upon the area. People often resort to private searches when official resources die down.

Coast Guard aircraft is paid for by the DRI Directorate of Revenue Intelligence

ok, you made me google. in this case, crappy link, but it has some relevant numbers that may be old. The US taxpayer shelled out several times what the flight raised (last read number was ~10,000).

Overland rescues from sherrifs do come with a bill attached.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Jul 2014 16:53

Bankrolling terror - Sanchita Bhattacharya, South Asia Terrorism Portal

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 28 Jul 2014 17:20

Unfair seems to have flipped from "I know Paki's but still gotta do some == because policy, access etc" to "Paki's are bench odds". As someone who can be quotable in the non-initiated company which frown at Indian sources claiming bias - I find her useful in that regards.

jagga · Post by **jagga** » 28 Jul 2014 17:26

Pakistan mob kills woman, girls, over 'blasphemous' Facebook post

The dead, including a seven-year-old girl and her baby sister, were Ahmadis, who consider themselves Muslim but believe in a prophet after Mohammed. A 1984 Pakistani law declared them non-Muslims and many Pakistanis consider them heretics.

Barbarians pakis.

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 28 Jul 2014 20:43

^^Unfair is making nice nice with India, which makes me a bit nervous.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Jul 2014 20:51

Nandu wrote:^^Unfair is making nice nice with India, which makes me a bit nervous.

:rotfl:LOL

This reminds me of the joke about the man who used to sleep in the Big Ben tower and would sleep through the loud ringing every hour. One night the gong broke down and failed to ring at midnight. The man woke up with a start and asked "What was that?"

We are so used to people knowing everything about Pakistan but still lying about Pakis that we get worried when someone tells the truth.

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 28 Jul 2014 22:41

Secular Indian ‏@secular786 4m
Ramzan greetings to fellow Muslims. Request Shias, Ahmedis, Azlafs, Arzals etc to not claim to be Muslims & hurt Islamic sentiments!

Nandu · Post by **Nandu** » 28 Jul 2014 23:05

shiv wrote: We are so used to people knowing everything about Pakistan but still lying about Pakis that we get worried when someone tells the truth.

Yeah, I know it is funny. But it is not just truth telling from Christine. She traveled to India recently to promote her book (which is fine), and has been singing its praises ever since.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 29 Jul 2014 03:52

jagga wrote:Pakistan mob kills woman, girls, over 'blasphemous' Facebook post
The dead, including a seven-year-old girl and her baby sister, were Ahmadis, who consider themselves Muslim but believe in a prophet after Mohammed. A 1984 Pakistani law declared them non-Muslims and many Pakistanis consider them heretics.
Barbarians pakis.

He admitted that announcements were made in mosques against Ahmadis, which ensured the gathering of thousands of charged people against Ahmadis.
He said the mob had accused one of the Ahmadis of posting a blasphemous picture of the Kaaba, and that the mob had gathered outside their houses.

How does a building's picture become blasphemous, hainji? Just when you think Pakis are the lowest scum and can go no further lower, Pakiness plumbs newer lows.

Gus · Post by **Gus** » 29 Jul 2014 03:56

^ ahmadi are not muslims. hence cannot associate themselves with anything muslim. they will have to look and act as non-muslim. then they can be killed as plain "non-muslims" and not "non-muslims pretending to be muslims"

Peregrine · Post by **Peregrine** » 29 Jul 2014 04:42

UK temporarily bans PIA's cargo service, forces airline to suspend EU deliveries

KARACHI: British authorities on Monday imposed a temporary ban on cargo service of Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), forcing the national carrier to suspend delivery of goods to the entire European Union, officials said.

Cheers

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 29 Jul 2014 05:02

Nandu wrote:^^Unfair is making nice nice with India, which makes me a bit nervous.

To sell books. CCF is an assistant professor at Georgetown. She needs to publish or perish on her path to a tenured professorship.

She'll write anything to ensure retirement in Iowa with 20 cats as pets

KJo · Post by **KJo** » 29 Jul 2014 05:14

Gus wrote:^ ahmadi are not muslims. hence cannot associate themselves with anything muslim. they will have to look and act as non-muslim. then they can be killed as plain "non-muslims" and not "non-muslims pretending to be muslims"

To think that these barbarians were Hindus some centuries ago before the Arab GUBO'ed their grandma and planted a crazy seed in her.

Cosmo_R · Post by **Cosmo_R** » 29 Jul 2014 05:19

KJoishy wrote:
Gus wrote:^ ahmadi are not muslims. hence cannot associate themselves with anything muslim. they will have to look and act as non-muslim. then they can be killed as plain "non-muslims" and not "non-muslims pretending to be muslims"
To think that these barbarians were Hindus some centuries ago before the Arab GUBO'ed their grandma and planted a crazy seed in her.

"There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are."

Samuel Huntington

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Jul 2014 06:29

Cosmo_R wrote:uote="KJoishy"quote="Gus"]^ ahmadi are not muslims. hence cannot associate themselves with anything muslim. they will have to look and act as non-muslim. then they can be killed as plain "non-muslims" and not "non-muslims pretending to be muslims"To think that these barbarians were Hindus some centuries ago before the Arab GUBO'ed their grandma and planted a crazy seed in her."There can be no true friends without true enemies. Unless we hate what we are not, we cannot love what we are."
Samuel Huntington

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Now we know what we are protecting. Paki wimmen think Arab sperm swim and fly across Abarabian sea to pregnate them so produce truye Syed.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 29 Jul 2014 06:33

Fair looks so lovable and cute like Meryl Streep; however only if she had the integrity to call a spade a spade well before. Now the pot has boiled over, and she is crying spilled milk....chidiya chug gayi kheth, ab kya fayda? Only retirement and monetary benefits goad her.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 29 Jul 2014 06:40

http://www.dawn.com/news/1122276/eu-ban ... ying-cargo
EU bans PIA flights carrying cargo

KARACHI: The European Union (EU) has stopped Pakistan International Airlines from bringing cargo to the member states owing to security concerns, it is learnt here reliably. According to the highly placed sources, the ban will also leave the national flag carrier unable to carry the cargo for the United States. Though there is no restriction on PIA from the US authorities, the airline is not allowed to fly directly from Pakistan to the US and all Pakistan International Airlines flights going to the US have to land at European airports first for checking before restarting their journey for the US.
Responding to Dawn queries, PIA spokesperson Mashhood Tajwar said the ban was imposed owing to security concerns by the United Kingdom only, but as the UK is a member of the European Union all the EU countries would observe this ban and would not allow the PIA aircraft to carry cargo there.